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Watch TV On Your Satnav

Barence writes "Satnav firm Mio is launching a device with an integrated TV tuner. The Mio Spirit range includes a digital television tuner that is intended to be used 'during breaks in the journey or at their final destination.' However, safety campaigners fear there's little to stop the television being used at the wheel. When the system is first turned on a warning message is displayed, telling the user not to watch television while driving. If this is ignored, a secondary warning message kicks in if the GPS chip detects the vehicle is moving at more than 5mph. But that's it!"

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  1. Speed Interlock Override by Brett+Buck · · Score: 3, Funny

    Even the current GPS units/DVD players can easily be defeated. In most cases, all you need to do is ground one of the pins in the connector, and it always thinks you are parked. My brother has been playing Family Guy DVDs in his in-dash unit for years. The SAME Family Guy DVD.

              Brett

    1. Re:Speed Interlock Override by Mike1024 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Even the current GPS units/DVD players can easily be defeated. In most cases, all you need to do is ground one of the pins in the connector, and it always thinks you are parked.

      I've heard some people who want a GPS/DVD player with the GPS functions disabled take the even more nefarious route of just buying a DVD player :-)

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      "Goodness me, how unlike the FBI to abuse the trust of the American public." -- The Onion
  2. That's fine.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ..there is such a thing as personal responsibility and we don't need a nanny to babysit us all the time.

    Life is like Unix and you are the superuser. With that comes the power to 'rm -rf' the system.. intentionally or not.

    --iamnotayam

    1. Re:That's fine.. by Barny · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thats a first, a computer analogy to describe a car.

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    2. Re:That's fine.. by mail2345 · · Score: 2, Informative

      With that, I say: And if your sharing the system(the road) with others?

    3. Re:That's fine.. by Unipuma · · Score: 5, Informative

      Sadly, they are not on the road all on their own. And as much as I won't miss them if they drive into a ravine while watching TV, I'm a bit less happy if they're driving in the oncoming lane on the same road I'm driving (or more likely, in my lane while they are fiddling with the controls).

      (Kind of like I'm fine with them being superuser on their own system, but what do you do when they need to have modify rights to a network drive which also contains my work)

    4. Re:That's fine.. by johannesg · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ..there is such a thing as personal responsibility and we don't need a nanny to babysit us all the time.

      Life is like Unix and you are the superuser. With that comes the power to 'rm -rf' the system.. intentionally or not.

      --iamnotayam

      Nobody really cares if the driver kills himself while being terminally stupid. The problem is that they tend to take other people with them, people who did not have any part in their idiot choices. Your right to watch TV while driving does not override other people's right to live.

    5. Re:That's fine.. by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

      And if you kill someone, you can just restore him from a backup!

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    6. Re:That's fine.. by rastoboy29 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That is fine, except for the existence of nincompoops who are liable to rm -rf *you* or *me* while their texting or watching tv while driving.

      Some people should not be allowed to have root access sometimes.

    7. Re:That's fine.. by Ihlosi · · Score: 2, Insightful
      ..there is such a thing as personal responsibility

      Your personal responsibility should be limited to your net worth. Otherwise, it's not your personal responsibility, but someone elses (whoever has to eat the difference between what you and your insurance are able to pay and the actual damage you caused).

  3. Nice! by madfilipino · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Get shitty drivers and give them mobile phones to talk on so they become even shittier drivers. Now get those bastards to watch TV while talking and texting on their mobile phones and we'll have the shittiest drivers on the road. Hopefully, these bastards will kill themselves without killing others, making the road safer for everyone else.

    Oh well, back to reality.

    1. Re:Nice! by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Funny

      Now, now, be reasonable. It's not like they copied a CD or something, all they did was endangering the lives of other people.

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  4. Re:First post? by Jurily · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I always thought that warning messages were more likely to get you killed in the 0.05s you spend pressing "ok" when you could have done the one thing you wanted to do.

    They'd be more effective to only let you use the TV in "radio mode", e.g. no video to distract you from the road.

  5. Re:South Korea by incognito84 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes. I'm in South Korea too and it's something I see every day, in nearly every taxi I get in. Its extremely common to see someone tune the GPS screen into digital television stations while driving. The law has little affect on it.

    It makes sense after you see a horrible accident on the high way, look into one of the vehicles in the collision and see their LCD screen displaying The Cooking Channel or something.

  6. Because if only.. by profplump · · Score: 3, Informative

    Because if only we could prevent this one particular stupid thing people can do while driving we will eliminate all driving-related injuries and deaths.

    Seriously, there is an endless supply of stupid, distracting things people can do while driving, with out without GPS, a cell phone, TV, children, or any of the other things they might have in their car. If someone is stupid enough to be distracted by TV while they're driving they'll likely be able to find something similarly stupid to do even if you ban every bit of technology you can name from the dashboard. Like DRM, the only thing you'll accomplish by adding silly technologically restrictions like this is annoyance for people who have legitimate uses.

    1. Re:Because if only.. by JaxTJ · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Absolutely. I used to have a 45-minute commute to work when I lived in New Jersey and I honestly can't remember the number of times that I was almost run into by someone in a 3-ton SUV that was talking or texting instead of driving.

      Japanese taxi drivers frequently have the TV playing on their nav units while driving, but they are among the safest drivers I've ever ridden with. I think two way communication is far more taxing to a driver's attention than a receive-only medium.

