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Comedy Central Confirms 26 New Futurama Episodes

e9th was one of several readers to write with an update to the Futurama rumors we discussed earlier this week: "TVWeek reports that 20th Century Fox Television and Comedy Central have officially confirmed a deal for 26 new episodes of Futurama, due to the strong ratings of its reruns and feature-length specials. Matt Groening is quoted as saying, 'We're thrilled Futurama is coming back. We now have only 25,766 episodes to make before we catch up with Bender and Fry in the year 3000.' According to the press release, the episodes will begin to come out in mid-2010."

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  1. Awesome... by GigaHurtsMyRobot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why does it take Comedy Central to re-animate the corpses of great shows?

    1. Re:Awesome... by iamjoltman · · Score: 1

      Why does it take Comedy Central to re-animate the corpses of great shows?

      Um, I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure this is the first corpse that Comedy Central has re-animated.

    2. Re:Awesome... by Hatta · · Score: 2, Informative

      The success of Family Guy on Adult Swim played no small part in its resurrection by Fox. But yes, this might be the first series Comedy Central itself has commissioned new episodes of.

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    3. Re:Awesome... by maxume · · Score: 2, Informative

      You say 'Comedy Central itself' as if Comedy Central is somehow associated with Adult Swim and Cartoon Network. It isn't, well, not beyond being basic cable (Viacom owns Comedy Central, Time Warner owns Cartoon Network, by way of Turner).

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    4. Re:Awesome... by AndrewNeo · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think it was said best in the words of the Aqua Teen Hunger Force:

      Meatwad: Why don't you ask that TV if he'd mind showing me some Futurama? I like me some Futurama.
      Master Shake: Well, now we're too damn cheap to receive it, so go the hell over to Carl Central and watch it to your heart's content.
      Meatwad: Carl gets Futurama?
      Master Shake: He didn't even want it until we started watching it

    5. Re:Awesome... by Hatta · · Score: 1, Funny

      Oh you're right. I had missed that. Quick, someone mod me down!

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    6. Re:Awesome... by hedwards · · Score: 1, Redundant

      Basically since Cartoon Network and DVD sales demonstrated that there was great profit in reanimating corpses. One of the nice things about the trend to releasing TV shows via DVD is that if enough people buy them, the networks start to see dollar signs and are more apt to uncancel them. Admittedly it has to be fairly quick and it doesn't ensure that the show is any good after coming back, but it does give fans at least some hope of getting the show back. Plus, they're zombie shows, and kids like zombies, right?

    7. Re:Awesome... by evilkasper · · Score: 3, Funny

      Because they dabble in croakamancy?

    8. Re:Awesome... by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      Why does it take Comedy Central to re-animate the corpses of great shows?

      Does it smell funny? Maybe they could re-animate politics.

    9. Re:Awesome... by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      I need to get those box sets... ATHF is awesome.

    10. Re:Awesome... by maxume · · Score: 1

      The moderation in this thread is giving me a headache.

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    11. Re:Awesome... by uberjack · · Score: 1

      I hate to reference another show altogether, but BEST. NEWS. EVER.

    12. Re:Awesome... by RealGrouchy · · Score: 1

      Why does it take Comedy Central to re-animate the corpses of great shows?

      It's easier in this case, because they just have to reanimate the head and put it in a jar.

      - RG>

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    13. Re:Awesome... by TheoMurpse · · Score: 1

      Well, the Fox execs would revive shows.......but they are already in their pajamas.

    14. Re:Awesome... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      necromancers on retainer. the other networks have to pay big premiums because they don't keep them on retainer.

    15. Re:Awesome... by PresidentEnder · · Score: 1

      They also dabble in dirtamancy from time to time. Naked trucker and T-Bone? Colbert and Stewart might count as thinkamancy... they've got a trimancer!

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    16. Re:Awesome... by brasselv · · Score: 1

      lol, why are mods moderating parent offtopic?? the poor guy was just being informative, nice, and not even controversial...

      is it just me, or the moderation is getting more problematic lately, for whatever reason?

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    17. Re:Awesome... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://entertainment.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1263713&cid=28280189

      There's no -1 wrong.

  2. Huh wha...? by geekoid · · Score: 1

    yes, yes. We all know Comedy Central executive of extremely intelligent and deserve a huge raise.

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    1. Re:Huh wha...? by residieu · · Score: 2, Informative

      They just don't want to be turned into Torgo's Executive Powder

    2. Re:Huh wha...? by sexconker · · Score: 1

      It's got a million and one uses.

    3. Re:Huh wha...? by Dishevel · · Score: 1, Insightful

      If you give executives a raise Obama's gonna be PISSED!

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    4. Re:Huh wha...? by Rei · · Score: 1

      Well, at least they're not Fox. ;)

      By the way: Am I the only one who sees things like this:

      Matt Groening is quoted as saying, 'We're thrilled Futurama is coming back. We now have only 25,766 episodes to make before we catch up with Bender and Fry in the year 3000.' ... and automatically pictures Groening's voice as Professor Farnsworth's?

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    5. Re:Huh wha...? by SBrach · · Score: 3, Funny

      automatically pictures Groening's voice

      VOICES DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!

    6. Re:Huh wha...? by dangitman · · Score: 1

      GOOD NIGHT!

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  3. Sounds like Fox has finally got its act together. by Chardish · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lessons learned:

    1. 1. Ratings are not the end-all be-all.
    2. 2. DVD sales matter.

    Thinking like this is what saved Dollhouse.

  4. Good news, everyone! by cheezitman2001 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Tomorrow, you'll all be making a delivery to Ebola 9, the virus planet.

    1. Re:Good news, everyone! by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 4, Funny

      "The morons who cancelled us not only got fired, but also got beaten! Badly!"

    2. Re:Good news, everyone! by actionbastard · · Score: 1

      Then they were ground up into a fine, pink, powder. Ah! That soothes the burn!

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  5. Hope they warm up before starting by Phoenix666 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    the two movies that followed the series felt like the writers and voice actors were out of practice. That said, this is Good News! indeed.

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    1. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by AikonMGB · · Score: 1

      Four movies.

      Aikon-

    2. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by Abcd1234 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Two movies? Try four:

      Bender's Big Score
      The Beast With A Billion Backs
      Bender's Big Game
      Into The Wild Green Yonder

      And I wouldn't say the writers were out of practice, so much as they weren't used to writing a 90-minute feature-length piece (the same problem is evident in the Simpsons movie). Futurama excelled in 22-minute installments. It'll be nice to see them return to that format.

    3. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by Abcd1234 · · Score: 1

      Doh... make that "Bender's Game". I always do that...

    4. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by LMacG · · Score: 1

      Which "two"? The first two? The last two? Numbers 1 and 4?

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    5. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's selective perception to protect the mind.

      After all, there has been only one Star Wars trilogy!

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    6. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by sexconker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Bender's Game was awesome and hilarious. Most Futurama "fans" who say they don't like this aren't actual Futurama fans. They're the "fans" that came along after the show was canceled, and who have only watched the show selectively. These people do not get/appreciate the many, many nerdy references. This movies was pure Futurama.

      The weakest of the four is The Beast with a Billion Backs.

    7. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 1

      And Frank Herbert wrote all 6 Dune books!

    8. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by Volante3192 · · Score: 1

      I wasn't fond of Bender's Game...but for a particular reason: I enjoyed the A story, and I enjoyed the B story, I just didn't like how they were joined together. Very awkward.

    9. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sure told him!

    10. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by spidercoz · · Score: 1

      The weakest of the four is The Beast with a Billion Backs.

      I agree, that one kind of annoyed me. Though that was probably just David Cross.

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    11. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by Fallingcow · · Score: 1

      You mean all 4 Dune books.

    12. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by Rei · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What got me about it was that it had more plot holes than Fry's novel in The Day the Earth Stood Stupid.

        * The professor's plan to deal with high fuel prices is... to destroy fuel? So that people will come up with something better? How are they going to do that with everything shut down? Why not just invent something better? I mean, he runs a delivery company; he has the most to lose.
        * Doesn't Dark Matter "weigh as much as a thousand suns"? What are people doing handling it like it's nothing?
        * If Nibbler can outright step out of the universe, what's he doing trapped in a cage?
        * A mere scientific research outpost filled up an entire planet with dark matter? What about the rest of the species then?
        * If dark matter no longer works as fuel, and the new power source is to be towed around by Niblonians, how did the ship get back to Earth?

      And on and on. The one that really bugs me is the mass issue. They could probably make up cheap excuses for the rest of the stuff, but come on... if you, as a writer, create a Rule of the Universe, be consistent about it! Physical properties shouldn't spontaneously change without explanation or reason.

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    13. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      And I wouldn't say the writers were out of practice, so much as they weren't used to writing a 90-minute feature-length piece (the same problem is evident in the Simpsons movie). Futurama excelled in 22-minute installments. It'll be nice to see them return to that format.

      I totally agree. The movies weren't horrible, by any means - but it seemed that writing much longer stories than they're used to, combined with the directive that somehow they should also be able to chop these longer stories into half-hour segments, did not work all that well. There were plenty of reminders of why it was a great show, but what makes Futurama work just doesn't translate well to feature-length stories.

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    14. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by sexconker · · Score: 1

      The Professor's plan is a shot at all the enviro nuts who enjoyed $5+ gas and praised it as forcing us to consider new options, when in fact it didn't do shit.

      Obviously that's not pure, refined dark matter.
      Probably a tiny spec of dark matter wrapped in a big ol' Nibbler turd.

