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Windows 7 RCs Shut Down To Force Updates

nk497 writes "The release candidate for Microsoft Windows 7 will expire June 2010, and the software giant will let users know they need to pay to upgrade by shutting down the system every two hours for three months. According to Microsoft: "The RC will expire on June 1, 2010. Starting on March 1, 2010, your PC will begin shutting down every two hours. Windows will notify you two weeks before the bi-hourly shutdowns start. To avoid interruption, you'll need to install a non-expired version of Windows before March 1, 2010. You'll also need to install the programs and data that you want to use.""

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  1. Crackfix please by Spazztastic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How long until someone crackfixes this? TIA.

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    1. Re:Crackfix please by Spazztastic · · Score: 5, Funny

      about 4 seconds... 3... 2... 1....

      Hurry! It's shutting me down!

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    2. Re:Crackfix please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Who wants to use the RC version of Windows 7 forever? The RTM version will be released and cracked long before March 2010.

    3. Re:Crackfix please by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Providing a (free as in beer) RC version that works, uncrippled, until mid 2010, would drive down sales.

      Hence the crippling.

    4. Re:Crackfix please by MrAngryForNoReason · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why would people hate Microsoft for making available a free release candidate of their new OS that can be used with no restriction for the next 11 months?

      At that point users of the release candidate can either pay for a license or reinstall their old OS.

      This isn't some nefarious move by Microsoft it is just the end of the evaluation period of the release candidate.

    5. Re:Crackfix please by InsertWittyNameHere · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's not "free as in beer." It's "free as in drugs" as in "the first hit is always free."

    6. Re:Crackfix please by Taagehornet · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why would people hate Microsoft for making available a free release candidate of their new OS that can be used with no restriction for the next 11 months?

      You really must be new around here... ;-)

    7. Re:Crackfix please by UncleTogie · · Score: 4, Informative

      When I installed Vista on a used laptop it didn't recognize the Vista CD Key on the laptop and wouldn't let me log in to the system. Only thing it would display is "YOUR KEY IS INVALID. PLEASE ENTER A VALID KEY OR CALL... (etc)". Safe mode didn't work either.

      First thought that came to mind is that you might've been using a Retail disk for an OEM install. While I've seen OEM disks from different PC makers work on other brands, I've yet to see a Retail version work with an OEM serial number.

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    8. Re:Crackfix please by Cowmonaut · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's an RC. If you were fool enough to install Windows 7 and use it at a production level then you get what is coming. If you installed it at home and you only had one box you should of known from the start that something like this would happen. People who think like your comment suggests are a big problem in today's society. It represents yet again that some people want things to be provided to them for free exactly how they want it and damn anyone who does otherwise.

    9. Re:Crackfix please by unlametheweak · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's not "free as in beer." It's "free as in drugs" as in "the first hit is always free."

      Yeah it's the same with sex, and then you get married.

    10. Re:Crackfix please by nizo · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm just excited to hear that Microsoft is giving out free copies of their OS so that people who write malware won't have to buy a copy to port their software to the new platform.

    11. Re:Crackfix please by jim_v2000 · · Score: 4, Informative

      >How many "data files" will it make that are Windows 7 only, making return to XP impossible? None.

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    12. Re:Crackfix please by Dog-Cow · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Piracy is nothing more than selfish humans leeching other people's work and not wanting to lose the free ride.

      Modern copyright law is nothing more than selfish and greedy middlemen not wanting to lose their free ride.

    13. Re:Crackfix please by maxwell+demon · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think it's a silly restriction for game demos if you can't save. It's reasonable that you can't load (after all, it's a demo), but is there any reason why you shouldn't be allowed to continue a game on the full version after you started it on the demo version?

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    14. Re:Crackfix please by jonnythan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, the RC1 does work, fully uncrippled, until March of 2010.

      Geez. Microsoft releases a release candidate of their next major OS and lets everyone on earth use it for free for 10 months..... and people still complain because it begins to nag the user after 10 months.

      Only on Slashdot.

    15. Re:Crackfix please by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Mod parent up =) I appears he has experience in the trenches

    16. Re:Crackfix please by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Pushers" looking to get you hooked are a fabrication by the drug warriors

      Yes and no.

      Free, or discount-rate, samples are a useful marketing tool for drug dealers as well as other "legitimate" businesses. Since so many of the drugs in question are addictive, there is an element of truth to pushers 'getting people hooked'.

      It's not a myth created by the "drug warriors".

      Not all drug dealers fit into this stereotype, but some definitely do. It's a business; identifying your potential markets, increasing the size of those markets, and increasing your penetration into those markets are all things done by successful dealers, although they may not refer to them in those terms. Another important strategy is steering customers to your highest-margin products; this is even better when they are adding those products on top of existing products, instead of replacing the other products. "Pushing" drugs and offering free samples are a great way to do all of these things.

      If you haven't personally experienced these things, well, that's probably a measure of your exposure. Or it's a measure of how mature the market is where you are; a mature market doesn't require as much development.

