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How To Help With a University ICT Strategy?

An anonymous reader writes "I have been asked to contribute to my university's revised ICT (Information and Communication Technology) strategy and I am curious what fellow Slashdot members consider to be the main advice in this context. What are the major mistakes that organizations like universities make? Given the complexity of the different participants in a university, how does one have a coherent strategy that fulfills the needs of such a wide audience? How does one promote open source in a managerial culture? How does one deal with the curse of the virtual learning environment?"

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  1. What are the mistakes that universities make? by Culture20 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I saw askslashdot in the tag line and thought it answered this question.

    1. Re:What are the mistakes that universities make? by williamhb · · Score: 1

      I think I speak for all of Slashdot when I say that the answer to his question is:
      1. Open source rules
      2. Send every RIAA executive to burn in hell
      3. Make an angry post about how hell is an unscientific concept
      4. In Soviet Russia, mistakes make universities
      5. ???
      6. Profit.

  2. Idealism blows when the rubber meets the road by opec · · Score: 2, Informative

    I am almost finished with my undergrad at a large public university. I worked in several of the branch libraries during my years here, including a full-time stint this summer. The computers in our library allow anyone to use one application: IE7. We have no time limit on computer usage or have any web filtering. The problems that arise from misuse of these computers from non-university community members are astounding. In just one branch library here this year alone, several incidents have been reported of non-university people masturbating to Internet porn. All incidents were reported to staff by young female co-eds, who were visibly traumatized by the experience. These kinds of folks have also brought along other problems for us to deal with: drug use and selling, theft of personal property, theft of library materials (including computer peripherals), etc etc.

    With incidents like these in mind, don't let idealism confound your tech policies. Think of the people who are going to interact with the public that are using university technology. It is maddening to have your hands tied by some lofty IT person's idealistic vision of free data access for all when you're trying to deal with serious breaches of public safety.

    1. Re:Idealism blows when the rubber meets the road by bugnuts · · Score: 1, Funny

      I'm traumatized just thinking about touching the keyboard.

    2. Re:Idealism blows when the rubber meets the road by BForrester · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Serious breaches of public safety should be dealt with by security and/or the police. There's no sense in crippling technology that is necessary to the greater student body in order to make things difficult for a few stray pervs.

    3. Re:Idealism blows when the rubber meets the road by opec · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm complaining about IT overreach in power. As it stands now, one over-zealous IT guy at the top is preventing the librarians from taking any steps toward rectifying misuse of technology. For example, it would help us out tremendously to switch the computers that are in unsupervised corners of the library to authenticated log-in use only (like WiFi) and allow free public access in areas that can be surveyed by library workers at all times. We want to protect the safety of our real patrons while still welcoming the general public to surf safely on the web for free. The idealistic jerk at the top is preventing us from changing anything.

    4. Re:Idealism blows when the rubber meets the road by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Why do you feel the need to point out that these were young, female co-eds? Does that make it worse somehow?

      Yes, it called chivalry it may be mostly dead but not entirely. Among the heterosexual male population the desire to protect and shelter females is ingrained into the genetic code.

      Because I'm a man, am I supposed to be LESS traumatized?

      I damn well hope so. Fairy.

      Drug use and selling? Theft of property? you're sure these were the SAME people that were masturbating?

      It is certainly possible that these are to different groups and there are public mastrubators who are not selling drugs and druggies who are not publicly masturbating but I think the point is I don't want either in my library or on my network.

      Let me guess, you vote Republican. Fucking scumbag. I wouldn't let your ilk in my library.

      I missed it when the DNC endorsed public mastrubators or when the ACLU came out to declare this First Amendment free expression. I'm more worried about being the next one to use the terminal. It gives new meaning to sticky keys.

    5. Re:Idealism blows when the rubber meets the road by JaneTheIgnorantSlut · · Score: 1, Funny

      Clearly they need to restrict masturbation to only university community members.

    6. Re:Idealism blows when the rubber meets the road by gnapster · · Score: 1

      ...I believe that you need the right tools for the job when moderating.

      Especially when moderating from a publicly-usable university library computer with IE7.

    7. Re:Idealism blows when the rubber meets the road by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      Why would it help tremendously?

      How many incidents are we talking about here? I mean really. Are there THAT many people who go and jerk off in "out of the way spots" in the library? I mean, I could see it being a bit more in a university, mostly because of the number of teenage boys who are notorious risk takers but.... still. It just doesn't seem like something more than a small number of people would engage in.

