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Google Reveals Chrome Hardware Partners

nk497 writes "Google has announced the hardware partners for the Chrome OS — so we can expect to see netbooks running the operating system next year from the likes of Asus, Acer, and HP, as well as Toshiba. Dell didn't seem to make the list, at least yet. Google also said it had teamed up with Adobe, which could mean Google is looking to include the Acrobat.com web-based software suite in some way."

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  1. Noooo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anything but Acrobat, king of the bloatware!

    1. Re:Noooo by larry+bagina · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't worry, it's probably flash!

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    2. Re:Noooo by RiotingPacifist · · Score: 2, Informative

      dammit i was supposed to edit that to say adobe flash

      learn to type noob

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  2. Air by xtracto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Google also said it had teamed up with Adobe, which could mean Google is looking to include the Acrobat.com web-based software suite in some way."

    I am thinking more among the lines of Adobe AIR and seamlessly linking the Google OS platform with the AIR API.

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    1. Re:Air by darkvad0r · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm guessing this has more to do with flash than anything else. Maybe we'll finally get a flash plugin that doesn't suck on linux

    2. Re:Air by jocknerd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hate to break it to you, but the Flash plugin sucks on every platform.

    3. Re:Air by morcego · · Score: 2, Informative

      Flash 10 Alpha for Linux 64 crashes all the time.

      Oh my fucking god!!! An alpha version of a software ... and it crashes .... and has bugs ....

      What is the world coming to ?!?!?!?!

      You should be thankful that it has enough features to be usable. Alpha traditionally means that the feature set is not even complete.

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    4. Re:Air by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Nokia N800/N810 devices run full Flash 9 (not mobile or lite) on an ARM processor, so it's already possible.

    5. Re:Air by DuckDodgers · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sounds great. Get to work.

    6. Re:Air by Yvanhoe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I thought that Google had some sort of... I don't know... pride, or moral reservation at using anything else than javascript and HTML for its dynamic content. Flash would seem like a backward step to me.

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    7. Re:Air by swimin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      youtube is owned by google, and I believe its rather popular, and runs on flash. 95% of all video on the net is streamed through flash these days

  3. Marketing..... by ITJC68 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is this just smoke and mirrors. From what I have read this is Linux with a custom GUI on the front end. Depending on how they market it and which distro it is built from will probably dictate how far it goes. I use the *buntu and Suse variants of Linux on a daily basis. Unless this offers any real advantage I won't move to it even it I purchase a netbook with it I would probably format and load Ubuntu on it.

    1. Re:Marketing..... by gsslay · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Unless this offers any real advantage I won't move to it

      The real advantage it offers is that Google, a company that the average end user has heard of, is pushing it. There's also half a chance that the OS will be user-friendly enough for the average end user not to run screaming from, unlike most Linux distros. Hell, they may even be able to use it without ever having to see a command prompt.

      All this means it's actually in with a chance of competing with Windows on the desktop.

    2. Re:Marketing..... by larry+bagina · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's a linux kernel, not necessarily a distribution in any meaningful sense. They could simplify it to the linux kernel, loader, some libraries, and chrome executable. I suppose they would need a shell, scripts, and helper apps for network config and dhcp, but For a browser-based internet device, 99% of a standard linux distro is irrelevant.

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    3. Re:Marketing..... by mdwh2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Like OS X is just "Next with a custom GUI on the front end"?

      Obviously we'll have to wait and see what they release. But I fail to see how starting from an existing OS means that they aren't bringing anything new, or that they're relying on marketing. And even better, they'll be giving their new OS back to the open source community.

      Unless this offers any real advantage I won't move to it even it I purchase a netbook with it I would probably format and load Ubuntu on it.

      Right, but to be blunt, those of us who do this are such a minority that I doubt Google are worried about that factor. The competition is Windows 7 (and perhaps to a lesser degree, netbooks that are shipping with Linux preinstalled).

    4. Re:Marketing..... by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's a linux kernel, not necessarily a distribution in any meaningful sense. They could simplify it to the linux kernel, loader, some libraries, and chrome executable. I suppose they would need a shell, scripts, and helper apps for network config and dhcp, but For a browser-based internet device, 99% of a standard linux distro is irrelevant.

      According to Anandtech, which may be mostly speculating, ChromeOS is just enough Linux to run Chrome. All functionality will come from web apps. It's the thinnest of thin clients.

