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Google Tricycles To Map Footpaths For Street View

CNETNate writes "To advance its Street View service this summer, Google is poised to unleash the unstoppable power of human legs. Google will deploy pedal-powered tricycles — the company calls them 'Google Trikes' — mounted with 360 degree Street View cameras to map areas inaccessible by its fleet of Street View cars." The article indicates that the trikes will first see use in the UK, to map out public walking paths, but one anonymous commenter said: "This must be bogus — you are not allowed to cycle on public footpaths in the UK, I can't believe Google would have overlooked such a fundamental fact. Not to mention that the vehicle pictured wouldn't fit down most paths." PC World features the trikes in Rome.

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  1. Hmmm . . . . by arizwebfoot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Do they (Google) actually pay you to do that?

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    1. Re:Hmmm . . . . by JCSoRocks · · Score: 2, Funny

      Good luck when you hit a set of stairs! Those pictures will turn out *awesome*.

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    2. Re:Hmmm . . . . by TinFoilMan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why troll? I thought it was a good question.

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    3. Re:Hmmm . . . . by stephanruby · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't know. If the natives are going to come after me with their pitchforks, I'd rather be in a vehicle with better get away speed.

    4. Re:Hmmm . . . . by 16Chapel · · Score: 3, Informative

      When they said paths, I at first thought of a path into/through the woods...not a public place like mentioned in the article.

      You were right to think that - 'footpaths' in the UK are often in the countryside, or along canals or through parks etc. When they are in a city, they often were there before the city; very old routes that have been public pathways for centurys. The laws governing them and right-of-way on them go right back to medieval times.

  2. Good job kdawson! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "The article indicates that the trikes will first see use in the UK"

    He then goes on to link to pictures of them actually being used in Rome. Did the UK annex Rome?

    1. Re:Good job kdawson! by queenb**ch · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Put cameras on everyone's cats.... You'll get a lot more than a "street view".....

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    2. Re:Good job kdawson! by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Put cameras on everyone's cats.... You'll get a lot more than a "street view".....

      And speaking of people's cats, you could put them up dogs' noses and get many an entertaining shot.

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    3. Re:Good job kdawson! by nitehawk214 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Put cameras on everyone's cats.... You'll get a lot more than a "street view".....

      Especially the view from Ceiling Cat.

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    4. Re:Good job kdawson! by Jbcarpen · · Score: 4, Funny

      I suspect the average cat would be difficult to put up a dogs nose. I do however think that if you managed to do so, then there would indeed be entertaining footage to be had.

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    5. Re:Good job kdawson! by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Funny

      I suspect the average cat would be difficult to put up a dogs nose.

      Only in solid form.

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  3. Next up: by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Google Sherpa!

    1. Re:Next up: by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 4, Informative

      They already did!

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  4. Pretty soon ... by jsnipy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Soon there will be "Google Stuff in Your House" where a half dozen guys dressed head to toe in black with head mounted cameras will rifle through your belongings, cabinets, and drawers. So when you loose your cars keys, just Google it!

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    1. Re:Pretty soon ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      http://farm1.static.flickr.com/108/261905722_d2912c0465.jpg It's already been done!

    2. Re:Pretty soon ... by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm not sure you thought your cunning plan all the way through.

      Me: Honey, where did I put my car keys?
      Her: I don't know dear, just fucking google it.
      Me: OK, according to Google they are on the keyhook next to the door... WTF? They aren't there!
      Her: Oh, that's right, dear, the Googol Housecrawling Spiders of Doom haven't been through since last Tuesday. That's where they were then.

      Me: Fucking useless GoogleHouse app. At least they helpfully recorded the combination when I unlocked my safe.

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    3. Re:Pretty soon ... by drunkenoafoffofb3ta · · Score: 2, Funny

      My brother photoshopped that concept: http://www.b3ta.com/board/5779869

    4. Re:Pretty soon ... by noidentity · · Score: 4, Funny

      So when you loose your cars keys, just Google it!

      Wouldn't tightening them be more appropriate?

