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Miro Asks Users To "Adopt" Lines of Source
soDean writes "The FOSS video player / downloader Miro is asking its users to support development by 'adopting' a line of source code for $4 a month. Each adopted line of code comes personalized with a little avatar character that will grow older over the year. PCF, which makes Miro, says they think the project is the first of its kind and they believe it's a chance to 'to have a truly bottom up funding base.'"
when your line of code dies?
Finally an Open Source project with some real marketing geniuses on board! That alone deserves celebration.
I don't think this will quite work, but it's a step in the right direction. Will users get to pick which line they adopt? You could even imagine an auction system. Some lines might become very trendy: "I own the main function declaration of the program, but that cost me $500".
I'll ask the people on my entrepreneur network if they like the model!
"For only $4 a month, you can give this line of source clean electricity and information to process and grow."
the end of one line if statements and ternary operators as we know them.
Man, that's more than a lot of programmers get paid at their full-time jobs.
Interesting idea, I wonder if this will lead to people purposely adding lines of code just to generate more revenue. Hopefully they would set up a price system based upon supply/demand at that point though.
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Supposed to spend %0.5 of my disposable income on a single line of code, month after month? This makes SMS look cheap!
The code-base of Miro doubled in size with 99% of the new lines coming from comment...err programmer documentation.
Do I get a discount if I adopt a comment?
I can see the fnords!
Now the developers at Miro will spend all their time making sure their emoticons age properly instead of actually coding!
At $4/month that would be a nice way to make a killing in profits.
Of course the result will be something roughly like the whole pixel advertising schemes in the end and Miro itself will suck, but hats off for the a good scam to make money of software.
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Best 4 bucks I ever spent
This will lead to code bloat as they make more lines of code to make more money as adoptees.
One way to make programmers actually comment their code though. Do comments count as adoptees?
adopted this goodie: if user = adoptedcode then programmer = chucklingatstupdity end if
What happens if your line of code is the cause of a major bug? Do you have to hide your head in shame?
Who would win this election: Andrew Weiner vs Andrew Weiner's weiner.
This could be a good idea as long as people don't try to maintain the line of code they adopt in the spirit of Cosmo Kramer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pothole).
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// This is line #273523
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If they let you adopt a whole function or even a whole class, this could be a cool way of not only making money but also minimising bugs.
People who adopt are likely going to read the code they get so this is a good way to get lots of eyes on the source.
Just a thought..
heh, I adopted a line of code, the recurring payment was processed by PayPal and then Miro's site broke so I paid for nothing. HOORAY!
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I wonder what would happen if M$ would ask users to pay what they feel for say anywhere between $10 to $1xx for Windows 7 Ultimate.
If I adopt a line, can I charge other lines rent for using it?
"The line of code I adopted starts with /* and has several expletives referring to the code below it."
$4/line per month? Hell, I should try and get some code into this project... if I can get 2000 lines of code adopted, I'll make $96K/year for the rest of my life. Seems I'll be able to retire before 30 after all. :)
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hello copy&paste...
Recently we evaluated a static code analysis package from a vendor (that shall remain nameless) that wants to charge us by the line. The code in question is just over half a million lines of C code. At the (presumed) rate of ten cents a line, that's easily 50k USD. I can't think of a better business model (other than the route MP/RIAA have taken.)
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Why support a child when I can support i++?
I get this on the page:
Hello there! It looks like you are visiting from Europe
Did you know that there are more Miro users in Europe than in the United States, but more than 99% of our financial support comes from American donations and philanthropies?
Europe loves open-source, right? Help us make something great!
Sounds like they're trying to cash in on our hatred for the U.S. :)
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I want the line that includes FFMPEG.
How much does it cost to run this program?
Are you really adopting a line of code or contributing $4 a month to be used as required.
This is where the "looped out" open source community just boggles my mind for lack of appreciation as to why capitalism works (by and large) in our economy.... why on earth should the people _making_ the product do the funding and not the people _using_ the product.
I seriously just don't get this.... it's the most idiotic, ridiculous and laughably stupid (not mention arse about) idea I've seen in years.
Next thing you know, they'll allow advertisements as comments in code. What an annoyance!
I believe you are talking about the same code analysis package that we purchased at my place of work... and our code weighed in at 16 million lines of code.
The expense of copy paste and never refactoring finally showed up.
Of course their price per line is just the starting cost. You try to bargain them down as far as you can.
I've adopted the copyright statements at the head of each file. What a waste of $4000/mo.
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I like the idea of miro, but my ISP sucks and last time i checked it didnt support an easy way to change my upload limits, or encrypting all connections?