      Nibbler isn't magic. The Niblonians are advanced, but they don't have magic powers.

      Obviously a joke about pollution. Small planet / it's a cartoon, expect exaggeration. What about the other species?

      The ship was towed by Niblonians, duh.

    15. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by n4f · · Score: 2, Informative

      The professor's plan to deal with high fuel prices is... to destroy fuel? So that people will come up with something better? How are they going to do that with everything shut down? Why not just invent something better? I mean, he runs a delivery company; he has the most to lose.

      But the professor's plan worked! Planet Express ship is now running on low cost, clean burning whale oil!!! ;)

    16. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by Atzanteol · · Score: 1

      Well, as Deepak Chopra taught us, quantum physics means anything can happen at any time for no reason.

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    17. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by Rei · · Score: 1

      The Professor's plan is a shot at all the enviro nuts who enjoyed $5+ gas and praised it as forcing us to consider new options, when in fact it didn't do shit.

      1) That doesn't make it not a plot hole.
      2) Didn't do anything? Really? Have you checked out CAFE standards lately? Or how much hybrid sales went up while gas prices were high and how SUV sales collapsed?

      Probably a tiny spec of dark matter wrapped in a big ol' Nibbler turd.

      Don't you remember Fry being ticketed for "Failure to Scoop" because he couldn't lift it?

      Nibbler isn't magic. The Niblonians are advanced, but they don't have magic powers.

      They have the power to leave the universe at a whim.

      Obviously a joke about pollution.

      It's still a plot hole.

      The ship was towed by Niblonians, duh.

      So they off-camera gained the ability to fly? Come on...

      it's a cartoon, expect exaggeration

      Exaggeration is fine. Plot holes are not. They're bad writing. If you do introduce a plot hole, at least come up with a cheesy excuse for it in the movie; don't just leave your audience going, "Huh?" Heck, you don't even have to come up with an excuse -- just acknowledge it. The characters sharing in the audience's confusion can be even funnier than excusing it away.

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    18. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by Rei · · Score: 4, Funny

      "...solving the problem once and for all."
      "But-"
      "ONCE AND FOR ALL!"

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    19. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by osu-neko · · Score: 1

      Doesn't Dark Matter "weigh as much as a thousand suns"? What are people doing handling it like it's nothing?

      This statement doesn't make any sense. Feathers weigh as much as a thousand suns, assuming you have enough of them. A piece of lead can weigh less than a piece of popcorn. The statement "dark matter weighs as much as a thousand suns" is nonsensical, well, unless you mean that literally, in which case it's far too light to account for the things its supposed to account for. Dark matter weighs as much as billions and billions of galaxies. How much does a small quantity of it weigh? Well, a gram of it weighs one gram, I'm pretty sure...

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    20. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by nabsltd · · Score: 1

      Have you checked out CAFE standards lately?

      Are you referring to the standards which increase the per-capita consumption of gasoline?

      See, a funny thing happened...once people got used to paying $100/week/month/whatever on "transportation", they don't mind paying that forever. So, now that the new car gets better mileage, they drive more miles...so many more miles that the net result is they use more gasoline.

    21. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And thank goodness there were no sequels to The Matrix.

    22. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by zoips · · Score: 1

      He's referring to a specific measurement of dark matter, specifically a Nibbler steamer, which Fry tells the cops weighs as much as a thousand suns as they are citing him for failure to scoop.

    23. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by Abcd1234 · · Score: 1

      So, now that the new car gets better mileage, they drive more miles...so many more miles that the net result is they use more gasoline.

      Funny, then, that total miles driven declined last year. But, hey, why look at the facts when you can just make stuff up, right?

    24. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by Rei · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Are you referring to the standards which increase the per-capita consumption of gasoline?

      Oh, god, another Jevonite...

      Right. And if our cars get 300 miles per gallon, I'll suddenly start driving 120,000 miles per year for no particular reason. Have you ever looked at a graph of the US's oil consumption? See that one major time in modern US history where there was a protracted drop in oil consumption? There was a dip during the 1973 oil crisis, but then consumption kept growing (despite oil prices plateauing at near the 1973 levels)... up until 1978. Then for years (despite the end of the 1979 energy crisis), consumption kept falling. In the 80s, consumption bottomed out, and then continued a steady rise. What happened in 1978 that was so different? The creation of CAFE. But then CAFE stagnated, and so eventually the market was saturated with vehicles produced under CAFE standards, and the continued growth of the US population and auto market overwhelmed it.

      The "rebound effect" you refer to is estimated by the National Research Council to only be about 10-20%.

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    25. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by Skuld-Chan · · Score: 1

      I thought benders game was hillarious, but I think it probably appealed to people who had played AD&D sometime in their life and people who were futurama fans.

    26. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by Planesdragon · · Score: 1

      Exaggeration is fine. Plot holes are not. They're bad writing,

      No, it's bad reading.

      Bad writing is when you're reading the prose, and the plot, and you stop enjoying yourself. If you noticed a plot hole RIGHT THEN, it's bad writing. If you don't notice it until you're done with the book -- it's fine writing. Just a plot hole. Some of the best books ever written have glaring plot holes that are never fully settled.

      Life is kinda like that, you know.

      (Oh, and the show's a FARCE. It doesn't have to be consistent, any more than the Simpsons has to decide what's in their back yard, or Mad Magazine has to figure out who the Spies are working for.)

    27. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by snuf23 · · Score: 1

      Did you notice how when gas prices dropped people started buying SUVs again?

      American's attention spans are limited to the current price at the pump.

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    28. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by jaxtherat · · Score: 1

      Nice sweeping generalisation there, you're basically saying: "everyone who disagrees with me must be wrong purely based on the fact that they disagree with me". Oh wait, I forgot I was on /.

      Anyway, I know a few people (including me) who actually think that Bender's Game was the weakest movie. The pacing was all over the place, and the Professor making out with Amy repeatedly was just stupid. The joke was stretched to the point where it wasn't funny any more. It just didn't feel like Futurama, and felt more like Seth MacFarlane humour ala Family Guy.

      Each to their own I guess!

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    29. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by Rei · · Score: 1

      If you noticed a plot hole RIGHT THEN, it's bad writing./I.

      Exactly; bad writing.

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    30. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by Exatron · · Score: 1

      So they off-camera gained the ability to fly? Come on...

      No, the ship never left earth. Mom's base was at the north pole. The movie just didn't establish that very well.

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    31. Re:Hope they warm up before starting by dangitman · · Score: 1

      The professor's plan to deal with high fuel prices is... to destroy fuel? So that people will come up with something better?

      I'm not sure what Futurama you're watching - haven't you noticed yet that the professor is senile and rarely has good ideas unless it's purely by chance?

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  6. More Than Deserves a Second Chance by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm convinced Futurama was not canceled for any reason within its power. The powers that be at Fox seemed to think that moving its time slot around so no one knew when it was on was a great idea. I don't know how the politics work there within the scheduling and piloting areas of Fox but someone must have had a problem with Futurama.

    The show had a great format. You had a mechanism for sending the crew anywhere where Professor Farnsworth would walk in saying "Good news everyone ... you're going to planet X to deliver package Y" with optional information about said planet. From there, they could go anywhere. Using a mechanism like this was a lot like Star Trek (although better than just Trek's "for the sake of discovery" in my opinion but I know that's a monkey shit fight I can't win). And Star Trek (or some form of it) is still going strong on that same idea. Hell, I'll bet there's some pulp sci-fi series in nickel paperback form long ago that used the idea that the universe has an uncountable number of planets so there's an uncountable number of plot lines to keep my readers entertained and me employed.

    And Futurama is animated so you're not limited by budgets and CGI.

    I think the writers did a good job of keeping multiple plot arcs up and concentrating on them every now and then to keep the fans happy. I think the first movie (Bender's Big Score) was a clear indication of how much they value development in plot arcs and connections between episodes.

    To compare it to a show far past it's prime and in a similar format: The Simpsons. The Simpsons has explored every possible crevice and building in Springfield to center on ... from the town sundial to the quarry to the statue of Jedediah Springfield to Springfield Gorge to the old folks home to the ... they have stretched that town out so badly that recent episodes seem to seep more into neighboring towns for a desperate change of pace. You wouldn't have this problem with Futurama.

    Sure, Futurama could jump the shark. But I bet it will last a lot longer than other series if given the chance. Sure, Futurama could end up worse than before the break--much like Family Guy. But I think Family Guy depended too much on edgy questionable humor and when it came back and still had that humor it just wasn't as shocking. And the gimmicks and long digresses got old and tedious. I don't think Futurama relies on these as much as Family Guy.

    Anyways, that's my largely opinionated two cents about a show I knew nothing about when it was airing and found it immensely enjoyable years after it was canceled. That's the only show I can say that about. The movies were ok but nothing like the TV formatted shows. Here's to hoping it's just as good as when it left off Season Four!

    For the record normally I would complain about lack of originality in a situation like this but after watching some new shows on TV I don't care. Who ever is pitching/accepting these shows like The War at Home and 'til Death should be shot.

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    1. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by harryandthehenderson · · Score: 4, Informative

      And Futurama is animated so you're not limited by budgets and CGI.

      Futurama is animated using digital ink and paint techniques. So, yes, by its definition it would be CGI.

    2. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by kenp2002 · · Score: 1

      ...And Futurama is animated so you're not limited by budgets and CGI...

      Actually most animation is now computer driven so it is actually CGI but considerably cheaper then the old animation methods. 2-D CGI is still CGI.