    5. Re:Pretty soon ... by noidentity · · Score: 4, Funny

      Me: OK, according to Google they are on the keyhook next to the door... WTF? They aren't there!
      Her: Oh, that's right, dear, the Googol Housecrawling Spiders of Doom haven't been through since last Tuesday. That's where they were then.
      Me: Fucking useless GoogleHouse app.[...]

      There's always Google's cached copy of them...

    6. Re:Pretty soon ... by fava · · Score: 4, Funny

      Considering the scale bars at the bottom are set to 200 miles, then I would say its a pretty big flat.

      There would be no problem seeing it from orbit, the coffee table is 100 miles by 200 miles just by itself, and the rug is a massive 700 miles square.

      Your brother must be rich to afford a flat that big!

    7. Re:Pretty soon ... by Clovis42 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Shortly after I showed Google Earth to my Mom, she came to me with a question. A friend of hers wanted to know if I could get photos of someone who broke into her house. That's right; satellite images of a specific time (at night!) that were good enough that you could actually identify the people in them, on google, for free. Now, maybe the CIA can do this....

      I remember being amazed at what was offered on Google Earth when it first came out. It is always surprising when someone else thinks that a technology can do something that is insanely more complicated than what I was amazed by.

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    8. Re:Pretty soon ... by vishbar · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, he meant "loose". He uses live wolves to start his car.

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    9. Re:Pretty soon ... by pjt33 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, but I draw the line at stealing policemen's helmets.

    10. Re:Pretty soon ... by Red+Flayer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I remember being amazed at what was offered on Google Earth when it first came out. It is always surprising when someone else thinks that a technology can do something that is insanely more complicated than what I was amazed by.

      Isn't this a problem we all often encounter at work? Those who do not understand the technology or process do not understand the limits of the technology or the process.

      I've a coworker, a "well-seasoned" gentleman, who does not understand internal combustion engines, nor basic chemistry. He insists that it must be possible for them to run on water, and that the oil companies have bought up all the patents from the people who have invented cars that run on water. I tried to explain the nature of endothermic reactions to him (in non-chemistry speak, of course), but he could not be budged.

      Or when S&M promises features to a client that can't possibly be delivered on top of the existing project architecture...

      I think it's great though, that your Mom's friend thought Google Earth would be able to do that. It makes it easier to convince the stupid users that the BOFH can ruin their life, quite easily. Let them all believe that we have tools at our fingertips to spy on their every move.

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  5. Little cameras grow... by MikeOtl67of · · Score: 2, Funny

    I wonder if I should not make a space for a camera on my child's helmet... Any offer?

  6. google + scuba = ? by skathe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    gooba? scoogle? scooble?

    just attach cameras to aquatic lifeforms and let us swim the depths of the oceans from our computers... no chance of being stabbed in the heart by a stingray, either!

    1. Re:google + scuba = ? by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Funny

      SCUGA.

      Self-contained underwater Google app.

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    2. Re:google + scuba = ? by geobeck · · Score: 4, Funny

      just attach cameras to aquatic lifeforms and let us swim the depths of the oceans from our computers...

      Oh great. Sharks with frickin' Google cams.

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    3. Re:google + scuba = ? by curtix7 · · Score: 2, Funny

      and helium

  7. LIDAR? by CraftyJack · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It looks like the mast has 3 lidar eyes on it. How does StreetView use lidar?

    1. Re:LIDAR? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      By attaching it to their masts.

    2. Re:LIDAR? by Yokaze · · Score: 2, Interesting

      First of, that are likely four LIDARs. Two horizontal (forward-backward), two vertical (left-right).
      My semi-educated guess:
      - Horizontal: Kind of SLAM: Creating a map and improving the own position accuracy (as initially determined by GPS) through a map.
      - Vertical: 3D surface-reconstruction.

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  8. This is all well and good... by starglider29a · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...until SKYNET uses this data to track us to our hiding places in the woods!!!

    1. Re:This is all well and good... by rodrigoandrade · · Score: 3, Funny

      Then we hide in Vault 101.

  9. I can just imagine by KingPin27 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    With as much animosity as google street views has already been met with
    http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/02/1731231
    http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/13/0055234
    I can just imagine what these guys riding around on bikes will meet up with - Can anyone say moving target?

