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Apple Patent To Safeguard 911 Cellphone Calls

MojoKid writes "Engineers from Apple have applied for a patent on an 'emergency' mode for cell phones that would squeeze every last drop of energy out of the batteries. The phone would recognize emergency calls when the user dialed an emergency number, such as 911 in the United States. But another number could also be stored as an 'emergency number' on the phone (a spouse, child, or parent, for example) or the user could manually put the phone in emergency mode. The process would do a variety of things. It would disable 'non-essential hardware components' and applications on the phone, reduce power to the screen and potentially reduce the phone's processor speed. It also would make it harder to disconnect the call and enable 'emergency phrase buttons' on the phone."

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  1. Great. Just amazing. by Deltaspectre · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now when I pocket dial 911 there's even less chance of me pocket-disconnecting and more chance of my phone spouting emergency phrases!

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    1. Re:Great. Just amazing. by maxume · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A big problem for you?

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    2. Re:Great. Just amazing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, this is a problem. I've known people with non-flip style phones who have accidentally dialed 911 while the phone is in their pocket. Even if you have your keypad locked, you can still dial 911. If the keypad gets hit, bumped, or stressed in the right way while in your pocket, it can manage to dial 911 and connect you without you knowing.

      Heaven forbid that you'd find out and try to disconnect the call.

    3. Re:Great. Just amazing. by Smurf · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Mmmmm... Do you realize that pocket dialing on an iPhone is way, way harder?

      Hints: The special gesture to unlock the phone. The fact that you normally have to navigate to the phone app and the numeric keypad (easy when you intend to, hard too do by accident. And, specially, the fact that the touch screen doesn't work through cloth.

    4. Re:Great. Just amazing. by maxume · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It takes special talent to do it with a normal phone. I mean, shocker of all shockers, I carried a candy bar phone for a couple of years and never accidentally dialed, let alone accidentally dialed 911.

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    5. Re:Great. Just amazing. by Lachlan+Hunt · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I accidentally dialed 000 (the emergency number in Australia) once on an old phone of mine because the phone allowed emergency numbers to be called without unlocking the keypad. I thought that was a really stupid feature, because it increases the chances of dialiing it accidentally and when it does happen, it just wastes the time of the emergency response staff who could be dealing with real emergencies instead.

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    6. Re:Great. Just amazing. by Debug0x2a · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've done it myself, I have a Blackberry pearl 8150 (I think). It's not hard to do, if I press a button while the phone is locked it pops up a menu to either unlock, dial emergency, or cancel. So in order to make an emergency call, I have to hit a button on the phone (any button) twice, once to de-idle it and once to bring up the menu, then the little ball chunk needs to be scrolled down to highlight the second choice, then either the ball or call button gets pressed. I got a phone call from a number that had about 16 digits that came from the local P.D. asking if there was an emergency and telling me to reset my phone.

      I don't know how the iPhone works, but you don't have to unlock my phone to make an emergency call, that's the one thing it will do if the phone is locked.

      Basically same story from me, however I figured out (the hard way) that on many phones dialing 08 is an emergency call to 911. Why... beats me. Its very easy to accidently hit 2 adjacent numbers at the bottom of my phone in sequence and then hit the largest button on the phone (the dial button) afterwards and not notice until you get an irate call from a dispatcher...

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    7. Re:Great. Just amazing. by The+Qube · · Score: 4, Informative

      > One of those is 121 (or maybe it was 211)

      You're thinking of 112. That is a standard emergency number for GSM mobile networks. Anywhere in the world, if you dial that number on a GSM mobile phone, you will be connected to the local emergency service. Also, mobile phones recognise that number as the emergency number and will automatically route the call through any available GSM network (even if your own mobile network is out of coverage). Also, the calls are obviously not charged, can be made when you don't have any credit left on your pre-paid account and can even be made if there's no SIM card in the phone.

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    8. Re:Great. Just amazing. by ColaMan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      000 is the emergency number in Australia, and it's quite easy to dial it in a pocket.

