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Middle-School Strip Search Ruled Unconstitutional

yuna49 writes "The US Supreme Court today ruled 8-1 that the strip search of a 13-year-old girl by officials in an Arizona middle school was unconstitutional. However, by a vote of 7-2, the Court also ruled that the individual school officials could not be held personally liable. A suit for damages against the school district itself is still going forward. We discussed this case at length back in March when the Court decided to hear the case on appeal."

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  1. Unless... by Misanthrope · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unless the district had a policy that made this a requirement of the officials, they should be held personally accountable for these horrid actions.

  2. And the "!" in the 8 to 1 is... by nebaz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Clarence Thomas, who 'asserted that the majority's finding second-guesses the measures that educators take to maintain discipline "and ensure the health and safety of the students in their charge."'

    I can't imagine how forcing a 13-year old girl to strip ensures anyone's health and safety, especially since they were looking for IBUPROFIN, for heaven's sake.

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  3. Re:This is America by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now, I don't agree with strip searching kids, especially for something stupid like Advil or something. However, the second you state that school officials are not allowed to check your underwear, that's where everything starts getting hidden. Unfortunately, the only way to keep this from being abused and still having some effectiveness would be to publicly allow this type of search, but ban it privately.

    That's when you call the cops and have it done by professionals who know how to do it properly. Even if my kid was carrying drugs in his or her underwear, I would not want a school administrator doing the search. You think you've got that much evidence, then you pick up the goddamned phone and phone the goddamned cops. If you're a school employee, your job is not to do strip searches, and I hope the kid's lawyers bankrupt the goddamned school. They overstepped their bounds so badly that it's difficult to imagine how they're judgement could have been any worse.

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  4. Re:This is America by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Hey, at least that time they were actually looking for drugs.

    Awhile back in a suburb of San Diego, an overzealous administrator had the good idea to round up all of the girls at the dance and check their panties so that the filthy whores wearing thongs(or less) could be sent home to change.

    And about that, from the link:

    Garvik's sophomore daughter was forced to go home and change before she could enter the dance, although thongs are not barred in the school dress code. The code states that undergarments, including "boxers, tank-top undershirts or underwear" should not be exposed.

    Some people with authority(especially those in certain government agencies, but I digress) seem to make up the rules as they go along. That's what makes them dangerous.

  5. Re:This is America by supernova_hq · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You would seriously allow a school official (or anyone below a police officer) to strip search your child in the same room or even the next room?!? What the hell is wrong with you?

    99 percent of parents I know would physically stop any such action from occurring, and I don't blame them at all!

  6. Re:This is America by networkBoy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm a parent of a little girl.
    I must say that if my child came home and reported either of these incidents I would likely be in police custody as a result.

    Now, I personally don't think girls of that age should be wearing g-strings and thongs, but that simply means I police *my* kid. Not other people's kids. Especially if it's not against the rules to begin with. I agree with the "no showing underwear" rule, much like I agree with the "no drugs, and we can search your personal possessions while you are on campus" rules. What I can't fathom is the thought of we'll lift your skirt and strip off you clothes even if we don't have *damn good* evidence or suspicion.

    Take this case:
    Girl accused of having motrin-400's and they want to find out if she has any more. Search locker, pockets, backpack, purse, STOP! You're done. Seriously, it's Motrin, not crank. And the "informant" is another student who was just busted and wants to shift the blame.

    Vs.

    Teacher sees dope deal go down, pulls both students in. Weed/speed/whatever is "missing" and no sign it was dropped...
    now you get in the territory of _maybe_ getting to a more intimate search.

    as it is now as a parent I would press sex offense charges in both cases, sue the pants off the school district, picket the school with the names of the offenders and what they did, and blanket the district with fliers about what happened...

    Each incident like this makes me realize that things have only gone downhill since I was in school.

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  7. Re:This is America by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Something to consider also is that if it's THAT FREAKIN SERIOUS then you don't let a teacher deal with it, you call the police and let THEM deal with it. That's why we HAVE police to begin with, they know how to handle issues with that kind of gravity.

    Teachers deal with school related issues, anything that's threatening life or limb gets sent to the police. The police deal with it, and then it goes to the JUVENILE justice system.

    Then again not all cops are as awesome as the one's that have saved my ass from abusive and sometimes outright psychotic school administrators, but if a cop does something this absolutely fuck-dumb then there's already established means of dealing with it.

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  8. Re:This is America by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Teacher sees dope deal go down, pulls both students in. Weed/speed/whatever is "missing" and no sign it was dropped... now you get in the territory of _maybe_ getting to a more intimate search.

    At which point the cops are called. School adminstrators never have the right to strip search kids. Jesus christ...

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  9. So let me get this straight... by CompassIIDX · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's cool if I forcibly strip-search a 13 year-old girl as long as I'm a school official working on "official business." I can't be held accountable.

    But if that same girl willingly texts me a cellphone pic of herself in a bikini, I'm looking at time in hard prison and branded a sex offender for life.

    Seems perfectly logical to me.

  10. Re:This is America by Toonol · · Score: 5, Insightful

    She was 13 years old. Her principle, her nurse, were all telling her to do something. She was nervous, accused of a wrongdoing she didn't commit. Just because she went along doesn't mean she was a SHEEP, it means she is HUMAN.

    The fact that the authorities naturally have that sort of psychological power over children is one of the reasons abusing that authority is so wrong, and should be punished severely.