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    5. Re:Marketing..... by DuckDodgers · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Frankly, I still expect Google OS to become at best a tiny portion of the PC market. But that said, they have enormous advantages over other Linux desktop distributions: 1. Name recognition - favorable name recognition - from the average computer user. 2. Massive funding available for QA, pretty graphics, detailed documentation, and so forth. These days Ubuntu and OpenSuse, among others, are damn good, but Google has the resources to do even better. 3. Massive funding available for advertising. 4. The ability to sell machines to end-users with their distribution pre-installed. This has happened before with Linux in small numbers, but even at its peak it was tiny numbers and little attention. This will be available and widely known.

      But even with all those advantages, I expect the three way combination of Microsoft FUD, Microsoft genuine attempts to compete by improving their products, and consumer comfort with Microsoft will still leave Redmond controlling more than 90% of the PC market.

    6. Re:Marketing..... by the_womble · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There's also half a chance that the OS will be user-friendly enough for the average end user not to run screaming from, unlike most Linux distros. Hell, they may even be able to use it without ever having to see a command prompt.

      Pure FUD. The only things I have used the command prompt for in the last few months (running Linux Mint, at the machine):

      1) ping and dig - and both of those can be done from the GUI, I just prefer the command line.
      2) Django manage.py commands
      3) ssh into a remove server
      4) Restarting lighttpd

      Now, how many of those are things the average user would need to do? All my average user stuff (installing desktop apps, web browsing, email, etc.) gets done without a command prompt in site.

      Just because the sort of people who read Slashdot need to use the command prompt to get stuff done - stuff that most people have never heard of - does not mean the average user will ever see one.

    7. Re:Marketing..... by BikeHelmet · · Score: 3, Interesting

      No, your post is pure FUD. I bet you're posting from a top of the line gaming machine right? Bought the parts off newegg, and put it together yourself? Good hardware support, right?

      I have an old Dell computer sitting here, which is something the average user would have. Here's the problems I encountered:

      1) xorg.conf needed to be manually configured to fix the resolution and refresh rate. It required a lot of cmdline stuff; not as simple as opening the file in gedit and clicking save.

      2) Ubuntu 8.10 broke compatibility with the SATA controller, in such a way that it booted okay, and then corrupted the disk while running. This took quite a bit of cmdline work to "fix". I wiped out the partition and installed a SATA PCI card to run the drive from.

      3) Permissions wouldn't stick on my ext3 partition. Had to use cmdline rather than Nautilus to get it so users could read files and create new files on the partition. Without doing that, gedit couldn't save anywhere, and I couldn't open anything Firefox downloaded.

      No offense to you, but the average user won't tolerate this crap. They barely tolerate stuff like UAC, and this is way beyond that.

  4. I would absolutely love this by cerberusss · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just today, I gave a presentation created with Google Docs. WIth the right background and font colors, it was virtually indistinguisable from our usual company its PowerPoint template. Combining all the Google stuff together and you have a situation where you hardly need local storage. So, I'd give the Chrome OS a hearty welcome, even though it might offer too much limitations for others. I've given up my office suite, my IMAP and SMTP server and my webmail. For me personally, it's perfectly usable in business.

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    1. Re:I would absolutely love this by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 3, Funny
    2. Re:I would absolutely love this by Yvan256 · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're saying "it was virtually indistinguisable from our usual company its PowerPoint template" like it's a good thing.

    3. Re:I would absolutely love this by cerberusss · · Score: 3, Funny

      Thanks for your absolutely heart-warming post! I enjoy the support this board gives me! I have a talking, pink pony which just configured my Linux laptop its WiFi! :D

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    4. Re:I would absolutely love this by mario_grgic · · Score: 5, Interesting

      How does your company feel about you keeping the presentation data on Google servers?

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    5. Re:I would absolutely love this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My presentations are usually outside my office. Relying on a working internet connection for them sounds like a a major PITA to me, considering how much effort is usually involved for accessing a corporate LAN.

    6. Re:I would absolutely love this by cerberusss · · Score: 3, Informative

      My presentations are usually outside my office. Relying on a working internet connection for them sounds like a a major PITA to me, considering how much effort is usually involved for accessing a corporate LAN.