  7. I never watch TV while driving ... by electricprof · · Score: 2, Funny

    I never watch TV while driving ... however, I do frequently shower and shave while driving.

  8. Re:Simple safety solution by QuantumG · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ya, that's exactly what Dodge's in-car navigation system does. And it is annoying as hell, as I'm quite capable of driving and not getting distracted by the tv while the passengers watch it.

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  9. Re:Really not such a big deal by MemoryDragon · · Score: 2, Informative

    We have had those units in Europe for ages, and there was not a single problem. I am not sure if this is not an American problem alone...

  10. Puhleez by TopSpin · · Score: 3, Funny

    safety campaigners fear there's little to stop the television being used at the wheel

    Silly safety campaigners... don't they know we're too busy texting on our mobile phones while driving to watch TV?

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  11. Re:First post? by QuantumG · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My guess would be because they're fucking morons.

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    How we know is more important than what we know.
  12. Re:First post? by azior · · Score: 5, Funny

    Those poor morons...

  13. Great by CaPn+Corelian · · Score: 2, Insightful

    More distractions for drivers will eventually mean more cyclists being killed on the road. Looking on the bright side, this could accelerate the eventual transition towards having computers assume control of vehicles on the streets.

  14. Japan Too by corsec67 · · Score: 2, Informative

    It is amazing how many drivers here in Japan (specifically near Toyota City, but I assume elsewhere in this country) are watching TV while driving. Add in texting on a cell phone, not wearing seat belts and things get more dangerous.

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  15. Re:Simple safety solution by diskis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What about ferries? A hour long ferry ride would be the perfect use for a TV, but the satnav shuts itself down when the ferry leaves the port.

  16. Re:TV while drivin is Darwin Award worthy... by IBBoard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Exactly what I was thinking - there's a use case where you know your route but only want to carry one device and so entertain the other passengers by using it as the TV rather than using the SatNav (which you may need later) as a navigation device.

    Yeah, people watching TV while driving is a problem, but there are far more prevalent problems that'll cause just as many accidents: people doing 100Mph+ on Motorways with warnings of queuing ahead, people not indicating, people on mobile phones, etc.

  17. It's called... by Antony-Kyre · · Score: 4, Insightful

    wreckless driving, and it shouldn't be tolerated. Shouldn't anyone watching TV while driving lose their license?

    1. Re:It's called... by kobatan · · Score: 5, Funny

      Umm... it's called *reckless* driving!

      Wreckless driving is desirable.

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    2. Re:It's called... by dkf · · Score: 2, Funny

      The only thing that's frightening about stupid cyclists is the possible legal fallout, if you're not too squeamish about the possible bloody mess.

      Watch out for the ones carrying landmines. Running them over can spoil your whole day...

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      "Little does he know, but there is no 'I' in 'Idiot'!"
  18. This has been in Japan for about 5 years by rips123 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Japanese models turn the TV off altogether when the car starts moving but you can slip the dealer a bit of cash and he'll turn that "feature" off for you.

  19. Not acceptable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Presumably all the people who find this acceptable would have no problem if the surgeon putting them back together after they crash watches TV whilst doing the surgery.

  20. And A Dollar Short by DynaSoar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "... safety campaigners fear there's little to stop the television being used at the wheel."

    When the original version of The Andromeda Strain aired on TV circa 1971, I packed a 12" B&W Zenith portable with a 12 V DC car cigarette lighter adapter into a friend's car and we set out watching it. He made it 2 blocks before hitting a curb. I tried and made it 1 block before doing the same. We then parked and watched the rest.

    So they're right to be alarmed. They're just several decades late. But then, we knew it was stupid to try it. I suspect far more people these days wouldn't realize that unless the TV told them, and then many would still ignore it. I'd wish for natural selection to take its course with them, except it might do so head on with someone not deserving of the same fate.

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    "I may be synthetic, but I'm not stupid." -- Bishop 341-B
  21. I want a GPS that blanks out white by Philip+K+Dickhead · · Score: 2, Funny

    and begins muttering rosaries, as the unit detects I'm hitting 90 mph.

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    "Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell
  22. Re:First post? by lindseyp · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've been using TV-enabled satnavs here in Japan for many years. The law forces dealers to make the TV switch off when the car is moving.

    However most 3rd party fitters will bypass this restriction, and it's fairly common to see asshats driving round with the TV fully on.

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  23. Re:First post? by mcvos · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe they should do it as a HUD system, prjecting on the windscreen of the car.

    And then, when they feel the need to warn you, your entire windscreen goes opaque with a giant warning message.

  24. Re:First post? by imakemusic · · Score: 5, Funny

    Blue windscreen of death

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  25. ATSC by Reed+Solomon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Isn't one of the drawbacks of an ATSC digital signal that it's difficult to maintain a lock on it while you're in motion? They're advertising it as something to do once you arrive in your destination, so its not like people haven't been warned about the realities of the situation

  26. My World and Welcome to It by westlake · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because if only we could prevent this one particular stupid thing people can do while driving we will eliminate all driving-related injuries and deaths.

    Every little bit helps.

    But I can't help wondering why the multi-tasking geek always trots out this excuse for inaction.

    It's a patently false dilemma.

    We can do other things while we do this one thing.

  27. Re:TV while drivin is Darwin Award worthy... by lxs · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Whatever happened to sitting in the back shutting the fuck up and feeling miserable? I miss those days.