OpenOffice 3.1 Released
harmonise writes "OpenOffice 3.1 has been released. According to the release announcement, this update received 'The biggest single change (half a million lines of code!) and the most
visible is the major revamp of OpenOffice.org on-screen graphics.' See the OpenOffice 3.1 New Features page for a full list of changes."
Finally with antialiasing !
Fedora 11, which is due to be released in about 3 weeks, will have OO3.1
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MS Office doesn't come free, it comes via barter or monetary goods exchange. "free" is relative to what you consider worthy.
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and still no Clippy the paperclip to help me write a letter?
Having a lot of lines of code is not necessarily something to brag about. In fact, it's more likely to be an indicator of badness than goodness.
If the product works great, people won't care how many lines of code it has. If it's buggy or sluggish or in other ways wonky, people might look at the code line count and point to that as the problem. ("It's bloated!" "It's so big no one can understand it or fix it!")
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Screw the naysayers, congratulations to everybody working in OpenOffice.org
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I have heard for a long time how horrible OOo looked. Personally, I never understood what the problem was. The icons were clear and easy to dostinguosh between them, and the text-buttons were obvious.
Compared to the newest version of MS Office, I'd say that any version of OOo wins hands down.
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It uses themeable widgets so it only looks ugly if you whole desktop does.
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Does it offer the ability to have an auto-updating word count in the status bar yet? It's absolutely essential to many people, particularly copywriters who are paid to hit a particular word count. It seems like such a trivial thing to implement and has been requested many times.
"OpenOffice.org now uses a technique called anti-aliasing..."
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You had me until "Microsoft"...
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Forgive me, but I am a bit ignorant on this, could someone tell me when and how it came to pass that Oracle now has relationship with Open Office?
You mean other than the fact that they own Sun and the OOo team is mostly Sun engineers? Yeah that was a pretty difficult one to solve.
Personally, I am waiting for go-oo.org 3.1, as that is what goes into Debian, Ubuntu, SuSE, Gentoo and others.
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I get some weird "download chooser" page, and if I select MacOSX from there, it won't download either. This is with Safari 4.
I think somebody is trying to be too "smart".
...the most visible is the major revamp of OpenOffice.org on-screen graphics.
Well, Duh! I'll bet the least visible is the off screen graphics.
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"OpenOrifice is still just a lame piece of software for people who are too cheap to buy quality Microsoft software
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Technically, at this time oracle does not own sun.
They have announced that they will purchase them and the sale is pending, but until that time the two companies are totally independent and functionally must continue to operate as such.
So sometime this summer the oracle logo will be correct, but currently it is wrong.
When it encounters a ODF 1.1 document with formula arguments separated by commas created by the MsOffice2007 SP2, does it throw up a really really big nasty warning dialog that says, "MsOffice2007 is using ODF 1.1, please contact the vendor and urge them to start supporting ODF 1.2. We will be nice this one last time and hack around the commas and make them colons. But best if you could persuade the vendor of ODF1.1 docs to upgrade to ODF 1.2"?
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Free isn't even the correct English word for 'free of charge'
Sorry to pick on you grammer nazi but if your going to do it right you should follow your own advice look it up...
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/free%5B1%5D
See number 10 'not costing or charging anything'
That is FREE as in *NO* cost. There are other meanings of free, not just your narrow minded ones. I am with the original guy if I had a choice between OO and MS Office for free as in no cost (which he apparently has). It is not even a contest, I would take ms office. If you are saying otherwise you are either deluded, maniacal, brainwashed, or a liar.
Here is what it comes down to. Yes I can get at the code. But guess what *I DO NOT HAVE TIME*, or inclination to do so. I have the capability, I also could really care less. I just want to use my programs in peace. I will use whatever I think is the best of breed. FOSS does not always mean that. In my experience it is usually mediocre. Sorry if I offend anyone but it is true. Some people seem to think because it is free that is better. There are real gems out there (such as winmerge, firefox) that I use every day. Other times such as with OO it is a 'good effort' but does not measure up. FOSS is getting there in quality. But it is slow going...
