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Windows 7 Launch Date Leaked — 23 Oct. 2009
Sockatume writes "Yesterday, two Acer executives in Europe separately let slip details that give us a good date for the release of Windows 7. First, Acer's vice-president for Europe discussed a new product, launching this September, that will support Windows 7's touch features. Asked whether this confirmed the Windows 7 release date as September 2009, he coyly remarked that 'when it's in store it won't have Windows 7 pre-loaded.' Microsoft would probably prefer that he had stopped there, but he added: 'We won't be actually selling [Windows 7] a day before the 23rd October.' Then, Acer's Managing Director for the UK helpfully clarified that while their product will ship with Windows Vista at launch, because it is on sale less than 30 days before the Windows 7 release date, it will be eligible for the 'upgrade program' to get a free upgrade to the new OS."
'We won't be actually selling [Windows 7] a day before the 23rd October.'
I hate to break it to you but that merely means the earliest possible date they could get Windows 7 is October 23rd. I'll bet that if everything goes on track perfectly according to schedule with the release candidate from now until October 23rd, that will be the release date. I'm going to bet--like with 90% of multi-million lines of code projects--that there will be at least some slipping in the schedule.
It's simply too far out there to be a solid date. I'm not sold, I feel this is a good hint but still just speculation. Vendors asked Microsoft when the earliest possible date is and they mistakenly relayed that to customers setting an expectation for their product.
My work here is dung.
Bet the farm Ma... Because Microsoft always hits their release dates.
What gets me about this sort of leak is that we all treat it as some sort of big news when in reality we are leaked information in this way all the time. Notice that it is always someone high up in the foodchain talking to someone in the media.
A real accidental leak would be something overheard at a bar where the speaker didn't know a reporter was listening. But when the guy says it straight out to a reporter, that isn't leaking, that's just an unofficial announcement.
Remember when Adam Osborne announced that the next version of his PC would be better than his current one and everyone stopped buying in anticipation? Leaks are always carefully planned but don't always have the effect you're looking for.
They say they don't want to cannibalize sales, so most companies have a strict rule about not speaking about future products, so as not to discourage users from purchasing the current line-up. That being said, I just don't see how that helps MS, being as loud as they can about their operating systems.
Take for instance the beta program. There's no secret windows 7 is coming. People are already holding off, without a date in mind.
Take for instance the discontinuation of Windows XP. I know tons of people who aren't buying Vista, and since they stopped selling xp, people just aren't buying windows.
I work in computer repair, and now, more than ever, people are just getting 6 year old computers fixed because they don't want vista, no matter what.
I think MS needs a new PR department.
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My birthday is the release data and I rather it not be dragged down by another depressing version of Windows.
Even if it be final I'm very hopeful for the new release and knowing that it will be before the winter holiday season (most likely) gives me great hope that I'll be able to get a final version by the end of the year. I've been running several linked versions and am currently running version 7100 and it's at least on par with XP for gaming, multitasking, and general use without the bugs and bloats of Vista.
You never know though, we could get a leaked final version a month early! Let's just hope Microsoft doesn't screw this up between now and October/November!
We shouldn't expect Wnidows 7 until at least May 2010?!
Take for instance the beta program. There's no secret windows 7 is coming. People are already holding off, without a date in mind.
I work for a large school district in PA and they're holding off for 7 until the 2010-2011 school year. IT staff can get it now since the RC is out, but until then nobody in the district wants to touch Vista unless it's specially requested.
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Why is everything about Windows 7 leaky? Or leak is now considered as an acceptable replacement for the word announce
What has this to do with SP1?
Hi, I'm looking for a list of talking points about why Windows 7 is horrible. They must be emotionally charged, unfounded, and repeated often enough that people start to believe. Preferably, I would like the opinion of people who think they know things about operating systems offering technical reasons why it is bad. That way my opinion seems more real, like the kids say.
Also, please leave things like facts out of this...they are unamerican and unnecessary in most of life.
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What has this to do with SP1?
Absolutely nothing. GP replied to the highest post rather than making their own thread.
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Is Windows 7 going to be using resources more efficiently, or less efficiently than Windows XP?
I still don't understand the concept that each new OS has to be more resource intensive than the last. I want something that can manage my resources, not consume them.
