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BT Blocks Access To Pirate Bay

Barence writes "BT and other mobile broadband providers are blocking access to The Pirate Bay as part of a 'self-regulation' scheme with the Internet Watch Foundation. BT Mobile Broadband users who attempt to access the notorious BitTorrent tracker site are met with a 'content blocked' message. The warning page states the page has been blocked in 'compliance with a new UK voluntary code.' 'This uses a barring and filtering mechanism to restrict access to all WAP and internet sites that are considered to have "over 18" status,' the warning states. It goes on to list a series of categories that are blocked, including adult/sexually explicit content, 'criminal skills,' and hacking. It's not stated which category The Pirate Bay breaches, although the site does host links to porn movies."

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  1. Re:The link to solve the problem by derrida · · Score: 5, Informative
    Some other options:
    • BTJunkie
    • Demonoid
    • isoHunt
    • LokiTorrent
    • Mininova
    • myBittorrent
    • Seedpeer
    • ShareReactor
    • Suprnova.org
    • TorrentSpy
    • ...
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    nemesis. Home of an experimental fe code.
  2. Re:The link to solve the problem by areusche · · Score: 5, Informative

    Please don't do this. TOR isn't designed to handle torrenting. If you need to browse TPB then by all means go for it, but torrenting over TOR only destroys the network as a whole.

    On a side note, the thing about TOR that cracks me up is that most of the exit nodes always seem to land me in China. Shouldn't I want to avoid using IP addresses from China? What about that Great Firewall of China?

  3. T-mobile not blocked by Ren.Tamek · · Score: 2, Informative

    I just navigated to thepiratebay.org successfully from my T-mobile phone in the UK. Just an FYI for anyone who has recently become interested in changing their mobile phone / internet contract.

    It's worth noting however that I have my porn filter off. You have to call your service provider and have adult content switched on for this service for some unknown reason.

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  4. Correction by Barence · · Score: 3, Informative

    Please note that the Internet Watch Foundation has subsequently told PC Pro that, although it hosts information about the filtering scheme, it has no involvement with the filtering or the creation of the blacklist. This is down to the mobile broadband providers themselves.

    1. Re:Correction by Ken+D · · Score: 3, Informative

      if that's true, it's an out and out lie.

      I mean just look http://www.iwf.org.uk/ at the big red button used to create their blacklist.
      Even their FAQ says that they distribute a blacklist

    2. Re:Correction by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not only that but they operate the filters - the ISPs are expected to forward the HTTP requests to the IWF for validation (some like BT may have their own systems, but the IWF definately won't allow smaller ISPs near them in case they leak the actual list, which is some kind of unofficial state secret). Note that they only cover port 80 so all you have to do to avoid the block is to move your site to port 81 :p

  5. All the UK mobilecos by rpjs · · Score: 3, Informative

    block "adult" content by default, but will remove the block once you've proved you're over 18, usually by supplying a valid credit card number. T-Mobile even included Facebook in the block a year or two back. Dunno if they still do.

  6. Re:The link to solve the problem by Nursie · · Score: 5, Informative

    You forgot one -

    google (filetype:torrent)

  7. Re:Ah so the IWF is after a power grab. by alnya · · Score: 2, Informative

    Mod Parent Up

    Too true. The problems with the IWF is the lack of oversight. I wrote to my MP, who replied it was nothing to do with them, as they are a seperate organization, and wrote to my ISP, who said they have nothing to do with the "blacklist" itself.

    The IWF seem to occupy this quasi public / private space in which the only way to get to them is via public opinion.

  8. Re:BT? by JohnnyBGod · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hence the "BT Mobile Broadband" in the summary...

  9. Misleading Summary by shinier · · Score: 4, Informative

    Kinda missed an important bit of that article there, didn't you? "BT's warning message advises customers to contact customer services if they want the block on the site to be lifted." You still get to choose.

  10. Re:Ah so the IWF is after a power grab. by Jellybob · · Score: 4, Informative

    Bets on how long they try to extend this voluntary code which covers all the UK's main mobile providers to hardwired, static internet connections?

    They already have. The ISP I work for have been dropping any packets destined for sites on the IWF's blacklist for several years now.

    I should clarify that most of us aren't happy about it, but a gentleman's agreement is in place that we can either do it voluntarily, or the government can make it a legal requirement and heap more trouble to implement.

