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Beware the Airport Wireless

schwit1 writes to tell us that a recent study by a Silicon Valley-based security company shows that black-hats have been ramping up their use of tempting free or unsecured wireless access points in high travel areas like airports and hotels. "According to their study, even the 'secure' networks weren't all too safe. Eighty percent of the private Wi-Fi networks at airports surveyed by Airtight were secured by the aging Wired Equivalent Privacy (WEP) protocol, which was cracked back in 2001. Almost as many — 77 percent — of the networks they surveyed were actually private, peer-to-peer networks, meaning they weren't official hotspots. Instead, they were running off someone else's computer."

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  1. Old by sopssa · · Score: 4, Informative

    Isn't this quite old story? Already years ago I read that people have been setting their own hotspots near crowded places, and it works good because if you get better signal than the official hotspot the computers usually pick your hotspot first. This was even covered in The Real Hustle many seasons ago.

    And for that matter, you're in a insecure place connecting via some random network. Its just stupid.

    1. Re:Old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I cracked my own network in minutes using this method. Can someone point me to a less complicated method?

      When I need to get into just about any secure network, this hacking multitool is what I use: CB G.Freeman.

      It can crack arbitrarily high amounts of encryption when applied to the proper segment of the network. It works very well, often only taking seconds to provide you with the authentication you require. It also can do wonders on conventional locking systems.

      Enjoy!

    2. Re:Old by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And for that matter, you're in a insecure place connecting via some random network. Its just stupid.

      But very convenient. You'd be surprised how much Stupid you can get for Convenience.

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    3. Re:Old by interkin3tic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think it's more ignorance. Of a fairly technical issue, at least for most people. A little bit of self-defensiveness there, I'm far less computer literate than most /. users and had no idea that WEP had been broken for 8 years.

      Granted, I wasn't assuming it was safe, doing online banking while on an unknown network in a crowded airport. I've only used my nintendo DS on them. Now I guess I can't even do that, assholes always trying to steal me level 40 Charizard...

    4. Re:Old by mcrbids · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You forgot to mention that it's also not relevant.

      The Internet itself is "insecure". It is so by design, so if the purpose of the Wifi is to get to teh iNternetz then there is logically no substantial value to encrypting your hotspot.

      Practically, I can only think of two benefits:

      1) Prevent neighbors from leeching bandwidth and making your YT videos "skippy".

      2) Prevent neighbors from sharing MP3s on your connection so that the RIAA sues you. Of course, if you don't secure your connection, you have plausible deniability when they sue....

      Now, if you are actually running a local NETWORK, (EG: printer sharing, etc) then things change a bit. But even then, it's sensible to secure your services so that security issues don't plague you. Since all my company's resources need to be "roadable", we don't bother with VPNs and instead just used all encrypted protocols. (EG: rather than SMB, we use DAV over HTTPS, SMTPS/IMAPS for email, etc)

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    5. Re:Old by girlintraining · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He doesn't own and operate that router... which is a key point here.

      In that case, why is he trusting any device that is outside his administrative control, and has no contractual agreement or working relationship of any kind, with the owner of said device? O.o

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    6. Re:Old by Weedhopper · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If your system hasn't been compromised, it doesn't matter.

      You could do your banking on an open, unsecured network, no WEP, no WPA, etc because your traffic between you and your banking institution has been encrypted from point to point.

      That said, if I were you, I wouldn't do it.

    7. Re:Old by BrokenHalo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If your system hasn't been compromised, it doesn't matter.

      It would if the network points to a poisoned DNS cache.

    8. Re:Old by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 2, Informative

      Your education is your responsibility. It's assumed that if you're installing a wifi router, you will do your homework on how to set it up and read all the included documentation.

      The local major DSL provider to me used to provide DSL modem/routers to their customers with built in wireless. The wireless was disabled by default.
      When you went through the initial setup, though (had to do it before the router would let you online) it encouraged you - strongly...it would have been hard for a non-techie user to figure out how to avoid it - to enable wireless.
      When setting up the encryption, it had four radio button options that looked like this:

      O No encryption.
      O 64 bit WEP
      O 128 bit WEP (recommended)
      O WPA-PSK

      So the recommended option was something that could be broken into in 15 minutes or so.

      About a year ago, they stopped distributing those routers, and started sending out a different type, that come by default with 128 bit WEP enabled, and with the customer's username/password pre-programmed, so the documentation just says "Your router is preconfigured. Just plug it in, and it will connect and work properly."

      Microsoft's web site says if you must use WEP, change your key once a month, so if somebody gets the key, they'll be locked out again. So out of the 43200 minutes in an average month, you'll only be vulnerable for 43185 of them if you follow Microsoft's advice.