I also don't see the need for an entire application when they could just as easily make the thing a web app and users could use rss + their normal torrent application to download stuff, but i suppose some people prefer to have it run locally.
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if someone agrees to adopt this line I saw at work today:
pHSEGB->coarse += (7- nWeirdBits)*6 - 42;
Hungarian notation, confusing logic, magic numbers, "weird bits", and some jackass decided to subtract the ultimate answer from it all.
... also, I can kill you with my brain.
I adopt:
main(c){if(c42)printf("%d\n",7*c+41),main(++c);}
And what constitutes a line? Is a function a line or several lines? If it several lines then
are the braces lines? I'd be PO'd paying $4 for a single brace. Come to think of it I wouldn't be so happy with $4 a func. $.04 is more like it. There are times where $4 would be a bargain for comments...
Having used Miro, I want to adopt the following line:
10 REM
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If I adopt my slashdot number do I get extra nerd points?
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Some phrases nobody might adopt: ';' 'a++;' 'return;' 'dbg_printf("blah");' 'assert(a'
I thought it was a clever way to get people working on the project. You are responsible for a single line of code. Make sure it works and is as efficient as possible. However, to know if your line works you need to understand a few more.. Before you know it you're a dev on the project!
What if the line contains a bug? Do you get a refund?
Before I make the adoption, I'd like to know what language its written in.
Although the general idea is good, I would offer for "adoption" a more "tangible" or identifiable item such as an Object.
With a good campaign you really could make objects in a program seem like "real characters".
Just imagine:
"this is Teh-Network (class), it helps you to get all your warez^H^H^H^H^Hlinux ISOs and has the power to bring down entire networks MUWAHAHAH"
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The pirates give us our content and the gamblers give us our bucks!!
Rather than have the internet sink deep into troubles, and open source back into poverty, the guys who have the money to throw around, can actually do something truly helpful.
Duke nukem code:
#This is miro component X made by someguy
-dukenukem stuff here-
The makers of duke nukem would be all "WTF!"
By reading this you agree to give me (Noxn) 1 dollar.
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Microsoft just announced that you can ADOPT source code lines of windows VISTA!
Ballmer: "We had this idea because im a genius blah blah blah"
Reporter: "Didnt miro start this strategy?"
Ballmer: "SHUT UP!!! I THROW CHAIRS!1!11"
Of course you can ONLY adopt comments of the developers (All including the word FUCK atleast one time), because were not giving away our codes!!!
By reading this you agree to give me (Noxn) 1 dollar.
Is that the bottom-up approach they were talking about in TFS ?
Squirrel!
Do you know what happens when a programmer is paid by line of code?
Especially on OS X, PPC, what is up with Python using almost 70% of CPU while adding media to library? Apple' s Python is buggy? Or more important question (as same goes for Java), why Python was used? Because it is "fashion" or classy to use it in such matter?
I was forced to iTunes "podcast" using because someone had the genius idea of using Python for media catalogue generating. Perhaps it runs good on Linux/BSD but not on OS X.
Also how come it uses too much CPU while downloading? Isn't it people's number 1 concern with iTunes? There is "curl" in every OS X machine out there, why not use it instead? Or better embed wget?
How can we pay for removing the needless fashion style lines? :)
I would adopt a portion of code on the condition that is a bug I demand they fix.
That's it, I'm moving back to assembler. There are so many more lines there and I even get the added bonus of getting people to pay for NOOP lines :)
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I for one adopted the following little trooper:
GOTO START
What? Nobody else wanted him :(
If I give money to a project, I expect to become a stakeholder of it - i.e. the priority of my inputs to their bug tracker and wish list would take into account the contribution I make.
Otherwise, I'd be quite reluctant - probably just like everyone else.
Do I get a refund if "my" line turns out to be a security problem? If "my" line is replaced by a better one, do I get to keep both? I could go on, there are just so many questions that need answering :-)
running windows mobile??? BLASPHEMY!!!!
Stupidity only gets you so far, then you've gotta try
1. Code Bloat, millions of lines 2. ????? 3. Profit!
A neat idea, but, for FOSS projects at least, I think it would be more useful to be able to adopt lines of documentation rather than code. At least it would hopefully mean there are more of the former...
is better, That one feature that pleases you the most in software should get the most support the other crappy features should be selected out by nature. Binary-techno-evolution. the code should become pnuemetic to the environment. but software development can be a issue when you have mental illness, and hve to fight with the hierarchy all the god damn fucking time. esp, hen you do not want to take the pills.