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Apple's WWDC Unveils iPhone 3.0, OpenCL, Laptop Updates, and More
Lots of big news from WWDC today including updates to almost all of Apple's laptops. They added a 13-inch version to the MacBook Pro line, updated the MacBook Air, and added a few new ports to some of the machines including an SD slot and firewire 800 port. Software updates saw Safari 4 launched, OS X updates including threading changes, Exchange support to mail, calendar, and address book, and OpenCL a new open graphics standard. The iPhone got quite a bit of love in 3.0, much of it just confirming older news. Cut, copy, and paste, shake to undo, developer APIs, Cocoa Touch support for text, landscape mode updates, spotlight, and MMS all made the bullet list. You will now also be able to rent and purchase movies directly from your iPhone. Other new features in 3.0 include the much debated tethering ability, allowing you to use your iPhone as a cellular modem (unfortunately there was no mention of AT&T actually supporting this feature, a wonder there wasn't a riot), integrated TomTom GPS navigation, and game features galore. New functionality also allows you to locate your iPhone via MobileMe, play a sound to help you locate it (regardless if it is set to silent), and even wipe your data remotely. The New iPhone hardware updates, "3GS", adds a 3 megapixel auto-focus camera, voice interfaces, twice the processing power, and hardware encryption. The 3GS comes in 16GB ($199) and 32GB ($299), pushing the 3G (which they are keeping on the market) to $99. Lots of other small updates amidst the bustle, looks like another successful WWDC.
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Got karma to burn
"Get Some" which Apple execs were rumored to have yelled at rival Palm execs while squeezing their junk.
Stand back, he's gunna blow Steve Jobs!
Gained sd card reader...lost the express card slot. I want the express card slot back.
I'm going to fire my stock broker. The fucker never realized that the companies making KY Jelly and AstroGlide have huge sales increases around the time of a WWDC.
I jest, I jest. Go Apple!
Come on. Not just for video chat, but for ordinary photos. For those of you who have ever tried to take a picture of yourself with friends using an iPhone, you know my pain.
Posting these minute-by-minute conference updates and them appearing on the page backwards?
It seems like I just read some E3 updates laid out in the same manner last week and now I wonder if that article was from Endgadget as well or if this is becoming a common practice.
Has Apple been this abrasive to their competitors during the keynotes before? It was a little tacky IMO
they're still married to AT&T....
So, no iPod Touch refresh?
Just a software update?
Very disappointing for those of use unwilling to cozy up to AT&T.
Too expensive. No real coverage in my area.
FTA: and OpenCL a new open graphics standard
Not quite.
...a framework for writing programs that execute across heterogeneous platforms consisting of CPUs, GPUs, and other processors.
OpenCL is like CUDA, but supposed to be more open along the lines of OpenGL, hence the name. The same guys who manage OpenGL (Khronos) manage OpenCL as well. You could probably use it to do graphics, but that would be stupid.
You are still innocent until proven guilty. What's changed is what they do to innocent people. - notnAP, #26891325
Software updates saw Safari 4 launched, OS X updates including threading changes, Exchange support to mail, calendar, and address book, and OpenCL a new open graphics standard.
To be clear, the updates to OS X referred to are features of OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) which will ship in September and cost $29. It is not an update to 10.5 and is not yet available outside of developer previews.
Bets on when nullriver sues over their tethering software's reasonless removal from the app store now that Apple is offering tethering.
I took a bunch of pictures at WWDC and made a panorama of the Moscone center http://msca.me/1J . Click around it's pretty neat. I think brian lam from gizmodo might be in there on the right. The WWDC'09 has been great so far, but what is up with the matte case that was floating around previously, was that a hoax or what? I could have sworn it was for the $100 one (which ran out in all the stores I've checked).
Push alerts to the iPhone. Here comes the pin the tail on the donkey pop up adds on the iPhone.
I hope there's good security on the auto-locate feature. Aside from the obvious "prank" of remotely wiping someone's iphone, I can also see this being abused for such things as spying on people's locations, or perhaps less invasive but more annoying... a "loved one" forcing your phone to ring when you already set it to silent for a meeting or movie.
Not great but good. The $99 phone is the big news the rest of it is just nice. I like the voice controls, compass, and video but nothing is earth shattering. I do think Palm will provide some much needed competition for the iPhone. The difference in a two year contract runs a few hundred dollars and the Pre offers a keyboard which some people really want. If you can not tether on AT&T then it is just a big slap in the face for US customers. I hope Palm/Sprint will enable that feature on the Pre when they see how bent people are at AT&T over it. Now we need Android on some networks besides T-Mobile and we can start seeing a real three way fight.
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This whole conference was crap. All Apple did was bash Windows, introduce a service pack for Leopard priced at 29USD, and introduce a phone which, well, is only evolutionary, and tell everyone in the US that tethering via AT&T isn't an option for god-knows-what-reason.
