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China Bans Shock Treatment For Internet Addiction

angry tapir writes "China has banned the use of shock therapy to treat Internet addiction after its use at one hospital sparked nationwide controversy. The hospital drew wide media coverage in recent months after Internet users claiming to have received the treatment wrote in blogs and forums about being tied down and subjected to shocks for 30 minutes at a time."

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  1. Damn it by MyLongNickName · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nothing gave me more pleasure that thinking of WOW power levelers with electrodes attached to various body parts.

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    1. Re:Damn it by Cornflake917 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Really? You are weird.

  2. pic by Canazza · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Honestly, this seems like another human rights abuse... people should have the right to choose if they want to go through shock therapy!

    but did we really require the big pic there?

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    1. Re:pic by Hope+Thelps · · Score: 5, Funny

      Honestly, this seems like another human rights abuse... people should have the right to choose if they want to go through shock therapy!

      The right to an informed choice. But can someone in the throes of internet addiction really be said to be making a choice? This is why we keep shocking 'em until they consent to it. That's the begining of the path to recovery.

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    2. Re:pic by Psyborgue · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're modded funny by some people actually think that way, and not just about internet addiction, but pretty much anything deemed "undesireable" by society at large. Nails that stick out get nailed down, as they say... so be a good polite model citizen and you won't get "re-educated". This is hardly unique to china. Forced treatment exists in the US too, especially with teenagers.

    3. Re:pic by MrCrassic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This kind of reminds me of an article I read some time ago in the Wall Street Journal regarding how mental illness is treated in China. Parents that can't afford healthcare for their mentally-ill children lock them up in cages, while some that can have been duped to going to hospitals for treatment, only to scar (or nearly kill) their children even further and be completely, shit-out-of-luck broke. One of these operations involved removing parts of the patient's brain outright.

      I wish I could find these articles; they were great reads (though a bit sensational).

  3. Oh, I get it "sparked controversy" by dmomo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In other news... "Internet addicts treated with electricity". The real story here is that this is there to be banned in the first place.

    1. Re:Oh, I get it "sparked controversy" by NotBornYesterday · · Score: 3, Funny

      Those bastards. Now how the hell am I supposed support my electroshock addiction?

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  4. Re:Chinese "Nationwide Controversy?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does China even have such a thing as "nationwide controvery"?

    Yes.

    Or is the "nation" here the United States? Or maybe Canada?

    No. It means China. You ought to get out more - there's a whole world out here. We have controversies and everything.

  5. Re:Chinese "Nationwide Controversy?" by maeka · · Score: 5, Informative

    Does China even have such a thing as "nationwide controvery"? Or is the "nation" here the United States? Or maybe Canada?

    I'll chalk this one up to western ignorance over how much the Chinese public actually knows, not blatant bias.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal#Chinese_public

  6. Before anyone asks about Western shock therapy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When electroconvulsive therapy (ECT) is used in psychiatric settings here in the West, patients are completely unconscious and pumped full of muscle relaxants to keep them from jumping all over the table. Since they're unconscious, they feel no pain.. completely different from what the Chinese seem to be doing, which seeks to use electric shock as painful punishment for too much WOW.
    Needless to say, I didn't RTFA.

  7. More like Ineffective by TTURabble · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The hospital drew wide media coverage in recent months after Internet users claiming to have received the treatment wrote in blogs and forums

    So the internet addicted patients used the internet to complain about the problems with the internet addiction treatment?

  8. Quacks by Demonantis · · Score: 3, Informative

    That is not shock treatment. The currently accepted method of shock therapy is designed to treat epilepsy. They were using it for negative reinforcement. Its just as effective as torturing someone. This is definitely a human rights violation and the genius behind this should be punished.

    1. Re:Quacks by Hyppy · · Score: 2, Informative

      According to Wikipedia, it is also used for various psychological disorders, including depression and schizophrenia.

    2. Re:Quacks by Psyborgue · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's currently going onin the United States and nobody is getting punished. It's "aversion therapy". This article on the Judge Rotenberg Center will make you wretch, i guarantee.

  9. Re:Reminds me of the scene from Ghostbusters.... by Utini420 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Everyone brings up that scene as if Vaikman was messing up his experiment just to flirt with the chick, but that ignores his true brilliance. Sure, he fudges the test for her -- she clearly is not psychic, she's just there as a control, so it really doesn't matter if she ever gets shocked or not. It isn't like he's testing electrocution of normal folks. But as for the guy, how is seemingly shocked for giving the right answers -- that's the whole experiment. Vaikman even says so: "I'm studying the effects of negative reinforcement on ESP ability." In other words, will you keep being psychic even if you get electrocuted for it.

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  10. Re:Doesn't hurt them? by MozeeToby · · Score: 2, Informative

    First and foremost, there's two kinds of electro-shock therapy. One is simple aversion therapy, putting the person in front of the computer and when they try to open the browser a painful shock is given. That doesn't sound like what they are trying to accomplish here so I'll assume that it is the second kind, the kind which actually tries to change the way a person thinks and feels about memories.

    Done correctly there's nothing inherently wrong with that kind of shock therapy, it's even made something of a minor resurgance in the US for treating PTSD and depression. The idea is that you shock the brain while it is remembering the dramatic memory, cuasing the brain to either fail to store the memory or to store the memory without the emotional content.

    And the crazy thing is that it actually works pretty much as advertised. The problem is that there is no garauntee that the patient is thinking 100% about what you told them to think about; people's minds wander and if the person just happens to be thinking about something important to them, significant damage can be done to the persons memory. Obviously, the people being treated were not giving their informed consent for those procedures, nor does it seem to me that 30 minutes at a time (if accurate) is the correct way to administer the treatment.

  11. Re:Reminds me of the scene from Ghostbusters.... by damontal · · Score: 2, Informative

    I just watched it again and they're both getting the answers wrong. only the girl isn't being shocked, whereas the guy is. the only one he gets correct is the last one (a couple of squiggly lines) before freaking out and leaving.

  12. Re:Doesn't hurt them? by GungaDan · · Score: 5, Informative

    The most prevalent "shock therapy" currently in use in the US is electro-convulsive therapy (ECT). It is used to treat major depression that is not responsive to drugs. It has nothing to do with retrieving or "erasing" memories, only with zapping the brain in hopes that neurochemical imbalances will be alleviated during its recovery from the trauma (shock), and hopefully for some time after.

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  13. Re:Before anyone asks about Western shock therapy. by Psyborgue · · Score: 2, Informative

    This isn't ECT. This appears to be aversion therapy. Just because it's done wrong and the shocking last long doesn't make it any different. The same has happened at Judge Rotenberg Center in the United States where a slightly more brutal form is used (kids permanently strapped to devices triggered by remote control).

  14. Re:Doesn't hurt them? by EricTheMad · · Score: 2, Informative
    The biggest problem here is that it was used as a form of punishment. It was basically torture, not therapy.

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-07/14/content_8426874.htm

    According to the Guangdong-based Information Times, shocks were given if patients broke any of the center's 86 rules, which included prohibitions on eating chocolate, locking the bathroom door, taking pills before a meal, and sitting in Dr. Yang's chair without permission.

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  15. Re:Doesn't hurt them? by BabyDuckHat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Which is evidence that, when it come to the mind, we're still just cavemen bashing things with rocks.