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    3. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by harryandthehenderson · · Score: 2, Informative

      Oops left that there is extensive 3D CGI rendering used throughout the show by Rough Draft using the PowerAnimator modeling software.

    4. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 4, Funny

      "The morons who cancelled us not only got fired, but also got beaten! Badly!"

      The biggest problem plaguing Fox was the constant shuffling of executives in charge of the schedule. Because the new guy in place feared that a succesful show implemented by its predecessor would not give HIM credit, he'd just move it around, keeping prime slots for his own pet projects. Fast forward six months, change execs again, repeat until your schedule is a stinker parade surrounding a few scant barely palatable options. Good shows get lost in the cracks.

      "This is executive Alpha, programmed to like things he's seen before."
      "Hey hey hey!"
      "This is executive Beta, programmed to underestimate the audience."
      "It's funny, but how will it go with farmers?"
      "And this is executive Gamma, programmed to roll dice to determine the schedule."
      *rolls dice* "MORE REALITY SHOWS!"

    5. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by Darth_brooks · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "Family Guy" is the Denzel Washington of animated series. At one point, it was fresh and original.

      But then it became huge. Now everyone loves it because it's "Family Guy." Stewie's gonna say something gay, there's gonna be thirty "like that time I was..." jokes that are sorta mildly amusing. Every once it a while it steps out and does something fresh (Blue Harvest), but then it's back into the routine. Or the 'new' just gets recycled into the routine (like the Shawshank parody.)

      Denzel Washington does the same thing as an actor. He's played "Morally right guy that the establishment doesn't like / believe / trust" in like twenty movies now. Every once in a while he steps out and it's fantastic (Training Day), but then he turns around and makes "Man on Fire" three more times for the paychecks.

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    6. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by Captain+Spam · · Score: 3, Informative

      And Futurama is animated so you're not limited by budgets and CGI.

      I'm certain all the artists they have animating the show would be happy to hear that they're all working for free, since they're obviously not included in your budget plan.

      And Futurama DOES use a lot of CGI effects (i.e. the New New York skyline shots). They're just not too obvious and they fit in with the hand-drawn stuff.

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    7. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by Volante3192 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Easier to make Family Guy drinking games though.

      Recognize a pop culture reference? Take a shot.
      Be the only one in the room who gets it? Take two shots.

    8. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by Darth_brooks · · Score: 5, Funny

      "It's funny, but how will it go with farmers?"

      Correct quote: ""This is executive Beta, programmed to underestimate middle America." "It's funny, but will it get them off their tractors?"

      Loss of 20 geek points. Please complete three Windows ME to Vista upgrades as penance.

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    9. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 3, Funny

      Please complete three Windows ME to Vista upgrades as penance.

      Can't I just take over boulder duty from Sysyphus instead? Then I'd be done sometime this millenia at least!

    10. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by ari_j · · Score: 1

      "It's funny, but how will it go with farmers?"

      Correct quote: ""This is executive Beta, programmed to underestimate middle America." "It's funny, but will it get them off their tractors?"

      Loss of 20 geek points. Please complete three Windows ME to Vista upgrades as penance.

      Loss of 50 geek points for using an off-topic penance. The correct penance is to demote to Bureaucrat Grade 37. Now you're going to have to deliver pillows on Stumbos IV, without the anti-gravity dolly.

    11. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 1

      "Family Guy" is the Denzel Washington of animated series. At one point, it was fresh and original.

      But then it became huge. Now everyone loves it because it's "Family Guy." Stewie's gonna say something gay, there's gonna be thirty "like that time I was..." jokes that are sorta mildly amusing. Every once it a while it steps out and does something fresh (Blue Harvest), but then it's back into the routine. Or the 'new' just gets recycled into the routine (like the Shawshank parody.)

      Denzel Washington does the same thing as an actor. He's played "Morally right guy that the establishment doesn't like / believe / trust" in like twenty movies now. Every once in a while he steps out and it's fantastic (Training Day), but then he turns around and makes "Man on Fire" three more times for the paychecks.

      I think that FG's parodies, best exemplified in "Blue Harvest," suffer from the writing staff's lack of experience writing scenes other than "like that time I was..." jokes. Compare Blue Harvest with the Robot Chicken Star Wars special and you see FG following the original plot and dialog with occasional slight tweaks. When they digress heavily, and they only do it a handful of times, they end up doing rather unsuccessful versions of their normal non sequiturs. Robot Chicken, on the other hand, showed a great deal of creativity. It actually came up with new ideas in the setting of Star Wars, where FG mostly just drew the original Star Wars movie.

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    12. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You say that like that doesn't apply to every single show that is on for more than a single season.

    13. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by momerath2003 · · Score: 1

      The key is that they don't have to spend gobs of money in an attempt to make it photorealistic.

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    14. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by hedwards · · Score: 1

      Yes, and a significant number of models are reused episode to episode. I'd be surprised if they haven't got the DOoP headquarters squirreled away somewhere, in case it ever gets rebuilt. They do still have to repaint things as needed, but the work of designing the space and rendering it to model is complete. Just move the camera and rerender.

      I have to admit that watching older cartoons, even those that are only 15 years old makes me kind of nostalgic. For the times when long hallways had the same table every 10 feet and every line was composed of the same 6 people queing and requeing as required to fill space.

    15. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by relguj9 · · Score: 1

      Anyways, that's my largely opinionated two cents about a show I knew nothing about when it was airing and found it immensely enjoyable years after it was canceled. That's the only show I can say that about. The movies were ok but nothing like the TV formatted shows. Here's to hoping it's just as good as when it left off Season Four!

      I agree completely! I watched this for the first time on Cartoon Network and got hooked and watched every episode that aired religiously until I had seen them all several times.

      At the end of the day, Cartoon Network deserves a lot of credit for (yet again) resurrecting a once, but clearly undeservedly and prematurely, dead comedy cartoon. I'm more excited about Futurama than I was about Family Guy though!

    16. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by krakelohm · · Score: 1

      I think Robot Chicken as an 'animated skit show' did what was expected of them, just made a bunch of star wars skits, just as Family Guy made a (lack of a better term) story episode. Dont get me wrong I dig the Chicken but they did nothing more then usually except kept with a theme for the whole time.

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    17. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Nice try, but had they actually had those to install, they would ahve lost more mod point. Resulting in more installs. Kind Sisyphus-ian in nature. Yet, two Sisyphus jokes in one /. thread.

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    18. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by sexconker · · Score: 2, Funny

      GAME SHOWS ARE BACK

    19. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by sexconker · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hover dolly.

      Loss of 100 geek points and 1000 pedant points.

    20. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by geekoid · · Score: 1

      First, you dn't like it, don't watch. Lots of people don't like it, they jsut don't have sucj a huge egoas to think anyone cares.

      In Hollywood, it's 1 to 5. You can make 5 'paycheck' movies and long as you then do at least one 'good' one.

      Or it used to be, but with Adam Sandler and Will Farrell still making bank, that rule might have been suspended~

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    21. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      "The morons who cancelled us not only got fired, but also got beaten! Badly!"

      The biggest problem plaguing Fox was the constant shuffling of executives in charge of the schedule. Because the new guy in place feared that a succesful show implemented by its predecessor would not give HIM credit, he'd just move it around, keeping prime slots for his own pet projects. Fast forward six months, change execs again, repeat until your schedule is a stinker parade surrounding a few scant barely palatable options. Good shows get lost in the cracks.

      The other issue is that sports often pre-empted Futurama (and many other shows), or in some timezones, extended over it. So even if you knew when Futurama was supposed to be on (that week), there's a good chance it would get pre-empted anyhow. This often led to seasons being cut short because not only did the timeslot move constantly, but the show would be aired erratically.

      It's not like Fox doesn't have uh, Fox Sports to show that stuff on... those not interested catch it close to live, those who want to watch sports (always live) can use their DVRs or VCRs to record the programming as normal.

      The Fox network is probably why people need DVRs to keep track of the constant schedule shifts, and have those DVRs check almost hourly to ensure shows are still going to be aired and not pre-empted by something else. And Fox will then still screw it up.

      For those not blessed with DVRs (they were fairly new and unusual nearly a decade ago), it was trivially easy to miss a new episode of Futurama thinking spotrs would be on, or trying to catch Futurama and catching the end of football or something. At least there were several enterprising people back then putting up episodes for download...

    22. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by Stenchwarrior · · Score: 0

      I post all comments at a score of 0 so I have nothing to lose if I'm wrong, but shouldn't your sig read "If I dial 0.0.0.0, can I make all the phones in the world ring at once?"

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    23. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm convinced Futurama was not canceled for any reason within its power. The powers that be at Fox seemed to think that moving its time slot around so no one knew when it was on was a great idea. I don't know how the politics work there within the scheduling and piloting areas of Fox but someone must have had a problem with Futurama.

      They do this to any decent show with a primarily "cult" following. If they can't move it to 1am on a Sunday (AKA Firefly) and maintain "decent" ratings then apparently the following just isn't big enough for them. They have done this (or similar) with Firefly, Futurama, Angel, and more recently Dollhouse and Sarah Connor.

    24. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by sexconker · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Blue Harvest was shit, actually.

      Family Guy's references are so fucking dialed-in that they actually offend me.
      They copy scenes from movies so often, with nothing added, and for no reason other than to fill time that I don't see how anyone could consider them a reference, tribute, or homage. It's fucking plagiarism.

      They drag out "jokes" so long and so often that "dragging out a joke way too long" has BECOME their new joke, and they've dragged THAT joke out way too long.

