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Sega Not Giving Up On Mature Wii Games
Sega has recently taken a few attempts at developing games for the Wii that were targeted at adults rather than kids. House of the Dead: Overkill and Madworld haven't been incredibly popular, but they've done well enough to turn a profit. In Sega's eyes, this makes mature-themed games for the Wii a successful experiment, or at least one they're willing to continue. Other companies are looking to get into the act as well. EA will be releasing M-rated Dead Space: Extraction for the Wii, and Bethesda has a project in the works too.
I like games with experience. I always find myself spending my evenings at the game store. The younger, less mature games are always trying to "play games" with me. Last night, I picked up the game "Cougar Hunter". The graphics were a bit dated, but it kept me all night with it's compelling features!
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Nintendo's next system will cater exclusively to mature games. It'll be called the MiiLF. It won't have the same mature marketshare as the upcoming Atari Cougar though.
House of the Dead: Overkill was great fun. Recommended for two player zombie-killing action, 70s style!
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Some sort of hack and slash type game might be great with wiimote.
Quite frankly, that's the first thing that went through my mind when the Wii came out: here you have this console with a wireless remote that vibrate and senses accelerations, and nobody has come up with a massively multiplayer online gangbang sort of game yet? It can't be that hard to make a dildo sleeve for the wiimote (and a snatch-shaped attachment for Sir) and come up with a piece of software that transmits accelerations and make faraway wiimotes vibrate accordingly.
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While I'm no Sega/EA fanboy, I'm honestly getting sick of all the kiddie titles and messed-up ports when I pass the Wii section. My Wii is dusting right now, as the only games I ever play seriously with it are SSBB and Metroid Prime 3. From what I've seen, the "targeting family/casual/new gamer" stuff has gone overboard, with a lot of game companies getting tunnel vision in trying to get new audiences and as a result have abandoned the old.
House of the dead? wtf?
It can't be that hard to make a dildo sleeve for the wiimote
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It is great that they are finally going to make decent games for the wii, but Dead Space: Extraction? Really? I don't want a sequel to a game that only came out on the other consoles.
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So "you can stick it", it's no longer an insult but actually an invitation for a multiplayer session?
I dunno if I wanted to play that with my friends, though. You don't know where they've been...
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Really, I'm amazed it's taking companies like Sega to take the lead on this.
Nintendo captured the casual market this console generation with an innovative controller style whilst Sony and Microsoft have fought over the hardcore market who tend to prefer these type of games.
Both Sony and Microsoft have announced their competing products to the Wii mote, and both certainly appear better than the Wii mote, although perhaps not with the Wii motion plus addon. They've also taken strides to increase their casual offerings (i.e. Microsoft's investment in games like Lips on the 360). It's clear Microsoft and Sony realise that whilst the hardcore market has more cash in it, it doesn't have enough when they're fighting each over over it so to make the kind of profits Nintendo has with the Wii they seem to understand they've got to start taking from Nintendo's market too.
The problem is Nintendo doesn't seem to recognise this, and are sticking with their casual market despite the fact it'll slowly start getting eaten away. It's hard to know if they have a trick up their sleeves or if they've become complacent with their success, but certainly I'm suprised they haven't pushed more mature games themselves to try and pull in some of the hardcore gamers from Sony and Microsoft. The problem for Nintendo is it's not as if this is the first time they've had a massive success and then just fallen back into obscurity for a few years, with something like the Wii I think many had wondered if they'd finally broken this cycle and had moved into a new era of innovation to stay permanently ahead, but right now, particularly judging by their rather weak E3 showing where they basically just showed more of the same that doesn't look like it's the case.
I suppose though historically we should probably not be suprised that it's Sega taking the lead here and not Nintendo, whilst Sega dropped out of the hardware market they always seemed to produce generally more mature games than Nintendo, so perhaps Sega are even doing it as part of a deal with Nintendo that Nintendo will remain a producer of casual games and Sega make mature games. Who knows, hopefully they're not that blind to the competition and do have a trick or two up their sleeves, but at face value this seems to absolutely not be the case right now.
Okay... so I read this posting, and then I go on over to the sega.com website to see what their current offerings are... and "Daisy Fuentes Pilates" pops up as the initially displayed game. Is there no end to the irony around here?
...and it's unfortunate that last I checked the soundtrack was unavailable in the US.