Other than to force us to buy the latest hardware, of course. But that's not for us. Where's our gain?
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considering the release date for most microsoft products gets "leaked" at some point when theyre remotely close to a release. to the open source community, regularly leaking dates about the release of your product is called a release schedule...so perhaps this is redmonds attempt?
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Vista may suck, but I hear Microsoft Mojave is really good! ;)
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When Vista was launched and no one adopted it in a big way... it was, like: This is what happened when XP got released.. .it will be okay when SP2 comes out. And now, Vista has well and truly bombed in Corporate Circles and now Windows 7 is coming up. Given that it is Vista SP3; it will receive the same response from Corporates despite XP running in Virtual mode; because the XP will not have direct access to hardware and old software will still be broken.
So what do the MS shills have to say now? If Vista is the greatest selling OS, why is a successor launched so soon? If newer h/w vendors come up with Netbooks running Linux or ARM-based h/w; how will MS respond?
If you keep throwing chairs, one day you'll break windows....
Oh keep talking about bad software, the way this is looking people will think that vista revisited (aka windows 7) is the best thing, And what leak? is not part of Microsoft plan to keep people paying attention to the crap
Just grow up
what do you mean?
Windows 7 is Vista SP2!
On no uncertain terms, Microsoft has to deliver in October.
Why? OEM's and Microsoft have already sold it into retailers like Worst Buy. Do you think Exec's at Worst Buy want to miss their golden revenue generator in Q4? Acer clearly has been working with Microsoft to deliver #7 for the holiday. I'm sure HP has stuff in the pipe for the holidays too.
If the date slips. It will be an ugly couple of weeks inside Microsoft Retail Sales.
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A new PR department? You can't polish a turd (try it sometime). Microsoft needs a new management structure for development and new development priorities.
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
You can't polish a turd (try it sometime
Actually, according to the mythbusters you can and they did.... :)
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Only MS software can leak before being released.
Or did I read that wrong?
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...no on my birthday!
It will forever be remembered as the dawn of oh teh horrorxorz!
How can I make a party on that day, when all the people will either be nauseous sick at home, or mourning the loss of their computers and family members?
Ubuntu 9.10 is currently slated to be released six days later.
Could it possibly be worth advancing Ubuntu's release date by about 10 days, just to steel Microsoft's thunder?
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Neah, 7 is Vista SP3 surely?
I'm no IE fan but I just installed it and it didn't override my settings. It did however change it's default search engine to yahoo, and when I went to change it back to Google the option wasn't there. I actually had to do a little work to get Google added back, which was annoying. Doesn't really matter, I'm sticking with Firefox...
Uh yeah. When I saw the headline, the first thing I thought was, "why is every piece of information about 7 coming out as a leak?"
I wouldn't install Vista with a ten foot pole. Now, maybe I'm an idiot for buying into the "Vista: bad" hype, but, well, I bought into it already, and so did lots of other people.
MS is working on 7 *because* Vista sucks (or is widely perceived to suck). We all know this. No need to try to hide anything. Just tell us what you're doing so we can prepare for 7.
I almost don't believe that every single tidbit of info on 7 genuinely leaking out. It just has to be deliberate. Lots of mundane details are coming out as "leaks" and I think it's because "leak" sounds more interesting than "announcement".
I don't know why this is a troll. Yeah it's a jab, but it's highly valid, and also funny.
I am strongly looking forward to 7 because I want more than 4 gigs of ram on a windows machine and I don't want to mess with Vista or 64-bit XP.
But um... They come out with really critical service packs really early these days...
I have definitely considered waiting...
Even better than mispelling is a well crafted ambigious use of 'lose' and 'loose'.
For example: "The Acer leak of the Win7 launch date caused Microsoft to loose this secret information."
This will cause many readers to reparse your sentence a couple of times trying to figure out what you really mean.
This release will come eight years almost to the day after the release of Windows XP. I'm using the beta of 7 at home, just like I used all the betas and RCs of XP at home. Looking at Windows then and Windows now, I see a huge missed opportunity. I am pleased with Windows 7, and I think Microsoft has made a lot of smart decisions in their design, production, and marketing of the OS, but it still feels like more of a mea culpa than a solid, polished OS.