      Giving presentations off-site/off-line not the purpose of Google Docs. It's meant for sharing, collaborating and what have you. To do a presentation somewhere, just export to PDF and run it full-screen in any PDF viewer, on any OS.

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    7. Re:I would absolutely love this by cerberusss · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How does your company feel about you keeping the presentation data on Google servers?

      Well, I work at an not-for-profit scientific institute, so we are encouraged to share information with the rest of the world.

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    8. Re:I would absolutely love this by rhsanborn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because Google wants a platform running all of it's applications in a Google branded environment that google controls. This isn't some altruistic, give to the Linux community effort. This is a business move. And if it drives even more people to their sites, it sounds like a pretty good one.

    9. Re:I would absolutely love this by blamanj · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How does you company feel about keeping it's money in outside banks?

  5. what is Google's strategic intent here? by museumpeace · · Score: 4, Insightful

    all the press coverage yesterday characterized google's OS ambitions as an attack on MicroSoft or a counter attack in light of Bing. But to me, an open source OS enhanced for web-top uses sounds mighty like an attack on Intel/Moblin. After all, ARM processors are to be supported too from the little I have read of google's plans.

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    1. Re:what is Google's strategic intent here? by museumpeace · · Score: 5, Interesting

      btw, I should have linked the Moblin pages...there is a LOT of activity on their email feed for independent developers. http://moblin.org/

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    2. Re:what is Google's strategic intent here? by maxume · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Cheaper netbooks with Google branding on them, to drive you to Google search.

      Non Windows netbooks with some unheard of Linux distribution have been a flop, they want to see if the Google brand can sell them, and if it does, they want the buyers looking at Google ads.

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    3. Re:what is Google's strategic intent here? by LWATCDR · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What I see it as is a commercial developer friendly version of Linux.
      Odds are that it will.
      1. Have an app store for people to sell apps. Yea the web based apps is all cool but I think that side of it is being over blown.
      2. Will have Flash and codec support without having to get it from a none US repository. Google will pay for the rights.
      3. It will come pre-installed for aunt Tilly.

      The one thing I wonder about is will Google fork the Kernel and add a stable driver binary interface? If so will we soon see a lot more hardware support for Google Linux than traditional Linux.

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  6. ... so are they evil NOW? by gun26 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So Google's doing their own OS and partnering with Adobe, the purveyors of the biggest, buggiest and least secure bloatware on your computer. Great. Given the business Google is in - advertising, and the more of it the better - they're likely to take steps to make sure that all those slippery users out there do their patriotic duty and view all ads sent their way, no matter how obnoxious. Is there even an Adblock for Chrome?

    1. Re:... so are they evil NOW? by Degro · · Score: 2, Funny

      Showing ads isn't evil and adblocking software is asinine. The days of a 100 pop-ups are long gone.

  7. Will Chrome OS be any different... by bogaboga · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...as compared to this? If not then Google will have a hard time convincing me to switch.

    1. Re:Will Chrome OS be any different... by Aladrin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes. Everyone's heard of Google already and many are using it. Google will be different sheerly because everyone else will be using it and it'll be better supported by both the company and random people you know or meet. Also, you know Google isn't going anywhere for a long, long time.

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    2. Re:Will Chrome OS be any different... by The+J+Kid · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Also, you can phone up your bank, if their site's not working for you and scream:
      "WHAT DO YOU MEAN, YOU DON'T SUPPORT GOOGLE?"
      and they'll get with the Google.

      Try that with StarForce..

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    3. Re:Will Chrome OS be any different... by maxume · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You just don't have enough money for the bank to care about you (Neither do I).

      If someone with enough money calls in, or someone higher up in the bank wants it, I would think it would happen.

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    4. Re:Will Chrome OS be any different... by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 4, Interesting

      As someone who has worked in banks and developed eBanking applications, mod this up... You have no idea how true this is.... I (as a developer) told them countless times not to develop for IE only. They didn't listen to me. However, they completely changed faces when a rich-ass Linux user (no kidding, I was surprised too!) called in to complain. Then they put fire under our (the developers) asses, because they wanted it fixed ASAP.

  8. Down with G$$GLE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The G$$GLE-borg wants to take away our freedom with their shitty corporate crapware. Thank goodness for Microsoft, I support the feisty Microsoft freedomware guerillas against the evil G$$GLE empire!