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    1. Re:I can just imagine by pjt33 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I imagine they'll have plenty of evidence to help the police identify their assailants.

    2. Re:I can just imagine by geobeck · · Score: 2, Funny

      They see me roll on
      My Google Trike
      And I know in my heart
      They think I'm ridin' nerdy

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    3. Re:I can just imagine by rossifer · · Score: 4, Funny

      I have a potato cannon that's accurate enough from 50-100 yards away but also works like a mortar launcher that we can peg a bush roughly 5 acres away (about 250 yards).

      5 acres away? If you planted those 250 yards with zucchini, how many neighbors could you bother over the next furlong?

      (Yeah, yeah, so I'm not all that great with jokes about improperly used units.)

    4. Re:I can just imagine by rhyder128k · · Score: 2, Funny

      I once heard about a guy who could do the Kessle run in 12 parsecs.

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  10. Just saw one of these.... by One+Louder · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was a Seaworld in San Diego a few weeks back and one of these was driving around the various pathways taking shots for Street View. Haven't seen the data go live yet, though.

  11. Forget street view, how about decent maps by randomchicagomac · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a bicyclist, I'd love it if google had decent maps of off-street bike paths, such that I could use google maps' normal direction-finding feature with these. I've lived in lots of cities with numerous such paths, and they're usually out of the way and hard to find if you don't already know that they're there. It would be great to have a feature that a) lets me find them, and b) tells me exactly how far out of my way I'd need to go for the added safety/pleasantness of using them.

    1. Re:Forget street view, how about decent maps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      It would be great to have a feature that a) lets me find them, and b) tells me exactly how far out of my way I'd need to go for the added safety/pleasantness of using them.

      And hookers.

    2. Re:Forget street view, how about decent maps by julian67 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unfortunately the Google trike is far to wide to access many UK cycle paths. Many have a small barrier which allows bicycles (though forces rider to dismount) but prevents small vehicles and tricycles and any but the smallest motorcycles from passing. Also many cycle paths are in any case so ridiculously narrow that a substantial trike has no chance. Urban paths often share traffic light controlled crossings with footpaths and these again are often too narrow for a trike. Then there are the cycle paths which repeatedly alternate the rider from the road to the sidewalk, what to speak of the paths hosting street signs, trees, litter bins etc etc. Even on a normally loaded touring cycle, or a bike with a small trailer or child carrier some UK cycle paths are a problem. A trike is going to be hopeless. Whatever the purpose of the Google trike in the UK it clearly isn't going to work well for footpaths (illegal) or cycle paths. And most white roads, green lanes, unmetalled roads etc are essentially muddy, rocky or overgrown trails requiring an unencumbered mountain bike with a fit, skilled rider, or a vehicle. My guess is that it will give Google access to the many urban streets which only allow taxis, public buses, emergency vehicles, and bicycles during the day. This is extremely common.

    3. Re:Forget street view, how about decent maps by xaxa · · Score: 2, Informative

      My guess is that it will give Google access to the many urban streets which only allow taxis, public buses, emergency vehicles, and bicycles during the day. This is extremely common.

      I think you're correct there. For instance, most of Oxford Street (London) isn't on Streetview because it's buses/taxis/cycles only.
      They can also do public squares, pedestrian/cycling-only streets etc. They can even do no-cycling areas if they wheel the tricycle.

    4. Re:Forget street view, how about decent maps by saintlupus · · Score: 2, Funny

      You actually got stopped by the Sheriff of Nottingham? That's awesome.

    5. Re:Forget street view, how about decent maps by dr-suess-fan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Be sure to check out Openstreetmap.org. It is basically a collaborative mapping project where you can upload your own features in a patent unencumbered manner.

      I've been mapping a lot of my local bike and wooded paths in my area using GPS.

      Your area may already have this information.

    6. Re:Forget street view, how about decent maps by Phroggy · · Score: 2, Funny

      And Blackjack!

      In fact, forget the bike paths! And the Blackjack.

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  12. There's a few businesses and the like... by wowbagger · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually, extending StreetView to things off the street makes sense to me, for certain values of "things off the street" - there's a few businesses and the like I'd like to see mapped.

