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Brazil Demands Repatriation of UK Hazardous Waste

Peace Corps Online writes "BBC reports that Brazilian authorities are demanding the return of more than 1,400 tons of hazardous British waste found in about 90 shipping containers on three Brazilian docks. The waste, which includes syringes, condoms, and bags of blood, has been identified as being of UK origin from the names of British supermarkets and newspapers among the rubbish. Reports in the UK media say the waste was sent from Felixstowe in eastern England to the port of Santos, near Sao Paulo, and two other ports in the southern state of Rio Grande do Sul. The British government has launched an investigation into how and why the waste was sent to Brazil and the British Embassy in Brazil has said in a statement that it was investigating and would 'not hesitate to act' if it was found that a UK company had violated the Basel Convention on the movement of hazardous waste. Meanwhile Brazil is demanding the immediate return of the rubbish to the UK. 'We will ask for the repatriation of this garbage,' says Roberto Messias, head of the Brazilian environment agency. 'Clearly, Brazil is not a big rubbish dump of the world.'" Two UK companies named by Brazil as suspected exporters of the waste are owned by a Brazilian, based in the UK, who says that anything that was in the containers other than the expected recyclable plastic is a problem to take up with his suppliers.

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  1. Why is this on Slashdot ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is this on Slashdot ?

    1. Re:Why is this on Slashdot ? by vivaoporto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I second that. There is absolutely no direct involvement of technology in any aspect of this news. Not even something a so called "nerd", if interested, would look for to discuss on this particular website.

      This is nothing but a pitiful attempt to flamebait the British, the Brazilian and the peanut gallery over here for more ad clicks.

    2. Re:Why is this on Slashdot ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because despite what you may think, it *is* "stuff that matters" (and by that I mean how big companies/governement - for now there's still a difference - are handling waste).

    3. Re:Why is this on Slashdot ? by Bearhouse · · Score: 2, Informative

      Because it's a slow news day?
      "News for nerds" my ass...

    4. Re:Why is this on Slashdot ? by watergeus · · Score: 5, Funny
    5. Re:Why is this on Slashdot ? by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 3, Funny

      Like clockwork.

  2. Wow. Truth really IS so much stranger than fiction by Datamonstar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Douglas Adams himself would have a difficult time thinking up something so blunderingly, amazingly stupid and steeped in political dumb-fuckery. I find myself compelled, forced even, to complete a piece of fan fiction regarding a massive garbage freighter being sent repeatedly back and forth between two planets like a giant, stinky and half-rotten tennis ball because two governments couldn't get it straight which one of them tossed out the first banana peel. I think it has merit.

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  3. riiiiight.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    who says that anything that was in the containers other than the expected recyclable plastic is a problem to take up with his suppliers.

    Did he ship it? Did his company sign the manifests and declarations? Did his company pay the mooring fees? Sorry, that's the cost of doing business. It's his problem.

    "I didn't know what was in the bag" doesn't work for smugglers.

    1. Re:riiiiight.... by Nick+Ives · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, it really is a problem for his suppliers. I brought the site I work on into compliance with EU waste regulations and one of the principles is that waste remains the responsibility of the producer. If the Waste Transfer Notes for the shipments said the containers were full of recyclable plastic then the person who shipped the waste in good faith isn't liable.

      Given the volume of waste involved then this looks like a screw-up at a waste management company somewhere. Quite how they could've mixed up plastic with hazardous waste (two sets of regulations!) I have no idea. Still, whoever produced the waste (probably several organisations) should be very worried. Waste remains the responsibility of the producer until final disposal!

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  4. Could be worse. by bobdotorg · · Score: 4, Funny

    I hear that the Port of Buenos Aires was sent 31 shipping containers of British food.

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    1. Re:Could be worse. by bobdotorg · · Score: 4, Funny

      Brits eat waste?

      Yes. Although they sometimes call it pudding.

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    2. Re:Could be worse. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2, Funny

      Only if they've eaten their meat beforehand.

    3. Re:Could be worse. by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Funny

      Reminds me of the old saw:
      Heaven - Where the police are British, the lovers Italian, the chefs French, the cars German, all organized by the Swiss.
      Hell - Where the police are German, the lovers Swiss, the chefs British, the cars French, all organized by the Italians.

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  5. Re:Wow. Truth really IS so much stranger than fict by Shikaku · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is why we should make a giant ball of garbage and shoot it into space!

  6. Black Puddings by wjh31 · · Score: 4, Funny

    When comming from supermarkets, i believe the correct term for a bag of blood is a black pudding.

  7. And the problem is... what? by tingeber · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't know much about garbage, but 1.400 tons doesn't sound like an enormous number, considering the USA produces 220 milion tons a year.
    Plus, it seems like a simple problem of foul play between companies, why does the government get involved?
    I know waste disposal is a huge problem, but this sounds like attention-whoring.

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    1. Re:And the problem is... what? by petermgreen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Plus, it seems like a simple problem of foul play between companies, why does the government get involved?
      because at one stage companies in developed countries were pushing thier waste problems on to less developed countries where they were far less likely to be dealt with in a safe and environmentally friendly manner.

      It was decided this was a bad thing and so international agreements were signed forbidding it. Someone has broken that agreement and it is now the governments job to punish them for doing so.

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  8. It's happened before in real life by SteveFoerster · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Mobro 4000 was a garbage barge that had to cruise back and forth between the U.S. and Central America back in the '80s.

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  9. Re:Have you been there? Rubbish has more flavour! by funkatron · · Score: 2, Informative

    You obviously didn't order the mushy peas or the "curry sauce". Tons of flavour, tho probably not to your taste.

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  10. Hopefully this makes the article a bit more pallet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since the article does not touch on it, and the information i will be presenting IS related to technology, i will hope that my lack of account (i just don't have one) will not be too much of a hindrance.

    Sending one country's waste to other countries may seem like a fluke, but in fact it's a pretty big illegal industry. PBS FRONTLINE/world did a show on how old computer and technology hardware was being sent to third world countries in bulk and outside of legal channels. For those looking for the connection to 'news for nerds' this is probably as close as you can get. The old hardware is given to recycling companies who then give it to 'other companies' which ship it to third world countries where it's essentially dumped on the poor. Think parts of India, Ghana and China. The citizenry then break/corrode/melt the materials (out of necessity) using extremely toxic and unsafe means in order to sell the various valuable pieces. Furthermore, many of the hardware pieces are still in near working order, things like harddrives specifically can still be hooked up and read accurately (at one point in the show they get a harddrive from one of the dumps and it has a whole album of family photos on it, as well as financial information).

    Anyways, if anyone is interested in how this practice works and why it exists, here is the link to the story as well as the video: http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/ghana804/

  11. Re:Hopefully this makes the article a bit more pal by hernol · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is how First World countries grow and control the world, by shitting Third World countries. It's a nice article about how UK doesnt give a f*** about other countries. And this is in slashdot because they sent their waste to the "wrong" country, this happens all the time in Africans and poor Asian countries, but you just dont hear of it.

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  12. Re:Hopefully this makes the article a bit more pal by OneSmartFellow · · Score: 3, Informative

    OK, OK, let's clarify something. The UK Govt. did not send this waste to Brazil - if they had it would have ended up in Borneo, but I digress - a private company did.

    Yes, there are rules about this sort of thing, but they are actually relatively difficult to enforce.

    The fact is that some private company in Brazil, probably owned at least in part, by some very senior Brazilian officials, contracted to receive this waste, knowing full well what it contained. They got busted, and of course, claimed innocence.

    "Medical waste, Oh, we thought it was Medical paste, WTF, send this stuff back !"