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Apple's WWDC Unveils iPhone 3.0, OpenCL, Laptop Updates, and More

Lots of big news from WWDC today including updates to almost all of Apple's laptops. They added a 13-inch version to the MacBook Pro line, updated the MacBook Air, and added a few new ports to some of the machines including an SD slot and firewire 800 port. Software updates saw Safari 4 launched, OS X updates including threading changes, Exchange support to mail, calendar, and address book, and OpenCL a new open graphics standard. The iPhone got quite a bit of love in 3.0, much of it just confirming older news. Cut, copy, and paste, shake to undo, developer APIs, Cocoa Touch support for text, landscape mode updates, spotlight, and MMS all made the bullet list. You will now also be able to rent and purchase movies directly from your iPhone. Other new features in 3.0 include the much debated tethering ability, allowing you to use your iPhone as a cellular modem (unfortunately there was no mention of AT&T actually supporting this feature, a wonder there wasn't a riot), integrated TomTom GPS navigation, and game features galore. New functionality also allows you to locate your iPhone via MobileMe, play a sound to help you locate it (regardless if it is set to silent), and even wipe your data remotely. The New iPhone hardware updates, "3GS", adds a 3 megapixel auto-focus camera, voice interfaces, twice the processing power, and hardware encryption. The 3GS comes in 16GB ($199) and 32GB ($299), pushing the 3G (which they are keeping on the market) to $99. Lots of other small updates amidst the bustle, looks like another successful WWDC.

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  1. The GS stands for... by craenor · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Get Some" which Apple execs were rumored to have yelled at rival Palm execs while squeezing their junk.

    1. Re:The GS stands for... by iluvcapra · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm gonna buy one and put it next to my Apple II GS. :)

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  2. Macbook pro by aereinha · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Gained sd card reader...lost the express card slot. I want the express card slot back.

    1. Re:Macbook pro by CrackedButter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah that sucks, what the hell is wrong with Apple, why not keep the two of them as options. Now the only expansion comes from a single FW800 port. This is where Windows laptops do it better, they give you the card reading slots, and the Express slot. Apple did the right thing with the 13" but went backwards with the 15", not even bothering to update the 17" with them both, where its size would have allowed it! A CF reader would have been better for the Pro shooters. I'd rather have this than the inclusive price drop.

      But at least we know its an Apple SD card reader so it must be better! I wonder if it can read the other 3 card formats that are the same size like windows laptops, seriously sucks hard if it is just SD. Why bother.

    2. Re:Macbook pro by Fred_A · · Score: 5, Funny

      But at least we know its an Apple SD card reader so it must be better!

      Of course it is. It ejects the cards by itself with a cute little motor and a soothing chime. Not like those primitive SD readers you find on PC clones.
      Also it goes to 11.

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    3. Re:Macbook pro by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're telling me that an SD slot can fit on my cell phone, but not on my MacBook? That the MacBook is just so chock-full of goodness that adding an SD slot would just be "too much"?

      Who are you shitting?

      It looks to me like someone at Apple thought they could coast for another few quarters, and then there was a little bit of excitement over the Pre and suddenly Apple is trying to make it look like they're really doing something.

      If Apple wants to do something exciting, let them come out with a full-size, expandable computer that doesn't start at $5k. Better yet, let them finally catch up with the other OS manufacturers and release an OS that can be used on a machine besides the ones that Apple sells.

      Now that would be exciting.

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    4. Re:Macbook pro by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

      nothing you can do about Cheap Chinese Chop selling the crappiest crap ever

      Lacist!

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  3. Front Camera by Bicx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Come on. Not just for video chat, but for ordinary photos. For those of you who have ever tried to take a picture of yourself with friends using an iPhone, you know my pain.

    1. Re:Front Camera by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 3, Funny

      Comrade, we need your documents detailing when was the last time your RDF passed inspection.

      No Phone In The Universe. EVER.

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    2. Re:Front Camera by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 3, Informative

      no phone in the history of the universe has had a front facing video camera

      Except almost every other freaking 3G phone ever made.

    3. Re:Front Camera by pohl · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I personally think that such a feature sounds great at first, but people will quickly become disenchanted with it. First and foremost, because where you hold a phone to view the screen will give you a particularly unflattering angle of yourself: up your nose. Even relatively fit people are going to look like they have a double-chin when they're looking down at their phone. Ever notice all the myspace kiddies that take pics of themselves from a high angle? People say they want video chat on a phone, but I say "be careful what you ask for; you might get it".