They also took out an ExpressCard slot from their MacBook Pros, worsened the battery situation on said laptops, and generally just ripped everyone off. What a waste of time.
What was with the Windows-bashing? They didn't even give a reason. All they said was that it's built on top of Vista... well, duh? Snow Leopard is built on top of Leopard. That's supposed to mean something? Apple is spending a good amount of effort trying to become the biggest troll on the planet... for what? What's the benefit? Too many of my friends were turned off by the unnecessary Windows-bashing; I guess if Apple was trying to win over the enterprise crowd, they did a good job of alienating them right from the start.
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Am I the only one who hates the shake interface for any action at all? Half the time I don't shake it hard enough, so I have to do it again. And for something like undo, it takes your eyes off what you're trying to do... or undo. I realize there are limited inputs on a device with few hard buttons, but hope there's an alternate way.
Can't Apple produce 15" or 13" laptops without that damn glossy display? These mirrors mounted on laptops get really annoying, and I'm not the only one who thinks that non-glossy displays are superior to their allegedly cheaper glossy displays.
One more guy who's looking for a used MBP on ebay.
Any iphone devs have any idea how the new graphics chipset might affect things? Are there going to be GS-specific graphics API calls?
Also I wonder if we'll see 3gs-only games? Obviously it would unwise to do so from a sales perspective, but I wonder if apple will even allow such a thing.
Umm, encryption of...what, exactly?
Are we talking about the flash drive being encrypted? Are we talking about the iPhone finally supporting PGP?
Yeah, we love developer APIs, and I'm sure there's a geek who's mouth is watering for cut and paste, but this announcement just isn't as shiny as past Apple announcements. I'm guessing many will disagree, but personally, I think Apple's innovation has been on a decline, and these smaller innovations (while still involving significant technical effort) will not resonate as well as the video ipod or iphone did, for example.
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Requires new two-year AT&T wireless service contract, sold separately to qualified customers; credit check required; must be 18 or older. For non-qualified customers, including existing AT&T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G, the price with a new two-year agreement is $499 (8GB), $599 (16GB), or $699 (32GB). (from http://www.apple.com/iphone/buy/) Kudos for the new corporate aftertaste and giant spanking to current customers!
Check out the fine print from the Apple Store:
"For non-qualified customers, including existing AT&T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G, the price with a new two-year agreement is $499 (8GB), $599 (16GB), or $699 (32GB)."
Ouch for upgraders.
I wish you had blown your hot load all over the cockholsters in the audience.
then backstage you'd dump a couple of steamin' hot logs right in my mouth.
*sigh*
there's always next year.
- arn, macrumors god
I found it a bit surprising that the Touch was not updated. Technically I would think it is a non-issue, but I suppose they want to give the more lucrative iPhone the bump before the Touch gets the same thing. Its a shame -- I had been waiting a month to buy the Touch hoping it would get the same bump. Oh well.
Considering that the iPhone itself is really a small form-factor computer with communication abilities built in, the line has already been so blurred between phone and computer that I can't see how that fact that another computer can also access the Internet through the connection is all that different. Especially since you, the customer are paying to have the ability to transfer a given number of bits per month. Why should it even matter -- except to anal companies like AT&T who what to sell you capacity and then prevent you from actually using it -- the eventual destination of those bits? How it tethering even different from storing the downloaded data in an iPhone and transferring it later to another device?
Answer: It isn't!
The same for VoIP. It's all just bits being sent and received. Now create a business model that acknowledges this axiom.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
Only a 3 megapixel camera? Decent lens? Light source for indoor? 480/320 screen?
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There's always been a bit of a gap between the $100 (low cost) and the $200 (high cost) smartphones, the Pearl vs the 8820 in blackberry land, for example. With a $99 pricetag the 3G (hardware, at least, the data contract is still damned expensive)is now in line with all of the low-end smartphones currently on the market. With Apple taking a 30% cut on app sales plus a share of the AT&T contract price, it makes sense to push the cost of last generation's hardware down. As much as I and probably a lot of others would love to see a more open platform (Android or Linux, for example) gain ground in the mobile space, this will make it a lot harder to establish a sizable marketshare for the platforms that are more recently emerging into the market.
Still, Android has a shot to build (and surpass) the app library of the iPhone by moving bottom up in terms of price-point. A large number of low to midrange phones running Android could give the platform the customer base it needs to support a large development community which would in turn help build the platform's maturity eventually leading to advanced smartphones with a large and diverse assortment of apps available. This would be almost the reverse of how the iPhone platform grew: starting out as a premium hardware and service, now working down to cheaper hardware to leverage growing revenue streams from a large app library and contracts from the installed (and growing) base. Philosophically and practically (monoculture is typically a bad thing) I would love to see Android succeed on a large scale in the marketplace but as much as I often disagree with Apple's stylistic choices and UI design I have to give kudos for how well they've executed the iPhone and app store as a business.