      And internet memes? Really?

      And taking pot shots at the Simpsons? Stealing Chuck Mangione and Feels So Good from King of the Hill (AND not referring to Chuck Mangione by name at all, AND calling the instrument a trumpet when it's NOT a fucking trumpet!)?

      Seth McFarlane is a fucking hack who talks just to hear the sound of his own voice. We'll have three shows by him soon.

      Here's how it goes.

      SCENE: Writers sitting around a table talking about the 80s.

      Writer 1: "Hey you remember <thing from the 80s>? That was so cool!"

      Writer 2: "Yeah, lol!"

      Writer 3: "What? I don't remember that."

      Writer 1: "You don't know <thing>? OMG it was the best! It had <thing> and <thing>!"

      Writer 2: "Here look I found it on the internet!"

      Writer 3: "Oh yeah, I vaguely remember this. But it didn't have <thing> and it was actually just a <thing>."

      Writer 2 (reading Wikipedia): "Oh yeah, I guess you 're right. BUT OMG WE SHOULD SO USE THIS FOR THE SHOW!"

      Writer 1: "YEAH!!!"

    25. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by TheSync · · Score: 1

      The other issue is that sports often pre-empted Futurama (and many other shows), or in some timezones, extended over it.

      In 2008, FOX's Sunday National NFL Game (4:15 PM ET) was the most-watched weekly program on TV with an average of 22.3 million viewers. (source).

      According to Wikipedia, "When Futurama was effectively cancelled in 2003, it had averaged 6.4 million viewers for the first half of its fourth broadcast season".

    26. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that execubot Gamma was the one programmed to underestimate middle America. Execubot Beta rolled the dice.

      -50 geek points, and the body part of your choice will be transformed into a low-cost substitute for Torgo's Executive Powder.

    27. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by RealGrouchy · · Score: 1

      Just tell them you upgraded from ME to Vista; anybody able to tell the difference will know not to take a look for fear of being turned to stone.

      - RG>

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    28. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by socrplayr813 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What does it for me is that Futurama utilizes some fairly intelligent humor, without going so far as to set itself above or beyond its audience. It also successfully mixes in small amounts of shock and surprise humor (ala Family Guy, but usually more subtle). I think they've also got just the right number/mix of characters. It lets them change things up without constantly introducing new people or wearing out and overextending their main characters. Their use of stereotypes and cliches helps them keep things familiar, but with enough surprises added in to keep it from getting overly stale.

      Like a lot of people, I was barely aware of its existence when it was still running, but I picked it up late in the game and kept watching after it was canceled. For a long time, I watched 1-2 reruns a night before bed. They've gotten tedious now, but for me to be able to rewatch them so much says something. There are very few shows that I can do that with. I can almost recite some episodes.

      The only complaints I've heard consistently are:
      1. That it's based in the future/in space, but some people just have a bias against that kind of thing. Nothing to be done about it.
      2. "It's just like the Simpsons/Family Guy/American Dad." That, of course, is a joke, with the exception of them all being [young?] adult-oriented cartoons. I find it especially funny because Futurama was already well into production by the time Family Guy was out and American Dad didn't exist at all.

      Sometimes I wish I knew what was going on in execs' heads so that I could understand why they cancel shows like Futurama, Firefly, etc. I tend to assume it's because they're considered by many to be science fiction (true or not, that's often the perception), but I don't know... Anyway, then I come to my senses and realize that I'm insane enough without adding Fox network exec thoughts to my overly-active brain.

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    29. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by operagost · · Score: 1

      You just wait... in the next episode, Peter will say, "Remember that time I wrote an episode for a Seth McFarlane show," and it will be followed by your post.

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    30. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by kramerd · · Score: 1

      Its not just recent episodes of The Simpsons in which they have left Springfield. Simpsons travel episodes happen so many times it would be difficult to count them all.

      Heres a list of places off the top of my head, and I'm starting a 1 minute timer while create it:

      England, China, Japan, Toronto, Mexico, Shelbyville, Vegas, New York City, The Super Bowl, India, Australia, Washington DC, Machu Pichu, a safari, Brazil, Italy, Alaska, France, Branson, Capitol City, Cuba, Hollywood, Florida, New Orleans, the South Pacific Islands.

      I'm sure this list doubles if I take the time to think about it.

      The comparative for Futurama, however, is that they travel through time, not space, as space travel is rendered obsolete (it isnt a point of interest to see different parts of the world in the year 3001, or whatever year its supposed to be now, due to the melting pot of multiple universes, we no longer care about what country or even planet the show is located).

    31. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      The shuffling schedule was bad enough. When that didn't kill Futurama, though, they put it on right after football. So anytime the football game ran long, they'd cancel the Futurama airing. It got to be that you didn't know when it would be on because you could never predict when the football game would end. They aired so few episodes one season that they were able to use the unaired episodes as a completely separate season. Then, with production shut down for a year, they claimed it would cost too much to start back up and make new episodes and besides the ratings were horrible anyway. (Duh. If people don't know *if* an episode is going to air, chances are they won't stick around to see if it actually does air!)

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    32. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by westlake · · Score: 1

      The key is that they don't have to spend gobs of money in an attempt to make it photorealistic.

      In animation, you spend gobs of money to avoid looking photo realistic.

      Inevitably, characters and backgrounds do not appear to belong in the same world.

      Photo realism simply doesn't work.

    33. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by soupforare · · Score: 1

      Seth McFarlane is a fucking hack who talks just to hear the sound of his own voice.

      Family Guy is more like the MASH of our generation. Will Seth get a horrible science telezine in his elder years?

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    34. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

      Please complete three Windows ME to Vista upgrades as penance.

      I think they should have to do more than merely changing desktop wallpaper.

    35. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Hell, I'll bet there's some pulp sci-fi series in nickel paperback form long ago that used the idea that the universe has an uncountable number of planets so there's an uncountable number of plot lines to keep my readers entertained and me employed.
       

      I do not think that word means what you think it means...

    36. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Did you just compare M*A*S*H to Family Guy?

    37. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by nabsltd · · Score: 1

      I'm convinced Futurama was not canceled for any reason within its power.

      Actually, it was entirely within the power of the Futurama creators (namely Matt Groening) to give Fox what they wanted to keep it on the air.

      At the time Futurama was created, Groening had much more negotiating power (based on the success of The Simpsons), and kept a bigger cut of the merchandising for him and the production company. This was the primary reason that Fox treated the show the way it did (scheduling, pre-empting, etc.).

      Because Fox wasn't making as much money, it wasn't worth as much to them for the show to succeed. This is still a pretty bitter point of contention bewteen the two sides. You'll note that unlike Family Guy, Futurama isn't airing new episodes on Fox.

    38. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      The Family Guy writers are just a bunch of manatees with a tank of word balls. What more do you expect?

    39. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by ari_j · · Score: 1

      Well, shit. I spent all that time thinking about whether it was Stumbos IV or V and forgot about the more important matter of the hover dolly's proper name. It's a good thing for me that pedant points work like golf scoring. =)

    40. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by metamatic · · Score: 1

      You just wait... in the next episode, Peter will say, "Remember that time I wrote an episode for a Seth McFarlane show," and it will be followed by your post.

      Naah, 'cause that would be hilarious.

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    41. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by dangitman · · Score: 1

      SCENE: Writers sitting around a table talking about the 80s.

      This is where you lose all credibility. Family Guy doesn't have writers, it has manatees. Everybody knows that.

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    42. Re:More Than Deserves a Second Chance by cstacy · · Score: 1

      Seth McFarlane is a fucking hack who talks just to hear the sound of his own voice.

      Actually, I believe it's been established that he is an alien who likes to suck your goobrain, and that's just how they roll.

  7. Hot Diggity Daffodil! by Darth_brooks · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's been said before and is worth repeating: The movies were 45 minutes of material crammed into 90 minutes of airtime. The 22 minute format is the best way for the series to continue.

    Now, if they can just treat the movies as non-canon, all will be right with the world. New Futurama is always welcome.

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    1. Re:Hot Diggity Daffodil! by RealErmine · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Now, if they can just treat the movies as non-canon

      Seriously? I love the show, but it's a cartoon. It's not exactly a coherent work of fiction.

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    2. Re:Hot Diggity Daffodil! by Scrameustache · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Now, if they can just treat the movies as non-canon, all will be right with the world. New Futurama is always welcome.

      The end of Green Yonder has them SPOILER move into another universe /SPOILER, with just the ship and crew.
      They can therefore ignore pretty much everything done before.

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    3. Re:Hot Diggity Daffodil! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not true. At the end of the Green Yonder they enter a wormhole not knowing where it will take them.

      It could deposit them anywhere, including exactly where they started.

    4. Re:Hot Diggity Daffodil! by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      I love the show, but it's a TV show. It's not exactly a coherent work of fiction.

      Fixed that for you. There's no reason a cartoon can't be a coherent work of fiction. On the other hand, there's all sorts of obstacles to any TV show being coherent over the long term.

    5. Re:Hot Diggity Daffodil! by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 1

      You can't take the sky from me...

      But the Feds most definitely can.

    6. Re:Hot Diggity Daffodil! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now, if they can just treat the movies as non-canon, all will be right with the world. New Futurama is always welcome.

      The end of Green Yonder has them SPOILER move into another universe /SPOILER, with just the ship and crew.
      They can therefore ignore pretty much everything done before.

      Oh please, if you're not seeing the "Zomg, the planet express crew is trapped in 2009 Old New York!" twist they're planning... well...