      Also, there are ways to get around technology. However, nothing stops crime like increasing the likelyhood of getting caught. Shit, put up some fake camera domes and see who jerks off in the corner with a visible "camera" that might be pointed at them.... is that so hard?

      Hell, put up real cameras! Be really progressive and post that there is a policy of overwriting the tapes every few days, so there is no danger of film of you picking up a controversial book haunting you years down the road. The vast majority of complaints will come in fast enough to put the appropriate tapes aside for evidence. The rest well... its not intended to be a panecea, just to make public pud pullers go elsewhere.

      Then consider well... I mean.... its a bit of a shock to catch someone polishing their knob, and a surporize in the library but... traumatizing? Um.... whats wrong with these girls? No seriously.... theres nothing there aside from the fact that its in a library that should be so shocking really. I mean, the vast majority of men they know, and many women, engage in this act every single day... just not in a library.

      -Steve

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    8. Re:Idealism blows when the rubber meets the road by Zerth · · Score: 1

      How's about instead of relying on IT to handle of physical security, take all the computers in back corners and put them in central locations visible to the staff and public. Locking everything down won't prevent your pervs from shoulder surfing.

      I'm suprised you haven't had a problem with people nicking the ram/mice/etc.

    9. Re:Idealism blows when the rubber meets the road by Kaboom13 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If someone is jerking off in public, call the cops. There are creeps and weirdos that come to any public place, ever been to a bus/train station? If someone is traumatized by seeing someone jerking off, they need counseling. Not for ther "trauma" of seeing someone jerking off, but because something so mundane made them feel "traumatized". It's gross, not traumatic. You call the cops, have the guy tossed out for indecent exposure, and move on with your life. Years of sexual abuse as a child? That's trauma. Being forcibly raped? That's trauma. Seeing a guy beat off in public? That's unpleasant. Your IT guy wisely realizes that not impeding the access of other, law abiding patrons of the library is more important then protecting some oversensitive co-ed's sensibilities. Briefly glimpsing a penis (I assume it would be brief, it's not like anyone is gonna hold them down and force them to look) is not the end of the world.

      Personally, as long as they do it quietly and clean up after themselves, I would rather have guys jerking it in the corner then women at the next table over talking to their girlfriends about their periods and vaginal infections on their cellphone while I was studying. Yes, that has happened to me, more then once.

      Furthermore, your admin is also helping prevent you from wasting university resources. Filtering systems DO NOT WORK. Keyword based systems block more legitimate content then illegitimate. Blacklist based systems block only a tiny fraction of sites, and anyone horny and frustrated enough to wank it in a library is going to keep looking until they find something, and will still cause plenty of false positives. A system that forces users to authenticate won't solve the problem because
      A. The computers will hardly ever be used, because of the inconvenience, making them a waste of resources in the first place.
      B. People will walk away and leave them logged in on a routine basis, making it easy for someone looking for an out of the way place to hop on and look at porn to jump on someones computer (assuming they don't just get their own account) and any evidence will be blamed to someone else.
      C. It still requires someone to catch them "in the act", which is what this is all about preventing anyways.

      Sounds like he's the pragmatist. He realizes trying to prevent people from looking at porn on library computers is an impossible task, and not worth the effort and inconvenience to the patrons. You are the idealist, with a lofty vision of a world where you can control everything, and people never accidentally see things they would rather not.

    10. Re:Idealism blows when the rubber meets the road by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Why is it the job of the University to provide free public internet access? Isn't that what public libraries are for?

      At our library, we have a few (25) terminals running IE 7 only, and yes, the general public can walk up & use them without logging in, but only for a few services on the campus network (eg, the Library catalogue). If they try to go anywhere else, a NoCat server kicks in and prompts them for a campus computing ID. We provide time-limited guest IDs for community users that will allow them to get past the NoCat wall, but only if they show us an appropriate photo ID and agree to follow our campus computing policies.

      The rest of our public computing (120 full-featured workstations) requires a login up front. No campus computing ID, no access. And the guest IDs don't work on those either. Not our mandate to provide free word processing to members of the general public, when we have students lined up around the block (see point about public libraries, above).

      What I'm getting at is that it's possible to provide a balance between security and information access. Providing anonymous access to everyone who enters the facility is just asking for trouble. We used to do that, and we used to get hate mail regularly traced back to our IPs. Not so much anymore.

    11. Re:Idealism blows when the rubber meets the road by techess · · Score: 1

      When I was in college there weren't computers in the library other than the electronic card catalog boxes, and it seemed like several times a month there would be an entry in the college news "crimes" section about someone being caught masturbating in the library. For some reason college age guys masturbate in libraries. I guess now they have something to look at.