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    17. Re:Crackfix please by geobeck · · Score: 4, Funny

      It appears he has experience in the trenches.

      I'm sure there's an anatomical comment in there, but I'm not gonna go there...

      Actually, after escaping from ten years of purgatory, I guess I already did. ;)

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    18. Re:Crackfix please by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah it's the same with sex, and then you get married.

      What planet are you from?

      With sex, it's "pay out the nose for it one way or another", then you get married, and it becomes "not at any price except for purposes of procreation and then you better be able to perform on-demand at the whim of the Fertility Gods as intimated by the Basal Thermometer Oracle and meanwhile all you can think of is a crying infant and the fact that you wore tight jeans yesterday and whether you remembered to backup your systems and then you have to go see a urologist because of your 'performance issues'".

      Or so I've heard.

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    19. Re:Crackfix please by BrokenHalo · · Score: 5, Funny

      What's the problem? If it shuts down at predictable intervals, it's a big improvement...

      *ducks*

    20. Re:Crackfix please by BrokenHalo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      then you get married, and it becomes "not at any price except for purposes of procreation...
      ...Or so I've heard.


      Well, there is another side to that story: my wife and I are in our mid 40s. She was on the pill for most of the 25 years we have been together, and our sex life declined along the lines of the jar-of-beans statistic commonly mentioned.

      Since my wife stopped taking the pill (I guess gambling that if an unwanted pregnancy were to happen, there have already been multiple opportunities for such a mishap), the boot is now on the other foot (so to speak), the rampant horny hormones have taken hold, and I'm now the one who has to struggle to keep up.

      You young 'uns might think there are worse ways to go than being balled to death, but there are times when I am more then happy just to sit in an armchair reading a novel, thank you very much.

    21. Re:Crackfix please by bill_kress · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not disagreeing with you at all--but do you recognize that you are putting crack dealers on the same level as wineries? Many addictive drug dealers have used these techniques for years--The creators of cigarettes, wine and beer have often given their drugs away to try to create new addicts--in fact if I'm not mistaken, cigarettes were given to the military as part of rations WWII (and WWI?).

      Makes you think--I mean the cigarette manufactures are more aggressive in that way than dealers of every other drug (possibly even including alcohol) combined and they have killed many more people and cost society much more...

      I don't know where I'm going with this, but there is a point to be made there somewhere.

  2. Um... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I Just changed my system clock to see what would happ

    1. Re:Um... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I Just changed my system clock to see what would happ

      Well? What happened? You stopped in the middle of typing like you were talking about Candlejack or somethi

  3. You're Surprised at No Take Backs? by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Insightful
    First off, might I applaud Davey Winder for his even handed non-biased journalism:

    Has Microsoft gone mental?

    What is totally mental, and I mean running around the supermarket without your pants on shouting "where is the mustard" mad ...

    Here is what Mental Microsoft has to say on the matter

    I get it, you learned a new word: mental. Please, try to use it in moderation and only when discussing things with your too cool for school third grade friends.

    Really, you sound surprised. Didn't they warn us about this anyway? That's why the general populace was not supposed to install this. For savvy users with their old image on a backup drive it's a minor inconvenience.

    Can one automagically revert to the legal Windows (if any) they had installed before they installed Windows 7? Of course not, this would make sense. And provide an easy way out of migration. For those who need an ill formed & flawed car analogy: It is like taking a new car for a test drive only to return to the dealership to discover that your old car has been crushed into a cube.

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    1. Re:You're Surprised at No Take Backs? by Xugumad · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm damn sure there was a warning in the giant pages of stuff I had to read before I was given the W7 RC. Certainly, I read this and went "Erm, yeah..."

      On top of which, it's always been very clearly "Do NOT install on a production system, this is for testing only". If it wiped my drive wholesale, it wouldn't be a catastrophe, because it's not on a system I can't trivially re-install. Methinks he didn't really read all the details...

    2. Re:You're Surprised at No Take Backs? by MrAngryForNoReason · · Score: 5, Insightful

      For those who need an ill formed & flawed car analogy: It is like taking a new car for a test drive only to return to the dealership to discover that your old car has been crushed into a cube.

      It is clearly stated on the site where the Release Candidate is downloaded from that it is not recommended to install on your main machine as it will be necessary to reinstall a different OS at the end of the evaluation period. It is intended to be used on a testing machine, or by people who don't mind reinstalling after March next year.

      It amazes me that Microsoft give away a trial version of their new OS for anyone to try out for almost a year and there are so many people whose response is negative. If you don't want to have to reinstall next year then don't use it. Or wait for the retail release and buy a copy.

      If I gave you a house on a rent-free 12 month lease would you piss and whine about how inconvenient moving out would be?

  4. Late to the party! by TheRealJobe · · Score: 5, Informative

    File this under already announced before RC1 was released to the public, and file a second copy under you get what you pay for.

  5. I See No Problem With This by fyrie · · Score: 5, Informative

    MS has been upfront about this since before they pushed the RC.