    7. Re:Hot Diggity Daffodil! by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Actually Futurama has been pretty damned good about that.

    8. Re:Hot Diggity Daffodil! by xonar · · Score: 1

      I usually assume this for many series'.

    9. Re:Hot Diggity Daffodil! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For as much as I have noticed Futurama has about as much canon, as maybe The Simpsons. I am pretty sure the number of things that actually change over the span could be counted on one hand.

    10. Re:Hot Diggity Daffodil! by mrdoogee · · Score: 1

      Good News Everyone!

      That wormhole transported us back to before Benders Big Score and erased everyone's memories!

    11. Re:Hot Diggity Daffodil! by RasputinAXP · · Score: 1

      Nibbler's shadow in the first episode, for example.

    12. Re:Hot Diggity Daffodil! by n4f · · Score: 1

      Who really cares about what is or is not canon in Futurama? It's a comedy show, and the writers have already admitted that when it comes to contradicting their "universe" for the sake of a good joke, they will indeed do so. Just watch the show, don't think about it too much, and enjoy.

      The writers have never ceased to amuse me with their subtlety. The don't reference the whole dark matter issue the entire Green Yonder movie, until that one-liner right at the end that had me spitting my beer out. You have to trust that these writers have the plots play out the way they do for a reason.

    13. Re:Hot Diggity Daffodil! by chromatic · · Score: 1

      It's in the DVD version, but was it in the version originally aired? I wish I had a videotape of that.

    14. Re:Hot Diggity Daffodil! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously you sir don't watch anime.

      Or consider anime to be separate from cartoons.

      Either way, good day sir.

    15. Re:Hot Diggity Daffodil! by complete+loony · · Score: 1

      Or they could resolve that plot in about 5 seconds and return to earth. It's not that big a deal.

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    16. Re:Hot Diggity Daffodil! by Kjella · · Score: 1

      They can therefore ignore pretty much everything done before.

      Uh, do you remember the episode where earth was invaded - probably the lawyer show - and it ended with the city shot to all hell and Fry commented how the trick to TV shows was that "at the end of the day, everything is back to normal". Great meta-joke, where they obviously next episode it was if it never happened.

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  8. Dear Mr. Groening by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Please don't turn Futurama into the politically correct fiasco that The Simpsons has become. I honestly fear for this show after seeing the current The Simpsons season.

  9. It's too late by Thanshin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Too much time has passed.

    The professor's probably dead by now, the kids will be all late teenagers, etc.

    In Bender's case you can always put another guy in the costume but come on! Where do they expect to find another actress with the eye mutation?

    1. Re:It's too late by Merls+the+Sneaky · · Score: 4, Funny

      We just get Kiff to give an orangutang a makeover.

    2. Re:It's too late by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      Where do they expect to find another actress with the eye mutation?

      What they oughta do is find a good actress with two eyes, then poke one out. That'd be a timesaver.

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    3. Re:It's too late by mrdoogee · · Score: 1

      You'd trade that beautiful woman for a moderately attractive ape?

    4. Re:It's too late by naoursla · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It would be hilarious if the first episode of the relaunch had all of the characters drawn as if they were many years old trying to play the part of their younger counterparts. Also, maybe there would be a new kid who was added to freshen things up. He would supposedly be around Fry's age, but the 'actor' would be 30 years younger. Their mission would end up restoring the glory days.

  10. Can Futurama unjump the shark? by Ed+Avis · · Score: 0, Troll

    The important question is, who have they got down to write these new episodes? The funny, sharp writers who made the show so good in seasons 1 and 2? Or will they resort again to the lazy dimwits who made series 3 and 4 a disappointment?

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    1. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by Volante3192 · · Score: 5, Informative

      3 and 4 disappointments? Leela's Homeworld, Jurassic Bark, The Why of Fry, Roswell that Ends Well, Godfellas, The Sting, The Farnsworth Paradox... plenty of episodes in those seasons that make them worthwhile...and I could probably come up with more if I had an episode list handy.

    2. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by all_the_names_are_ta · · Score: 4, Informative

      Series four gave us The Farnsworth Parabox, The Sting, 300 Big Boys and The Devils Hands are Idle Playthings, all of which were awesome.

      Also, more importantly, which writers dropped off the show in seasons three and four that you think were funny and sharp? Given the writers credits in Wikipedia suggest that almost all contributors in the first two seasons wrote episodes in three and four I'm not really sure who you're referring to:

      List of Futurama episodes with writers

    3. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Jurassic Bark is one of the best episodes to ever have been shown on TV.
      I can barely think about it without getting teary-eyed.

    4. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed, Ed Avis is trolling unless he backs up the statement that 3 & 4 were bad. From Wikipedia here are some more to add to your list: "Amazon Women in the Mood", "Parasites Lost", "A Tale of Two Santas", "The Luck of the Fryrish", "The Day the Earth Stood Stupid", "Insane in the Mainframe", "Time Keeps on Slippin'", "Anthology of Interest II", "Godfellas", "Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles", "The Why of Fry", "Three Hundred Big Boys"

    5. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Ed Avis merely is employing the "that show used to be cool but it has gone downhill since season one" mentality that is not only fashionable these days but also gives you street cred. That's all he's doing and nothing more.

    6. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by je+ne+sais+quoi · · Score: 1

      I just recently watched all the episodes straight through, I agree that there were some great episodes in the later half, but there were also a couple of episodes that I watched later on that were just really, really tedious. Usually the ones with the kids in it, e.g. "The Route of All Evil" was possibly the most irritating thing I have watched in recent memory. It's not outside the realm of probability that that particular episode was created through interference by Fox to create a show that appealed more to children though. I'm willing to forgive and forget though, especially since some of the later episodes were really good.

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    7. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by brainstyle · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Farnsworth Paradox

      Actually, it's The Farnsworth Parabox. It had boxes! And a PAIR of them! HA! And then there were more than two boxes, but let's forget about that for the moment.

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    8. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by Volante3192 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but that one also had Bender becoming a microbrew. Six of one, half dozen of the other.

      Plus, it's not like *every* episode can be a smash. I'm sure there's some in 1 & 2 that aren't exactly fondly remembered.

    9. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by relguj9 · · Score: 1

      I think I cried at the end of Jurassic Bark.

    10. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by krakelohm · · Score: 1

      I hear ya on that one, I just have to delete it right off the ol Tivo when it shows up because its such an emotional episode.

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    11. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by sexconker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      DON'T MENTION JURASSIC BARK.

    12. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Street cred?
      I think you mean local series of tube cred.

    13. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by spidercoz · · Score: 1

      too bad Bender's Big Score pretty much ruins all that ep's resonance

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    14. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by spidercoz · · Score: 1

      I'm thinking Benderbrau if it's an ale, Bottweiser if it's a lager

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    15. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Man, Jurassic bark was hilarious. Especially the ending

    16. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by spidercoz · · Score: 1

      Lest ye forget "Where No Fan Has Gone Before"

      Robots don't say "ye"

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    17. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by spidercoz · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure if you said something like that on the street, most people would look at you like "WTF are you talking about? Go away."

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    18. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by mrdoogee · · Score: 1

      I hope its a lager so I cant take it to blernsball games!

    19. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by mrdoogee · · Score: 1

      I'll show ye.

    20. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by businessnerd · · Score: 1

      Who didn't cry at the end of that one!? I get a little misty just thinking about it.

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    21. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... and I could probably come up with more if I had an episode list handy.

      Here's one.

    22. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by Ed+Avis · · Score: 1

      They had good episodes, it's just I felt the quality of the writing and the jokes were just a bit... meh. I particularly remember the 'Leela's Homeworld' episode as being boring, followed by 'The Sting' (both season 4). Perhaps I am reading too much into it but I definitely felt a sharp dropoff going from season 2 to 3 in the boxed set.

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    23. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by Exatron · · Score: 1

      Unless the episode caused you to experience memory loss, that's impossible. Jurassic Bark is still just the same as it was, as are the feelings you experienced while watching it.

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    24. Re:Can Futurama unjump the shark? by spidercoz · · Score: 1

      watch that ep again after having seen Bender's Big Score, is it as emotional? Does it have the same impact it did originally? No, it doesn't, because you know the damn dog wasn't just sitting there for 10 years waiting for Fry to come back. Jesus christ do I have to explain everything?

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  11. Not true, this is a result of ratings by geekoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For some odd reason, they had only been looking at DVR rating in three day blocks. Some smart person decided, hey, why not 5 day blocks so we can look at the weekend.

    Lo and behold, a lot of people in this demographic watch the shows at odd times during the weekends.
    This is why despite low Nielson rating Dollhouse was renewed.

    I suspect a couple of things are being learned right now.
    1) People like to watch on their own terms.
    2) Ad skipping isn't as bad as they had thought.

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    1. Re:Not true, this is a result of ratings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually you really have to call into question how tv ratings are put together. Sarah Connor being cancelled is an example.

    2. Re:Not true, this is a result of ratings by Sobrique · · Score: 1

      Sadly it's because Sarah Connor Chronicles weren't actually very good until about the last few episodes or so. The whole preceding two seasons were really rather weak as a whole.

    3. Re:Not true, this is a result of ratings by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Sadly?
      Until?

      That show is shit.
      The only reason it exists is because of that girl from Firefly.

      It completely shits on the Terminator story.

    4. Re:Not true, this is a result of ratings by geekoid · · Score: 1

      It's becasue it brings to light the big glaring holes in the terminator series every week.

      If you cans end a machine back in time wrapped in flesh, then you sure as hell can bring a gun back, or a trans port, or a replica of the AI.