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    4. Re:Front Camera by jandrese · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Nokia N79 would like to have a word with you.

      Most carriers don't want front facing cameras because then people will start asking for video conferencing and that goes against the philosophy of "If the customer buys a data plan, it must be as hard to use and crappy as possible to drive them back to the insanely profitable SMS and MMS instead". Video Conferencing doesn't qualify, it uses way too many bits unless you really work hard to make it near unusable.

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    5. Re:Front Camera by Stevecrox · · Score: 3, Informative

      Most 3G phones have front facing camera's. When 3 (a UK Mobile phone company) first started all of their LG and Motorolla phones had front facing VGA cameras so you could make video calls, interestingly the first 3G Nokia they sold didn't support video calling. Some Nokia Offeringswith a front facing camer
      Nokia N Series
      Nokia 5800, two cameras on this baby
      The Sept 2006 released Nokia N95 which has two cameras and a tilt sensor
      The 2006 E63

      Sony Ericsson
      The 2006 P990
      2006 Sony Ericsson with a full VGA Camera on the front
      CyberShot phone!

      Motorola
      The Razor

      Your right obiviously no one has put a video camera in the front of a phone along with one in the back so users can take decent phones with one and make video calls with the other. Thats crazyness! My nokia 5800 will let me choose which camera (back or front) to use to take video/photos and which camera to use for calling, its certainly a new innovative feature.

  4. Bashing Competitors by Bicx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Has Apple been this abrasive to their competitors during the keynotes before? It was a little tacky IMO

    1. Re:Bashing Competitors by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Apple lives on cockiness and fanboy hive-mind reality isolation. Did you expect any different?

    2. Re:Bashing Competitors by Fred_A · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Seriously, I've only made it a quarter of the way through this thing and I've already come to the conclusion that they could have held this conference with no new product/feature announcements and it still would have been a huge success as long as they bashed Microsoft and Windows 7 for most of it.

      Apple is hip, and its hip to hate PC!

      The only Jobs presentation I've been to was for the unveiling of the NeXT and it already was like that (adjust for Windows/DOS versions).
      Since then I've never managed to look at one of those things in whole. It just looks too much like a cultist rally or something.

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  5. yeh, too bad... by inerlogic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    they're still married to AT&T....

    1. Re:yeh, too bad... by Darkness404 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not only that but it seemed like "Oh we are releasing a new feature! (not on AT&T)". I mean, just look at it MMS is going to be on every phone (but not AT&T that will be later in the summer) You also get tethering that really works (not on AT&T), etc.

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    2. Re:yeh, too bad... by caerwyn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I can't really believe that Apple is any happier about that situation than its customers are. I'm wondering if we're seeing the beginning of the end of that exclusivity.

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    3. Re:yeh, too bad... by MBCook · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I liked how AT&T got booed twice. Once for no tethering, once for no MMS until July (or whatever).

      I love my iPhone, but it's amazing that after basically saving AT&T from irrelevance, they still don't get it. How hard could it POSSIBLY BE to have MMS support available on day 1? Only every other phone on their network supports it.

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    4. Re:yeh, too bad... by caerwyn · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Before the original iPhone launched, the other carriers wouldn't make the investment for things like Visual Voicemail; only AT&T and only with exclusivity.

      Now, of course, it's an entirely different story- I'm willing to be that Sprint and Verizon would jump through hoops to get at the iPhone, and I can only imagine the AT&T stock drop the moment the end of exclusivity is announced.

      I'm also betting that Verizon has been kicking itself for the past few years...

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    5. Re:yeh, too bad... by Globe199 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Probably because AT&T offered the most money! It's all about money. Apple and AT&T are in business to MAKE MONEY. Private companies want to MAKE MONEY. Every decision they consider and every project they undertake is designed to MAKE MONEY.

      Sorry, I'm not picking on you. Just irritated -- people stamp their feet when companies do things they don't like, forgetting of course that these companies are in business to MAKE BLOODY MONEY.

      Why do you think Apple is so against replaceable batteries in their phones? Why don't they allow storage cards? It's about MONEY.

  6. OpenCL != OpenGL by adam.dorsey · · Score: 5, Informative

    FTA: and OpenCL a new open graphics standard

    Not quite.
    ...a framework for writing programs that execute across heterogeneous platforms consisting of CPUs, GPUs, and other processors.

    OpenCL is like CUDA, but supposed to be more open along the lines of OpenGL, hence the name. The same guys who manage OpenGL (Khronos) manage OpenCL as well. You could probably use it to do graphics, but that would be stupid.