If Microsoft's management had been on top of their shit, this product would have released four years ago and what we're seeing today could be so much more. Unfortunately, their back-to-the-drawing-board idea with Longhorn, though a good thing in the end, lost so many years of work and code that it seriously stunted Microsoft's growth of the OS.
Hence Windows Vista. Hence Windows 7. What I'm going to be most interested in is, once 7 is out and people lower the volume of their trash-talking, what is Microsoft going to do next? What major technologies are they working on? What is their vision for the desktop? Windows 7 is just Windows Vista with two more years of polish. Though a terrific upgrade from Vista, I want to hear more about Microsoft's research projects and what real, major features they're working on for future OSes. I'm tired of hearing about multitouch, because that is quickly becoming genericized among OS makers and will remain out of reach for most users for some time, being hardware-dependent.
Ask anyone what they'd change about Windows and you'll get a litany of complaints. Ask Microsoft and they'll tell you Windows is perfect, you just don't understand it.
"I almost don't believe that every single tidbit of info on 7 genuinely leaking out. It just has to be deliberate. Lots of mundane details are coming out as "leaks" and I think it's because "leak" sounds more interesting than "announcement"."
Exactly.
But what is wrong about Vista?
"I know tons of people who aren't buying Vista, and since they stopped selling xp, people just aren't buying windows."
Odd.
They're still selling XP from what I can tell.
They people who aren't buying Windows now are the same people who never buy Windows.
As you can see, ANY OEM can easily ship systems with XP. Dell still does. At no extra cost on many systems. Dell. The fucking largest OEM there is. So stop fucking lying.
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Dell is not the biggest OEM HP is. And most OEMs make it more difficult to buy XP.
The first security update for Windows 7 will be sent out.
I am amazed at the fact that anybody visiting this site even cares.
Now, maybe I'm an idiot for buying into the "Vista: bad" hype
Yes, you are.
Just tell us what you're doing so we can prepare for 7.
They're taking Windows Mojave and renaming it "Windows 7". See, now you don't have to worry about buying the evil Vista!
Unix is user friendly, it's just selective about who its friends are.
Holy Shit! You aren't full of it!
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I like Vista except for one BIG problem... the friggin winsxs folder that grows like a cancer, eventually eating up all available disk space. (Mine is currently pushing 10GB.) The sxs feature SEEMS like a good idea, but I don't really run much legacy software, and I would be willing to take my risks turning sxs off if I could. But you can't. You can't do ANYTHING that significantly reduces its size. You're not even supposed to move it to a compressed folder. Bleh.
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Just love windows 7! It is everything Vista should have been. Saying this, i make my living since 1997 on non windows software.
nobody cares faggot
I still believe that Windows 7 should be a free upgrade to Windows Vista buyers...It's been a very short run for Vista and with people having forked out for Vista I think that Microsoft may have a difficult time charging again for Windows 7.
When all is said and done, nothing changes...
According to the release schedule https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule that is a day after the Karmic release candidate. Karmic will be released on October 29th and I don't expect slippage on that. Mark was talking about distros getting release dates aligned, I didn't expect Microsoft to be the first to respond.
I'm certainly not lying. I'm just mis-informed. Point taken.
That being said, I still challenge you to go to walmart and find me an XP machine. Or find an easily accessible XP retail copy for your new vista machine (note, installing OEM on a computer after it's built is against the EULA).
Maybe it's not impossible, but for an average computer user, it's vanished from their eyes.
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Why are your flamebait replies to me so irrelevant to the points I made? Is it because you lack reading comprehension, or because you're just being an asshole?
Yes, you are.
That is irrelevant. If you had bothered to read as far as the second clause of the sentence, you might have been able to understand that the point I was making was that a sizable portion of the windows using public does not like Vista, and no matter how stupid they *may* be for not liking it, the fact is that this hurts sales. The reason I made this point was to support the following (and more important) point that releasing information about Windows 7 will not hurt Vista; Vista's reputation will hurt Vista. But you just had to focus on the first three words of the sentence. You couldn't go any further. Now, I may be an idiot (I won't deny it), but your miserable failure to understand -- not two sentences strung together -- but just ONE whole sentence -- it just makes me think that you might be an even bigger idiot than I am.
They're taking Windows Mojave and renaming it "Windows 7"...