    Example: I'd like to see my local zoo or one of our local museums set up so that I could use my GPS to find my way around - and being able to see some of the exhibits would be a bonus.

    If *I* ran those places, I'd be begging Google to scan my site!

    1. Re:There's a few businesses and the like... by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I always get lost walking the many trails at the local nudist colony -- do you think Google could come out and map these for me?

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    2. Re:There's a few businesses and the like... by sumdumass · · Score: 3, Funny

      They have but the problem was the naming. "Google pervert" just wasn't marketable so they scrapped the entire project.

  13. An April Fools Day joke in May? by BiloxiGeek · · Score: 3, Funny

    History has shown that the human leg is an often untapped behemoth of energy, having in the past powered generators, submarines and, of course, deep space hair dryers aboard Red Dwarf.

    Next thing you know they'll be reporting that Lister has been hired to peddle the thing around London. They tried to hire Cat but he was afraid being outside in the summer heat and humidity would ruin his fantastically perfect hairdo.

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  14. Mapjack.com already does this by lullabud · · Score: 4, Informative

    Regardless of whether Google is going to use Tricycles, they're not the first to market with this feature. http://www.mapjack.com/ already has many many trails mapped out, things that bicycles may even have a hard time on.

  15. Google Bike Path, Foot Trail, and River would be.. by PinchDuck · · Score: 3, Funny

    awesome. To the best of my knowledge, GPS's will show rivers, but if you are paddling on one, it won't give you a great ETA. Google Rivers, on the other hand, could record average current speed and all the bends in the river to a genuine geocoded object instead of a dumb jpeg. That would be pretty sweet.

  16. History lesson by Smivs · · Score: 5, Funny

    Did the UK annex Rome?

    No, it was the other way round. Rome invaded Britain in 43AD. I think they've mostly gone home now.

    1. Re:History lesson by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, but what have the Romans ever done for us?

    2. Re:History lesson by beav007 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ladies and gentlemen - thank you for flying Air Slashdot! The joke is now approaching its cruising altitude of 3 feet above your head...

  17. Profit!!! by johnlcallaway · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just add some bells and a freezer and it can further add to Google revenue!!!

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  18. Re:Rights Do Not Scale Up by horigath · · Score: 2, Informative

    I don't want my house, garden, neighborhood and face plastered all over the web for everyone to gawk at. You don't want it. Nobody wants it.

    I kinda want it.

  19. Re:Rights Do Not Scale Up by Drakin020 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The bigger you are, the less rights you should be entitled to.

    I'm sorry...What!?

    That has to be the most retarded comment I've ever heard. No one should be limited to rights just because of how "Big" they are.

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  20. Re:Segway by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why they didn't buy a bunch of Segways for it, is beyond me.

    Trikes are cheaper to buy than Segways which start at $2,400.

    Trikes are cheaper to maintain than Segways.

    Trikes are easier to maintain than Segways since all you need is a regular bike mechanic that can be found in any good bike store.

    Segways require electrical power just to stand up, that kind of power costs money. Trikes don't use any power when standing up because they've got three wheels.

    Segways require electrical power to operate, trikes don't and hence have a lower carbon footprint.

    Segways have to be charged up, trikes don't.

    Trikes are more efficient.

    Trikes do pretty much the same job for a lot less money.

    There's no enough room on a Segway to hold the equipment, there is enough room on a trike.

    Riding a trike is a lot healthier than driving a Segway because it uses human power.

    Want any more?

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  21. Google - OK! Gov't = Big Brother by HockeyPuck · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why is it ok in the public eye for google to do this, but when the gov't does this it's BigBrother and 1984 all over again?

    1. Re:Google - OK! Gov't = Big Brother by Murpster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not OK in my opinion. Google is turning pretty Big Brothery with shit like this and the cell phone location thing and other stupidness. If I ever see one of these or their cars, I'll make sure they don't get any images they can use haha. Screw Google. Time for them to go the way of Enron.

    2. Re:Google - OK! Gov't = Big Brother by smellsofbikes · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Presumably coz Google doesn't have tens of thousands of armed employees legally empowered to kill.