Doesn't seem from TFA that MadWorld turned a profit...only House of the Dead Overkill.
Leisure Suit Larry for the Wii? Giggity.
> Do more mature games require a different style controller? Move over Guitar Hero, it's time for Adult Hero.
You might not be from the U.S... things are different here. In the U.S. "mature" means over-the-top, distracting levels of violence. Sex is not allowed at any ratings level.
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In all seriousness, the hard part would be getting Nintendo to license it.
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I never assumed Wii would ever have any titles other than for kids or yoga-moms, and, being neither, never bought a Wii. I have not yet had cause to regret that decision. Did Nintendo ever market the console as a zombie-basher?
You said 'hard part' fnarr fnarr.
Most people grow out of finding tons of gratuitous blood "cool" when they're about 17.
Most of these games are 15-year-old boy games, not "mature" or "adult" games. (Not even going with the "adult = pr0n" thing there, since really porn is pretty immature too.)
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Could the reason that madworld wasnt popular just be that it was a crap game? Its nothing to do with key demos or the expected market share of the wii. Honestly, I played madworld for about 5 minutes and got bored out my mind.
Ive said before, the best game Ive played on the wii to date has been super mario galaxy, for the sole reason that its a freaking awesome game. Nothing else should really matter, but it seems people get focused on other things. How about instead of a "mature-themed game", you just make a GOOD game, and worry about its theme after?
I know plenty hardcore gamers that have a wii (often as well as other consoles), so its not like a good "mature" game wouldnt sell.
For Sir eh?
Making babies is natural but killing people is not, so that's what I never understood about the ratings system here. If anything, for any violent tv show, movie, or game, they should get a worse rating if the violence is unrealistic. If you see someone get shot, and then they're up and running 5 seconds later, like Arnold in commando, that should be an instant X rating. I've never been shot before, but I can imagine it friggin hurts.
Making babies is natural but killing people is not
What makes you think killing people is not natural? Making war is a fundamental part of human nature, and even that of our close ape relatives.
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here you have this console with a wireless remote that vibrate and senses accelerations, and nobody has come up with a massively multiplayer online gangbang sort of game yet?
Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft all refuse to digitally sign AO-rated games to run on retail consoles.
I don't want a sequel to a game that only came out on the other consoles.
Apparently, over 9.8 million people who bought Final Fantasy VII, a sequel on a Sony console to three or six games (depending on region) that had come out on Nintendo consoles, disagreed with you.
But... but then how will aspiring fratboys "prove" their "maturity" to themselves without that sweet, sweet hormonal rush? Everyone knows these are rated M because playing them makes you mature.
The controller lends itself well to a 'masturbation' game. With Nintendo being all Japanese you'd think they'd have a Bukkake game or something...
-- I found out about Bukkake when trying to find out what type of Udon noodles I wanted for lunch, when looking up Bukkake on the wiki my appetite waned.
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Madworld was interesting, but I returned the rental after beating the first boss. The controls weren't so hot. All the game did was make me miss the right stick for controlling the camera. I kept approaching enemies in round about ways to get the camera oriented the way I wanted (at a spike wall, for example) when I grabbed them. The monochromatic graphics were cool initially, but they made the eyes weary after a while.
A game where you kill everyone (or everything that is) doesn't seem to me very mature but just very childish.
I remember clearly that when I was a child I wanted to destroy everything...
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But only if it keeps the original graphics! Too disturbing if a photo-realistic Ron Jeremy was involved.
In seriousness, more 'mature' games may bring in some new customers. I don't know anything about the ones that have been released. There is a need to make the mature games compelling and easy to use. I don't see a 'Halo' type game playing well with the remote unit.
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Bethesda has a project in the works too.
I heard there were two. Ravin' Cliff Racers and House Hlaalu Party. There's a minigame in one of them where you waggle the Wiimote to string random letters together to create names for newly discovered Daedric ruins.
I'd see rather Sega focusing more on the gameplay rather than just trying to experiment with the M-rated audiences. Isn't targeting a "general" audience more important than an exclusive one? Granted, some M-rated gamers can't be drawn in by the general audience game, but The Conduit by Sega just came out for the Wii and its T-rated. It's pretty mild, but still some fun to mess in both story mode and online multiplayer. Just work on making a good FPS and I'm sure people will buy it.
