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Cops To Start CrimeTube To Report Offenses

An anonymous reader writes "UK citizens may soon be able to report crimes by uploading videos taken from their mobile phones. Ian Readhead, director of information for the Association of Chief Police Officers, told silicon.com that forces want to build a video reporting portal to allow the public to upload potential evidence. Checking YouTube is now a routine part of many police investigations, he said, and police want to build on the extra functionality that this gives them."

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  1. Holy crap! by plover · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So as a subscriber, I get to see stories before TFA is slashdotted. The preview stories come with this little question: "See any serious problems with this story? Email our on-duty editor." I don't think emailing the Slashdot editors is going to fix the problems I see with this one!

    TFA gives the example of a white van involved in some crime. Well, I have a neighbor whose dog barks all night, but drives a brown van. No problem, a little Photoshop here and there, and voilá! "Instant Evidence"! The neighbors dog spends 6-8 months in the kennel while his owner does the same thing.

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    1. Re:Holy crap! by csartanis · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I wonder what will happen to the videos of police committing crimes?

    2. Re:Holy crap! by A+non-mouse+Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Where do I upload suspected thoughtcrime?

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    3. Re:Holy crap! by snowraver1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It makes it too easy. Let's say that your neighbor likes to smoke pot from time to time, and that bothers you. Normally you would have to call the police and file and official complaint. Not anymore. Just get your crappy cell phone out and submit the video and wait for the police come to take them away.

      To me, it is one of those "whatwouldpossiblygowrong" type things. I feel that it should be at least a "little bit of a pain in the ass" to file a complaint with the police. Making small amounts of red tape (i.e. you actually have to call a phone number and talk to somone) limits the number of frivilous complaints.

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    4. Re:Holy crap! by vandon · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Even better, how many videos will be deleted because they show a cop running a red light, illegally parked, littering, sleeping in their cars, making illegal turns, etc?

    5. Re:Holy crap! by AxeTheMax · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's easy, all of them will be deleted. Because they would be information about the police that may be of use to terrorists, and it's illegal to collect such information.

    6. Re:Holy crap! by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's illegal in a lot of places, the state, county, or even city can make it illegal to sleep in your vehicle in their jurisdiction. That's pretty much the norm these days, and in fact in some places it's even illegal to sleep in a tent in your own back yard, although in practice this is almost never enforced... a bad law is still a bad law. It's illegal to live in a trailer on your own property in Lake County, CA unless you have plans and permits to build a house. It's hard to see how that serves society, unless you want people to be homeless. Hmm...

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  2. Re:So what are they going to do by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Charge them with disseminating material that might be potentially useful to terrorists, of course. Easy enough.

  3. Report on your neighbor! by brian0918 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Orwellian much?

    1. Re:Report on your neighbor! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not a huge surprise. They already have the "If you suspect it Report it" campaign.

      Not to mention good old "Secure beneath the watchful eyes".(yes, they are actually serious. As in, that poster is not ironic.)

    2. Re:Report on your neighbor! by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Interesting
      How fitting, then, that the Wikipedia article of the day is the biographical article on Judge Learned Hand, who said:

      [M]y friends, will you not agree that any society which begins to be doubtful of itself; in which one man looks at another and says: "He may be a traitor," in which that spirit has disappeared which says: "I will not accept that, I will not believe that--I will demand proof. I will not say of my brother that he may be a traitor," but I will say, "Produce what you have. I will judge it fairly, and if he is, he shall pay the penalties; but I will not take it on rumor. I will not take it on hearsay. I will remember that what has brought us up from savagery is a loyalty to truth, and truth cannot emerge unless it is subjected to the utmost scrutiny"--will you not agree that a society which has lost sight of that, cannot survive?

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  4. Let's get started! by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 4, Funny

    If they had this in the US, I would upload video of my ATT phone/wireless/internet bill.

  5. Police Abuse Videos by MasterOfMagic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What happens when you upload a video of the police abusing a citizen (assuming you can smuggle your copy out of the situation)? Do they auto-delete or does the spin machine automatically fire up?

    1. Re:Police Abuse Videos by Minwee · · Score: 4

      No, they just send someone over to arrest you for taking photographs of a police officer.

      No spin is necessary as you are clearly a terrorist.