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    12. Re:Idealism blows when the rubber meets the road by Quothz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Filtering systems DO NOT WORK.

      I'd argue that, in an academic environment, they do the opposite of work. Psychology, sociology, biology, anthropology, history, medicine, law, zoology, various arts, and I'm sure several other disciplines might need information that a filtration system would block. Free data access isn't just an idealistic vision, like the GP claims, it's important in a university setting.

    13. Re:Idealism blows when the rubber meets the road by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 1

      ...I believe that you need the right tools for the job when moderating.

      Especially when moderating from a publicly-usable university library computer with IE7.

      and a really sticky, smelly keyboard...

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    14. Re:Idealism blows when the rubber meets the road by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      I wont disagee. Though, one or two cameras, and three or four fakes, would probably do a lot to discourage people.

      There is often some amount of feeling that a University is part of the community that it is in. I worked at one where residents of the area surrounding the gym were allowed access to use the facilities. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Library do similar.

      It would be a shame to see a few bad apples ruin it for everyone. Cameras ae fairly cheap, and allow these people to be caught by police, rather than just shoved off onto the rest of the community.

      -Steve

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      "I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
    15. Re:Idealism blows when the rubber meets the road by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      You failed to address the relationship to IE7 in your well worded response sir knight.

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    16. Re:Idealism blows when the rubber meets the road by cyphercell · · Score: 1

      Whatever, this is a classic case of an idiot dragging someone down to his level. Some dude whacks off on you, I'm not going to call you a fairy if you feel a little traumatized.

      I don't really care if you pop-off and bust the dudes nose or scream like a girl running up to the circulation desk, you ain't the freak whacking off in the library.

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      Under the influence of Post-Cyberpunk Gonzo Journalism
  3. Don't push it by Alarindris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How does one promote open source in a managerial culture?

    By using it only when it's the best solution. Don't push it if it's not the best tool for the job.

    1. Re:Don't push it by psychodelicacy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Give OSS as an option. At my university, most of the public computers run Windows, and have MS software as the only options. If I'm lucky, I get to use Firefox instead of IE. A lot of people are used to using this stuff, so fine by me if the University wants to have it there for them. But it doesn't cost anything to install some open source stuff alongside the Microsoft programs. The problem you'll have, I would guess, is persuading people that this isn't going to involve lots of support costs in terms of training IT staff. Yeah, I know, but people are funny like that. They assume that anything open source will be arcane, virus-ridden, and completely impossible for the average user to understand.

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    2. Re:Don't push it by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      How does one promote open source in a managerial culture?

      By using it only when it's the best solution. Don't push it if it's not the best tool for the job.

      That might work in a managerial culture. In a university, it will only work if you have a large SWAT team and are willing to use it. Getting a university to evolve is impossible. It is frozen in amber. The OP should run away as far as he can.

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  4. Re:Mod me down you liberal pantywaists! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Niggers! Spics! Kikes!

    Snickers! Pies! Kites!

    There, fixed that for ya.

  5. Google by sys.stdout.write · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just outsource all the work to Google and sneak out for a round of golf!

    1. Re:Google by prestonmichaelh · · Score: 1

      I think this is the link you are looking for: Google Apps for School

    2. Re:Google by BlindSpot · · Score: 1

      No need, (s)he's already outsourced the work to Slashdot!

    3. Re:Google by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      As somebody who's currently taking a look at ways of improving a university's systems - and taking a serious look at moving to Google Apps for email and calendaring - why should I *not* outsource to Google?

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  6. Its simple. by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

    Given the complexity of the different participants in a university, how does one have a coherent strategy that fulfills the needs of such a wide audience?

    It's simple: Relatively Unrestricted WiFi - (You can block off the obvious Battle.net and filter anything involving porn) and this allows any student with a laptop to research anything they want. Alot of kids today are getting laptops for the sake of college and university. Its almost a must.

    Then you completely lockdown outter-access to anything within the physical domain of the Campus - being the plugs in the wall. Let them access their shared drives if they're in that kind of course - let them use the library printers, let them use outlook for email - (or your own campus built email). Other than that, they shouldn't need anything outside of the campus available to them on Campus computers.

      How does one promote open source in a managerial culture?

    You tell them the benefits. How else do you promote Open source. (Rhetorical)

    How does one deal with the curse of the virtual learning environment?"