      There's been more than one occasion where I've checked the phone and it has "000" and "SEND" under the very large, central softkey. I always thought keylocks were there to, you know, lock the keys. Don't give me that crap about, "OMG ITS AN EMERGENCY YOU WONT HAVE TIME TO UNLOCK A PHONE" , just lock the damn keys like I told you to.

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  2. Not too bad.. by log0n · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually doesn't seem like that bad of an idea for a patent. Granted the system is full of abuse, but at least this one is well intentioned and could save a life.

    1. Re:Not too bad.. by GrpA · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You mean only save the lives of iPhone users... Everyone who chooses a different phone will be punished to death for their arrogance...

      Sadly, this scenario seems more likely IMO given Apple.

      After all, if they intended to patent it "to stop others blocking it" they could just as easily have made it into prior art and it would have been cheaper to do.

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    2. Re:Not too bad.. by MLCT · · Score: 5, Insightful

      but at least this one is well intentioned and could save a life.

      Not if phone manufacturers are dissuaded from adding this feature because they would either have to pay Apple royalties or risk being sued by them. In that case the fact that it has been patented may actually cost lives.

      If Apple came out and guaranteed royalty free licensing for all then it would be a positive move for society.

    3. Re:Not too bad.. by vux984 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not if phone manufacturers are dissuaded from adding this feature because they would either have to pay Apple royalties or risk being sued by them. In that case the fact that it has been patented may actually cost lives.

      The obvious counter argument is that it wouldn't have been worked on in the first place because it would have given them no competitive advantage without the patent, so the 'life saving feature' would never have been developed, and those "lives would not have saved".

    4. Re:Not too bad.. by hedwards · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The obvious argument is that we've had phones that do that, they've just gone out of favor as cell phone companies have largely stopped releasing basic phones.

      With the added bonus of not having to pay patent ransom or waste battery with bullshit functions you didn't really want in the first place.

    5. Re:Not too bad.. by whisper_jeff · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I doubt they'll grant royalty free use but I do suspect they'll assure competitors "you don't get twitchy with your patent portfolio and we won't get twitchy with ours." Sorta like most major companies already do - using patents as defense against other company's patents...

    6. Re:Not too bad.. by YourExperiment · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Worked on"? While it's easy to say this with hindsight, all of the ideas that make up this "emergency mode" are pretty obvious. It did not require anyone to "work on" them. The patent covers the fact that the phone will do these things (the easy part), not the technical details of how it will do them (the hard part).

      I have no objection to Apple protecting the hardware and software that allows their phone to do these things. I object to them being able to stop others from implementing these obvious ideas without paying royalties, and thereby ensuring that less phones will have these features in the long run than would otherwise be the case.

    7. Re:Not too bad.. by rpopescu · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So, like, if you've been injured, the first thing you do before calling 911 is changing the battery in your mobile. Also, your non-Apple phone allows you, like all phones which are not made by Apple of course, to replace the battery during the call, should you notice you're battery's running out...

    8. Re:Not too bad.. by DannyO152 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think this is a sensible idea - it is software as is any process where a program assesses a situation, so it shouldn't be patentable in my opinion - and I hope that this is being patented defensively and will be implemented widely.

    9. Re:Not too bad.. by vux984 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The obvious argument is that we've had phones that do that, they've just gone out of favor as cell phone companies have largely stopped releasing basic phones.

      Those aren't affected because they don't violate the patent. The patent covers shutting down extraneous features, not 'not having them to begin with'.

      With the added bonus of not having to pay patent ransom or waste battery with bullshit functions you didn't really want in the first place.

      So buy one of those phones then, if you want one. They are still out there.

    10. Re:Not too bad.. by kelzer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There are plenty of patents related to automobile airbags. Hasn't stopped them from becoming pervasive.

      These days patents aren't about differentiating your product, they're about protecting yourself from infringement charges from others through cross-licensing agreements. The bigger your patent portfolio, the more leverage you have.

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    11. Re:Not too bad.. by Theaetetus · · Score: 4, Informative

      After all, if they intended to patent it "to stop others blocking it" they could just as easily have made it into prior art and it would have been cheaper to do.