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  7. OS X updates by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 5, Informative

    Software updates saw Safari 4 launched, OS X updates including threading changes, Exchange support to mail, calendar, and address book, and OpenCL a new open graphics standard.

    To be clear, the updates to OS X referred to are features of OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) which will ship in September and cost $29. It is not an update to 10.5 and is not yet available outside of developer previews.

    1. Re:OS X updates by hattig · · Score: 5, Insightful

      $29 isn't a bad price.

      2007 : Vista and Mac OS X Leopard launch. Vista users talk about the high ongoing cost of Mac OS X upgrades because they occur every 18 months. Mac users say the trend is for longer gaps between OS launches, and that XP->Vista was uncharacteristically long.

      30 months later: Windows 7 and Snow Leopard launch at roughly the same time. Snow Leopard costs $29 to upgrade ($129 new). Windows 7 Home Premium: $260 (rumoured). Linux: Still free.

  8. Security on auto-locate feature? by Turken · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I hope there's good security on the auto-locate feature. Aside from the obvious "prank" of remotely wiping someone's iphone, I can also see this being abused for such things as spying on people's locations, or perhaps less invasive but more annoying... a "loved one" forcing your phone to ring when you already set it to silent for a meeting or movie.

  9. Shake it by jargoone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Am I the only one who hates the shake interface for any action at all? Half the time I don't shake it hard enough, so I have to do it again. And for something like undo, it takes your eyes off what you're trying to do... or undo. I realize there are limited inputs on a device with few hard buttons, but hope there's an alternate way.

    1. Re:Shake it by bwalling · · Score: 5, Funny

      I guess the Etch a Sketch patent expired, so the shake to undo method is now free to use.

  10. And of course, no non-glossy displays by mousse-man · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can't Apple produce 15" or 13" laptops without that damn glossy display? These mirrors mounted on laptops get really annoying, and I'm not the only one who thinks that non-glossy displays are superior to their allegedly cheaper glossy displays.

    One more guy who's looking for a used MBP on ebay.

    1. Re:And of course, no non-glossy displays by TheNetAvenger · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The point isn't the glossy display, it is the 'cheap' glossy displays that reflect like mirrors.

      There are lots of LCDs on various other brands of laptops with 'glossy' displays that actually filter the light so they don't blind you or act like a mirror.

      The filtered glossy displays cost a few bucks more, but this is Apple, and apparently they don't care about the 'best' hardware anymore.

      This is something we became aware of when our techs bought several glossy laptops back in 2005. The higher end displays, like the 1920x1200 units didn't reflect like the cheaper displays, and the difference of using them in bright light is a massive difference.

      I feel sorry when sitting next to a Mac user at an airport, even when I'm using a Netbook with a filtered glossy screen with no problems and they are having trouble even seeing their screen.

      Sometimes they ask what the trick is, and I have to explain the LCD Gloss finish/cover and Apple uses the cheap crap.

  11. Hardware Encryption by SpottedKuh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Umm, encryption of...what, exactly?

    Are we talking about the flash drive being encrypted? Are we talking about the iPhone finally supporting PGP?

    1. Re:Hardware Encryption by iluvcapra · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I thought they meant the content of the phone. The address book, calendars, media, user data... since they mentioned it in the same breath as the remote wipe, I assume that both features address the same domains.

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  12. iPhone fine print by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Requires new two-year AT&T wireless service contract, sold separately to qualified customers; credit check required; must be 18 or older. For non-qualified customers, including existing AT&T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G, the price with a new two-year agreement is $499 (8GB), $599 (16GB), or $699 (32GB). (from http://www.apple.com/iphone/buy/) Kudos for the new corporate aftertaste and giant spanking to current customers!

  13. Re:Tethering lawsuit? by iluvcapra · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What would be their allegations in such a suit? What agreement has Apple broken? What law has apple violated?

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  14. The Fraud of Tethering by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Other new features in 3.0 include the much debated tethering ability, allowing you to use your iPhone as a cellular modem (unfortunately there was no mention of AT&T actually supporting this feature, a wonder there wasn't a riot)

    Considering that the iPhone itself is really a small form-factor computer with communication abilities built in, the line has already been so blurred between phone and computer that I can't see how that fact that another computer can also access the Internet through the connection is all that different. Especially since you, the customer are paying to have the ability to transfer a given number of bits per month. Why should it even matter -- except to anal companies like AT&T who what to sell you capacity and then prevent you from actually using it -- the eventual destination of those bits? How it tethering even different from storing the downloaded data in an iPhone and transferring it later to another device?