    1. Re:I See No Problem With This by KiltedKnight · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Agreed. If it was part of the EULA (there's that dreaded acronym again), then the users have no reason to complain about it. Though if nothing else, Microsoft might want to consider giving people who download and use this beta a discount on their "official release" copy.

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  6. Story's title is flamebait by krelian · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's not shutting down to force updates, it's shutting down when the trial period expires.

    This is well known, was discussed here several times and is clearly mentioned on the Microsoft download page.

    To be honest it seems like slashdot has more stories about Microsoft than about Free software.

  7. Is anyone else besides me worried... by tekiegreg · · Score: 4, Funny

    That this will wind up in the actual release in some form or another by mistake...it's only so easy to track zillions of lines of code after all.

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  8. Been there, done that by lurker412 · · Score: 4, Funny

    It sounds like a fully licensed version of Win95.

  9. Is this really new? by Schnoogs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Did everyone think MS was giving away a free OS??? I've come across people in other forums literally cussing out MS as if this is some dirty trick.

    Never underestimate the stupidity of some people. Like they think you have two options with Windows 7...either download the free version or go the store and buy the version that costs $100.

    Morons.

  10. That's OK by MadAnalyst · · Score: 4, Funny

    It won't be much of a pain due to the blindingly fast Windows 7 boot time, right?

  11. An upgrade is technically possible... by alta · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Say, oh, 15 million people install RC (I did.)
    Come June, you want to start getting paid (you're M$), you have two options...

    1. Release an 'upgrade to paid version' where you charge people FULL PRICE for the equivilent of whatever they're running. (I'm using ultimate)

    2. Force people to pay for the version they choose AND reinstall everything.

    Now, to get the most money out of me, and I'd bet most everbody, they should do #1. A year from now, I'm going to have installed a lot of stuff, done a LOT of customizing and unless it's just time to rebuild, I'm REALLY not going to want to reinstall. I would be HAPPY to pay for Ultimate at that point. The alternative is go back to Vista which I've already paid for or reboot every 2 hours. Neither are good for me, so I'll start looking for a crack. Time is money, and I'd spend way more money rebuilding to get off the RC than I'd spend paying for an ultimate license.

    But, I'd bet Microsoft is going #2. No betting actually, that's the plan. So they're going to have a bunch of people who are just going to deal with reboots. Then there will be a bunch of people who are going to go the cracking route. Then there's the people who are going to pay, but will downgrade because they don't use all that ultimate crap anyway. And what's left, are the people who fall in line and do what M$ wants them too. But think of all the money they could have gotten from the others, had they only offered an upgrade path...

    And it's not like it's a complicated upgrade, just replace the part of the system that makes this an RC build! That's got to be easier than a service pack!

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  12. Who cares? by Aliencow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is this being posted over and over on very tech site?

    Who cares?
    You're installing a beta or a release candidate. Do you expect it to be supported forever?

    And are we really surprised Microsoft put in just a tiny bit of protection to prevent the average joe from continuing to use Windows 7 RC forever?

  13. This is a good thing by amaiman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not sure why people keep bringing up this issue. It's a release candidate being released for evaluation of software that isn't free. If they didn't disable it after a certain date, people would continue to use it indefinitely, and then would expect support as well. By forcing people to upgrade to the release version, it ensures they're not using an old, buggy release candidate. (Whether the final release will be better remains to be seen, of course, this is a Microsoft product, after all :-)

    Everyone is given fair warning about this before installing the RC (which shouldn't really be on production systems anyway). If you don't like what you see, then stop using it, otherwise upgrade to the release version when it comes out.

    A method to upgrade to release without having to completely reinstall would be nice, but they've never done that in the past and I wouldn't expect to see it done this time, either.

  14. It's also nicer than the alternative by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The normal course of action for a time limited demo would be to simply stop functioning when your time expires. That is what I expect from such things and how most of them work.

    However, what happens if you didn't get all your data off and so on? Well, this offers you a way to be able to operate the system, just with restrictions. It is a nicer way of handling things.

  15. Hurray! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    about 4 seconds...
    3... 2... 1....

    Hurray! It's shutting me down!

    Fixed that for you.

  16. Re:Better yet: by Kaboom13 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wait, so the OS initiating a shutdown (one of the OS's functions) after it passes a clearly defined date, in accordance with the licensing terms you agreed to on an OS you are getting for free to use for testing purposes is illegal? MS has been perfectly clear from the start what this release is for. They would be fully within their rights to have the os stop functioning completely after the date. The only way they would be responsible for damages is if it intentionally damaged the hardware in some way. Heck, if it accidentally destroys the hardware, they are still in the clear because they made it perfectly clear this was a no guarantees testing purposes build.

    This is the ultimate non-story that makes the community look bad because it's pointless anti-ms rabble rousing instead of actual legitimate criticism.

  17. You're not alone by jonaskoelker · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm sure there's an anatomical comment in there, but I'm not gonna go there...

    Neither are the rest of us /.ers :(