I will give OO a try again (have since 2.x days). It might be better this time. It might stack up ever since that crazy 2007 ribbon bar from office came out. I doubt it.
This just in: Words in the English language can actually have more than 1 meaning! But the Stallmanesque rant was pretty funny.
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but it has had times where it seemed out of place on either Windows or OSX
And that's exactly why iTunes has been such a success on Windows. It looks just like a native app...
And Windows is free if your time and money have no value.
The phrase "gratis of charge" is redundant. "Gratis" suffices, although it has the unfortunate side effect of making you sound like a pretentious scholar that likes to toss around latin words that nobody knows.
OpenOrifice is still just a lame piece of software for people who are too cheap to buy quality Microsoft software.
I didn't know Microsoft was in that business..
it has had times where it seemed out of place on either Windows or OSX (particular OSX before it was a native application).
I use NeoOffice on my Mac and see no reason to switch right now.
when I'm using a program and I can tell it wasn't designed for the system I'm running it on, I count that as a problem.
What matters to me is whether it is and how much it's usable. That's one reason I won't switch for now, NeoOffice is quite usable. Then again I hardly use it.
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So someone decided to run a code tidying tool and dared to check in the results I guess?
I read the script, and I think it would help my character's motivation if he was on fire. -Bender
MS Office/Excel won't open two files of the same name, and insists on only one working window, forcing the user to "split" in order to compare spreadsheets. OO Calc does both.
OO Writer has a button for generating PDFs sans any Adobe integration.
The advantage to MS Office is that your client is more than likely authoring documents on an MS Office product, and absolute compatibility is not assured. But I don't fault the OO developers for that.
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Sorry to pick on you grammer nazi but if your going to do it right you should follow your own advice
Yes, "YOUR" right his "GRAMMER" was teh sux, also while we're at it when you say you could care less you imply that you do care about the issue, as you have the ability to care less than you currently do about it.
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They still haven't fixed what I regard as the biggest bug in OO: the fact that file-opening and -saving dialogues default to the last directory it used rather than the current working directory when running on GNU/Linux. It is understandable that OO would use the MS Windows convention when running on MS Windows, but importing those conventions into Unix is a bad user-interface practice. There's a reason that Unix people move from directory to directory. For experienced Unix users who use different directories for different projects, the failure to track the current directory is very irritating.
Even if they feel it necessary to provide the option of using the MS Windows conventions for people switching from MS Windows to Unix, it should be an option, not a requirement. And I doubt that this would be hard to do: determining the default directory for those dialogues is presumably only done in one or two places and should be very simple to code.
But still useless for any professional setting or high-level business education. Staistical and financial plug-ins are vastly inferior to MS Office. No VBA for business applications. These two alone make a hobby app for basic home uses, nothing game changing and certainly still not a real competitor to MS Office. That's not even mentioning the online collaboration tools of MS Office as well as Live Workspace. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed."
> The UI is still the Office 95 clone, which works how we used to design user interactivity *15* years ago.
And the wheel is a THOUSAND years old. Quit whining about just because something is old, that newer is better.
But then I shouldn't expect better then someone who doesn't even have the balls to post with a name.
There isn't any rule to make it wrong. You can disagree with it, but that doesn't establish that it is wrong, just that you disagree with it.
Uhm.. yeah there is. This isn't kindergarten where every child is a treasure and there is no wrong so we don't hurt people's feelings. Saying you're going to buy something isn't the same as owning something.
You can't go to a car dealership, tell them you want to buy a car then slap on your "I heart <topic>" bumper stickers on it and take it to the beach until you fork over the money.
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It's worth clarifying that although his blog post did help to point out a particular performance problem, he wasn't the one who coded the fix ...
I bought Office for my business and still switched to OpenOffice. OpenOffice works better for large documents, the integration with Calc is better, the document format is easy to manipulate with other programs, I could install it and freely share it when I needed to, and use it on any platform I choose.
Hands down the better application.
Application looks dont mean much when you are producing 3000 page document for a nice tidy sum of $$ and want to get the job done. Lyx may have been a good choice too, but for the collaborative parts I do, OpenOffice fits in a little better.
And if you need all the functionality of the latest Power Point, you just give bad presentations.