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Biotech Company To Patent Pigs

Anonymous Swine writes "Monsanto, a US based multinational biotech company, is causing a stir by its plan to patent pig-breeding techniques including the claim on animals born by the techniques. 'Agricultural experts are scrambling to assess how these patents might affect the market, while consumer activists warn that if the company is granted pig-related patents, on top of its tight rein on key feed and food crops, its control over agriculture could be unprecedented. "We're afraid that Monsanto and other big companies are getting control of the world's genetic resources," said Christoph Then, a patent expert with Greenpeace in Germany. The patent applications, filed with the World Intellectual Property Organization, are broad in scope, and are expected to take several years and numerous rewrites before approval.'"

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  1. patented bacon by mcfatboy93 · · Score: 4, Funny

    It better taste good

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    1. Re:patented bacon by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Informative

      Could we ask them to develop a pig with an uncloven hoof? It would be interesting to see kosher bacon on the shelf.

      It's already available. The text literally translates as "cloven hoof that trods the ground", so they raise pigs on slightly elevated wood floors - their hooves never touch the ground, so they're kosher.

      Cue all the "a priest and a rabbi" jokes ...

    2. Re:patented bacon by theskunkmonkey · · Score: 4, Funny

      A priest, a rabbi, and a terrorist walk into a bar.

      BOOM!

      What? You were expecting a joke?

    3. Re:patented bacon by BobisOnlyBob · · Score: 5, Funny

      Okay.

      A Priest, a Rabbi, and a Shaman all walk into a bar, only there's no Rabbi and no Shaman, and it's my eighth birthday party, and the Priest is molesting me.

      And the priest is my Dad and he's not really a priest.

    4. Re:patented bacon by moeinvt · · Score: 4, Funny

      A priest and a rabbi are walking down the street and they see some little kids playing frisbee in a park.

      The priest says "Hey, let's go screw those little kids."
      The rabbi says "Out of what, the frisbee?"

      (You did say "ALL")

  2. Monsanto's motto... by yoder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Do only evil."

    So far they're on track.

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    1. Re:Monsanto's motto... by Hatta · · Score: 4, Funny

      They patented prostitution?

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    2. Re:Monsanto's motto... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, it went like this:

      1. Invent sex
      2. Invent money
      3. start charging for 1
      4. Profit.

      Yes, they figured out ????

    3. Re:Monsanto's motto... by tsa · · Score: 4, Funny

      You mean 4000 BC. The Earth is only 6000 years old.

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    4. Re:Monsanto's motto... by laughingcoyote · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Do only evil

      Seriously? Creating new sources of food is evil? Patents last for a few years or a couple decades (at most). New sources of food will continue to pay dividends for generations.

      Since exactly when are pigs a new source of food? I seem to remember enjoying bacon my entire life.

      If they can come up with a genuinely new source of food, rather than retreading an old one and trying to claim they own it, I might say there's a case to be made.

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    5. Re:Monsanto's motto... by EonBlueTooL · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Do only evil

      Seriously? Creating new sources of food is evil? Patents last for a few years or a couple decades (at most). New sources of food will continue to pay dividends for generations.

      A small taste of monsanto's evilness.

      http://www.hulu.com/watch/67878/the-future-of-food

      They are not just trying to create new food sources, they are trying to become the ONLY food source.
      They are playing god, and they lack any conscience.

      Monstanto developed a seed that makes the plant infertile. That can cross contaminate other plants. The goal of this seed? To make it so farmers cannot use seed from the previous harvest and they have to buy more seeds.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto#.22Terminator.22_seed_controversy
      Monsanto is quite possibly the most evil company on the planet.

    6. Re:Monsanto's motto... by moeinvt · · Score: 4, Informative

      "taste" of monsanto's evilness? LOL

      How about injecting dairy cows with chemical crap to maximize production, at the expense of the animal's health and resulting in milk that belongs in a "bio-hazard" container as opposed to a milk jug?

      See "The Corporation": http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379225

      Not to mention Monsanto using their muscle to prevent investigative journalists from actually reporting on the story. This company gives me the creeps.

    7. Re:Monsanto's motto... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Unfortunately in the real world the creator of the crop killing plant sues the victim.

    8. Re:Monsanto's motto... by Abcd1234 · · Score: 4, Informative

      How about injecting dairy cows with chemical crap to maximize production, at the expense of the animal's health and resulting in milk that belongs in a "bio-hazard" container as opposed to a milk jug?

      Meh, for that you can blame the US government. Neither, Canada, nor a good part of Europe, have approved those synthetic hormones you speak of for use in milk production. Pity your "regulators" don't actually regulate anything...

  3. pig breeding? by larry+bagina · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was going to suggest some prior art, but I realized that cowboy neal has never been laid.

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  4. Time machine also patented by sir_eccles · · Score: 5, Informative

    Did anyone else notice the 2005 date on the press release?

    As far as I can tell, no patents have been granted from WO2004/003697 which seems to be the most likely application in question.