      (Not that Apple is using this as a defensive measure, but if they were...) what's the easiest way to "make it into prior art"? And before you say "publish it", what's the easiest way to make it into prior art that the USPTO will be guaranteed to search? Easiest way is to file a nonprovisional application, let the USPTO publish it, and then abandon the app. Examiners always search the USPTO database for prior art... They don't always search other journals. So, while publishing it would help Apple invalidate a patent on this if someone else got the patent and sued for infringement, they would still have to go to court and fight an uphill battle - granted patents are presumed valid.

      So, other than a Statutory Invention Registration, the next best way to get something to be guaranteed prior art against anyone else is to file a nonprovisional and let the PTO publish.

    12. Re:Not too bad.. by TheSambassador · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Just because Apple has a patent on it, it doesn't mean that other phones won't have it. They may have to pay royalties, but most things on cell phones are patented.

      They're not going to be "punished to death for their arrogance," if their phone didn't have it then they're in the same situation as everybody right now, and probably most of the people with phones. This is an extra feature... if people want it, they can buy phones with it.

      I don't think see most people using this as an "emergency" such as a life-threatening situation. I see people using this as an "emergency" as in they're wasted and their phone is dead and they need to call for somebody to pick them up, or the "emergency" of being bored with a dead phone.

    13. Re:Not too bad.. by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You mean only save the lives of iPhone users... Everyone who chooses a different phone will be punished to death for their arrogance...

      Ah, but we can't assume that such measures would exist without apple. If not having this does so much damage, perhaps we should be thankful that it exists at all, that we even have an option of using it.

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    14. Re:Not too bad.. by skroops · · Score: 2, Informative

      If Apple came out and guaranteed royalty free licensing for all then it would be a positive move for society.

      Are you serious? Why would apple invest time and money in developing a technology only to give it away for free? The entire submission is a troll. There are literally thousands of patents on 911 technologies. Just because 911 is a public service doesn't mean that it exists in a vacuum of altruism; people still spend money and make money deploying and developing these technologies, so naturally there are patents. And like any other market, if it is useful and desired by the consumer, it should be profitable, and then the company that made it makes money. I know it's trendy to demonize contemporary corporations --especially when it comes to patents-- but this is how capitalism works ... this is the USA.

    15. Re:Not too bad.. by vux984 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Can I get one?

      Of course you can. Try shopping for one.

      You could buy a Motorola V180 or a C139 for example.

      no memory card slot
      no edge (high speed internet)
      no wifi
      no bluetooth
      no camera

      Granted both sport a color display, but seriously, who cares? Its not using much juice or adding to the cost. These are both available for under US$50.00 with no contract.

      I want something that can take a drop into a puddle with good call quality.

      So buy a $20 rubber waterproof case for whatever unit you settle on.

    16. Re:Not too bad.. by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Informative

      There are plenty of patents related to automobile airbags. Hasn't stopped them from becoming pervasive.

      That's because airbags have been mandatory in the US since 1999, and actually since 1990 (for the driver) in vehicles without automatic seatbelts. (which explains to me finally why my 1989 Nissan 240SX had them, when in Canada you could get normal, inoffensive manual shoulder belts.)

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    17. Re:Not too bad.. by sarahbau · · Score: 2, Informative

      Are crumple zones patented? Yes. Are seat belts patented? Yes. Just because they're patenting it, it doesn't mean they're doing so in order to sue people. Most patents are used to prevent the company from being sued.

    18. Re:Not too bad.. by Theaetetus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Prior art? How about the reserve tank on a Motorcycle? You move a lever, and you can operate the motorcycle to the nearest gas-station. I can't see this patent passing.

      So, you're saying that one skilled in the art of electronics telecommunications devices, viewing a motorcycle reserve tank, would instantly understand how to apply it to a phone?

      Anyways, no, this isn't a reserve tank. This would be closer to a multi-cylinder engine shutting down several cylinders or reducing horsepower to save fuel.

    19. Re:Not too bad.. by smbell · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Should crumple zones be patented? No. Should seat belts be patented? No.

      These aren't novel ideas. They weren't when they were created (and I question that there is a patent on seat belts, citation?). If the patent system was working correctly we should be seeing tens of patents a year rather than tens of thousands.