  9. Dell's netbooks by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Dell's netbooks are overpriced anyway. Seriously, I went shopping for one recently and their netbooks seemed crazy expensive compared to asus, acer, et. al.

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    1. Re:Dell's netbooks by xtracto · · Score: 2, Informative

      Dell's netbooks are overpriced anyway. Seriously, I went shopping for one recently and their netbooks seemed crazy expensive compared to asus, acer, et. al.

      I do not know about Dell, but Acer machines have the fame of being completely craptastic. I stopped using/trusting Acer computer after having to provide service to 486Dx which had very crappy cases that seemed more like bad quality lego's. Or the other "stylish" black computers which were a completely piece of shit. I think Acer lack of quality may be only surpassed by that of Sony (which, may not be as bad due to quality but more because of the use of al lthose close formats)

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    2. Re:Dell's netbooks by DuckDodgers · · Score: 4, Informative

      Most of the laptops people buy come from Compal (Dell, Toshiba, HP) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compal_Electronics and Quanta (Acer, Apple, Compaq, Dell again, Toshiba again, HP again, Lenovo, Sony) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quanta_Computers.

      So don't get too caught up in which manufacturer is better. Pay attention to value for dollar and service (ha!), the hardware is shared.

  10. Re:No Intel or AMD ? by wjousts · · Score: 5, Informative

    These are partners that make computers sold to consumers. Intel and AMD make CPUs that go into those computers and (AFAIK) don't make computers themselves, which is why they are not on this list. Also, they have already announced that they will support both x86 and ARM processors.

  11. Re:No Intel or AMD ? by Zerth · · Score: 2, Informative
  12. Acrobat, huh by MadFarmAnimalz · · Score: 4, Informative
    Google also said it had teamed up with Adobe, which could mean Google is looking to include the Acrobat.com web-based software suite in some way.

    Umm, no. Flash.

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  13. How Many Years....? by jDeepbeep · · Score: 5, Funny

    For how many years will the Chrome OS stay in beta? Place your bets.

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  14. People Failing To Grasp Chrome Just Like Android by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One just has to look at the silly posts back when Android was announced and all the inane and irrelevant garbage spewed about the goddamn iPhone and if Android was an 'iPhone killer'.

    With every major cellphone maker coming out with Android phones and demoing their custom interfaces and software built on top of Android and Windows Mobile virtually forgotten about, you would think people would wise up and grasp how huge this move by Google is into the netbook market.

  15. WTF, Google. You're teaming up w/Adobe, too? by Qubit · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google also said it had teamed up with Adobe, which could mean Google is looking to include the Acrobat.com web-based software suite in some way.

    First off, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if anyone is teaming up with Adobe to include Adobe web stuff that it's not going to focus on Acrobat but on Adobe Flash, Adobe AIR, and that whole ecosystem.

    That out of the way, what the Flippety Friggery, Google?

    You're building a new OS based on the Linux kernel + Chrome Browser, which is cool because these are both high-quality Free Software projects. But then you wander off and sidle up to Adobe instead of working with Free Software such as Gnash.

    This seems like a repeat of the situation with the ARM folks. Gnash has had ARM support for several years, but instead of the ARM people collaborating with Gnash to get full Flash support on their processors, the ARM people worked with Adobe to make a whole new port to ARM, instead.

    Now Google is working on a slick new OS and has an amazing opportunity to have the whole thing be Free Software. Gnash is getting very mature, and with support from a organization like Google it could easily become the best Flash player on Free OSes, if not on all OSes.

    C'mon Google: Team up with Gnash and other Free Software projects and make Chrome OS one for the history books.

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  16. 2010 will be the year of Linux by Norsefire · · Score: 5, Insightful

    on the browser.

  17. This is not good for free software by FourthAge · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From the perspective of the user, what is worse than being dependent on non-free software such as Flash?

    Answer - being dependent on non-free software that only runs on someone else's machine as a remote service. The goal of Chrome is to replace customer lock-in to Windows and Office with lock-in to Google's "software as a service". Since customer data will be held hostage by Google, along with the only applications that can read it, no "Openoffice" or "Linux" will be coming to rescue the user from this lock-in. But hey, it's Google, they won't "be evil", right? (hollow laughter).

    I am unsure why other free software advocates are supporting this idea, unless the enemy of Microsoft is automatically our friend.

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    1. Re:This is not good for free software by nadaou · · Score: 4, Informative

      > Google has never been a supporter of Free Software.