    1. Re:Time machine also patented by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      And Monsanto sold the swine business in 2007. http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2007/09/24/daily40.html

  5. Genetic Patents by deemen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Someone has to stop these stupid genetic patents. Patents and copyrights are both way out of hand these days. Software patents, now this. I've heard of companies attempting to patent viruses and such (the kind they use to get DNA into other organisms), but a pig? I think patent law has a clause saying you can't patent a living organism (when did genes become "inventions"?). Recently though, big pharma and biotech companies like Monsanto has been lobbying to let this shit happen.

    There was a movie that touched on this The Corporation. It's a Canadian movie and I think Monsanto is mentioned in there more than once.

    I sincerely don't know how these companies get away with it. Giving them the same rights as people legally was a bad idea. Don't the people working at Monsanto realize how twisted this shit is?

  6. Re:patents and insanity by tomhudson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with GMO crops, and more importantly, for anti-GMO people, is that they are simply better for the farmer. They can produce more for less work. Even when you take the licensing costs into account, it is more economical overall. Presumably, the anti-GMO people are against this push into new markets because it will do the same for pig farmers as it did for crop farmers. And that'll make it harder for anti-GMO people to continue their "organic" lifestyle.

    ... because mono-cultures are SO much better than diversity ...

    ... because they'll never abuse their monopoly license ...

    ... because it's easy to keep GMOs from contaminating non-GMOs (crops/animals) ...

    ... because selective breeding is such a radical and new idea ...

    ... because they'll never take a naturally-occurring species and slip a patent on it ...

    After all, what could possibly go wrong?

  7. Unprecedented control by dkleinsc · · Score: 5, Informative

    FTFS: "its control over agriculture could be unprecedented"

    It already is. It holds 70-100% of the genetically modified seed market, and is the largest producer of non-GMO seed, not to mention a major player in Bovine Growth Hormone (BGH) and of course pesticides and herbicides.

    That's not including the lawsuits against farmers who's plants are fertilized by Monsanto crop due to airborne pollen.

    In short, the vast majority of industrial farmers in the Corn Belt rely heavily on Monsanto, and those that don't are sued by Monsanto.

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    1. Re:Unprecedented control by SuperCharlie · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I recently ran into a few documentaries and articles about Monsanto and was completely amazed at the depth and scope of the unadulterated greed and potential for catastrophic issues that stem from their genetic manipulation of nature.

      Even that pales in comparison to the back door government dealings that have landed multitudes of Monsanto employees and board members squarely in government position that control the very laws they are petitioning for. Do a simple google search, the numbers are astounding to the point of obscenity.

  8. A history of evil by Reason58 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    God help you if one of their seeds blows onto your property and one of their pigs eat it.

  9. Re:STFU Enviro-nazi's by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Best" is relative here. Having a single company control agricultural output in the way that Monsanto does, free markets or no, is a damned dangerous thing. This is about the core structural support of civilization. Fuck with the food supply, and bad things can happen.

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  10. Best line in the article by cortesoft · · Score: 4, Funny

    The practices Monsanto wants to patent basically involve identifying genes that result in desirable traits in swine, breeding animals to achieve those traits and using a specialized device to inseminate sows deeply in a way that uses less sperm than is typically required.

    Umm I think nature invented that device a long time ago....

  11. Monsanto is dangerous by meist3r · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Needs to be stopped, burned and sealed away.

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  13. not that i necessarily believe monsanto, but... by gadabyte · · Score: 4, Informative

    from http://www.monsanto.com/monsanto_today/for_the_record/pig_patent.asp

    In 2007, Monsanto sold Monsanto Choice Genetics to Newsham Genetics LC of West Des Moines, Iowa. The transaction was completed in November 2007, and Monsanto is no longer in the swine breeding business.

    Since a Greenpeace publicity announcement in 2005, rumors have continued to circulate among activists and on the internet that Monsanto is trying to patent pig genes. When Monsanto owned the business, the company performed research work for a patent application related to a specific gene marker for a pig trait, but not for the trait itself, and also a patent application for a unique set of breeding processes, including an artificial insemination method. Monsanto never filed a patent application for a pig gene.

    Thereâ(TM)s been some rather wild speculation that these patent applications would prohibit pig farmers from breeding lines of pigs to which they had always freely bred. This isnâ(TM)t true. Any claims issued from these patent applications would apply to only animals and their offspring which had been bred using marker technology covered by patent claims.

    In any case, the sale to Newsham Genetics included any and all swine-related patents, patent applications, and all other intellectual property. Weâ(TM)re out of the pig business.

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  14. The Next Move by DynaSoar · · Score: 4, Informative

    Monsanto patented some corn strains. The patent covered any corn found to have their patented genome. They planted it, it grew and pollinated. The pollen drifted into nearby fields and pollinated the crops there. Monsanto got some of the resulting corn, tested it, found their genome, and sued the farmers for theft of intellectual property. I don't know if they finally won or not, but at the time they prevented the farmers from farming until it was resolved causing loss of income, as well as proving themselves to be willing to use the high cost of defending one's self in order to keep from losing. And that was in the US, just prior to them releasing the same strains in third world countries. The strain they distributed had the trait of not producing viable seed. They wanted all the farmers to have to buy seed every year rather than grow their own, and they feared cross pollination would produce a viable strain overriding the nonviability genes.