  3. I patent super emergency mode by sakdoctor · · Score: 3, Funny

    That would squeeze the last drop of energy out of the batteries, by stabbing them and causing a small explosion to attract help.

    1. Re:I patent super emergency mode by jo42 · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's called "smoke signal mode". I believe indigenous North American peoples have prior art on this...

  4. Screams "action movie" by Norsefire · · Score: 5, Funny

    The protagonist is being tracked using GPS locked onto their phone, they realise this and dial 911 which puts the phone into a low power state and kills the GPS signal.

    Trust me, it's a lot more exciting than just turning the phone off.

    1. Re:Screams "action movie" by mrstrano · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It might be better to keep the GPS on in situations of 'extreme' distress. Let's assume you are so sick you can't even talk. Then when you call 911 the phone might recognize you are not talking and synthetise a message saying for example 'The owner of this phone appears to be in extreme distress and at this moment the GPS says that he is at X address. Please send an ambulance at the address'.

      You could apply the same concept to action movies too. Like Jack Bauer being trapped and unable to talk that calls CIA head quarters :)

    2. Re:Screams "action movie" by PPH · · Score: 2, Funny

      Like Jack Bauer being trapped and unable to talk that calls CIA head quarters

      Also known as Kiefer Sutherland drunk dialing.

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  5. Is a Good Idea = a patent? by Teun · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I have trouble accepting this type of Good Idea needs to be patentable.

    But then, when the same institution makes computer algorithms patentable maybe I shouldn't be surprised.

    This is very much comparable to the One Click fiasco, you get a couple of desirable but common applications linked to a single action and Bingo!

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  6. save power make noise by legirons · · Score: 2, Insightful

    would "unncessary power use" include loud audible alarms?

  7. This should not be exempt from patentability by Grond · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Many posters have already suggested that this should not be patentable because it's a potentially life-saving feature. Critical reflection shows why that argument does not hold much water.

    A new treatment or cure for a fatal disease is also life-saving, but few would argue that drugs should not be patentable.

    Alternatively, consider the invention of the automatic external defibrillator. This is also a life-saving device, and much of its utility stems from software and an effective user interface (e.g., spoken commands to the user), but there are no calls to force AED technology into the public domain.

    Careful reading of the patent application shows that its essential features could be replicated on any smart phone and a subset could even be implemented on a non-smart phone. The fact that phone manufacturers have not implemented these features in the decade or so that it would have been possible to do so suggests two possibilities: One, that the features are actually not that useful or important; Two, that the features and their implementation here are actually far from obvious.

    If the former is the case, then we shouldn't care about the application because it pertains to something of such limited value that the dozens of phone manufacturers and telecom companies never saw fit to implement it. If the latter is the case, then Apple is rightly to be rewarded for developing a useful feature and, presumably, bringing it to market. Without patent protection, Apple is much less likely to invest time and effort developing new features for its products, including potentially life-saving features like this one.

    Finally, I think we should withhold our ultimate judgment until the patent is granted or denied. The examination process may turn up prior art that blocks the application entirely or it may cause the claims to be substantially narrowed. Faced with a less than optimal patent, Apple may abandon the application. This story is a bit like judging a piece of software based on an alpha version.

    1. Re:This should not be exempt from patentability by Grond · · Score: 2, Insightful

      AED's are not a common device like a cell phone and should only be used by people trained and with a ticket to use them not Joe-blow member of the public.

      Common enough that they are in virtually every mall, casino, and airport in the US. But that's ultimately beside the point: that Apple's life-saving invention can be used by just about anyone actually argues in favor of its non-obviousness because it's harder to develop effective technologies that everyone can use. For example, despite years of development and lots of potential value, no one has yet developed an AED that can be safely used by someone who has no training.

      Regarding the screen dimming: the patent does not claim all uses of voltage lowering to dim the LCD. It claims only the use of this power-saving feature when an emergency call is placed.

    2. Re:This should not be exempt from patentability by Grond · · Score: 2, Informative

      So only apple should be able to dim their LCD when the battery is low. So by your logic if I make an emergency call my phone should not be able to dim the screen if the battery is low?