    Answer: It isn't!

    The same for VoIP. It's all just bits being sent and received. Now create a business model that acknowledges this axiom.

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    1. Re:The Fraud of Tethering by AdmiralXyz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How it tethering even different from storing the downloaded data in an iPhone and transferring it later to another device?

      Right or wrong, the answer that AT&T would give is that you're not going to use nearly as much data on an iPhone as you would on a laptop. Yes, they're converging, but we're still quite a ways from the point where people are going to be downloading torrents to watch on their phones, or even using a great deal of bandwidth on everyday internet applications, because phones are short-use devices. I'm not saying I agree with it, but the decision to disallow tethering is a pragmatic one based on the fact that it would almost certainly increase AT&T's network load by a huge margin, considering the number of people who already own iPhones, and people are already complaining about the crappy speeds of their network as it is. You can't have it both ways.

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  15. Re:Lots of brain candy for the geeks, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, it IS a developer's conference.

    Just sayin'.

  16. At $99 the 3G is now relatively mainstream by toppavak · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There's always been a bit of a gap between the $100 (low cost) and the $200 (high cost) smartphones, the Pearl vs the 8820 in blackberry land, for example. With a $99 pricetag the 3G (hardware, at least, the data contract is still damned expensive)is now in line with all of the low-end smartphones currently on the market. With Apple taking a 30% cut on app sales plus a share of the AT&T contract price, it makes sense to push the cost of last generation's hardware down. As much as I and probably a lot of others would love to see a more open platform (Android or Linux, for example) gain ground in the mobile space, this will make it a lot harder to establish a sizable marketshare for the platforms that are more recently emerging into the market.

    Still, Android has a shot to build (and surpass) the app library of the iPhone by moving bottom up in terms of price-point. A large number of low to midrange phones running Android could give the platform the customer base it needs to support a large development community which would in turn help build the platform's maturity eventually leading to advanced smartphones with a large and diverse assortment of apps available. This would be almost the reverse of how the iPhone platform grew: starting out as a premium hardware and service, now working down to cheaper hardware to leverage growing revenue streams from a large app library and contracts from the installed (and growing) base. Philosophically and practically (monoculture is typically a bad thing) I would love to see Android succeed on a large scale in the marketplace but as much as I often disagree with Apple's stylistic choices and UI design I have to give kudos for how well they've executed the iPhone and app store as a business.

  17. Let Those Mod Points Fly Apple Crazies! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Mod the unbeliever straight down to hell!

  18. Re:Lots of brain candy for the geeks, but... by cowscows · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If your biggest problem is that your latest product upgrade isn't as exciting as the initial launch of said product, well that's not such a bad place to be.

    Apple has consistently released new iPods for years, but not every one was a giant step over the last. And people complained that the change wasn't that exciting. But they kept selling truckloads of the little things, and they'll probably keep selling iPhones as well.

    I don't know what sort of huge innovations you were expecting. Apple has spent a lot of effort in creating the iPhone as a platform, served by the app store. They're not going to release something so incredibly different that it fractures that platform "eco-system". They're going to be very careful about releasing hardware that will result in apps that aren't backwards compatible with the phones already out there.

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  19. $100 for 16GB?! by Lord+Byron+II · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ouch, that's a costly upgrade, when the same thing in an SD card is roughly $20.

    1. Re:$100 for 16GB?! by MBCook · · Score: 3, Informative

      Nope. The 8GB version is only a 3G, not a GS. That means it has the old camera, no compass, etc.

      Pretty good deal actually.

      I wonder if they'll kill the $100 version when they run out of stock, or keep it for the market share.

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    2. Re:$100 for 16GB?! by snuf23 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't think SD card comparisons are unfair when you consider just about every phone on the planet besides the iPhone offers SD card expansion.

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  20. Re:No video conferencing then? by sadler121 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Only a 3 megapixel camera? Decent lens? Light source for indoor? 480/320 screen? lame

    Fixed that for you

  21. Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is always something better just over the horizon. If you are a big Jobs devotee then you should have known better than to buy something just before WWDC. That is a MASSIVE NERD FAIL.

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  22. Re:Tethering lawsuit? by cbuskirk · · Score: 3, Informative

    It was removed from the North American App store. In North America the Iphone is exclusive to ATT. ATT does not allow tethering. You will not be able to use the Apple tethering app in North America.

  23. Re:Why an SD slot, I wonder? by WiiVault · · Score: 3, Informative

    CF slots are too bulky for Apple's design. Atleast thats my guess.