      Most of the computer stores in my city are still using WEP on their networks. If the customer hires them to set up their network properly, they'll still end up hackable.

      Then, on top of that, very few techs even know of the vulnerabilities in WPA. If you use a passphrase that's in a dictionary/wordlist/phraselist somewhere, you can still be broken into, even using WPA. It's a little harder, as it requires a legitimately connected client, which WEP doesn't, but it also doesn't require anywhere near the amount of wireless traffic collection that WEP does.
      30 seconds will typically be long enough to collect the data you need, then you can go crack remotely, whereas WEP requires 5-15 minutes worth of data collection.

      The bottom line is, you can't trust the documentation, you can't trust the advice from the "experts," and you can't trust articles you read on the Internet. The only real way to be secure is to ask somebody who knows how to break into these things if they can break into yours. If they can't, you're probably safe.

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  2. What's the big deal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What's the big deal? Why worry about the insecurity of the local wireless network when you're connecting to the Internet... hello, it's insecure!! If your computer isn't secure it doesn't matter whether the local network is or isn't, your computer is still insecure. If you are doing things across the network that you want to keep private and you aren't doing them over SSL/SSH/VPN you are an idiot regardless of whether the local wifi uses WEP, WPA2, or no encryption at all.

    1. Re:What's the big deal? by DamnStupidElf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Because someday you're going to run some program locally that for whatever reason wants to bind the 0.0.0.0 address and listen on some port. Web server, database server, chat client, p2p client, whatever. Unless you run netstat -a all the time, you don't *know* that there isn't something listening.

  3. Ad-Hoc not a danger by royallthefourth · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In every wifi GUI tool I've used, ad-hoc networks show up with a special icon. I don't know about the public in general, but any decent Slashdot reader should know better than to connect to one!

    1. Re:Ad-Hoc not a danger by PPH · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Its not that difficult to run a managed network off a laptop. So filtering out the ad-hoc ones will only eliminate the stupid black hats.

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  4. How is this dangerous to a normal user? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How can this affect a normal user? Aren't HTTPS sites and other safe regardless of this?

    1. Re:How is this dangerous to a normal user? by sopssa · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What about if the hotspot doesn't actually give the user the real page, but instead phishing page? I doubt many normal users notice that HTTPS isn't on. Or like in the above The Real Hustle video, "for $1 you can get one hour of surfing time, just enter your credit card details" and you probably can guess what happens from there.

    2. Re:How is this dangerous to a normal user? by causality · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What about if the hotspot doesn't actually give the user the real page, but instead phishing page? I doubt many normal users notice that HTTPS isn't on. Or like in the above The Real Hustle video, "for $1 you can get one hour of surfing time, just enter your credit card details" and you probably can guess what happens from there.

      I don't doubt that the people who run such scams are doing something evil but this irrational insistence people have of using what they do not understand and then acting shocked if something goes wrong is in need of some serious "Darwinism" or "artificial selection" or whatever you like to call it. The basics of how to protect yourself are not that difficult to understand, the information is out there, and any literate adult can educate himself as easily as searching via Google. If putting a price on that kind of rampant ignorance is the only way to give it an incentive to be remedied, then so be it.

      It shouldn't be that way. People should care enough to guard the things that are important to them, like the kinds of personal information phishing pages could harvest. The reasons why they don't seem to be rooted in apathy combined with a strong feeling that basic competency (which is a far cry from expertise) is some kind of horrible undue burden that is completely unreasonable to expect of them. There is a great deal of arrogance in the belief that safeguarding things that matter to you should always the responsibility of someone else, be it Microsoft or the airport or whomever. When that kind of hubris leads to problems, what legitimate complaint do they have? Why are they so often portrayed as helpless victims instead of held up as examples of negligence, of what not to do?

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  5. Ahh, the old "Free Public WiFi" issue by DigitalSorceress · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ever notice an SSID for "Free Public WiFi" just pop up while you're at your place of work?

    When I first saw these, I assumed "someone got infected with some trojan which sets them up to pretend to be an open WiFi either to do a man-in-the-middle attack, or to infect my system with some kind of worm."

    After a bit of digging, I discovered that this was actually not malicious, but was a viral-like spread due to some strange way that one of the MS Operating systems was handling ad-hoc wireless connections.

    Here's a 2006 advisory on the issue
    http://www.nmrc.org/pub/advise/20060114.txt

    Here's a less technical explanation (in case you have to convert it to "boss speak")
    http://erratasec.blogspot.com/2007/01/ad-hoc-wifi-virus.html

    So, pretty much everyone says it's harmless.