      This year's Google Summer of Code is providing approx $5M in scholarships for students to work on Free Software projects. No strings attached other than an oversight framework to make sure the system is not abused.

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    2. Re:This is not good for free software by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Second, having Google out there in the OS business means that we're probably going to see better cross-platform support by large players. Right now just about every company/website/service supports Windows. A large subset of those support OSX. And a somewhat smaller subset also support GNU/Linux. If a GNU/Linux-based OS comes along with the might of Google behind it, we're probably going to see a lot more companies stepping up to support that kind of stack.

      Did you miss the part about this being strictly a "web OS"?

      Every company/website/service will support Chrome OS eventually, but that doesn't mean that they will support Linux. No more than companies writing Android applications today somehow support Linux. For both Android and Chrome OS, Linux kernel and base system is really just an internal implementation detail, and not something that application developers will deal with directly. Forget about POSIX as well.

      Third, standards. Google has done a pretty darn good job of supporting them, unlike other big players. More Google software out there will probably mean greater support for standards.

      Uh, they're partnering with Adobe. You can bet that means Flash. Sure, they will ship WebKit there, with decent HTML5 support, at least - but so long as it has Flash out of the box, too, everyone will just keep using that.

  18. Re:People Failing To Grasp Chrome Just Like Androi by mdwh2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Don't worry - in a year or two, Apple will finally release a netbook, and then we can hear people branding Google OS as being "An Apple nEtbOok [or whatever it'll be called] killer".

  19. Re:Google is not making an OS... by Reapman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just like OSX is nothing more then a distro of BSD? If someone (say Google) makes "just another distro" that actually brings Linux out into the mainstream, then I'm all for it. What's the harm of it, anyways? Google's releasing the source code so can't really understand how this may be evil. I must be missing the Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt angle.

  20. Lotsa unwarranted pessimism around here by 4D6963 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why does everybody act like Chrome OS will somehow be locked down to just running Chrome and using webapps into it? Just because the original blog post emphasised on the webapps part doesn't mean it will be any less functional than your favourite distro. They're not stupid, they'll do what the market wants to eat Microsoft's yummy marketshare, they won't give you a half-assed OS, they'll give you a fully featured OS that has the advantage of having an OS designed around performance, security, usability and more importantly (according to them) designed around the use of web apps in mind. That means you can beat your ass you'll have all the offline apps you want and have an OS just as functional as your favourite distro.

    As for partnering with Adobe, what do you know, maybe they're out to get Adobe Photoshop on Chrome OS ;-).

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  21. Did anyone actually RTFA? by sjvn · · Score: 3, Informative

    There is _no_ news here about who the partners will be. It's just a day-late write-up of the original Google Chrome announcement. This should never have been published as 'news' this late in the game much less Slashdotted.

    Steven

    1. Re:Did anyone actually RTFA? by toopok4k3 · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's here. I think this is the original news source.

  22. Translation please!! by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 2, Funny

    Which language is this? I would love to translate such seemingly insightful post to English and enrich my life with this knowledge.

  23. Google, *please* don't screw this up! by Qbertino · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm weary allready. First Android, then a completely differently branded second Linux knockoff. I know Google isn't dependant on making money with their software and OSes projects, but the last thing we need is further market confusion due to Google joining the fray of alternative OSes and distros. I beg that they manage to string Android and this Chrome OS thing into one OS ecosystem and that it will be well standardised and documented.

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  24. Re:No Intel or AMD ? by limaxray · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While TFS fails to mention it, a major part of TFA is that they are partnering with the likes of Freescale, Qualcomm, and Texas Instruments. These 3 companies are all semiconductor manufacturers, like AMD and Intel, and produce some of the most exciting and leading edge ARM based mobile multimedia solutions out there. You can't deny that it's odd the x86 architecture goes completely unrepresented.

    IMO, ChromeOS is probably going to be geared more for cheap 'internet appliances' where ARM is much better suited. If you don't need to worry about platform compatibility, why would you even consider a legacy ISA like x86 that consumes more power and runs hotter? I'm sure they're going to support x86 simply because it currently dominates the available hardware, but I'd bet COTS ChromeOS devices will mostly come packing ARMs.

