Google Labs Offers Table-Based Search Results
blackbearnh writes "Google just released Google Squared into the Google Labs playground. Google Squared lets you get results back in row and column format, and then add more columns to the result set. There's a brief tour of the features over on O'Reilly Radar, where the judgement is that there's lots of rough edges, but a huge amount of potential, especially for quick and dirty table generation for reports."
http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=bible+books Who knew Esther was a babe?
This actually seems to be a pretty simple concept. It takes the keywords on the y axis (which is the initial search), and then generates popular keywords for the x axis, and then does searches for the combinations to fill in the boxes. What goes in the box is the least amount of the target page that more-or-less fulfills the keyword search. So as near as I can tell, there's no "semantic" analysis here, it's basically a bunch of mini web searches in a grid format. It's an interesting concept, but I don't see it as any sort of world changing function, like the hype seemed to imply.
Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
It doesn't take an Einstein to find out that this is good for researching things. It certainly beats going through all of the connecting websites to get to the juicy details.
There are no perfect answers, only the right questions. More questions at http://foresightandhindsight.blogspot.com/
My first thoughts after trying a few of the example searches on the main page are that it seems to be aimed a bit at Wolfram Alpha. It isn't as broad as Wolfram Alpha but it is focused on giving back data sets instead of a list of search results.
And just when you thought table-based design was gone! :)
I find the idea interesting, but not very practical. It seems to work well for brain storming. With just a few keywords, you get a lot of results that can shed a fresh light on what you were thinking about. Well worth a try.
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In fifteen seconds of playing around with it, I already feel like I'm able to get better data and have better control than I do with Wolfram Alpha.
Wolfram Alpha may not be a direct competitor for Google, yet, this is their response.
Yes, I know, Wolfram takes info from reduced and trusted sources while Google does not. But the semantic database that they are building have the same structure.
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http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=search+engines
Random fun:
http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=large+noses
http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=lolcat+pictures
Reply if you find other amusing queries!
it sure provides a ton of information from wikipedia. i wonder what % of wikipedia articles form google's results these days.
Where's the option to save it to my hard drive as a spreadsheet?
The default result sets are more than useless - are laughable.
I searched for europe demographics and it automatically created a set of rows that was made of Gibraltar, Isle of Man and Faroe Islands; for columns it created Image, Description, Language, Capital and Currency. The same search on Wolfram Alpha produced clear, concise results.
Eventually, I could get good results on Squared too by starting with an empty square and adding rows and columns myself. Took about 10 minutes; I could have made a simple search to get the same results.
I realize Google-bashing is dangerous around here, but they definitely have to improve Squared if they want it to be useful.
I get better information from a normal search. This query set is very limited (for now at least). You can only give it a broad set topic and it will only give you back more specific subsets. Nothing related, similar or tangential. Do a search for "javascript" and you get 2 results - the international standard and a link to Mozilla. Nothing about any of the popular libraries, help sites, documentation, blogs, books or history...
Do a search on Dog breeds however and you get a nice list of those as they are a discrete subset of the query term.
A fool throws a stone into a well and a thousand sages can not remove it.
So I squared Microsoft and lol'd ... :)
http://www.svenarduwie.be/Microsoft%20Google%20Squared.png
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http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=monkeys
I never knew!
There are no perfect answers, only the right questions. More questions at http://foresightandhindsight.blogspot.com/
But when I asked for http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=supermodels I couldn't help but notice it was missing a few key columns.
HOLY CRAP! This post started out as a joke but then I then typed 'measurements' into the 'Add columns' box and it effing worked! Then click in the 'Add items' in the lower left, add the 5 suggestions, do that a few more times, and BAM, you've got a good amount of data. Holy crap, this is neat. There goes the rest of my day. I could see using this for actual work, like bridge lengths and building heights and such.
And it's FUN! Data appears instantly, as if by magic, complete with pictures. I've never said this in my 10+ years on Slashdot, but everyone, GO RTFA! Actually, skip TFA, just go visit the site!
Dear Slashdot: next time you want to mess with the site, add a rich-text editor for comments.
So I search on "space physics virtual observatory" ... and it prompts me to give 5 examples so I do (VSO, VMO, VHO, ViTMO, ViRBO) ... and well, it populated a grid with the top result for "VSO" which is "VSO Software" not "The Virtual Solar Observatory" (in all fairness, the Virtual Solar Observatory doesn't show up under the search, "Space Physics Virtual Observatory VSO", but it does show up under "Virtual Observatory VSO" ... so I start with the search "Virtual Observatory" (which brings up astronomy VOs, not space physics VOs) and add "VSO" ... and it still gives me "VSO Software".
So ... it might be useful for some fields, but not all.
(it _was_ able to tell me the countries of the nighttime VOs, though, which is handy ... although all of the items in the list weren't VOs.)
Build it, and they will come^Hplain.
I've tried several searches and found that all searches are completely false, misleading or screwed up.
Example 1: Dutch provinces. Wolfram accurately lists 12 and has the right names. Google lists dozens results, including Belgium rivers, shows the picture of a soccer player (with the same name as a
Example 2: Dutch prime ministers. Wolfram shows the current one correctly and some older ones. All the info Wolfram shows is correct. Google lists many. Mostly the names are correct, but there is a picture and description of a car salesman with the same name, among others.
Example 3: Countries in the EU. Wolfram shows 27 correct names. Google shows lots and lots of names. On the first pages it is ok, but on page threee, Sports is listed as an country (with the capital listed as $9500 ??) as well as Switzerland (not a EU-member) and English.
So the tables are completely useless, it also sources Wikipedia almost all the time.
Ergo: do not use it. Not yet in any case.