  24. HTML 5 is the big deal by WiiVault · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seeing Apple jump on board with HTML 5 and especially the video/audio tags is huge. If Apple is right that they own 65% of mobile browsing; having them stay up to date with standards is huge and ought to set the tone for others.

  25. Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners by whisper_jeff · · Score: 5, Informative

    You're seriously complaining that the tech toy you bought went down in price and was replaced by a newer, better model? Have you never bought a computer before? Some might think I'm being a troll, but seriously, this is nothing new to tech products across the board - tech toy is released, sells, goes down in price and is replaced by better model, rinse and repeat until the model is phased out. Nothing new.

  26. -1 Troll by javacowboy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Excuse me?

    1) Apple spent maybe a minute bashing Windows. Since OS X is a competitor to Windows, this makes sense.
    2) Snow Leopard is not a service pack. It has new features, some of which are revolutionary such as a 64-bit kernel, exchange support, OpenCL, Grand Central and dramatic performance improvements. http://www.apple.com/macosx/
    3) Perhaps they took out the express slot because not enough of their customers wanted it. I have a MacBook Pro and never saw the use for it.
    4) The batteries now have way more battery life, which isn't "worsening" the battery situation in my book. Perhaps you're referring to the fact that the battery is not removable? I don't see that as a major issue. How often does a MacBook Pro user replace their battery?
    5) How did Apple "rip everyone off"? Apple is pricing their notebooks more aggressive *and* improving the hardware.
    6) Vista was badly received and Microsoft built Windows 7 on top of it. That was their point. I can't say whether or not Vista sucks, since I haven't used it that much.
    7) How is Apple "the biggest troll on the planet" for making fun of Microsoft for less than a minute? Other companies do the same things to their competitors.
    8) How does less than a minute of making fun of one of their competitors "turn off the enterprise crowd"? Oh, I forgot. All of your friends must comprise 100% of the "enterprise crowd". Maybe features like Grand Central Station, OpenCL, 64-bitness and Exchange Support, not to mention remote wipe and encryption will win the enterprise crowd. After all, you don't get enterprise accounts by selling vapourware. Apple knows this.

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  27. Snow Leopard URLs now 404 or redirect by mzs · · Score: 3, Informative

    For a little bit there was a new page:

    http://www.apple.com/macosx/snowleopard/

    It was pretty light on details and basically had all the same info that was on this PR page that now 404s:

    http://www.apple.com/ca/press/2008_06/snow_leopard.html

    Here is the original that I gleaned from ars:

    http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8300945231/m/102001262931/p/9

    "SAN FRANCISCO--June 9, 2008--Apple® today previewed Mac OS® X Snow Leopard, which builds on the incredible success of OS X Leopard and is the next major version of the world's most advanced operating system. Rather than focusing primarily on new features, Snow Leopard will enhance the performance of OS X, set a new standard for quality and lay the foundation for future OS X innovation. Snow Leopard is optimized for multi-core processors, taps into the vast computing power of graphic processing units (GPUs), enables breakthrough amounts of RAM and features a new, modern media platform with QuickTime® X. Snow Leopard includes out-of-the-box support for Microsoft Exchange 2007 and is scheduled to ship in about a year.

    "We have delivered more than a thousand new features to OS X in just seven years and Snow Leopard lays the foundation for thousands more," said Bertrand Serlet, Apple's senior vice president of Software Engineering. "In our continued effort to deliver the best user experience, we hit the pause button on new features to focus on perfecting the world's most advanced operating system."

    Snow Leopard delivers unrivaled support for multi-core processors with a new technology code-named "Grand Central," making it easy for developers to create programs that take full advantage of the power of multi-core Macs. Snow Leopard further extends support for modern hardware with Open Computing Language (OpenCL), which lets any application tap into the vast gigaflops of GPU computing power previously available only to graphics applications. OpenCL is based on the C programming language and has been proposed as an open standard. Furthering OS X's lead in 64-bit technology, Snow Leopard raises the software limit on system memory up to a theoretical 16TB of RAM.

    Using media technology pioneered in OS X iPhone(TM), Snow Leopard introduces QuickTime X, which optimizes support for modern audio and video formats resulting in extremely efficient media playback. Snow Leopard also includes Safari® with the fastest implementation of JavaScript ever, increasing performance by 53 percent, making Web 2.0 applications feel more responsive.*

    For the first time, OS X includes native support for Microsoft Exchange 2007 in OS X applications Mail, iCal® and Address Book, making it even easier to integrate Macs into organizations of any size."