    2. Re:Police Abuse Videos by DaFallus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Someone just needs to start their own YouTube style site specifically for uploading and sharing videos of police brutality, corruption, or any other type of malfeasance. You could search by city, state, names, etc and link it to Google Maps. I think the fallout of such a thing would be interesting to say the least.

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  6. Re:Insurance Fraud Galore by Duradin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why would the cops care? They have "evidence", someone ends up in the pokey, and they get to be "tough on crime". Everyone is guilty of something so whoever they do throw the book at had it coming anyways.

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  7. CopTube by Weedhopper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm more interested in a mobile phone YouTube to report misdeeds and abuses by police officers.

    I say that even though most of my interactions with police officers, even if they haven't been necessarily pleasant due to the circumstances, have been professional. It's just that I've been there and seen enough abuses of authority by bad cops to know that when it does happen, the only thing that's going to help you is video evidence.

    I wish those nine out ten good cops wouldn't cover for that one bad cop.

  8. Educated Stupid by Millennium · · Score: 4, Funny

    These evil word bastards are perpetuating non-Cubic myth. Only Dr. Gene Ray, wisest human, can possibly understand the depth and importance of this harmonic system with 4 simultaneous days in a single rotation...

    Oh, wait; Crime Tube? Um, err, sorry about that. My bad.

    Man, that sucks.

  9. at last by Chapter80 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I finally have a server that I can store all my snuff films on!

  10. Re:Insurance Fraud Galore by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just like in East Germany (back in the day)... Spy on your neighbors, report back to The State!

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  11. Orwell spinning in his grave? by drewzhrodague · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...watch your view counter spin like Orwell in his grave.

    You may need to gear it down and use a tachometer. I understand he's starting to fly apart in there.

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  12. Re:We the people ... by Reziac · · Score: 5, Funny

    Exactly what bothers me about such schemes. Your neighbour becomes your possible enemy... divide the people so they cannot possibly move against an oppressive gov't, because they all distrust one another too much.

    Cue the "in Soviet Russia" jokes... oh, how about this one??

    Subject: KGB
    Place and time: Somewhere in the Soviet Union in the 1950s.

    The phone rings at KGB headquarters.

    "Hello?"

    "Hello, is this KGB?"

    "Yes. What do you want?"

    "I'm calling to report my neighbor Yankel Rabinovitz as an enemy of the State. He is hiding undeclared diamonds in some fallen trees on his property."

    "This will be noted." Next day, the KGB patrol arrives at the Rabinovitz's house. They chop the trees into pieces, but find no diamonds.

    Later the phone rings at the Rabinovitz house.
    "Hello, Yankel! Did the KGB come?"

    "Yes. Did they chop your firewood?"

    "Yes, they did."

    "Okay, now it's your turn to call. I need my vegetable patch plowed.

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  13. Nothing is in isolation by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Arguments like yours seem not well thought out to me. Yes you could frame him for a crime. Hell, why not shoot a few people and leave the smoking gun in his garage too?

    Well I'll tell you why, because police actually INVESTIGATE a crime. They aren't going to look at one video or piece of evidence, throw him in jail, and call it a day. They are going to look at all the evidence as a body to see what fits...

    So what happens when the evidence YOU submitted turns out to be the only information that doesn't mesh with everything else they have collected? They are going to come asking you some tough questions, and if you really tried to frame someone I hope you like sharing rooms with rough men because that's where you are headed.

    There's a reason in the past why people generally don't try to make up evidence and video is no exception. Personally I think it's great that people can submit video to help catch criminals if they are too concerned about personal safety to get involved. Wouldn't you rather have user submitted videos of crime submitted by real people than have monitoring cameras everywhere "just in case?". I lean on the side of trusting people in an area to say "hey, there's a problem here".

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  14. Police = Not a Dangerous Occupation by onkelonkel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't know how we ever got the idea that police work is particularly dangerous. (Wait...yes I do...from the police!). Police work isn't even in the top 10 most dangerous occupations. Death rate for Loggers about 95 per 100,000 per year, pilots about 90, steel workers about 50. Police are about 6 per 100,000. Only about 1/2 of the police deaths are due to encounters with violent criminals, the rest are things like traffic accidents and heart attacks. We don't condone brutality on citizens by garbage collectors, and their job is 5 times as dangerous as the police.

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