If there's a $99 iPhone, can a $79 iPod Touch be far behind? All Apple is doing for sure is ensuring that a Touch of similar capacity cannot exceed $99 any longer since an iPhone w/o a contract will otherwise be a better deal.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
Mod the unbeliever straight down to hell!
Whoa. Did they finally FTFF? Wow, cool, I hope Apple posts a video of the keynote or the changes in the finder on their site. For those who don't use OS X, having the Finder rewritten in Cocoa is potentially huge because it gives them a chance to address a number of long-standing issues as well take advantage of a lot of cocoa built-in stuff, but it also may also give the user a lot of customizability because the interface becomes customizable. E.g., I've edited safari to remove the brushed metal look, I've added shortcuts to some menu options, and removed others all together, etc.
Gentlemen! You can't fight in here, this is the war room!
AT&T runs a standard GSM/3G network and allows unlocked phones. There are plenty of phones that support tethering, including all Symbian phones. If you buy an iPhone with restrictions, that's really your problem.
in february, my wife and i both purchased 8GB IPhone 3G phones @ $199 each. i know several other people that have done the same thing within the past couple of months. it really peeves me that apple dropped the price to $99 AND introduced a new phone that has twice the capacity for the same price as the phone that I bought. it would be different if they said, "in 1 year, there will be this blah blah blah phone for $199" because that would have given the consumers a chance to decide if they want to go ahead with the massive $199 purchase or wait to get something that is better for the same price.
i know i'm preachin to the choir, but apple should show some good faith and offer some sort of upgrade plan for people who purchased iphones within the past 6 months. there is no way in hell that i'm going to shell out $199 more within the next couple of years just to get a phone that has features that apple fucked up in the original iphone3g. i would, however, be willing to pay $50-75 to upgrade my phone to the IPhone3GS.
stephen
Because they can't control how you use a tethered computer. Try torrenting something on an un-jailbroken iPhone, then tell me how much it is like "another computer".
Everyone thought it would happen last year. Is it going to happen this year? I will seriously buy a Quad-Core, FW800-equipped MBP, especially if I can get it in a 15". (The 17" form factor has turned out to be slightly cumbersome to transport... not that I have a MBP. My laptop is not TOO much bigger though.) Q9000 dissipates only like 27W TDP, it should be at least doable.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Since most higher-level dSLRs use Compact Flash, I'm a bit surprised they didn't include a CF slot on their "pro" line of laptops instead of an SD slot - especially since a CF slot could've served both CF and SD card users.
#DeleteChrome
Ouch, that's a costly upgrade, when the same thing in an SD card is roughly $20.
A couple of years ago, while wandering the library in downtown San Francisco, I had to take a piss. As I entered the john, Steve Jobs -- the messiah himself -- came out of one of the booths. I stood at the urinal looking at him out of the corner of my eye as he washed his hands. He didn't once look at me. He was busy and in any case I was sure he wouldn't even let me shake his hand.
As soon as he left I darted into the booth he'd vacated, hoping there might be a lingering smell of shit and even a seat still warm from his sturdy ass. I found not only the smell but the shit itself. He'd forgotten to flush. And what a treasure he had left behind. Three or four beautiful specimens floated in the bowl. It apparently had been a fairly dry, constipated shit, for all were fat, stiff, and ruggedly textured. The real prize was a great feast of turd -- a nine inch gastrointestinal triumph as thick as his cock -- or at least as I imagined it!
I knelt before the bowl, inhaling the rich brown fragrance and wondered if I should obey the impulse building up inside me. I'd always been a pc user and had been on the Mac train since last year. Of course I'd had fantasies of meeting him, sucking his cock and balls, not to mention sucking his asshole clean, but I never imagined I would have the chance. Now, here I was, confronted with the most beautiful five-pound turd I'd ever feasted my eyes on, a sausage fit to star in any fantasy and one I knew to have been hatched from the asshole of Steve Jobs, the chosen one.
Why not? I plucked it from the bowl, holding it with both hands to keep it from breaking. I lifted it to my nose. It smelled like rich, ripe limburger (horrid, but thrilling), yet had the consistency of cheddar. What is cheese anyway but milk turning to shit without the benefit of a digestive tract?
I gave it a lick and found that it tasted better then it smelled.
I hesitated no longer. I shoved the fucking thing as far into my mouth as I could get it and sucked on it like a big half nigger cock, beating my meat like a madman. I wanted to completely engulf it and bit off a large chunk, flooding my mouth with the intense, bittersweet flavor. To my delight I found that while the water in the bowl had chilled the outside of the turd, it was still warm inside. As I chewed I discovered that it was filled with hard little bits of something I soon identified as peanuts. He hadn't chewed them carefully and they'd passed through his body virtually unchanged. I ate it greedily, sending lump after peanutty lump sliding scratchily down my throat. My only regret was that Steve Jobs wasn't there to see my loyalty and wash it down with his piss.