      That's not what the application claims. The applications claims "if the phone call is an emergency call, activating an emergency mode of the mobile phone to handle the phone call, wherein the emergency mode prolongs the length of the phone call." It does not claim taking battery saving measures in response to a low battery state, whether an emergency call is in progress or not. It is proactive rather than reactive.

  8. Prior Art? by cnaumann · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have turned off the AC in my car and reduced my speed in the hopes that I could get to a gas station before running out of gas. Isn't that about the same thing?

    How about a car with an emergency reserve gas tank that is activated by a lever inside the car?

    I suppose that running the batteries completely flat may harm them. Basically they are claiming a patent on overriding the shutdown feature designed to protect the batteries and using a low power mode. That does not seem original. Granted, coupling this with a 911 call is kind of clever.

    1. Re:Prior Art? by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think you'll find that most patents are actually ridiculously specific. If you tried to claim prior art with that car analogy, you'd be laughed out of court.

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  9. Cellphones already do some of this by DrDitto · · Score: 5, Informative

    I used to work for a major cellphone manufacturer.

    Cellphones already go into a special emergency mode. All phones definitely scan for more towers beyond those in the PRL list (preferred roaming list). I believe phones may also increase Tx power if battery is good and the CDMA noise floor is high.

    One big problem I recall: it is not as well tested. The Verizon phone guys aren't going to yell "do you hear me now" at 911 operators. We had once instance where it was discovered that the 911 mode had a software bug and caused the phone to crash. That caused an immediate "stop ship". We definitely had to improve the synthetic 911 testing environment...

  10. Not new by parlancex · · Score: 2, Informative

    Although it sounds like what they're proposing here has some good ideas, the concept isn't groundbreaking. My Blackberry has an emergency callback mode and I've seen in action once. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/deliverables/1487/About_Emergency_Callback_Mode_26287_11.jsp

  11. Good idea by nightfire-unique · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No debate on the ethics of patents or patenting a potentially life-saving idea... but, there is a very interesting possibility here.

    LIPO/LIION batteries, if fully discharged, cannot be recharged (at least not safely, by an end-user). All modern electronics electronics that use rechargeable lithium include charge controllers which protect the battery from deep discharge, and overcharge. The discharge protection could be disabled in the case of a 911 call, and provide a significant amount of battery life (perhaps 5-10%) at the expense of the battery. The user could be briefly warned on-screen while placing the call that it could destroy the battery, but in a life or death situation, what's $50?

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  12. Re:Batteries only have so much power. by bcmm · · Score: 2, Informative

    It is measured in Amps or Milliamps usually in the case of cell phone batteries. Once the juice is gone its gone you can't magically make more through software.

    Power isn't measured in amps, and also isn't the same thing as battery capacity.

    Battery capacity is measured in milliamp-hours (even though does not allow direct comparison, in terms of stored energy, between batteries of different voltages), where 1 mAh would allow one milliamp to be drawn for one hour before the battery dies. If you can draw less current (fewer milliamps), you can get more running time (more hours, making up the same number of mAh), and this is how the software "makes more juice": it turns off various non-vital hardware, and presumably turns off non-vital software, meaning the processor is in power-save mode more of the time.

    It's not about getting more power from the battery so much as reducing the amount of power you get from the battery.

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  13. Mod parent up. by Animats · · Score: 5, Informative

    Mod parent up. Most of this is already standard, and mandated by the FCC. The new stuff is just some iPhone-specific problems that Apple has to deal with. All the nonessential guck in the phone needs to be switched off during emergency calls.

    911 calls have at least the following FCC-mandated features.

    • Billing problems must be bypassed. 911 calls must go through even if the cell phone has no account, the billing system is down, the phone is roaming out of area, or the local provider can't contact the home provider for billing passthrough.
    • Transmit power management is disabled. Cell phones go to full power in emergency mode. (Yes, battery drain goes up.)
    • If the phone cannot connect to a cell site of its own system, after 17 seconds it must try to connect to any cell site of any system it can reach. Phones used to fall over to analog roam when necessary, before analog AMPS went down.
    • GPS information is transmitted.
    • A higher QoS is specified within the cell phone network, so emergency calls get in ahead of non-emergency traffic.
    • The call is not easily disconnected until the emergency operator releases it, although there's usually some way to force disconnect from the cell phone end.