    However, my initial suspicians (about MitM or worm infections) could easily be made to come true, and anyone who google'd it would say "oh, I guess it's that 2006 thing, no worries"

    Of course, being an ad-hoc node, it'll be kinda obvious to most geeks... and of course, most geeks would probably make sure they were tunneling or otherwise using the network safely anyhow.

    John Q. Public on the other hand? hoo boy. ... AND it doesn't help that so many products, in the name of making things easier on John Q. Public, will just auto-associate when they see an available connection.

    I don't really know where I'm going with all this except to say "Never trust any network outside your own, never EVER trust the Interwebs, and only trust your own network as far as you have to in order to make things work... especially if you're not the only one using it.", but you knew that already.

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    1. Re:Ahh, the old "Free Public WiFi" issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      A few years ago, I was at a SANS security course being hosted at the University of Minnesota. One of the tools we were using was Cain & Abel. The people at the university who had set up Wi-Fi for the class of 125 students had done a horrible job, a bunch of Apple Airports, all sharing the same SSID and the same channel, and each performing their own NATing. You'd bounce between APs and get IP collisions as you'd hit someone who already had that IP on the other AP. It was a total joke, and if you were lucky, you'd maybe get 10-20 minutes of working internet before it'd die again. So, I bought a day pass from the Starbucks access point in the lobby downstairs, which was very reliable by comparison. I then remembered I had my little Apple Airport Express in my bag that I carried with me for when I traveled to hotels that didn't have wireless, so I could set up my own network and sit in the bed, rather than at a desk chair. I used that to create an infrastructure wireless access point called "Free Better Internet" and routed all the traffic through my laptop back to the Starbucks AP downstairs. People would get so frustrated using the shoddy supplied internet that they'd try the other SSIDs they'd see in the list. I then turned on Cain & Abel, and within a couple of hours, I had over 700 username & password combinations, and this was in a class where they handed me the tool to do it on the class CD, and we were talking about it! The looks on my classmates faces when I showed them their usernames and passwords were priceless. I was amazed that large research schools weren't even using SSL on their IMAP connections, and I had a ton of AIM and ICQ passwords, not to mention dozens of web site passwords, even my co-worker's password to her World of Warcraft Guild web site! :) The moral of the story, is that even "smart" people, who know exactly what the risks are, and who know how to use a VPN, will give up a LOT of security in exchange for free internet access!

    2. Re:Ahh, the old "Free Public WiFi" issue by PhxBlue · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The moral of the story, is that even "smart" people, who know exactly what the risks are, and who know how to use a VPN, will give up a LOT of security in exchange for free internet access!

      But how much security are we really talking about? I'd be pissed if someone got my AIM or ICQ login credentials, but that wouldn't be the end of the world for me. And I don't play World of Warcraft, though I guess you could attach a pretty high dollar value to some WOW accounts.

      The real question is, did you get passwords for secure sites such as bank sites or other financial Web pages? If not, then it's very likely that these "smart" people understood the risk and chose to accept it.

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  6. Not great to begin with by TClevenger · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was in an airport a couple of weeks ago (Denver?) The WiFi was "free", but they proxied all of your traffic through their servers and used that to encapsulate all web sites into a frame with advertisements above. They did allow SSH, so I just bypassed them by proxying my traffic through an SSH tunnel to my home machine.

  7. relay by digitalsushi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While I was at University, there was often someone broadcasting the SSID "UNH-Wireless" in their Memorial Building. The official SSID was just unhwireless. UNH required you to register your MAC before they would forward your packets to the Internet, but the rogue SSID was open. Since the Memorial Building was where all the visitors ended up for lunch after tours, I wonder how many delicious things were intercepted.

    (New Hampshire is the one that touches the ocean. The other one is Vermont, which is the one that touches Canadia.)

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  8. SSL? by captaindomon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This article contains a lot of FUD. If you're banking or anything important money-wise you're probably using SSL with a signed certificate, even if you're a Joe Sixpack. If I'm doing anything work related I'm on a VPN. You should never, ever, trust that your connection through the "internets" is secure anyway. Wireless access doesn't change anything about that. This article is just trying to gain attention by using fear.

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    1. Re:SSL? by causality · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This article contains a lot of FUD. If you're banking or anything important money-wise you're probably using SSL with a signed certificate, even if you're a Joe Sixpack. If I'm doing anything work related I'm on a VPN. You should never, ever, trust that your connection through the "internets" is secure anyway. Wireless access doesn't change anything about that. This article is just trying to gain attention by using fear.

