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The Pirate Bay Seeks Interesting Route To "Pay" Fine

Drivintin is one of many who have written to tell us about how The Pirate Bay has taken an interesting approach to the 30 million SEK fine levied in their recent court case (which they said they wont pay). "The bill inspired anakata to devise a plan involving sending money to Danowsky's law firm, but not to pay the fine of course which they say will never be paid. Anakata's clever plan is called internet-avgift, internet-fee in English. Anakata encourages all Internet users to pay extremely small sums around 1 SEK (0.13 USD) to Danowsky's law firm, which represented the music companies at the Pirate Bay trial. The music companies will not benefit from this, instead it will cost them money to handle and process all the money."

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  1. Idiots by bruce_the_loon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does Sweden have contempt of court?

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    1. Re:Idiots by Runaway1956 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Perhaps you didn't read that the judge is drinking buddies with the prosecution? The judge belongs to several - uhhh - "fraternities" whose goal is to enrich the *iaa's of the world? Perhaps you missed the fact that a jail term was handed down for what amounts to a civil matter? Or, maybe the fact that this court (let alone the judge) has no jurisdiction over the servers? (I'm not certain whether the court has jurisdiction over the company or not, but the servers are definitely beyond the court's jurisdiction - I should find out where TPB is incorporated as a business)

      I'm not savvy enough to explain a whole lot more, but, yes - this kangaroo court is so flawed and tainted that any lawyer in the world should be embarassed to even read about it. Everyone involved in the prosecution whored themselves out shamelessly.

      Wrong country, wrong court, wrong judge, and most definitely the wrong complainants.

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  2. Paying in Pennies by rednip · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Reminds me of people who try to pay the government in pennies, or I guess that dimes would be more appropriate in this case. However, it's the pirate bay who owes the money, and need to pay, not 'random people'. I suppose that they could collect the (I'm guessing) coins and haul it to them in wheelbarrows, but it's likely that's been done to lawyers already and it's somehow prohibited.

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    1. Re:Paying in Pennies by veganboyjosh · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I have a hard enough time remembering all of my details enough to satisfy the people at whatever utility I'm trying to pay. I've had a conversation on several occasions with the operator about "I just want to pay my bill. I don't need a balance, I don't care the due date, I don't want any information. I just want to give you money." And they can't help me without my PIN, password, elementary school, etc.

  3. That's an interesting way to bankrupt a company. by process · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Now there's a flaw in our economy that's waiting to be exploited. Handling fees that are higher than the amount received, effectively draining the company of cash.

    It would also drain resources and create massive amounts of paperwork. Even though the process may be mostly automated I'd hate to revise those books, assuming enough people had done this.

    Kind of like a distributed denial of service attack.

    Of course it's easily remedied by blocking all cash transfers under a certain amount. I guess you're not obliged to accept money, but still it'd cause some extra work. Probably not enough to bring any given company down, but an interesting thought nonetheless.

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  4. Re:Sure, pay in pennies. by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This does not scare the unemployed college student :-)

    I had a friend in grad school whose credit card company screwed up his billing to the tune of 56 cents. He turned on the TV, poured himself a drink, and sat on the phone talking (wasting the time of) various people for hours over days until they just gave him the 56 cents (they never admitted wrong doing).

    I remember this because I visited his apartment on the second day of his quest and thought to myself: "He's still at this?". While he was on the phone, the TV cut to breaking news of OJ Simpson leading police on a chase in a white Bronco. The CC company gave up about the same time as OJ.

  5. wtf? by shentino · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Didn't TPB appeal?

  6. Re:That's.... really not smart. by Heddahenrik · · Score: 5, Interesting

    India got independence with actions like this. Farmers and fishers use it all the time quite successfully. The idea is simple: Make it unprofitable for others to oppose you.

  7. Re:Awesome by googlesmith123 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I live in Norway (country next to sweden). And the way banking works here is that it doesn't cost ME anything to transfer money. But companies have to pay for every little part of their banking, so they have to pay to send/receive money.

    As for the "reversed false payment". That's a law that says if someone accidentally transfers money to someone and then makes the recipient aware of the mistake, then the recipient is obliged to return the money. There was an interesting case where a woman had made a typo in the bank account field and transferred a large amount of money to a total stranger. The total stranger then used all the money on gambling. Once the mistake had been found out it was too late (seeing as how all the money was gone), so the woman took the total stranger to court and won.

    I'm not sure how applicable this is seeing how the amount of money is so small, but i guess it might still be valid.

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  8. Re:Awesome by hairyfeet · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't use P2P but for everyone else I say go for it. Rob those bastards blind. Why? One sentence: Steamboat Willie is still under copyright. Think about that for a minute. That man has been worm food (or a Popsicle depending on who you believe) for a half a fricking century and yet his first work, one made when cars were started with a crank and antibiotics were just a crazy dream, is STILL under copyright.

    Copyrights were a CONTRACT, nothing more. In return for a LIMITED copyright We, The People got a richer Public Domain. Instead they used outright bribery to corrupt our politicians and buy our laws away from us. So I say screw the thieving bastards. Let them rot. They used their money to steal our public domain away from us so if someone wants to steal from the thieves I say more power to them. I just can't be bothered because I honestly think their product is shit and isn't even worth stealing. But frankly expecting us to feel so sorry for those thieving bastards is just pushing it too far. Put the copyrights back to the way they were for over a century and quit robbing our public domain!

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