  28. Re:How does the GS look to game devs? by d235j · · Score: 3, Informative

    Any iphone devs have any idea how the new graphics chipset might affect things? Are there going to be GS-specific graphics API calls?

    Also I wonder if we'll see 3gs-only games? Obviously it would unwise to do so from a sales perspective, but I wonder if apple will even allow such a thing.

    Yes, the GS has OpenGL ES 2.0, which is not backwards compatible with OpenGL ES 1.1. So we'll probably see some GS-only games.

  29. Re:The whole event was crap. by MBCook · · Score: 3, Informative

    Really? The fact they seem to have seriously updated the Finder back end code is good. The faster mail is nice. The full Exchange support is going to be huge for many people.

    It's $30. You're not forced to upgrade. You're not being asked for $400 for Business Ultimate Platinum edition.

    Just because Apple isn't competing in the $200 netbook category doesn't mean they are screwing up. It means they care about the customer experience.

    When did Apple ever release "me too!" products to jump into temporarily hot markets?

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  30. Re:The whole event was crap. by amabbi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just do not fully understand Apple's poo-pooing the netbook space. I see a Netbook as a supplement to my bigger system, that I prefer not to carry.

    Netbooks don't have the profit margins that Apple desires. Simple as that.

  31. iPhone 3.0 software release date by pathological+liar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The iPhone 3.0 software release date has been given as June 17th although apparently paid developers can get the GM copy now.

    You'd think a detail like that could have found its way into the summary somewhere...

  32. Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners by je+ne+sais+quoi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    you should have known better than to buy something just before WWDC

    He purchased the phone in February! That's 4-5 months ago. He didn't get "screwed" out of a better phone, he's just bitching that his phone is now last years model. But hey, unreasonable bitching never stopped slashdotters, so while we're wishing for an upgrade discount, why stop at 4-5 months, why not more? Shit, I bought my mac desktop 5 years ago and they've upgraded it since then 3-4 times including changing processors AND operating systems on me, why shouldn't I get an upgrade discount on that? By the GP's logic, Apple should never update their products because people keep buying their existing products. Sorry dude, welcome to the world of electronics, they get upgraded on a yearly or bi-yearly basis and the very minute you buy your product, there is a finite probability you will wake up tomorrow and it will be out of date.

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  33. Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd be pissed off to man. I started looking for my first computer when Intel released the 486/DX33. I'm STILL looking and waiting. Then came the DX/2 models, then PCI, then x4, then the Pentium. I came really close around the time of the FDIV bug. Things were looking good, the P75 and 90 were pigs, MMX did not have application support and it was going to be a while for the P2 and Cyrix had gone under. AMD screwed it up with the 686 and my wait started all over again. As soon as they stop getting faster and the price stops going down, I will eventually get a computer.

  34. Re:No OpenGL ES 2.0 by bomanbot · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Are you sure? I was reading some of the live coverage of the the keynote and found in the live coverage from gdgt the following passage:

    11:48AM - Averages 2x speed increase -- some things are even faster. OpenGL ES 2.0 support. 7.2Mbps HSDPA. Big applause. "The new iPhone 3G S is a REALLY fast phone."

    I have also read the official press release from Apple (not sure if it is already released yet, but it should be soon) and it also mentions OpenGL ES 2.0, so I think you got your upgrade after all :)

  35. See yourself in Apple logo - take picture by _Shorty-dammit · · Score: 5, Informative

    Taking a picture of yourself with the iPhone is easy. When you can see yourself in the reflection of the Apple logo, take your picture. Works just fine and dandy.

  36. the usual BS about 64-bit by stevenj · · Score: 5, Informative
    I was dismayed to see this old canard in Apple's MacOS Snow Leopard technology summary

    64-bit computing [...] enables computers to process twice the number of instructions per clock cycle, which can dramatically speed up numeric calculations and other tasks.

    Haven't people learned by now that this is total BS? 64-bit addressing is independent of instructions per cycle, bus width, or anything like that. (Of course, newer 64-bit systems may be happen to be faster for other, unrelated reasons.) The old "64-bit is twice as fast as 32-bit" is a line of hooey that has been sold to the public for years now (I recall it gaining prominence when Intel started promoting its Itanium plans), but I thought it was finally dying out.

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    1. Re:the usual BS about 64-bit by recoiledsnake · · Score: 3, Informative

      You're absolutely right. In fact, 64-bit code can slow down the application because memory pointers are now 64bit and accessing and moving them will take twice as much bandwidth as earlier. The real speed up comes from the extra registers that AMD introduced in AMD64 and the ability for huge apps to address more than 2GB at a time.