      There really is a tremendous amount of ignorance concerning the most basic knowledge of computers and networks. Of course, you can decide that if you are going to use a complex tool for important tasks, that it is wise to learn what you can about that tool so that you use it effectively. That you bear some responsibility is welcome news, for it means you have some control over whether you have a good experience. In fact you can be curious about how it works and enjoy discovering and learning new things. The mark of such people is that over time, they gradually get better and better as they gain experience and their knowledge expands.

      You can also insist that you have a God-given right to perform complex tasks with little or no understanding. You can then resent anyone who tells you that you bear at least some responsibility for this decision and for any undesirable events that result from it. You can decide that while lesser men may have to read up on a thing or learn about it, you are too special for that and will magically do everything that they do while investing no such effort. You can memorize a monotonous and robotic list of steps instead of developing any real understanding of what you are doing and why, causing interface changes to lead to "retraining costs." The mark of such people is that they are "permanent noobs" who can somehow manage to use a device for years and know nothing more about it than when they first started.

      The folks in that second category seem proud of it. They seem to view understanding the tools they use the same way the aristocracy of old felt about "fraternizing with the help." I am not glad when they encounter misfortune, but I don't consider them to be victims either.

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    2. Re:SSL? by Runaway1956 · · Score: 2, Informative

      You should read more. There's a book out, "Beautiful Security". There is a chapter devoted to airport wireless. Joe Sixpack doesn't look at the SSL certificate, doesn't even notice the little lock emblem. Even a lot of "sophisticated" people continue doing their banking, rationalizing the absence of the secure symbol. The author of the section has collected TONS of personal details by spoofing a WIFI service at an airport.

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  9. Airport wireless is shoddy anyway, half the time by King_TJ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Last time I was traveling, I was flying out to Portland, and I had connectivity issues with the free wi-fi offered by the airports. At one of them, I'd detect their SSID and successfully connect with a reasonably strong signal, but after going through their initial "terms of service" type page and using it for a couple minutes, I'd lose communications. The wi-fi said it was still connected but pings were just timing out and nothing would come up. I could disconnect, search for available wireless networks, and try to reconnect, which worked about half the time (but again, only for a few minutes).

    All things considered, I'd rather find and use a rogue offering, set up a VPN tunnel, and use THAT!

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  11. appallingly stupid study by kali · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No one should ever rely on the network layer for security, because networks are by nature insecure. Run traceroute sometime if you're curious to see how many nodes are located between your computer and your bank/stock broker/webmail. Every one of those nodes can see every one of your packets. The only solution is to use application layer encryption, and once you've done that, it doesn't matter who is spying on your traffic.

    You'll notice that this study was done by "AirTight Networks, a wireless security company." In other words, they are fear-mongering in order to try to sell more of their products. No matter how secure you make your wireless network, it still won't stop anyone even 1 hop away from seeing all of your traffic. As security professionals, the researchers from AirTight Networks know this, which makes their study all the more stupid and despicable.

  12. Re:Get to work! Here's how to crack WEP networks by davester666 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Connect to your wireless router via Ethernet and click the 'Show Password' checkbox?

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  13. Wrong by aywwts4 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sure if the network is truly adhoc, but these aren't, the hacker needs to get the wifi from somewhere, and more often than not it is the official airport/coffeeshop wifi.

    This is someone connecting to a wireless access point with their laptop, running the sniffing suite on the laptop, and running a portable access point out another ethernet jack or through USB. I have a great USB based access point that is able to repeat and share any signal I can get, I use it to route wifi over great distance over a cantenna and repeat it to all my devices, it will not show up as an ad hoc network. Mine is old they make them even better, smaller and cheaper now. Nobody is going to bat an eye at the hacker with a usb cable running into his laptop bag.

    PS: Firefox with a proxy including DNS + Putty running a dynamic proxy + A linux box at home (such as a low power tomato router) with SSH access + Priv/Pub ssh keys + DynDNS static IPs = 3 second complete encryption of everything no matter how sketchy the access point.

    PSS: People saying this isn't a problem, so much webmail is unsecured by default, so many passwords are emailed to users. Please just trust the security geeks, you are really really vulnerable to deep packet inspection and transparent proxies. Secondly you are trusting the blackhat's DNS, are you really going to notice when you go to paypal/etc and the HTTPS is missing just one time?

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    1. Re:Wrong by _avs_007 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      are you really going to notice when you go to paypal/etc and the HTTPS is missing just one time?

      I must really be a paranoid geek. I trained my wife to always look at the certificate, and inspect the trust chain, EVERY time she logs into the bank, etc...