    It's not like Apple just invented "emergency mode".

  14. power by confused+one · · Score: 4, Informative

    The important advantage people seem to be missing is the patent allows extended use of the battery. Li-Ion batteries have a discharge threshold, below which the cell is damaged and can not be recharged. The charge protection circuit usually cuts off the power, to save the cells, when this point is reached. In an emergency, it's a really good idea to be able to bypass this protection. It's an emergency, you're not going to care if you ruin the battery; but, you may care that you can get an extra 10-20% more talk time out of the battery.

  15. Re:R&D costs, solutions are easy by Grond · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There is no reason the government should not pass a bill, that states that any such patent as this (safety, public good), could have a value assigned to them by an arbitrator.

    There are very good reasons why that's a bad idea. First, patent valuation is notoriously difficult. The literature on this is extensive and there are no good solutions, despite decades of research and a small fortune to be made from accurately valuing patents, which has many, many applications (e.g., determining R&D priorities, evaluating mergers and acquisitions, bankruptcy, etc).

    Second, what is well established is that the market is a very effective evaluator of the worth of ideas and technologies. Patents allow innovators to let the market decide on the value of their products and services, which also gives them invaluable feedback on the direction their future R&D should take.

    Finally, here is a hypothetical that demonstrates the above:

    Consider a world without SMS, circa 1995 prior to the widespread use of cellphones. Some enterprising engineer discovers a slice of bandwidth that can be used for sending short text messages and patents it. Now imagine that the primary use envisioned for this is the sending of emergency messages to a 911-type service, which is very useful for someone who can't hear or speak because of the nature of the emergency or because they are deaf or mute. Under your scheme, the patent is seized and an arbitrator would probably decide that this is worth some modest amount as an emergency service.

    Now, fast-forward 10 years and generalized SMS is an incredibly popular technology used for all kinds of purposes. Too bad for the inventor, of course, because neither he or she nor the arbitrator foresaw where the market would take the technology. If the property right had remained with the inventor, he or she could have licensed it to various phone manufacturers and telecoms and made a much more appropriate amount as SMS grew in popularity. Ex ante valuation of patents will always suffer such problems.

  16. Why is this only an emergency feature??? by booyabazooka · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The phone's purpose is making phone calls. If a phone is low on battery power, and I'm making a call, by all means, ALWAYS cut power to non-essential components.

  17. "Ideas" should not be patentable by volpe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Patents should cover an apparatus or method (the "how"), not the idea (the "what").

    Every patent application should first identify the "what", and then identify the "how". If the "how" is obvious after being told the "what", then the "invention" is obvious, no matter how novel or non-obvious the "what" is.

    1. Re:"Ideas" should not be patentable by Your.Master · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You're just not drilling down far enough. You're basically still in the "what" territory.

      As an analogy: a new, more efficient car battery is produced and patented. The patent says they made a new longer-lasting battery by using a process that wastes less energy. Then it details the process. The "using a process that wastes less energy" part is obvious. How to go about doing that is not.

      I gave up finding the original patent (couldn't be bothered) but I guarantee that if you look through the claims, you'll find something that's at least questionable whether it's obvious or not, and I bet you'll find a lot that's clearly non-obvious (and I bet you'll be able to think of a way to implement the "what" without using their methods).

  18. Emergency button by tsa · · Score: 3, Funny

    I have the Chinese takaway programmed in my emergency button. You need that much more than 911 (or 112 in Europe).

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  19. For some reason by Toreo+asesino · · Score: 3, Funny

    this reminds me of an old phone I used to have that implemented perhaps the very opposite of this idea...

    It would vibrate to tell me the battery was running low in silent mode. Problem was just by doing that it actually used up the last of the power it was supposed to warn me about being low, effectively making it some kind of ironic suicide warning.

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  20. It would disable 'non-essential hardware component by deft · · Score: 2, Funny

    "It would disable 'non-essential hardware components' and applications on the phone, reduce power to the screen and potentially reduce the phone's processor speed. It also would make it harder to disconnect the call".

    That sounds alot like verizons business model for all their phones, emergency or not. Then you just pay more for to get them back.

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