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  22. Re:Rights Do Not Scale Up by evanbd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think rights should scale up. I really don't see a problem with that.

    Oh, I see, you seem to have drunk the kool-aid and accepted that corporations are people who have rights. That's where the fault lies in all your examples, not with any inductive scaling.

    All that said... in this particular example, I do want my house on Google. Or, to be specific, I want other people's houses on Google -- many times I've made use of the Street View pictures to see what my destination will look like. And I can see other people wanting the same when I give them directions to my house. And I don't mind the pictures being up, and I certainly don't intend to take up a hypocritical position on the matter.

  23. Re:Segway by Nerdposeur · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Segways are always tilting forward and back. Bicycles are always tilting side to side. Trikes stay pretty level. That probably makes it easier to stitch together all the photos.

  24. The path less googled by Kaz+Riprock · · Score: 3, Funny

    I shall be twittering this with a sigh
    On someone's blogs and blogs hence:
    Two paths diverged in a wood, and I--
    I took the one less googled by,
    And that has made all the difference.

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  25. Re:Rights Do Not Scale Up by vux984 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That has to be the most retarded comment I've ever heard. No one should be limited to rights just because of how "Big" they are.

    So what you are saying is that a monopoly shouldn't be regulated?
    Maybe you should rethink your position.

    The poster is asserting that what should be in-alienable rights for an individual at the individual level do not implicitly work at massive scales. The meaning of those rights transform as they scale up.

    I should be allowed to exhale carbon dioxide; nobody would ever dispute this. But it doesn't scale up. It doesn't implicitly give me blanket protection of a right to pump as much carbon dioxide into the atmosphere as I can manufacture.

    Similiarly, with respect to google, we absolutely should be allowed to take pictures of something we see while out and about. That shouldn't scale up to a right to deploy a world wide surveillance network.

    I fully agree with him.

  26. Re:It's not legs, it's people! by eln · · Score: 2, Informative

    One could even argue that not designing the project to allow disabled individuals to perform the work is job discrimination.

    I suppose one could, but one would be wrong. The job description is for someone to pedal this bike around so it can take pictures. Therefore, being able to pedal said bike is a Bona Fide Occupational Qualification (BFOQ). Your idea is interesting, but failing to implement it is not discriminatory on Google's part, at least not in any legally recognized way.

  27. Re:Where no tricycle can go... by AigariusDebian · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here is an example of a typical countryside UK footpath. I would defy one to navigate it on a tricycle: http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk/footpathexample.html

    or this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mapmakermike/1029015477/

  28. oh I was wondering by alatheia · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was wondering why a guy on a tricycle was going around my living room and then taking a dump and then took off. Must be the google houseview or google johnview project in progress.

  29. Re:Rights Do Not Scale Up by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have a camera in my car at all times and I use it when I see something interesting, illegal or embarassing. That's legal. It's a public street. And the image isn't going to be stale either. So what's the difference?

    The scale. The scale is the difference. Your post is exactly the kind of argument that I object to.

    What you say is correct. It is legal for you to take a picture of my house, and many other house. It is legal for you post those pictures online. It is true that everyone else can legally do so to do so. Moreover, it is right and proper that it should be legal for them to do so.

    But your reasoning is false. It is not right for Google to create something as grand and encompassing as Street View. You cannot inductively step from individuals snapping the odd photograph to a multinational corporation creating a comprehensive, unprecedented, worldwide, image database which is totally unaccountable to everyone it affects.

    The laws of society are not a mathematical framework. The base case of one, or a few individuals doing this for a few house is fine. But the inductive step is flawed. This step assumes that if what your are doing is legal/fine/moral for k houses, then it must be legal/fine/moral for k+1 houses. It's only one extra house after all. This reasoning is inherently flawed, based as it is on a black and white, binary view of legality and rights.

    The whole can be more than the sum of the parts. Sometimes, even if every single part of the whole is just and correct, the whole of the whole can be rotten to its core. It is not right for Google to do what it is doing, particularly in the way that it is doing it. Unilaterally, and without consultation or consent.

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  30. Re:Segway by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 2, Informative

    Maybe if they built a large wooden badger...