    2. Re:Wrong by _avs_007 · · Score: 2

      Ok, here's the simplified rationale:

      Only X509 v3 and later certificates have the ability to identify if a certificate has signing privileges. So why don't we just require all certs to be v3? Simple, because VeriSign, and most of the other root authorities were commissioned before the v3 spec was ratified, therefore are using v1 certs.

      So browsers have to be able to tolerate V1 certs... How they behave when you have intermediate V1 certs, is a grey area...

      And contrary to what Mr. Potty mouth thinks, Firefox and IE both will "validate" the cert chain that I described. The reason being, I'm not talking about a leaf cert that is MARKED as being a non-signing cert being used to sign a leaf cert. I'm talking about a V1 cert that DOES NOT SAY if it's a signing cert, is used to sign a cert...

      This is a VERY important distinction, because if a cert is marked as a non-signing cert, than only a retarded browser will ignore that... But if you hvae a V1 cert, then a browser usually doesn't just toss the cert, because it IS STILL SPEC COMPLIANT, because it's simply an ambiguity (or oversight, depending on how you look at it) of the spec. This is one of the problems with backwards compatibility....

      In Firefox, it will display a lock icon, and display NO ERROR MESSAGES until you try to manually verify the certs by actually looking at the cert chain, then you will see that it simply stopped parsing the cert chain at the V1 intermediate cert.

      In IE, it will simply not load the page at all, but will not tell you why.

      But anyways, the important things to look for, is mainly the common name of the cert matches what you think it should say, (ie, Bank of America, etc). Then check the issuer name, matches the common name of the cert that issued it. Then check that the issuer cert, under "Basic Constraints" actually says, "Is a Certificate Authority", etc.

  14. Roman McDonalds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I noticed someone setup a wireless access point next to the McDonalds in Rome complete with the golden arches asking you to type in a valid pasport ID, date of birth, etc to get online. It was even secure https with some bogus versign.
    I asked the mcdonalds employees and they all said that there was no wireless. Sketch.

  15. VPN, SSH, or Unsecured- SSL isn't safe enough by billstewart · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you're checking the weather or airline schedules or Slashdot, it doesn't matter if you get eavesdropped on. If you're checking your work email, you want to be using an IPSEC VPN, so all your traffic is going to be protected inside that (unless you're doing split-tunnel...) and SSH is fine too.

    The tricky case is using SSL-protected websites, when you can't trust the DNS and network not to be redirecting you to some bogus cracker site. If you pay attention to the certificate details, you can be safe, but if you're not paying attention and hit the "Yeah, Sure, Whatever" button, then you're hosed. An SSL VPN connection to work may or may not be, if your company is using an SSL VPN appliance - are you using passwords or one-time-access tokens? Does the cracker know how to break in to that given your authentication, as opposed to just stealing credit card or bank passwords?

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  16. So what? by nurb432 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If i can get outside and not pay anything, why should i care that its not 'official'? Really, i'm not joking.

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  17. Re:Get to work! Here's how to crack WEP networks by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Funny

    "I cracked my own network in minutes using this method [lifehacker.com]. Can someone point me to a less complicated method?"

    Look for the PostIt on the bottom of the router. Or try the password on the PostIt on the underside of the keyboard - but only if the password on the PostIt on the monitor doesn't work.

  18. Re:VPNs are your friends by jroysdon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ditto. I take it a step further. For one, I SSH to my own box for which I've got the public key for already and if it is changed the SSH will fail and throw nasty "someone changed the key" errors. For two, I go into "silent" mode where I firewall and block all inbound connections and silently drop them (even ping) and even more I firewall and block all outbound connections except my one ssh connection. My ssh script connects to my IP, so no need to use DNS either. All traffic is proxied through my ssh connection and out my server, and anything that would somehow evade my proxy (java and javascript sometimes somehow have a hack around method to bypass a proxy setting on a host) - it doesn't matter because iptable is going to drop that outbound traffic and never allow it to leave my box.

    The only thing I usually have to do is first give a thumbs-up. For that, I have my usual locked-down inbound mode, all a "guest" Firefox profile that is set to no proxy and connect to hit the authentication/agreement terms page (for Starbucks, hotel wireless, etc.), and then once I get past that I flip my ssh script on which locks down my firewall and sshs to my system as described above.

    I'm not sure about how easy that'd be to do on a Windows box. Can you firewall a Windows box from not making any outbound connections? It's been a while since I ran Windows as a Host (when I must, I run them as VM guests). But that would be my recommendation to anyone.

  19. Yes, those were sensitive passwords by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 2, Interesting

    He mentioned getting email passwords, and with access to someone's email you can reset their passwords to more important sites. Not to mention that I've seen a place handling sensitive information that answered lost password requests by _mailing out the password_.