      Not to mention sending a bot back 10 minutes before John smashes the core.

      There where a few nice touchs in the episodes I did watch. When there is a fire fight and she hides behind a chair. Then when the investigator show up they mention that they chair had been armored. Brilliant.
      But not enough to overcome the holes and the 'But mom I WANT to do my bot.' angst of the show.

      That said, it no bigger a shit then terminator 3.

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    5. Re:Not true, this is a result of ratings by bertoelcon · · Score: 1

      A story of time traveling robots, really should not be any good because time travel always screws up a storyline because no one can do it without making really bad paradoxes.

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    6. Re:Not true, this is a result of ratings by sexconker · · Score: 2, Informative

      It takes MASSIVE amounts of energy to send things back through time. You can't just send things or people willy nilly. Deciding to send something or someone back is a last-ditch effort, and is tactically a very risky thing to try.

      Skynet and the machines have a much better handle on it than the humans do. It is likely that the human resistance seized time travel tech from the machines, and reverse engineered it.

      The machines decided to send the T-800 back to kill Sarah Connor, as the human resistance led by John Connor had started to turn the tide. The humans found out they did this, and rushed to send back someone to defend her.

      The goal (of Kyle Reese) in T1 was not to prevent Judgment Day, but to ensure the survival of Sarah Connor.

      In T2, the machines send back a T-1000 to kill John Connor. Having captured and reprogrammed a T-800, the human resistance sends one back to protect John Connor. Sarah attempts to prevent Judgment Day by killing Dyson (which she doesn't go through with, instead they go for Cyberdyne and the arm) after learning about the who and where of Skynet's beginnings.

      This information wasn't available to the human resistance in T1. In T2, we learn Skynet started from the busted up T-800 in T1. This information was available because the human resistance had captured Ts.

      T3 further reinforces this (even though T3 doesn't exist) because the events of T2 affect the T2->War time line, turning them into the time line we are presented with in T3.

      In T3, John Connor is told that the origins of Skynet lie in some bullshit internet AI military program, and some robots they built on the side (T3 doesn't even make an attempt to link the two massive projects. Maybe the machines and the AI are related to the same project, maybe they're just in the same installation, I dunno.).

      In T1, we don't know how Skynet started. Kyle Reese tells us as much as he (and the human resistance) know. We never see the beginning of Judgment Day based on the events of T1. At the end, we know that Judgment Day will still happen.

      In T2, the humans only learn how Skynet was started by capturing and reprogramming a T-800. T2's Skynet was started by T1's T-800 (and this was hinted at at the end of T1.) We never see the beginning of Judgment Day based on the events of T2. At the end, we think that Judgment Day has been stopped.

      In T3, the humans are again able to send back a T-800 and again have information relating to Skynet's beginnings. We see the beginning of Judgment Day this time, and learn that the origins of Skynet have shifted to the military AI bullshit thing. At the end, we know that Judgment Day has occurred and why.

      I gave T3 a chance and it was shit and it doesn't exist. I will not be seeing T4.

    7. Re:Not true, this is a result of ratings by Ifandbut · · Score: 1

      Did you even watch the first season?! While I agree the middle half of the second season sucked (whoo 3 red dots) the start and end of season 2 was insane.

    8. Re:Not true, this is a result of ratings by glarbl_blarbl · · Score: 1

      My thought was always that Sarah Conner's motto "No fate but what you make" was incomplete. It should read "There is no fate but what you make -- until time travel is involved."

      Once someone travels through time in order to change the past, it will always be inevitable that someone will travel back in time. It's a closed loop, everything else is course-correction a la Lost.

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    9. Re:Not true, this is a result of ratings by raitchison · · Score: 1

      Dude you should have put a spoiler warning in there, I haven't seen any of them and now you have ruined them for me ;)

    10. Re:Not true, this is a result of ratings by dangitman · · Score: 1

      If you cans end a machine back in time wrapped in flesh

      I want no part of your horrific human-robot sex orgy. Cans your own end, buddy.

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  12. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by MrMista_B · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Unfortunately, Dollhouse is crap. Firefly, on the other hand...

  13. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by Palshife · · Score: 5, Funny

    3. 3. HTML ordered lists already number themselves.

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  14. Front Page News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/t

  15. reboot by cstacy · · Score: 5, Funny

    This will be a reboot of Futurama with a new cast, and more action (and sex) to excite a younger more modern audience. The Planet Express spaceship's bridge will look like the Apple Store, Leela will be having a secret affair with Bender. It will be shot in realistic shakey-cam. And there will be lots of lens flare...

    1. Re:reboot by spidercoz · · Score: 1

      BE LESS BITCHY

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    2. Re:reboot by jollyreaper · · Score: 1

      This will be a reboot of Futurama with a new cast, and more action (and sex) to excite a younger more modern audience. The Planet Express spaceship's bridge will look like the Apple Store, Leela will be having a secret affair with Bender. It will be shot in realistic shakey-cam. And there will be lots of lens flare...

      You forgot the blackjack and hookers.

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    3. Re:reboot by Whyzzi · · Score: 4, Funny

      This will be a reboot of Futurama ...

      Really? I wanna see that! Lets get Dot to play Leela. Phong will play the professor (Imagine the professor with a chinese accent and speaking in riddles). Bob will have to be Fry I suppose, with like a -100 intelligence. Matrix can play Bender, AndrAIa should be Amy Wong. I think it would be fun to make Megabyte play Zapp Brannigan, and of course Hexidecimal is MoM. SCSI can be Nibbler. And just for kicks we'll have Turbo play Kiff. Lets make lil' Enzo play Kiff's & Amy's offspring...

      Of course, this is plenty open to changes...

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    4. Re:reboot by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      Well, as long as there's lens flare I guess it'll be alright

    5. Re:reboot by lucifig · · Score: 1

      And Budweiser Classic!

    6. Re:reboot by Stavr0 · · Score: 1

      Also, Zoidberg's home planet gets sucked into a black hole.

    7. Re:reboot by Volante3192 · · Score: 1

      In fact, forget the lens flares and the blackjack!

    8. Re:reboot by Kuukai · · Score: 1

      Bender would probably be Mike the TV...

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    9. Re:reboot by Kuukai · · Score: 1

      His entire species dies like every year, I don't think it would have the same impact. Though I would love to see Future Zoidberg (his friend Jesus?), voiced by Leonard Nimoy...

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  16. Dammit! by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 1, Funny

    I just finished watching every episode of that show, and thought I was done. You mean to tell me there's going to be MOAR?

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    1. Re:Dammit! by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 1

      You mean to tell me there's going to be MOAR?

      Return to 4chan whence thou came, foul beast!

  17. Now, if only they'd establish a track record... by macraig · · Score: 2, Informative

    ... for not giving up on everything else...?

  18. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by PoliticalGamer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does that mean Firefly will be back? *looks wistfully into the distance*

  19. Sounds like by atomicthumbs · · Score: 1

    Huzzahs are in order!

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  20. Yes, this show is awesome by Murdoch5 · · Score: 0

    Who cares why it's coming back, the point is it is coming back!

  21. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Funny
    1. Not on Slashdot.
    2. The CSS is messed up.
    3. Whichever idiot keeps breaking it should have been fired a long time ago.
    • Unordered lists (like this one) look the same.
    • Although, for some reason, with a different indent level.
    • Very silly, I know.
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  22. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by whiledo · · Score: 1

    When you say "not on slashdot", do you mean some other time than now? This would seem true given your "keeps breaking it" comment. But it's still a bit unclear. I note that the following code produces the proper auto-numbered result:

    <ol>
    <li>item 1
    <li>item 2
    <li>item 3
    </ol>

    1. item 1
    2. item 2
    3. item 3

    As far as the indent level goes, the left edges of the text in both lists' items line up with each other. Since the numbers with periods and the single dot take up different amounts of space, the overall left edge for the unordered one does look indented. I'm not sure which way I'd actually prefer it. The HTML spec may actually say it should be that way. In any case, it isn't slashdot, it's your browser. Just try editing a plain-jane html file with both types of lists and you'll get the same result even without slashdot's css. I find both FF3 and IE7 format it the same way.

    Perhaps this is all a browser problem? Are you still not seeing auto-numbered lists?

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  23. Let it die. by MaWeiTao · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I really like Futurama; I have all four DVD sets and the four movies. However, I think this series should rest in peace. It's over.

    The series was great and got progressively better as time went on. However, if the movies are any indication the revived series will be crap. Each movie was worse than the last. They weren't particularly creative with the stories and overall the writing overwrought and not compelling. There was so much untapped potential in the series but instead the movies degraded into pathetic, poorly executed fan service. Some jokes were quite funny but otherwise I felt like they were trying too hard to recreate Family Guy and Adult Swim's brand of humor. And probably the most obnoxious part was the constant environmentalist proselytizing. Some episodes used Al Gore and that theme to great effect but Bender's Game, in particular, was about as subtle as a sledgehammer to the crotch.

    However, I am a sucker for Futurama, so I'll definitely watch. But if it ends up being the same kind of crap I saw in the movies I wont be watching for long.

    1. Re:Let it die. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have to agree.
      Sometimes you don't want to bring something back and should just let it rest in peace. I understand that producers want to milk popular ideas until they are nothing but dried up shriveled tits but do it while it is still going strong, don't resurrect a corpse that has already been killed and left to rot.
      If you must bring something back from the dead just be prepared for it to become a Frankenstein monster that will eventually end up ripping your arms of and results in getting you linched by the local towns people(i.e. fans).
      But I guess if you can't find or create any more original ideas...