I clicked the link on the front of the page for "US Presidents." http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=US presidents&suggest=1 for the lazy. Under full name for George Washington, it lists Mr. George Carver. You'd think for something 1) so common and 2) that they promote on the front of their main site should have 100% accurate and vetted information and not tell us that George Washington Carver, despite his wonderful accomplishments, was the first president of these United States.
We've been playing with returning tables for structured data in the datalab project, e.g.: http://www.renci.org/~nassar/datalab/rplot.html Of course, data in tables is a well proven concept :-)
This Google thing will never catch on...
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I wonder how they are ordering their table results. If I put in "star trek characters" for instance, I do indeed get a first set of ten that are all from ST.
#1 is Spock (the Zachary Quinto version, but OK good)
Kirk however is #6 after Riker, Troi, Picard, and Neelix.
Neelix? c'mon google, that's a fail.
Revenue: Question mark
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Based on playing with the site for a few minutes and reading through posts so far it seems like perception of this feature depends on what you are searching for and how you enter the search terms. Perception of this feature also seems to be dependent upon the user's pre-judgment of Google vs. Wolfram Alpha, but that's probably best left for another discussion. Of course Google will produce some strange and/or invalid results for the search terms since it is searching then entire internet whereas Alpha is only searching a small subset of sites that it has deemed worthy.
Unfortunately, this facility does not interoperate with w3m. All you can see is a "preparing" progress-bar thingy.
But it seems very confused about what it is: http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=wikipedia
for me ... it said "Heartless"
I see the promise but would rather that my user-entered values be accessible like the GoogleSearchWiki. This could be described as a "curated table". (Much more useful than the utterly random data given - when I search for Fruit, I want to see a picture of an apple, not an Apple.) Obviously I'm taking half the pages from Wikipedia's book and throwing them at Google, but the idea's there I think.
Note: I was 13 when I wrote most of this. Take with several grains of salt.
Looks like all the other "progress" bars frozen on mid-load.
Have tried multiple unique and linked searches and the "Building a Square for..."
bar fills 90% and stops every time... didn't think Big G was susceptible to the Slashdot Effect.
Meh, back to the timeline for me.
Imagination drew in bold strokes, instantly serving hopes and fears, while knowledge advanced by slow increments...
Is Wolfram Alpha always this slow or has it been slashdotted?
Enter search engine as a term for Google Squared, then add a column titled URL. You will see funny results :)
Hmm, a bit clunky now, but I would imagine it could be WTFBBQ for scientific literature searches. Scifinder makes babies cry.
http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=finite+abelian+group#
http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=differentiation+rules
http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=power+series
http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=differential+geometry
http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=slashdot
http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=pornstars
http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=c+compiler
http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=probability+distribution
http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=cancer
http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=spielberg+films
http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=Gross+domestic+product+countries
No semantic searches. Less accuracy than Wolfram. Lame. ;)
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Looks like they're trying to take on Clusty.
Yes, who would have know that among the java data types, short is an Aries and double is a Capricorn:) Explains a lot really.
Seriously though, it does a good job on populating the Name and Description columns. After that, not so much.
Better results from a typo (european)
http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=europian+demographics
http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=european+demographics (Nice photo Monaco)
http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=google+squared
Oh well!
"We live in a global world" - Harvey Pitt, former Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman
Noodle Squares uses a combination of human intelligence and automation to generate better results. Compare:
Search engines
http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=search+engines
http://noodlesquares.com/SearchEngines.html
Cameras
http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=cameras
http://noodlesquares.com/Cameras.html
[disclaimer: associated with noodlesquares]
Go to: http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=nissan
Can we have the width in the unit system please? I have inches and millimeters all mixed up. It would be awesome if I can choose the unit. Measuring a car width in millimeters is not very practical from a user perspective.
Where is the ability to sort the records by columns? I mean duh?!?
"planets" gives you the results you might expect, but not nine or even eight rows. "english queens" leads off with Edward VII. Poor Edward, I did not truly know ye. On a related note, the above query failed to include Queen Victoria, although I see at the time of posting she now appears in the drop down box. Related queries got Victoria confused with the current Crown Princess of Sweden and Victoria's Secret. A surprisingly complete result is "stargate atlantis characters". I think the way to use this is to not consider the initial result definitive, but as a starting point that can be refined.
If done (and used) right, this could be a quantum leap (yes, I work for Intel) in Internet search for semi-structured information search. However, my first search: 7 wonders, gave only partially satisfactory results. Stonehenge 120 yards tall? The Empire State building and Panama channel? Well, it's rightly beta, so I shouldn't complain.
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Kinda of like Wolfram Alpha except:
1) less accurate.
2) actually usable.
Makes me think I'll be using this.
I asked Google Squared for a list of dead people. One of the first to appear was 'God,' whose date of death was apparently September 2006.
And I've been looking around for LAME (the not-the-mp3-encoder) stuff for the past 30 minutes. I've never heard of Google Squared before, so I thought I'd test it out with lame:
http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=lame
Apparently google doesn't like bond movies ... Or it knows where I can dl mp3s of the soundtracks ... I'm not actually sure.
Then I decided to RTFM, and use a different string, and it was actually pretty cool:
http://www.google.com/squared/search?q=lame+front+ends
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I looked at the list of suggested additional columns and chose "Died". Now I know that Linux died as "A modem hung up the phone". Various BSDs seem to still be going strong, though.
On a more serious note, the concept is quite neat (and as noted, not entirely unlike the comparisons provided by WolframAlpha). However, the quality of the results has to improve a lot before I'll use this for anything else than amusing myself.
Everyone who makes generalizations should be shot.