Sega had their time, Now I can't look at them the same way after what they did to Guilty Gear Series.
Crapcom has also Dissapointed me with a number of Titles like DMC4 and
Destroying the MegaMan Series after the first few good NES ones.
Also capcom where is my Sengoku Basara X cross and Fate Unlimited Codes, both for PS2-US ?
Now as for companies I have to say Namco/Bandai (Love Tekken 6 Demos and Arcade)
has only let me down with the 2 minor problems. SoulCalibur 4 while fun kind of didn't live up to the Other Versions,
Also the time they waste on Naruto Games. But They haven't made me RAGE like the other two.
Arc sys and Smaller Companies seem to be the newest group where Failures and Wonderful Games come from.
I'll rephrase what I think might have been the GP's point, and what was certainly the point I was sardonically driving at.
Sex is a normal, healthy activity that most well-adjusted adults will and should engage in. Violence, while I grant your point that it's natural, is _not_ something we should expect most well-adjusted adults to be a part of.
That sex should be considered offensive, and in fact more offensive than violence, is to my view a sign of a very sick culture. Personally, I blame religion.
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I've got MadWorld, The Conduit, No More Heroes, Scarface, The Godfather, Medal of Honor: Heroes 2, Sam & Max, Resident Evil 4 & Umbrella Chronicles, Okami, Trauma Center, Excite Truck, Zelda, Blast Works.
These are all great games for hard core gamers. I admit, the Wii doesn't have every base covered, but for a bunch of games that work well with motion controls and are fun for hard core gamers, they have a decent spread. And if you wrote off games like Excite Truck or Okami, as many did, give them a second look.
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In MadWorld you can use the WiiMote to swing your chainsaw. Works pretty accurately in that game, and it's a hack'n'slash beat'em-up. You just pull the trigger and swing, and it will let you cut people up. However you don't need to be swinging the remote everywhere if you don't want to, there are plenty of moves that use it and plenty of moves that don't. You can switch it up with punching, kicking, throwing, etc., but the chainsaw is definitely a guilty pleasure in that game.
Just sticking a mature rating on something does not guarantee value or quality. Houses of the Dead: Overkill was loads of fun... for a whole hour and 10 minutes. But with only 6 scenarios to the whole game, it's a rip off. Given the style of game, I would expect at least 15-20 scenarios, and then some easter eggs to increase replayability. As is, it plays more like a demo.
That and "Dead Can Rising" can eat my ass.
Resident Evil 4 is a hell of a lot of fun, they use the remote perfectly in it to shoot and to slash people with a knife.
Except that FF games are well known for not having "true" sequels
OK, bad example. But are the Resident Evil games closer to true sequels? The first few were for Sony's PlayStation consoles, and then Capcom put out Resident Evil 4 as a timed exclusive initially on the Nintendo GameCube.
Unfortunately for you, the mainline Final Fantasy games never were sequels of each other.
But is Mega Man 8 (PlayStation) a sequel to Mega Man through Mega Man 7 (NES, Super NES)? And are Mega Man X4-8 (PlayStation; PlayStation 2) sequels to Mega Man X through Mega Man X3?
Oh, I'd agree with that. I just get tired of the assumption many people have that natural==good.
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Make DOAX3 for the Wii, with volleyball, blackjack and hookers.
In fact, forget the volleyball!
Awesome. 1 Player. 2 Guns. Sometimes you screw up when you consciously release that you've been unconsciously operating 2 guns independently. Very strange (and more than slightly psychotic) feeling.
But, can 2 players with 4 Wiimotes both play Dual Wield?
Maybe it's me... but I nearly wet myself laughing playing it.
Burnttoys.
Oh well.
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It sounds like a side-effect from the games-are-for-kids mentality. Only 10 year olds want to play games, then you find some tedium like MadWorld - just follow the endless QTEs to watch a violent action via a cut scene, ad infitium - which is much more like the gore-porn / slasher flicks that late teens enjoy watching and therefore it's 'mature', apparently.
Blame the ESRB for calling the rating that. No better way to make children completely disregard the rating than to make the label a positive word. Most European systems just print the age on the box, not some vague term like "mature".
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Yes, they are. There is story continuity in the Mega Man universe, not so in the Final Fantasy universe. Nice try though.