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    2. Re:the usual BS about 64-bit by TheNetAvenger · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes and no...

      If you are in reference to traditional Apple's idea of 64bit, it is all about address space.

      However in outside of Apple world, 64bit means several things beyond just address space.

      1) 64bit chunks of computations instead of 32bit chunks. So the data being 'computed' is in native 64bit chunks - and in theory could be twice as fast in an optimal pass.

      2) 64bit CPU features - more registers, other AMD64/EMT64 features

      3) Combined memory read writes, for example in Vista x64 when a 32bit application is reading or writing to RAM the OS can often combine two 32bit read/writes into ONE 64bit read/write, thus speeding up RAM access.

      The problem with OS X and 64bit is that it hasn't been a 64bit OS, and the only 64bit features OS X has offered was the 64bit address space instead of all the 64bit features of the CPU.

      If the kernel is 'fully' 64bit in Snow Leopard (which it looks NOT to be) it would be faster for OS level operations and application handling. Vista x64 often is much faster than Vista x32 even when running 32bit applications because the OS does take advantage of the 64bit CPUs natively.

      So from OS X point of view, 64bit computing has only been about more address space. But in the non-OS X world, from Linux 64bit to Vista 64bit, the OS actually uses other features of the CPU and calculates in full 64bit chunks thus computing more data faster.

      You are right that 64bit is not going to be twice as fast as 32bit, just like 32bit wasn't twice as fast as 16bit computing. In fact, most 16bit applications took a slight hit when moving to 32bit processors. It was the 'other' features of the 32bit processors that made them a huge jump, like the pre-emptive scheduler. This is also true of the 32bit to 64bit move.

      There are a few 'features' in the 64bit processors, but nothing like the jump from 16bit to 32bit in the x86 timeframe. One feature is the memory access mode (beyond address spacing), but in terms of performance, it is not a big leap.

      The best 64bit performance bang is in how 64bit OSes are using the extra 'space' and 'modes' to get things done, like the Vista example of shoving two memory read/writes into one operation and removal of table linking for dealing with File Systems and even kernel level mapping tables that no longer have to link into 32bit spaces and can just natively use a singe 64bit addressing table. These are modest gains, though.

      True 64bit optimized applications can jump 50% over the same 32bit application, if they are big data crunching applications, like 3D modeling, photo editors, encoders, etc. Having twice the bits to shove data through the CPU does make a difference, and by a lot depending on the application.

      OS X doesn't offer this to its 64bit applications because it thunks the processing and is only giving the application a 64bit address space, so on OS X, a 64bit application will ONLY speed up if it is using more than 4GB of RAM (approx).

  37. PowerPC End of Line killing my PowerBook. by geogaia · · Score: 5, Informative

    Another Apple tradition gone by the wayside: Apple has long supported their older hardware better than most PC makers. (I still visit classrooms quite happily running Mac OS 8 on old PowerPC hardware, for example.) But the new Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) will be the first that will not run on PowerPC Macs. That makes my barely-out-of warranty PowerBook G4 end of line as far as Apple is concerned. I'm not alone in this--I don't know how many million PPC Macs are still running, but Apple was selling them new three years ago. I'm more than a little annoyed. No doubt soon I won't be able to get Apple OS security patches, updates to iLife and iTunes, etc. It's almost like running Windows XP. Fortunately, it's still Mach *nix based, and as long as FOSS developers check their code against the PPC compilers, I can still get current versions of Firefox, Thunderbird, etc.

    1. Re:PowerPC End of Line killing my PowerBook. by illumin8 · · Score: 3, Informative

      That makes my barely-out-of warranty PowerBook G4 end of line as far as Apple is concerned. I'm not alone in this--I don't know how many million PPC Macs are still running, but Apple was selling them new three years ago.

      Actually, that's not correct. Apple stopped selling all G4 Macs in January 2006, when the transition to Intel was complete across all product lines. They have done everything they promised they would do, including provide compatibility with all new OS releases for 3 years. By the time Snow Leopard is released next January, you will have had 4 years of compatibility with all new OS releases, which is even more than they promised.

      What's more, you can continue to run Leopard on your Mac for years to come, and will still receive all security and compatibility updates. Apple is not making your old machine obsolete, even though the processor speed and performance of your old machine quite assuredly is (I had a PowerBook G4 from 2003 and it was getting quite long in the tooth).