    Everything they NEED to use should be EASY to use. The things that most students use the University domain for are - Campus Library Book Tracking, Grades, and updates from teachers.

    Thus if you can build those in-house and KISS, you won't have any problems. The LAST thing you need is a seperate piece of software that doesn't work fully with your current system. If a student has to remember more than one username or password - its not a good system.

    1. Re:Its simple. by Seakip18 · · Score: 1

      It's simple: Relatively Unrestricted WiFi - (You can block off the obvious Battle.net and filter anything involving porn) and this allows any student with a laptop to research anything they want. Alot of kids today are getting laptops for the sake of college and university. Its almost a must.

      Then you completely lockdown outter-access to anything within the physical domain of the Campus - being the plugs in the wall. Let them access their shared drives if they're in that kind of course - let them use the library printers, let them use outlook for email - (or your own campus built email). Other than that, they shouldn't need anything outside of the campus available to them on Campus computers.

      This becomes maddening to enforce. EBSCO Host, wikipedia, and countless other research websites that reference other summaries on other websites. Heck, even a blog might have a key reference to a paper you are searching for.

      A simple response of "Sorry. Internal use only." to a student is tantamount to a slap in the face for trusting their ISP(the school) to provide them the tools to do their work.

      Another thing is this: A friend and I would have never gotten as far into programming if we couldn't have the occasional C&C Generals game on our own computers. Same goes for facebook, etc. I understand that it's not entirely academic, but neither is the typical undergrad education. You learn some academics but it's not everything.

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    2. Re:Its simple. by bugnuts · · Score: 1

      It's simple: Relatively Unrestricted WiFi - (You can block off the obvious Battle.net and filter anything involving porn) and this allows any student with a laptop to research anything they want. Alot of kids today are getting laptops for the sake of college and university. Its almost a must.

      The moment you embark on the "block off the obvious ..." you've subverted the university network from a bastion of learning, to enforcing what YOU think students should learn. Would you like your university library refusing to carry banned books?

      As an IT muckitymuck who makes policy, before you add any blocking that isn't strictly for technical issues (DOS, email virus filtering, spam filtering, QOS, etc) you better revisit your university's policy on censorship. If it's a state-sponsored institution, your hands might be tied on such blatant censorship. Blocking "the obvious Battle.net and anything involving porn" might land you in a heap o' trouble, depending on your state's laws.

      Suddenly, unlike the title, it's not quite so simple. But I completely agree with the following:

      Everything they NEED to use should be EASY to use.

    3. Re:Its simple. by psychodelicacy · · Score: 1

      Filtering porn shouldn't really be the University's job, in my view. On their own machines, sure, but on private machines connected to the University network? Are they the thought police?

      I'm lucky the College where I work isn't too restrictive. I was researching a paper on masculinity in modern film recently, and spent a while trawling for "gay barbarian porn" before it occurred to me that the IT guys might be wondering what the chick in Office 6/7 gets up to when she's working late...

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    4. Re:Its simple. by BarryJacobsen · · Score: 1

      Given the complexity of the different participants in a university, how does one have a coherent strategy that fulfills the needs of such a wide audience?

      It's simple: Relatively Unrestricted WiFi - (You can block off the obvious Battle.net and filter anything involving porn) and this allows any student with a laptop to research anything they want. Alot of kids today are getting laptops for the sake of college and university. Its almost a must.

      Then you completely lockdown outter-access to anything within the physical domain of the Campus - being the plugs in the wall. Let them access their shared drives if they're in that kind of course - let them use the library printers, let them use outlook for email - (or your own campus built email). Other than that, they shouldn't need anything outside of the campus available to them on Campus computers.

      How does one promote open source in a managerial culture?

      You tell them the benefits. How else do you promote Open source. (Rhetorical)

      How does one deal with the curse of the virtual learning environment?"

      Everything they NEED to use should be EASY to use. The things that most students use the University domain for are - Campus Library Book Tracking, Grades, and updates from teachers.

      Thus if you can build those in-house and KISS, you won't have any problems. The LAST thing you need is a seperate piece of software that doesn't work fully with your current system. If a student has to remember more than one username or password - its not a good system.

      While blocking Battle.Net may seem like a given - it may actually interfere with what students need to do. I had a "Culture of the Internet" class in college, and one of the papers we had to write was about joining and participating in an MMO (you could use any MMO, free or pay to play) and actively playing the game for at least an hour a week was part of the coursework.

      As a publicly funded university, I'd say if you're doing anything more than verifying the person is a student (at my college, after joining the wifi network you had to login using your student ID and your student e-mail password) and using QoS to keep the HTML and other priority traffic flowing freely, you're doing too much.