I soon reached a terrific climax. I caught my cum in the cupped palm of my hand and drank it down. Believe me, there is no more delightful combination of flavors than the hot sweetness of cum with the rich bitterness of shit. It's even better than listening to an Jobs speech!
Afterwards I was sorry that I hadn't made it last longer. But then I realized that I still had a lot of fun in store for me. There was still a clutch of virile turds left in the bowl. I tenderly fished them out, rolled them into my handkerchief, and stashed them in my briefcase. In the week to come I found all kinds of ways to eat the shit without bolting it right down. Once eaten it's gone forever unless you want to filch it third hand out of your own asshole. Not an unreasonable recourse in moments of desperation or simple boredom.
I stored the turds in the refrigerator when I was not using them but within a week they were all gone. The last one I held in my mouth without chewing, letting it slowly dissolve. I had liquid shit trickling down my throat for nearly four hours. I must have had six orgasms in the process.
http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/technology/file-system.html :(
There's no OpenGL ES 2.0 support in the iPhone 3GS, which makes me rather disseminated. I had been hoping for an upgrade, but it looks like it won't happen. The Palm Pre, on the other hand, has a GPU capable of OpenGL ES 2.0 and shaders.
Wow! MMS! Cut and Paste! Apple is really pushing the boundaries of computing these days.
Everyone that bought an iPhone got sold down the river if the best Apple can do is release 5+ year old cell phone features as something new.
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The reason behind having a smudgy touch keyboard, to support different language keyboards of course, that's a good move.
-- It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -- Aristotle
Seeing Apple jump on board with HTML 5 and especially the video/audio tags is huge. If Apple is right that they own 65% of mobile browsing; having them stay up to date with standards is huge and ought to set the tone for others.
centralized models somet4ing that you
OS 3.0 features : no surprise as per the beta, ie = where are the Java support ? the Flash support ? Tethering is fine but is not allowed yet on major operator :(
3GS features : where are the SD port ? the front camera for 3G visual call ? the standard plug port like miniUSB or microUSB ?
This is still a brillant product, but with new Android phones coming soon (next week ?), I am not sure it will keep contenders far away from the apple's tree.
The brilliant idea of the keynote : zipcar, just a cool way to rent a car, like the one we have in europe to borrow a public bike (velib, velov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velib ). But we don't have remote horn on our iphone app :)
Let's wait for iPhone 4.
Excuse me?
1) Apple spent maybe a minute bashing Windows. Since OS X is a competitor to Windows, this makes sense.
2) Snow Leopard is not a service pack. It has new features, some of which are revolutionary such as a 64-bit kernel, exchange support, OpenCL, Grand Central and dramatic performance improvements. http://www.apple.com/macosx/
3) Perhaps they took out the express slot because not enough of their customers wanted it. I have a MacBook Pro and never saw the use for it.
4) The batteries now have way more battery life, which isn't "worsening" the battery situation in my book. Perhaps you're referring to the fact that the battery is not removable? I don't see that as a major issue. How often does a MacBook Pro user replace their battery?
5) How did Apple "rip everyone off"? Apple is pricing their notebooks more aggressive *and* improving the hardware.
6) Vista was badly received and Microsoft built Windows 7 on top of it. That was their point. I can't say whether or not Vista sucks, since I haven't used it that much.
7) How is Apple "the biggest troll on the planet" for making fun of Microsoft for less than a minute? Other companies do the same things to their competitors.
8) How does less than a minute of making fun of one of their competitors "turn off the enterprise crowd"? Oh, I forgot. All of your friends must comprise 100% of the "enterprise crowd". Maybe features like Grand Central Station, OpenCL, 64-bitness and Exchange Support, not to mention remote wipe and encryption will win the enterprise crowd. After all, you don't get enterprise accounts by selling vapourware. Apple knows this.
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There is no way I'm paying £900 for a 13 inch laptop. I'll likely get a Mac Book Pro in the near future and I'm ok with the larger ones being priced high but the 13 inch ones just don't feel priced right for what you're getting.
For a little bit there was a new page:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/snowleopard/
It was pretty light on details and basically had all the same info that was on this PR page that now 404s:
http://www.apple.com/ca/press/2008_06/snow_leopard.html
Here is the original that I gleaned from ars:
http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8300945231/m/102001262931/p/9
"SAN FRANCISCO--June 9, 2008--Apple® today previewed Mac OS® X Snow Leopard, which builds on the incredible success of OS X Leopard and is the next major version of the world's most advanced operating system. Rather than focusing primarily on new features, Snow Leopard will enhance the performance of OS X, set a new standard for quality and lay the foundation for future OS X innovation. Snow Leopard is optimized for multi-core processors, taps into the vast computing power of graphic processing units (GPUs), enables breakthrough amounts of RAM and features a new, modern media platform with QuickTime® X. Snow Leopard includes out-of-the-box support for Microsoft Exchange 2007 and is scheduled to ship in about a year.