      In short, you'll get 3-4 years of solid use out of your portable computer anyway. 5-6 years if Leopard works fine for you. Why are you complaining? How many PC laptops from 2006 are still usable and are even capable of running Vista or Windows 7?

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  38. Re:Good update. by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The $99 phone is the big news the rest of it is just nice.

    Because saving a hundred bucks off the ~$1700 total is such a bargain?

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  39. Re:Tethering lawsuit? by Rayban · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Correction: In the USA, AT&T is the exclusive provider. In Canada, Rogers and Fido (same company basically) offer the iPhone, officially.

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  40. Re:No Macbook aluminium in apple store! by hattig · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yeah, you can buy the 13.3" MacBook Pro they announced, which adds Firewire 800 and an SD card slot to the MacBook configuration they've dropped. Sadly you will have to pay an extra -$100 for this configuration.

  41. Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners by Palshife · · Score: 3, Insightful

    An iPhone is a poor investment. Here's a tip; they'll release a better phone next year, and the 3GS will be worth less.

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  42. Think "development and setup costs" by Fished · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm sure it cost apple a considerable amount to develop and have a manufacturing line for the second version of the iPhone, and I'm willing to bet that the vast bulk of iPhones sold will be the 16gb model. Therefore, they have to amortize the development costs over a smaller market for the larger memory size. It's not really about the cost of the memory, it's about the additional R&D and the cost of having a second assembly line.

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  43. Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners by whisper_jeff · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Property is an investment. Commodities are investments. Stocks and bonds are investments. iPhones are tech toys.

  44. Re:Why an SD slot, I wonder? by AtomicDog · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I, too, don't understand why Apple decided to replace the ExpressCard slot with an SD slot on a supposedly pro-level notebook.

    The ExpressCard slot provided the only high-speed expansion option on Apple's notebooks. Maybe I'd understand this move if there was a docking station available that added other expansion options, but there isn't.

    I do a lot of photography and often shoot gigabytes of raw photos in a single shoot with my dSLR (which uses CF, not SD). Yeah, the sort of work the MacBook Pro is supposed to be aimed at. Besides that, I also do a lot of work with large disk images for the IT work I do.

    Doing such work on my aging MBP is a joy because I have an ExpressCard Serial ATA adapter that lets me use external hard drives without the limitations and overhead of USB, FireWire or ethernet. If I wanted, I could also use the card to connect to an external RAID enclosure at SATA II speeds.

    What good are the performance increases with the CPU, memory, graphics, etc if the only expansion option that provided the quickest data transfer speeds is now gone? Disk i/o will be an even worse bottleneck for me on a new MBP than my old one. No thanks.

    I was looking to upgrade my 2.5 year old MBP with a newer model, but I refuse to do so until Apple brings back an ExpressCard slot or something better.

  45. 3G cheap as chips! by YourExperiment · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wow, I can get a 3G for $99? I'll take one! Oh wait, I have to pay how much on the contract?

    I do wish the media would stop parroting these utterly irrelevant "costs" for mobile devices straight from the press release, as if it was true or something.

  46. Re:To bulky, also old school by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Informative

    Newer DLSR's are pretty much moving in bulk to SD cards already. CF is already on the way out for pro gear.

    No, this is incorrect. Low-end consumer dSLRs are certainly using SD; but those aren't pro gear. Pretty much all the new higher-end cameras from Nikon (D700, D3, D3x), Canon (EOS 5D mark II), Sony (Alpha A900), even Hasselblad (H3DII) are using CF.

    The only higher-end cameras I can find that use SD are the Leica Rangefinders - and people might debate whether or not those are "pro" in the usual sense of the word (they are certainly pricey!).

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  47. The pokes at AT&T in the WWDC 2009 keynote by Gary+W.+Longsine · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Apple was clearly not pleased with AT&T regarding MMS and tethering. If AT&T had a good reason, Apple would have held these features back until AT&T could be ready. In fact, it might well be the case that Apple already *did* hold these features back, as much as a year, and AT&T still isn't ready. Apple is inviting their audience to complain to AT&T. I recommend that AT&T receive a call from all of you iPhone customers who are annoyed by this.

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  48. Re:Why an SD slot, I wonder? by c_forq · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I, too, don't understand why Apple decided to replace the ExpressCard slot with an SD slot on a supposedly pro-level notebook.

    They explained it clearly in the keynote. Less then 1% of users used ExpressCard. Over 90% of users owned cameras that use SD cards. Most users don't like using USB to hook up their cameras. ExpressCard is still available on the 17" MacBook Pro, because they acknowledge there are professional uses for it.

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