  25. Security by heffrey · · Score: 2, Funny

    What really excites me about the new Google Chrome OS is the security aspect. As Google said on their official blog http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html:

    And as we did for the Google Chrome browser, we are going back to the basics and completely redesigning the underlying security architecture of the OS so that users don't have to deal with viruses, malware and security updates. It should just work.

    The Chrome web browser has been a complete revelation in terms of security with a track record of no security problems whatsoever. Since they are building Chrome OS on top of Linux then "completely redesigning the underlying security architecture of the OS" presumably means redesigning the security architecture of Linux. Since Linux is GPL then clearly Linus will be able to accept all of Google's changes and redesigns and then Linux will have no security flaws ever again. I'm quite sure Linus will be delighted to do so.

    It would be such a joy to have an OS that never needs a security update and I'm delighted that Google will implement one.

    Google really are ever so kind and generous in doing this for the world.

    1. Re:Security by zuperduperman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That part made me wonder what on earth they are going to do?

      The only way to achieve an OS that cannot be affected by any kind of malware is to have one with absolutely no persistent state and no ability to run any kind of user installed program. So is that code for, "we're going to cripple it so bad it'll be useless for anything except running Chrome"? Or is there some fundamental way around this that I'm not seeing?

  26. Clueless Marketdroid-Infested by StCredZero · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is the company that left VisualBasic background processes running from their install, looking for all the world like VB script viruses or trojans! Soaking up an appreciable amount of memory and CPU, just so their functionality would pop-up quickly. Any company where the marketdroids can have their way and do something that most geeks would know is inadvisable -- they are too infested to salvage.

    Try Foxit or Sumatra readers for PDFs!

    (Not associated with either company!)

  27. Why Dell isn't on the list by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because "Dell recommends Windows Vista Professional". I know that to be true, because it's always printed on EVERY D*MN PAGE of every one of their catalogs.

    I wonder how much they get paid for doing that?

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  28. Re:Google is not making an OS... by Reapman · · Score: 2, Informative

    Uh, Google did?

    http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html
    "Google Chrome OS is an open source, lightweight operating system that will initially be targeted at netbooks. "
    " and we'll soon be working with the open source community, "

    http://chrome.blogspot.com/2009/07/google-chrome-os-faq.html
    "Later this year, the Google Chrome OS code will be open sourced. "

  29. Maybe Google will buy Adobe and opensource it by Rob+Y. · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Any 'web book' is gonna need Flash. It's too ubiquitous to ignore, but at least it's more cross-platform than Silverlight. If Google were to buy it and 'make it free' (one way or another), that might be good for us all. Maybe that's why they're hedging about supporting Ogg video in HTML5.

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  30. The other marketing advantage by Rob+Y. · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Y'know not all off the netbook retreat to XP was driven by Microsoft's pressure (though I'm sure there was plenty of that too).

    The various netbook Linux'es were not great. Just read Slashdot, etc. Everyone was happy, happy, happy that Linux netbooks were being sold... and then they went on to say that the distros on the netbooks were crap - you should replace them with distro X. Is it any wonder that once the price advantage was gone, the netbook OEM's went with XP? Linux may well have worked better on their netbooks... but which Linux?

    (pauses to dodge incoming bombs)

    Anyway, notice that now that Google's in the mix, Asus, etc are coming back. It's not because Google's a sure thing. It's not even because it'll be better than what they were using before (though Google's no slouch - their stuff's pretty great). It's because the OEM's want a single alternative OS, and Google's name recognition guarantees that people will have heard of it.

    Linux distros are great. I use Mandriva, when I'm not using Fedora or Ubuntu. That's right. I'm part of the 'problem'. And if I don't like Chrome OS, I'll replace it with what I want. But I'm not Joe Consumer. And Asus is selling to good old Joe. I'm ready to stop blaming Asus for their timidity or their lack of software development savvy. It's not their job to be great OS developers (or even supporters). And if Google's willing to take on that job, that's great news.

    The only problem I see with this is that Google's conceding the desktop application market to Microsoft. Making this a 'web-only' device is very limiting. Limiting to what Google is happy to have you limited to, but limiting nonetheless. If there were a 'standard' Linux distro that had enough mindshare (and was good enough) for the OEMs to annoint it the standard, that might have produced something we Linux fans would've liked better. ...and then we could have junked it and put on our distros of choice. That's CHOICE as in 'always good, no matter what, no matter where'. Except when it's not.

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