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  15. Re:patents and insanity by Keith+Duhaime · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most of the anti-GMO crowd is pretty simple in their thinking. They'll rave about organic crops that rely heavily on tillage techniques which promote oxidation of soil organic matter, breakdown of soil structure, and other adverse effects, but condemn GMOs like Round-Up Ready crops that enable zero-tillage systems that preserve soil organic matter, moisture, and structure.

  16. Re:patents and insanity by conlaw · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's not like Monsanto suddenly owns all pigs ever born.....they can still keep using normal, everyday, unmodified pigs like they do now.

    Yeah, right...if one of the Monsanto boars gets loose, all the pig farmers in the area will get sued on the theory that the Monsanto pig impregnated all of their sows and they now owe Monsanto royalties on all the progeny. Just look at their history of suing farmers whose crops were contaminated by pollen from nearby Monsanto-licensed fields of the same crops. For the full saga of one such case which the farmer had to take all the way to the Canadian Supreme Court, see http://www.percyschmeiser.com/conflict.htm. Mr. Schmeiser's fight, along with Monsanto's other dirty tactics, is also covered in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto

  17. Re:patents and insanity by twostix · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Farmers sprayed arsenic on their crops and fed their cows mashed up cow, pig and chicken carcasses to make them 5% more productive.

    So probably best not to put *to* much stock in what "farmers" (huge agri-corps run by paid employees - old school farmers are thin and few in between these days) think is best, because it might just wind up killing you.

  18. Unintended consequences by zogger · · Score: 5, Interesting

    GMO is a scam, IMO (disclaimer in advance. I am a farmer, I admit bias against monsanto and their ilk, I effin hate the bastids for years now, so take what I write with a grain of salt). It leads to proprietary vendor lock in in spades, along with a host of other issues, health issues, environmental issues and economics, it isn't all rosy. And the issue with superweeds now is getting serious. In my own state, pig amaranth is taking over a lot of fields that were grown with GM cotton then sprayed. Except it doesn't work now, the amaranth is winning. It gets ten feet tall. Some guys just *give up*. Roundup ready crops are just crops designed to be able to withstand roundup or generic equivalent herbicide so they can spray MORE on the crop and more often and not damage the crop. It works-for awhile, that's the real bottom line "for awhile", and you get lots more herbicide residue on whatever you grow. and the stuff itself ain't cheap, over a hundred bucks a jug now and goes up all the time, even the generics keep going up.

    You never *really* get rid of all the weeds, you just fast track selective breed resistant weeds (or insect pests if it is insecticide, like with their BT modded corn). Even the crops themselves turn into weeds, they are having a hard time controlling their GM supercanola, it will spread to other fields and being resistant to herbicides...I think you get the picture.

    Our farmers are by and large stuck in the 70s by mindset, swallowed all that rah rah rah corporate PR bullshit, now are stuck because they don't know any better and can't avoid it and will NOT admit they got suckered bad.

    You think microsoft has vendor lockin...computer OS or some "office suite" is WAY down the list of humanly important *things*. Be concerned, be very concerned over food and availability going into the future is all I can say. They already have had several screwups, one of them one of these days is going to be the czar bomba screwup and will lead to mass famine sometime. I don't know what it will be, but I can about guarantee it will happen. That's my prediction.

    We have climate indicators, and we have health of the crop and insect indicators, and the status of our honeybees now is a good indicator or canary in the coal mine if you will. Superweeds, honeybees croaking off, vendor lockin, loss of biodiversity..you have to look at the whole picture.

    And it isn't so much that the tech is just evil, I don't believe that, it's that the tech is near completely uncontrolled despite so called regulations and studies and they have no idea whatsoever what the long term consequences will be and there's more than a little hanky panky going on with the studies. Think about all the past big corporate screwups, the really bad stuff, and they all have two things in common: 1) the corporations themselves always maintained until the last second there wasn't any problem and if there was they were just innocent bystanders, and 2) they always manage to trot out their posse of tame private scientists and academic scientists to "back them up" until it was so obvious they had to 'fess ip, pay up and admit wrong doing. That's just normal corporate policy taken as a general rule of thumb (same with governments, never admit they were wrong, even in the face of overwhelming evidence). Just the nature of the beast. Your default should be, be a skeptic to corporate and governmental PR and spin.

    Extrapolate at your leisure, but I am not convinced at all they are the best way forward at this point. They are very profitable for monsanto and a few others, at this time, but that's it. It's bankrupting smaller farmers all over the world and leading to a global hegemony on seeds and food. Do we *really* want that to happen, do we really want to lose natural biodiversity and to keep putting millions of the poorest even further into the poorhouse? And, more importantly than that, something that impacts everyone, think of this: we have no "food insurance" or backup planet either once they