    2. Re:Let it die. by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 1

      Bender's Game wasn't about environmentalism, it just used non-renewable fuels as a plot device. Into the Wild Green Yonder, on the other hand, was definitely anvilicious.

    3. Re:Let it die. by RealGrouchy · · Score: 1

      I really like Futurama; I have all four DVD sets and the four movies. However, I think this series should rest in peace. It's over.

      Look, if you don't want to watch it, don't watch it. For example, I haven't seen the H2G2 movie because I don't want it to spoil the way I remember H2G2.

      But don't deprive the rest of us from seeing what we want to see. It might turn out to be really good, and I think that's a good chance to take.

      - RG>

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    4. Re:Let it die. by freakshowsam · · Score: 1

      What about all the gambling, booze, and hooker jokes?

    5. Re:Let it die. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What you're really saying is that you think that the show belongs to your child hood. Watching new episodes of Futurama reminds you of happier days in your life, which you feel has been lost forever.

  24. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tomorrow, you're going to be kidnapped, have your memory erased, and be used as an Active.

  25. No more suicide for me. by orsty3001 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Over the past 15 years I've watched as my life become harder to live due to a series of set backs that are out of my control. I sat down and reasoned out suicide as being the best solution to my permanent problems. Now that Futurama is coming back on TV I figured that I should just sit around until it goes off the air again. I hope it's as good as it used to be.

    1. Re:No more suicide for me. by oldhack · · Score: 1

      Yeah, might as well, right? I mean, like, what're you gonna do, eh.

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    2. Re:No more suicide for me. by spidercoz · · Score: 1

      So you're 15? Even if not, guess what pal, that's what life IS, a series of setbacks out of your control. If you're not funky enough to be a Globetrotter, deal with it.

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    3. Re:No more suicide for me. by Lord+Ender · · Score: 1

      Make sure you try drugs, travel, a cult or two, and organized crime before you decide to step once more into the suicide booth.

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    4. Re:No more suicide for me. by 4D6963 · · Score: 1

      +1, Sad

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    5. Re:No more suicide for me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're going to commit suicide, try for a two-fer with the quarter tied to your finger. You'll also want slow and painful, and probably want to upgrade to gouge out your eyes too.

    6. Re:No more suicide for me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hard to know if you're just some sort of messed up troll or what. Looking at your previous comments there's certainly a lot of dark humor there at the very least. Anyway, as someone who has been mildly depressed himself (spontaneous blubering, I feel so hopeless blah blah) if you've seen this coming for the last 15 years you don't sound so bad. Take some time off, figure out what's really depressing you (assuming it is external factors) and have a go at fixing them, or reevaluating their significance at least. You can always put yourself out of our misery next year.

  26. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by sexconker · · Score: 1

    Correct.
    Dollhouse is shit.

    Firefly is also shit. It was good the first time through, but the ending and the movie completely fucked it over so much that I can't go and rewatch it. It's just so bad.

  27. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Huh. Now my post shows numbers for the ol and round bullets for the ul. When I posted it, it showed just L shapes for both. Maybe someone saw my post and fixed the CSS. Either that, or it's a massive coincidence since it's been broken for several weeks (months?) and was fixed within two hours of my post...

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  28. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I suspect that you've got some extension overriding the CSS, because in my version of FF3 your post makes you look pretty foolish. What is with those carriage return looking bullet points, anyway?

  29. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by geekoid · · Score: 1

    I like Dollhouse.

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  30. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 2

    By the way, am I the only person who thinks that Alan Tudyk deserves to be the real star of "Dollhouse"? In two episodes he out-acted Eliza Dushku's entire season.

  31. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ratings may not be the end-all-be-all, but the viewing audience still IS the end-all-be-all of tv shows. People are still not going to sit their butts on the sofa and sit through this show during the CC airing. Unless they decide to scrap prime time showings and go direct to DVD this is doomed to fail yet again.

  32. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by mcgrew · · Score: 1

    No, it wasn't ratings. They just read my NSFW slashdot journals and found out that they got it all wrong. Leila's my daughter - first, they spelled her name wrong. Second, they got the wrong daughter; it isn't Leila but Patty. Third, it isn't that Patty has only one eye, she has both of them. It's her kidney that's missing.

    And my robot does NOT say "bite my shiny metal ass." It's the cat, she says "GTFO my tail!"

  33. Rough Draft Studios Rocks! by billybob_jcv · · Score: 1

    Big fan of Scott & Greg Vanzo, Peter Avanzino, Claudia Katz and the rest of the crew! http://www.roughdraftstudios.com/

  34. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by Rei · · Score: 1

    but the ending and the movie completely fucked it over so much that I can't go and rewatch it. It's just so bad.

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  35. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by whiledo · · Score: 1

    Yes, it's all those "extensions" I have installed in IE7, eh?

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  36. Has to be done... by scratchpaper · · Score: 2, Funny

    Good News Everyone!

  37. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by whiledo · · Score: 1

    Could be that they fixed the numbers/bullet points. Another AC said "What is with those carriage return looking bullet points, anyway?" What about the indent? Was the explanation what I said?

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  38. You have selected "Slow and Horrible" by Slightly+Askew · · Score: 1

    Good choice.

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    1. Re:You have selected "Slow and Horrible" by vodevil · · Score: 1

      Find somebody else who's having a bad life and go for a two-fer!

  39. Mod parent up! by 4D6963 · · Score: 1

    For it is insightful.

    You consistently hear that a show's first seasons were better than the latest seasons, be it Family Guy/the Simpsons/House/Sarah Connor/etc.. when when you look at it the first episodes weren't all that great and the latest episodes aren't all that bad. I suppose it falls in the same category of behaviours as "back in my day, music was good".

    The only show I can think of you can call out for having turned bad is South Park, between the 5th and 10th season it changed so radically you can either think that the first few seasons were awesome and the last few seasons are the gayest most unwatchable piece of televisual shit you've ever seen, or you can like it for the systematic bashing of just about anyone and parody of just about any show/movie seasoned with a generous dose of cynical libertarian agenda and think it's better than ever.

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    1. Re:Mod parent up! by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      You consistently hear that a show's first seasons were better than the latest seasons, be it Family Guy/the Simpsons/House/Sarah Connor/etc.. when when you look at it the first episodes weren't all that great and the latest episodes aren't all that bad. I suppose it falls in the same category of behaviours as "back in my day, music was good".

      A good counterexample would be Star Trek: The Next Generation. Watch stuff from the first season, and you wonder how Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner ever got hired for anything.

  40. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by mrdoogee · · Score: 1

    Well, since he turned out to be who he turned out to be, I'm sure we'll end up seeing him at least 3 times a season. (premiere, sweeps, finale)

  41. Kinda forgot about CC... by IlluminatedOne · · Score: 0

    Since the only show they offer that I know and/or care about seeing is South Park and I watch that online cuz the wife HATES it, I kinda forgot about Comedy Central. I think the main reason really is that they are not offered in HD around here (FIOS). Do many of you have it available in HD? I very rarely scan through the non-HD offerings...

    1. Re:Kinda forgot about CC... by mrdoogee · · Score: 1

      I get Comedy Central HD on DirecTV.

  42. Best news I've read all day... by WagonWheelsRX8 · · Score: 1

    Yeah that's pretty much it...seen a lot of junk and to read a show that I still enjoy watching is going to get a few extra seasons makes for a good day.

  43. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by RasputinAXP · · Score: 1

    Also, I can kill you with my brain.

  44. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by glennpratt · · Score: 1

    Well someone fixed it before you posted. I viewed your post while the old CSS was still cached, which made your post seem pretty silly.

    After a refresh it is indeed numbered and the GP post is lined up correctly.

  45. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The problem there is that Dollhouse sucks.

  46. BENDER SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED ON TELEVISION (n/t) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    blah blah blah. and furthermore blah blah. Blah? Nah. Blah blah dah bah pah rah tah.

  47. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by moderatorrater · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'll have to disagree with you there. In my opinion the final half of the season was easily some of the best Whedon I've ever seen. The first half was crap, but it was worth it to get to the second half.

  48. Great now just re-animate by JimboFBX · · Score: 1

    Mystery Science Theater 3000

    Except do it in the form of ICWXP (www.icwxp.com). I can't say I've been happy with the quality of rifftrax lately and I doubt the old writing team and rifftrax are going to join forces... At least ICWXP has their act together.

  49. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by atraintocry · · Score: 1

    I only see the L-shapes, all the time. And lately I've had no color at the top of the reply box. Oh, Slashdot.

  50. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by Tokerat · · Score: 1

    Except the show isn't coming back to Fox. Comedy Central ordered the episodes. 20th Television, although owned by News Corp, is a separate entity from the Fox broadcast network, and they also produce content for NBC, ABC, and CBS, among others.

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  51. Great news everyone! by yoshi_mon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One of the things that was cool about Futurama was it broke the Simpsons 'family animated sitcom' mold. Giving it a different feel and of course many different options for the writers.

    Since there is always the comparison to Family Guy keep in mind that Family Guy was just another family animated sitcom. In fact many people have gone far out of their way to point this out as if other non-animated sitcoms have not been doing the same thing for many years. We just had virtually no other points of reference when looking at prime time animation.