"We have delivered more than a thousand new features to OS X in just seven years and Snow Leopard lays the foundation for thousands more," said Bertrand Serlet, Apple's senior vice president of Software Engineering. "In our continued effort to deliver the best user experience, we hit the pause button on new features to focus on perfecting the world's most advanced operating system."
Snow Leopard delivers unrivaled support for multi-core processors with a new technology code-named "Grand Central," making it easy for developers to create programs that take full advantage of the power of multi-core Macs. Snow Leopard further extends support for modern hardware with Open Computing Language (OpenCL), which lets any application tap into the vast gigaflops of GPU computing power previously available only to graphics applications. OpenCL is based on the C programming language and has been proposed as an open standard. Furthering OS X's lead in 64-bit technology, Snow Leopard raises the software limit on system memory up to a theoretical 16TB of RAM.
Using media technology pioneered in OS X iPhone(TM), Snow Leopard introduces QuickTime X, which optimizes support for modern audio and video formats resulting in extremely efficient media playback. Snow Leopard also includes Safari® with the fastest implementation of JavaScript ever, increasing performance by 53 percent, making Web 2.0 applications feel more responsive.*
For the first time, OS X includes native support for Microsoft Exchange 2007 in OS X applications Mail, iCal® and Address Book, making it even easier to integrate Macs into organizations of any size."
Looks like they silently removed the low end aluminium macbook!
If you want aluminium now you will need a pro!
Did he really cut-off his cock and balls??
Don't cry assclown, no one is going to take your precious Apple products away from you.
Does any of the iPhone features transfer over to the iTouch? I'm getting closer to replacing my first generation shuffle and want to get the newest generation iTouch possible.
The iPhone 3.0 software release date has been given as June 17th although apparently paid developers can get the GM copy now.
You'd think a detail like that could have found its way into the summary somewhere...
Is that unlocked 99 or are you still 'tethered' to the service provider for a few years?
---- Booth was a patriot ----
Go ahead and mod me troll, but... oh wow a Slashdot news story on the same day as the news?!
-- I was raised on the command line, bitch
A nicel news item was that Snow Leopard will cost only $29 as upgrade. A non-typical low price for Apple.
Not everybody does.
It's one of the things that has kept me from buying an iPhone so far, but really, it's a nicety. It was *particularly* nice to be able to tether through an old Nokia 6820 while I was on a four month road trip across the US a few years ago, and under those particular circumstance, convenient tethering might remain enough of a compelling feature by itself to outweigh anything else.
But the funny thing is... for most of what I use tethering for *now* (quick email checks, occasional directions, priceline purchases on short trips, spur-of-the-moment amazon purchases)... I can and would pretty much use a well-designed smart phone for anyway. In other words, the phones themselves (not the least of which is the iPhone) are getting good enough that they do what most people would likely use a tethered computer for most of the time.
This isn't to say another device might not be a better fit for you... personally, I'm still weighing the merits of an iPhone vs a Pre vs an E70 for my next phone. Tethering's a factor, but not a dealbreaker, at least unless I start living a completely mobile life again.
Tweet, tweet.
Though your dig against Apple for their slow to come Java updates is not unfounded
It took way too long for Java 6 to be available for Macs, and it requires Leopard. Apple also made it hard to find the download.
Falcon
Should there be a Law?
Taking a picture of yourself with the iPhone is easy. When you can see yourself in the reflection of the Apple logo, take your picture. Works just fine and dandy.
Haven't people learned by now that this is total BS? 64-bit addressing is independent of instructions per cycle, bus width, or anything like that. (Of course, newer 64-bit systems may be happen to be faster for other, unrelated reasons.) The old "64-bit is twice as fast as 32-bit" is a line of hooey that has been sold to the public for years now (I recall it gaining prominence when Intel started promoting its Itanium plans), but I thought it was finally dying out.
If a thing is not diminished by being shared, it is not rightly owned if it is only owned & not shared. S. Augustine
So now that there is a $200 16GB 3GS, what do with a recently cracked (but completely functional) 16GB 3G? Repairs are $200+ .. throw it out a window?
Another Apple tradition gone by the wayside: Apple has long supported their older hardware better than most PC makers. (I still visit classrooms quite happily running Mac OS 8 on old PowerPC hardware, for example.) But the new Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) will be the first that will not run on PowerPC Macs. That makes my barely-out-of warranty PowerBook G4 end of line as far as Apple is concerned. I'm not alone in this--I don't know how many million PPC Macs are still running, but Apple was selling them new three years ago. I'm more than a little annoyed. No doubt soon I won't be able to get Apple OS security patches, updates to iLife and iTunes, etc. It's almost like running Windows XP. Fortunately, it's still Mach *nix based, and as long as FOSS developers check their code against the PPC compilers, I can still get current versions of Firefox, Thunderbird, etc.
looks like another successful WWDC.
Well, that really depends on how you define success. If you think that they succeeded because they made it through mostly unscathed and that it ended and everyone went home, then you're probably right. Their share price even managed to recover to nearly the same value by closing.