Again, you are missing the point. I know what Microsoft is doing. We all do. The information was leaked (see TFA). The point I was making was not that I want them to tell me information because I don't know it, but that I want them to openly announce their progress with 7, rather than allowing it to come out in "leak" form.
Vista with a different name, or at least a system which is substantially Vista code based.
Windows 7 has lower system requirements...
Clearly, as far as marketing of software goes, you can polish a turd.
Or perhaps they are just skipping versions to save money, like many enterprises do?
You said people weren't buying Vista.
Therfore, those people wouldn't be looking to replace their non-existent Vista with XP, would they?
In case you haven't noticed, DELL is the largest OEM there is, and they still offer plenty of XP options.
Walmart?
Go to?
Let's look at their in-store items:
http://www.walmart.com/browse/Computers/Desktop-Computers/_/N-2pbh?ic=48_0&catNavId=41937&ref=125875.126125%20501457.501458&tab_value=37_Store
XP!
XP exists if you want, and yes, you can still get the retail version. If it's not pre-installed on the PC of your choice, simply ask the OEM to give it to you. They will happily comply most of the time.
You cannot get windows xp on many prebuilt computers. If you think that, coupled with widespread vista hatred, is not making at least some marginal group of people pick up macbooks instead of dells, then you are smokin the reefer.
How is this a troll? It's a factual correction the parent, which is more of a troll (suggesting MS needs a new PR department).
Oh /., you fucking piece of shit.
For me I lost Abobe Acrobat 6 when i went to Vista and it isn't like Win7 will now rescue that for me (though maybe with the VM...)
So yeah don't you think that the vm of xp will, in fact, rescue that? I mean shouldn't it?
Why is your sxs folder growing? Isn't that just from installing various com applications that use different versions of the com dlls? If so, are you really installing that many apps like that? Also, I thought that sxs was like way older than Vista (I know it's at least present in XP/2003).
You can get windows xp on many prebuilt computers.
Dell.
eMachines.
HP/Compaq.
Stop. Spreading. Lies.
interesting point.
I guess it's another point in favor of win7 = vista sp3 since win7 will be so good that deploying RTM is actually a possibility. No longer waiting to SP1 or SP2 or update.
I was making was that a sizable portion of the windows using public does not like Vista
citation needed.
Sizable portion of Slashdot maybe. (And I say this as someone who still uses XP and 2000 - but I don't fool myself into thinking that consumers in general are staying away from Vista.)
Pfft, I'm holding our company on windows XP until Windows 8 comes out. Everyone knows, you skip over a few renditions, like from 98 past ME and 2000 to XP :)
Considering that Microsoft has already redefined "Release Canidate", I don't see why Microsoft shouldn't just launch at Service Pack 1 myself.
Even though it's almost 6 mo. away, I don't think I will jump on the bandwagon right then. When the time comes, I will extend a warm welcome to our Windows 7 overlords.
But how much can Windows be worth these days if a new computer can be purchased for $300 - $400? Surely most of this price is for the hardware. If Windows was priced according to this math, I'll willing to buy an upgrade.
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I don't KNOW why it's growing. I don't have many old apps, and none (that I can think of) that are updated regularly. I have mostly development tools installed (VS2008, Adobe CS, Multisim).
sxs predates vista but vista is a LOT more agressive with it. That's the problem. 10GB is almost half of my boot partition.
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It does not have lower system requirements. Without a modern graphic card you're still stuck up shit creek without a paddle.
Therfore, those people wouldn't be looking to replace their non-existent Vista with XP, would they?
Are you dense? Or am I just replying before you're marked troll?
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My claims are backed with fact. Your claims are all anecdotal.
I can show you hundreds of ways to get XP, but whenever I show you how to get XP, you ignore it and claim that it's still impossible to get XP.
You mention Staples now?
Fine, go to their fucking site and look shit up.
They offer netbooks from HP, Dell, Acer, Samsung, Asus, and Msi that have XP!
Any moron can say "I want XP" at any store and they will either be given XP (possibly at an added cost), or will be told some bullshit like the kind you're spreading: "We can't sell XP anymore", "XP doesn't run in this laptop because of the drivers", etc.
When they're told they can't XP, they simply go elsewhere.