    As an example look at American Dad. It's a family animated sitcom but it changes up the: dad is fat and does wacky stuff all the time, mom is very well intentioned and ignores all the flaws of her dysfunctional family, kids do stuff, blah blah. Instead, due to some...suggestions...from Fox they made the dad a wacky wing-nut, the mother a blond ditz wing-nut enabler, and the kids who do stuff with the added fact that like the Simpsons the girl is the token left wing voice. (And I don't want to get into the politics of American Dad but there is plenty more to be said about it's dynamic but that is beyond the scope of what I'm trying to say here. Suffice to say I find it hilarious how they have left politics alone in S4.)

    The uniqueness of Futurama's sitcom environment made it very open and different than the other 3 prime time family centered ones. We can all only hope that the writers working on it's return will embrace that as well as the original ones did.

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  52. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by nabsltd · · Score: 1

    Thinking like this is what saved Dollhouse.

    No, the fire-sale slashing of the price that the Fox network had to pay for the next season saved it.

    Basically, at a low enough price point, a network will show anything..."reality" shows are proof of that.

  53. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by osu-neko · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I watched the first couple episodes and stopped. Finally, over a month later and after a couple of episodes had already expired on Hulu, and another was about to expire, I decided to watch it and found it was actually good. And they got better after that. The problem is, I expect most people watched the first couple of episodes and stopped before the show actually started any signs at all of being any good. It's actually quite good, but it takes a while to get there...

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  54. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by osu-neko · · Score: 1

    One thing I've noticed is the "preview" option here appears to use a different stylesheet than the actual post. "Preview" basically tells you how you post isn't going to look, you just kinda have to imagine what it will look like based on past experience...

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  55. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

    It looked like that in preview and after I submitted. Oddly enough, it now looks correct, as does the top post (I now see 1. 1. in all of the list items) but posts in other articles are showing the L still. I wonder if it's a stylesheet cached somewhere, but not for this article (somehow) or if it's not fixed in some of the Slashdot sections.

    I've recently also started intermittently seeing something that looks like the divider between the 'Full' and 'Abbreviated' bits of the floating bar on the left being drawn over peoples' comments too. I don't know who is doing the site design, but they really should find a new job.

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  56. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by Tamran · · Score: 0

    Correct.
    Dollhouse is shit.

    Agree! I tried to give it a chance but after watch 4 episodes, it just felt like a weak re-hashing of the Buffy formula (which was juvenile at best).

    Firefly is also shit. It was good the first time through, but the ending and the movie completely fucked it over so much that I can't go and rewatch it. It's just so bad.

    (partially) Disagree! The series really had no "ending" it just stopped. The series IMHO was definitely a contender for the best Sci-Fi show on TV ever (in that category would be the new BSG and STNG). I've re-watched the series with friends and family and consistently they are impressed. The movie was not so good for a movie and did fuck up a few things I agree. The "reaver history" card seemed like a card that was supposed to be pulled out in a 3rd or 4th season but was forced in the movie. That said, Fox messed up the series far more than the movie did.

    If Firefly was re-introduced to TV I'd watch it.

  57. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

    Firefly is also shit. It was good the first time through, but the ending and the movie completely fucked it over so much that I can't go and rewatch it. It's just so bad.

    What ending? I haven't watched through the DVD's repeatedly, but I don't recall an ending, especially considering the show was canceled rather abruptly. I thought Serenity was really good, though it was a bit of a fuck-you to the people who were hoping for a series revival.

  58. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by ArcherB · · Score: 1

    By the way, am I the only person who thinks that Alan Tudyk deserves to be the real star of "Dollhouse"? In two episodes he out-acted Eliza Dushku's entire season.

    You watch Dollhouse for the acting?

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  59. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

    If I view your post in its own page, the lists show up correctly, but as part of the main page, I just get the L images that are used for comment nesting. My guess is that it's because the CSS has quite a few instances of ul li, which of course matches list items that have an li tag somewhere far up the tree, and it's overriding the ol li styles.

  60. I have always wondered... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does the chick with one eye have an extra hole to make up for it?

  61. More quotes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Huh. Did everything just taste purple for a second?"
    - Fry, Futurama

    "Why am I sticky and naked? Did I miss something fun?"
    - Fry, Futurama

    "Now that's a wave of destruction that's easy on the eyes!"
    - Zapp Brannigan, Futurama

    "I am the man with no name. Zap Brannigan at your service."
    - Zapp Brannigan, Futurama

    More here:
    http://www.quoteaddict.com/quotes.php?search=futurama

  62. This is news? by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

    And this is news worthy because.....?

  63. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by whiledo · · Score: 1

    Works the same either way I view it, in FF or IE. As mentioned above, it's probably pulling your CSS from a cache from before they fixed it.

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  64. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by Mex · · Score: 1

    I'll have to disagree with you there. In my opinion the final half of the season was easily some of the best Whedon I've ever seen. The first half was crap, but it was worth it to get to the second half.

    It might have been, but Firefly was still much better!

  65. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by sexconker · · Score: 1

    Exactly. The "ending" was just OMG RIVER'S CRAZY and OMG CONSPIRACY. And Serenity was trash. Just more Joss Whedon hard-on for thin, blank girls with super powers.

  66. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by jessjesseeee · · Score: 1

    I still see the L shapes.

  67. Hope they're better than the movies.... by otis+wildflower · · Score: 1

    Having seen at least 2 of the movies (Bender's Big Score and the Beast with a Billion Backs), I'd say that any 4 random classic Futurama episodes put together gave me more laughs and pleasure than the movies did. Perhaps Futurama doesn't scale, so I've got hopes that these eps represent a return to classic form...

    1. Re:Hope they're better than the movies.... by Narcogen · · Score: 1

      I honestly don't know what beef people have with the movies. Every complaint I read is extremely vague, usually on the lines of "didn't work in movie format" or "would have been better as episodes".

      Frankly it always seemed to me like it was structured like episodes, one after the other. I also thought they were all fairly good, although "Bender's Game" was considerably weaker than the other three and "Beast With A Billion Backs" is a bit slow to get going.

      The first one I thought was great and so was the last; of them, only the first stands out as different in tone and content from the series because of how seriously it takes itself.

      So beyond length, what problem to people have with the movies?

  68. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 1

    It's sci-fi. If I watched it for the acting I'd be crazy as Alan Tudyk's character.

    Well OK, not quite that crazy. I still only have the one personality, but I'm looking for a little nuance here. Can I not like it when a sci-fi show ends up having really good acting?

  69. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by spidercoz · · Score: 1

    People have been conditioned to make snap judgments about things with little to no information these days. Nobody appreciates subtlety or the nuance of story-building anymore. They all want to be hit with it instantly like a brick to the face. And it better match their preconceived notions or fuck off.

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  70. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by pluther · · Score: 1

    Also, we applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural response from either patient.

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  71. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by gad_zuki! · · Score: 1

    Actually, ratings do matter. All that matters is ratings, but you cant keep pre-empting the show with football and who knows what else. Pre-tivo people needed a set time to tune in. They didnt get it often enough with futurama and Fox pretty much pissed away its potential.

  72. I can't wait! by rehtonAesoohC · · Score: 1

    You know, I bet they used some Torgo Executive Powder on the ratings people...

  73. Why Futurama is different (and better) by xx01dk · · Score: 1

    It's the nerd humor. My all time fav is the one where it starts out with Nibbler drinking an entire swimming pool and then burping out the resultant chlorine gas. Everyone drops to the ground, knocked out by the poison gas, and Bender is left there laughing at the plight of the "meatbags" until he goes (with classic comic timing): "Oh wait, chlorine..." and then is nearly immediately covered in rust and succumbs as well. Oh wait, found it! http://www.hulu.com/watch/65768/futurama-chlorine The best, imho. Followed closely by the Asteroids episode. *chuckle*

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  74. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And now it's back to L-shape

  75. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by dword · · Score: 1

    Welcome to Slashdot. I mean... What the fuck? You may say Dollhouse is crap (and I can't disagree, because I haven't seen it) but you get modded Insightful for such a comment? You should either got modded as Interesting. This is your own personal opinion - and maybe most Slashdotters have the same opinion, but it's an opinion. I can prove that Dollhouse was not crap because it was a movie. If it were a crap, it would have been in the toilet, literally and you would have gotten modded Informative. I know this is completely off-topic, but come on, mods, what the fuck? The parent was more like a Troll comment, but because Slashdot agrees with it doesn't make it Insightful. This has everything to do with personal taste and nothing to do with objectivity. It even bashes the show judging it by personal taste and forgets that someone actually liked it and believed in it. Unless it's common sense to say that the show completely sucked and there wasn't one rational person to find it worth watching, this was a bad mod day for Slashdot and a bad mood day for me.

    Bye-bye, karma!

  76. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by bemymonkey · · Score: 1

    Still shows the weird L-shapes over here. Not to mention parts of the D2 threshold setting thing that's usually on the left of the screen being stuck in your post...

  77. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

    The workaround that I've been using for the past fucking week goddammit Slashdot fix yer shit is this: click any comment (like the #28282375), then click the story link at the top of the comment page.

    The white goes away and you can read the comment header, and those stupid boxes go away too. Don't try adblocking the image with the boxes because it's a composite image and that will break all of the goofy CSS, it looked a lot worse until I figured out how to unblock.

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  78. Re:Sounds like Fox has finally got its act togethe by AP31R0N · · Score: 1

    Firefly was crap. Dollhouse on the other hand.... (you missed a dot)

    See, i can express subjective opinions as if they were scientific facts too!

    What else do you like that i can shit on?

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  79. Ellipsis by ebolaZaireRules · · Score: 1

    Actually... you ADDED a dot.
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Ellipsis&l=1

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