  11. Re:BT? by iainl · · Score: 2, Informative

    BT is the name of the company. Bittorrent is called Bittorrent.

    Besides, your misread makes precisely zero sense; how can a protocol block a website?

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  12. Re:Bittorrent over 3G by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Similar censorship is being introduced in Japan, in the name of protecting children with internet enabled mobiles from "harmful" web sites. I think you can opt out of their system, which unfortunately is not the case with BT.

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  13. I moved away from BT expecting this by Aceticon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Some months ago, when a bunch of stories starting coming up of large ISPs starting up voluntary schemes and trials and whatnot I actually left BT and moved to a smaller, friendlier ISP exactly with the expectation that this sort of thing would come to be.

    *big pat on the back*

    Shameless plug for my current ISP, ADSL 24 - cheaper (for the typical user), just as fast (maybe even faster), no traffic shaping, no blocking, no bullshit. Never got any problem with them.

    By the way, last I checked, the ISPs to avoid at all costs in the UK (with regards to things like blocking and traffic shaping) where BT, Virgin and Tiscalli.

  14. Re:BT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    BT hasn't been called British Telecom for years. "The company changed its trading name to 'BT' on 2 April 1991" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_Group

  15. Re:Bittorrent over 3G by mdwh2 · · Score: 3, Informative

    which unfortunately is not the case with BT.

    You should be able to opt out of this blocking system (TFA claims this is the case - if someone knows otherwise, please say so, as that would be major news). The one you can't opt out of is the IWF blocking list that's on most ISPs (covers 95% of users), however that list doesn't cover adult sites (well, except for when they mess it up as with Wikipedia).

  16. This is not the IWF list by mdwh2 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just to clarify - what you refer to is the IWF blocking system that applies to all (home and mobile) systems, covers 95% of users. It cannot be removed by the user, and as you note, the Government have pressured ISPs to do this, and it's all rather worrying.

    But this article is about a separate system. It covers a much wide range of material, but the upside is you can remove it. It's unclear if the IWF have any connection to this.

    Another difference is that this system evidently tells the user, where as the IWF system fakes a 404 on most ISPs.

  17. Re:Bittorrent over 3G by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can opt out of the IWF list, you just need to install Tor.

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    const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
    SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
  18. Re:Well Colour Me Confused by kerp11 · · Score: 2, Informative

    O2 are not owned by BT in any way shape or form - they bought out what used to be BT Cellnet but O2 is owned by Telefónica

  19. Re:Bittorrent over 3G by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 4, Informative

    Or just use an ISP that doesn't use it... there are lots of them. Some have even sworn never to use it.

  20. Re:Bittorrent over 3G by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 2, Informative

    The IWF block more than "potential child porn" - they've been caught blocking sites critical of the IWF for example. Being an unelected and unaccountable body they refuse to release the contents of the lists though, even to ISPs.

  21. Re:The link to solve the problem by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 2, Informative

    It can be faster than DSL in some locations.. OTOH the places with poor DSL are often the places with poor HSPDA as well. There's an overlap though where the DSL is 6Mbps due to distance (which is in practical terms all you're going to get out of 3G.. 7.2/15.4 is just the headline speed).

  22. Re:The link to solve the problem by Hemogoblin · · Score: 5, Informative
  23. Re:Goodbye Common Carrier Status? by tsalmark · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here is one court case hinging on Common Carrier Status: http://www.osler.com/resources.aspx?id=8271 I seem to remember a few others in the Canadian court system, but one is enough to prove the courts are interested in Common Carrier Status.

  24. Re:Goodbye Common Carrier Status? by grahamm · · Score: 3, Informative

    BT, and other telecos and ISPs, have never had 'common carrier' status. AFAIK the only organisations which have are those such as the Railways who transport physical goods.

  25. Re:Bittorrent over 3G by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'll move to a new provider who doesn't. And so will most of the rest of their customers

    While a nice sentiment and true for the technical minority and a some others, I doubt that business users will feel the same way, nor most parents with kids, nor older adults, all of whom for a long time now have made up the bulk of Internet users. Few of them will even notice.

  26. Re:The link to solve the problem by gilgongo · · Score: 2, Informative

    FYI I use I2PSnark - it's not fast (roughly half the speed of normal Bittorrent) but it's anonymous enough until my ISP starts *really* cracking my packets. The beauty of I2P is that the more people use it, the faster it gets!

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