However, most people expect more from Apple than a few minor tweaks and "refreshes", especially regarding the iPhone. Their presentation basically restated, bullet by bullet, everything that had been leaked to date. Nothing new or inspiring, and some things that weren't so inspiring (thanks, AT&T, for nothing). There wasn't even a "One More Thing".
No visions for the future. Nothing innovative, inspiring, or even interesting. In all, it was an ordinary, if not downright boring, conference that promised nothing but More of the Same.
Newer DLSR's are pretty much moving in bulk to SD cards already. CF is already on the way out for pro gear.
A CF card adaptor on the laptop would be far larger as well...
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
One of the slides in the keynote mentioned Open GL ES 2.0 specifically.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I mean... "Apple execs"... "squeezing their [Palm execs] junk"?
Unless the squeezers and junk holders are of different sex. Doesn't sound like they are to me, though...
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
The $99 phone is the big news the rest of it is just nice. I like the voice controls, compass, and video but nothing is earth shattering.
I thought that upgrading the 13" MacBook to a MacBook Pro, and dropping the price, was great news. MacBook Pros are now as low as $1200. One article also said the price for the 17" MacBook Pro was dropped from $2800 to $2500 as well as being upgraded also. However I looked in the Apple store and the 17" isn't even there, just the 13" and 15" are listed. I even searched the store and didn't find it.
Falcon
Should there be a Law?
MMS, Copy&Paste, Video, Tomtom YEAh!
Next year it will get a front facing camera!
The year after that it will get a VGA screen.
Then it will have the same specs as my phone from last year.
Yup +5 funny
Welcome AT&T and iPhone to the year 2002.
OK, OK... not fair...
I didn't get MMS until 2005 on my K700i. See... it's got an "i" in it, just like the iPhone.
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
WWRXSD?
(What Would Rufus Xavier Sarsparilla Do?)
No rubbery backing? (Would have helped with dropping and sliding)
No illuminated apple logo? (Would have helped with night pictures, dark bars(pubs), etc.)
802.11n - Is this there, just not mentioned
Enhanced graphics processor - again, there, but not mentioned?
FM Transmitter - or was this the Nike+ thing? So no tuning to your iPhone? Bummer.
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I'm sure it cost apple a considerable amount to develop and have a manufacturing line for the second version of the iPhone, and I'm willing to bet that the vast bulk of iPhones sold will be the 16gb model. Therefore, they have to amortize the development costs over a smaller market for the larger memory size. It's not really about the cost of the memory, it's about the additional R&D and the cost of having a second assembly line.
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Screen shots don't look OLED to me.
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Wow, I can get a 3G for $99? I'll take one! Oh wait, I have to pay how much on the contract?
I do wish the media would stop parroting these utterly irrelevant "costs" for mobile devices straight from the press release, as if it was true or something.
b00m is what steve jobs says when he blows his load on the face of a mac fanboi
I love Apple, but must agree that the new OS X update really does not have any new incredible features I am dying for.
Though I had the Leopard disk I waited almost a year and a half before upgrading to it from Tiger. And the only reason I did was because I wanted to install Java 6, whereas Leopard supports it Tiger doesn't.
The place I think Apple is still blowing it is in the "netbook" space. I will not spend over $1,000 for an Air to just do email and surf the net.
I agree but Apple dropped the price of the 13" MacBook to $1000. They also upgraded one 13" model to MacBook Pro status and are selling it for $1200. It surprised me when Apple dropped $300 from the 17" MacBook Pro price.
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It's evil, don't buy it!
IIRC, you have always been able to wipe the iphone remotely using the enterprise iphone configuration tool. Basically group policy for iphones.
Although I haven't used it.
How about "no"? That'd be Chrome.
They didn't really remove it. They just rebranded it as the Macbook Pro 13".
Are you adequate?
For all those laptop hunter commercials. They may actually be working.
Did Apple mention which respective countries and carriers will support tethering?
And I'm not talking about a camera flash either! Its been two years and there still is no flash support? I know it must be ATT holding things back, but come on, at least let us have flash enabled over Wi-Fi.
When did Apple ever release "me too!" products to jump into temporarily hot markets?
iPods and iPhones. However Apple does things differently than others, it takes a basic idea others came out with then adds enough extras to it for people to pay a higher price for it.
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This is a quote from the AT&T site when upgrading from the original IPhone non3G
"As a valued AT&T customer, we can offer you a discounted iPhone upgrade at a higher price, along with a 2-year commitment and an $18 upgrade fee. Please proceed with the online upgrade process for pricing details. You may qualify for a full discount on a standard iPhone upgrade on 07/23/2009
I then try to select the single line to upgrade and the site tells me only select a single line. They seem to not want to sell to existing customers till 7/23.
Tethering is the big thing with the new iPhone software was going to be tethering. As expected, AT&T won't likely be supporting it, and they should. I'm appalled at what the cell phone industry is getting away with in our country in limitations and charges. It'd be nice if for once a company got behind the fact that another corporation is abusing their customers and that is the reason why our products are crippled by the time they get to the consumers' hands.
You mean a company that gives a good customer experience on a 3" inch can't on a 8" or 10" inch screen? You know that the real reason is margins and bottomline. Not to mention cannibalizing the sales of higher margin Macbooks by people who want the Mac experience.
ComputerWorld has an article that goes over this:
"Apple can make money on $599 netbook, says analyst".
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3) Perhaps they took out the express slot because not enough of their customers wanted it. I have a MacBook Pro and never saw the use for it.
While I don't use the slot in my MBP if I find a card that will drive a high resolution, more than 1920 X 1200, monitor I'd think about getting it. I've been looking for one but the only ones I've found use USB.
How often does a MacBook Pro user replace their battery?
I switch mine every couple of weeks, but perhaps that's because I got two.
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no video card updates at all? a $1700 latop with on board video?? removeing the exprees card slot? no blue ray? nice job apple!
I will just keep my $1600 laptop with 17" mate screen, ati 4850 512, blue ray, 320gb 7200 hd, 3 usb , 1 usb / e-sata , firewire , sd slot , 4gb of ram, HDMI. It also has mini pci-e slots on the in side as well.
The only thing I've ever seen used in the MBP expresscard slot is an expresscard SD reader.
iPhone Users: "Sweet! Tethering & MMS!"
AT&T: "No fun for you, US!" *pats Japan on the head*
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They just didn't have an announcement ready.
See the engadget article, while brief confirms its availability http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/08/atandt-well-offer-tethering-on-the-iphone/
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Excellent. Oh, hang on, I thought you said it had mince pie slots.
#exclude <ms/windows.h>
I assumed the junk being squeezed belonged to the Apple execs. However I was puzzled as to whether each was squeezing his own on an individual basis, or they were all mutually squeezing each other's.
Then it all became clear; I remembered it was Apple.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
I liked the summary of the article. You don't need to read the whole thing if you just wanted a brief idea of what happened.
That's because they just took a MacBook and slapped a "Pro" sticker on it. It "only" costs $1200 because that's about how much it cost previously.
They did more than just that. There are now two 13" model lines. The regular one is the same as the old but it's price was dropped to $1000. The new 13" MacBook Pro line has a backlit keyboard and Firewire 800. And there are two different ones, one is 2.26GHz, 2GB RAM, 9400M graphics, 160GB hard drive, for $1,119; and the other is 2.53GHz, 4GB, 250GB hard drive model for $1,499.
Both lines were upgraded but the Pro line had more added.
And by "latest beefed up hardware", you mean a somewhat above-average PC
Yea, just like all those PCs that were billed as "Vista Ready" when they weren't, unless you wanted no access to some features. A number of lawsuits were filed over that and at least one gained class action status.
Leopard ran fine on old Macs though, it will run on a PowerPC G4.
With a definition of "run" like that, you have no authority whatsoever to be crticising Vista's performance.
Apple was not slapped with a class action lawsuit, so who has the authority to be criticizing, I certainly wouldn't say it's you.
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I am sure you have seen this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgZKjJt-TkU
BTW, what is common between Starbucks, BMW and Apple?
Is that you Giampaolo, from the MS ad?
No major updates to Finder's functionality. Ugh!
Compared to Vista/Win 7's explorer, Finder is one of the areas I really find lacking, that and horrid mouse acceleration. In Windows 7 the folder tree navigator with a detail view is exactly what I need. I don't want to have to toggle between tree and details view just to get a decent look at my documents. I have reservations about Windows address bar's IE styling, but its functionality is spot on. Navigating back out of directories is a breeze and I always know where my folders are located on my drives. In contrast, breadcrumbs in osX are buried in text menus and the "Path" drop down menu is hidden by default.
Thankfully the $30 upgrade fee is very reasonable and I'm looking forward to having my bootcamp partition recognize my mac partition.
If you can't buy it over the counter sans service contract for $99, then it's NOT a $99 iPhone. It's a lie!
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
Apple was clearly not pleased with AT&T regarding MMS and tethering. If AT&T had a good reason, Apple would have held these features back until AT&T could be ready. In fact, it might well be the case that Apple already *did* hold these features back, as much as a year, and AT&T still isn't ready. Apple is inviting their audience to complain to AT&T. I recommend that AT&T receive a call from all of you iPhone customers who are annoyed by this.
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Every other phone on the AT&T network does *not* support 30 fps + audio vga resolution video messages. It's very likely that AT&T believes that their infrastructure would collapse under the load. They are probably right in that assessment. You, however, are correct that AT&T still doesn't "get it" on the whole. They have a lot of ground to cover before they can be a phone company that I don't want to flee, first chance I get to take iPhone elsewhere.
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i am there as soon as tethering and calling circle happen on at&t
in lieu of the "circle", there used to be a gadget or service that would "live" on a cellular network (had a dial-in number on that network) and could forward calls out thru another line, resulting in unlimited calling thru this "in-network" relay but these devices seem to have disappeared - they were available for the various networks but i fear they have been squashed.. ... does anyone know if they still exist?
Has Apple been this abrasive to their competitors during the keynotes before?
Have they taken digs before? Yes, but just like this year it was a very small part of the presentation... mostly they were talking about new things with little mention of other companies.
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I bought my mac desktop 5 years ago and they've upgraded it since then 3-4 times including changing processors AND operating systems on me, why shouldn't I get an upgrade discount on that?
I've had my MacBook Pro almost 2 years and when I can I'll order a new one. Then after I migrate my data I'll go ahead and list the old MBP on eBay. Right now there's one listed with a 2.33GHz CPU with the last bid at $1400, mine is 2.4GHz.
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This is a rather unexpected, albeit very interesting marketing move. It will be interesting to see how well it plays out. I don't think Windows 7, in any incarnation, will be even remotely as affordable as the next version of OS X, due out in September.
If what you say about MS and holes is true, why don't they just eliminate software sales to the general public and just limit it to a few official blessed vendors, so they can maintain strict integrated quality control? Say they picked six different computer makers, and only did the OEM installs with them, and it was only intended for what they sold and their official peripherals. They could do this, so why aren't they if they are concerned about their OS and apps being used on cheaper stuff?
I guess my point is, I don't agree with your assessment that they would want to dig themselves out of this theoretical hole. Because they aren't doing that. Even if they see it as a marginal problem (if at all), they must have figured they could deal with it OK, else *they wouldn't be* selling to all comers. I think they like having their software on every possible machine they can, even if it only kinda sorta works with Cheapbox brand.
The 17" form factor has turned out to be slightly cumbersome to transport... not that I have a MBP. My laptop is not TOO much bigger though.
I have a 17" MBP yet I want a bigger one. Before I got it I saw a laptop in a Best Buy with a 21" LCD and almost started drooling. If Apple released a 21" MBP I'd be in line waiting to get one. And yes I take the one I have with me. I like hiking and if I can't carry the weight of my MBP then I'm in bad shape. The one thing that concerns me is the possibility of damaging it while carrying it. With padding though the possibility is reduced. Now I want to get a new backpack that's big enough to carry my laptop and my camera equipment, instead of carrying two bags.
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Newer DLSR's are pretty much moving in bulk to SD cards already.
Canon's EOS 5D Mark II, which most certainly is a pro model, uses CF but not SD cards. Now the EOS-1Ds Mark III uses both as does the EOS-1D Mark III.
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I have no clue why that posted anonymously. I didn't check the box...
Fact: Everything I say is fiction.
Some Nokia's DO have video call support. They include two cameras, one on the front and one on the back. The video is based on the H.323M standard. If the carrier supports it, it will even connect the call over ISDN BRI or PRI lines to video conferencing equipment.
Palm will also release a lower end, lower cost WebOS phone soon that should compete with the $99 price point of the low end iPhone.
So far, I'm really liking WebOS. Especially the "card" multitasking interface and the cloud sync. I just wish that Palm would get the SDK out to everyone! Programming WebOS appears to be really, really easy. It is the most powerful feature of the phone, but only programmers get to see it.
Maybe they knocked 6GB of space off, because here come the netbooks with small SSD drives...or tablet thingy.
"I don't think it's selfish, to eat defenseless shellfish." -NOFX
I was looking forward to a bigger pricedrop on the SSDs in the MBP (the computer formerly known as the MacBook, reintroducing the old white is a bit weird to be honest. it went iBook / Powerbook > MacBook / MacBook Pro > iBookesque / MacBookesque 'Pro'. Just saying, bringing back the old case and relabeling it seems a bit unapple), is it worth adopting SSD now? Will the speed be noticeable? And what about the 187$ (Danish prices) MacBook 13" price difference for 0.27GHz, does that really matter if you're running on SSD, 4GB Ram and decent gfx cards?
Perform a thought experiment: measure the quantity of data that a hundred iPhone users go through in a month at present. You'll find it's X, mainly composed of some light web browsing, a bit of email, some youtube, etc.
Fast forward to a brave new world of tethering, just after Joe Sixpack has realised he doesn't need a USB 3G modem for his laptop, or even home broadband - he can just tether and use his iPhone. Measure the quantity of data a hundred users go through in a month. Be surprised that it's several multiples of X.
I bought a new phone in April. I wanted to wait, but my old phone died and my wife was pregnant. Oh well. Such is life. I'll just get a super-duper iPhone 2 years+3 months from now.
Except for ending slavery, the Nazis, communism, & securing American independence, war has never solved anything.
I absolutely hate flash. It crashes, causes pages to hang, and is a rampant memory hog. HTML5 killing flash video will make me very happy.
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