    5. Re:Its simple. by Dynedain · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not only that, but remember about a year ago there was a /. article about a university course discussing strategy as played through Starcraft? Now you need to make exceptions for the rules.

      Or my university had a multimedia programming/game development track within the CS department. You bet your ass they need unrestricted access to online resources that would otherwise be seen as non-academic.

      The IT department cannot be responsible for determining what is or isn't academically relevant or else they'll end up in a never ending escalation of blocking/bypassing wars that will monopolize time and funds better spent improving the resources available to students and staff.

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    6. Re:Its simple. by mkiwi · · Score: 1

      Require network registration with a captive portal/walled garden. I experimented with this when the technology was very young. It wasn't great back then, but it should be well established by now.

      What you need is a captive portal that takes a MAC address (maybe some other details) from a computer and maps it to a user's university login. The user should be presented with a registration webpage when he or she tries to access the Internet. This generally prevents people outside the university from accessing your network. The user should not have to register each time they hook up to the network- it should be a one time deal. You might consider giving people access up to five devices without filling out special forms.

      Although it's not perfect, it is a very practical way to do access control. Some people have privacy concerns with this method. I'm merely suggesting a practical alternative that has worked for many other universities. YMMV

    7. Re:Its simple. by paeanblack · · Score: 1

      There is a pretty simple rule we use here:

      Our policy is to prevent any user or device from interfering with other users on the network. Anything that does not interfere with use of the network by others is explicitly allowed.

      It's pretty simple and very acceptable to everyone I've dealt with at work. However, it does give you an easy catch-all for dealing with asshats. Anybody that monopolizes the time of the IT staff or behaves in a way that incurs technical/legal issues/costs, can be considered to be interfering with the network and reprimanded appropriately.

    8. Re:Its simple. by Tacvek · · Score: 1

      At my University we have that completely backwards. There is Wifi access everywhere, that gives you access to both the internal domain and the general internet. There is minimal blocking, notably the only outbound block is the default IRC port, although inbound ports for well known services (HTTP, FTP, etc) are generally blocked . No content filters in place at all. There are two VPN's available for remote access to compus resources. The Cisco VPN is restricted to faculty use, but the Microsoft VPN servers are availble for students (although probably also used by staff.

      There are no mandatory programs to install to access the network, although they trick most students into downloading a security suite. The system makes no effort to ensure said suite is installed. If your computer becomes a threat to the network they reserve the right to cut off your access.

      All the Windows and Mac computers have Firefox installed for those who prefer it. Many computers have other useful software installed, although the the software available varies by lab. The best computers are those in the Engineering building, which are administered by the Engineering department instead of IT. That includes the Linux machines.

      Granted that not everything is ideal. The Linux machines all run RHEL 4, (so the word processor is the relatively awful OO.org 1.x instead of 2.x or 3.x, and they intend to skip over RHEL 5 entirely. OIT has many parts that are barely competent. The biggest thing though is that there is absolutely no access for the general public. There are provisions for guest Wifi access (providing access only to the Internet, not the local domain) but it requires special guest credentials that are available only to special guests of the University.

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    9. Re:Its simple. by Tacvek · · Score: 1

      Yes. That is exactly what my university does for the wired network. For the wireless network PEAP is used to authenticate users (although the other page must also be filled out, because each machine is given a domain name (subdomain of a subdomain of the University domain name).

      In fact I do not believe there is any limit to the number of devices per user either.

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    10. Re:Its simple. by Bluebottel · · Score: 1

      Those classes were held at UC Berkeley by Alan Feng and two others. Here is a writeup about them, quite interesting.

    11. Re:Its simple. by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      Try another simple one: Unrestricted WiFi.

      Some form of device authentication is fine if you need it, perhaps by MAC address, but once you're on an academic network it should be open to any and all traffic. Your policy should provide a means of reprimanding those who abuse it, but that's all.

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    12. Re:Its simple. by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      My uni is moving towards that after one of the IT staff experienced epic problems trying to use the accursed BlueSocket login.

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  7. freeswitch! by gmaruzz · · Score: 1
    www.freeswitch.org

    FreeSWITCH is an open source telephony platform designed to facilitate the creation of voice and chat driven products scaling from a soft-phone up to a soft-switch. It can be used as a simple switching engine, a PBX, a media gateway or a media server to host IVR applications using simple scripts or XML to control the callflow. We support various communication technologies such as Skype, SIP, H.323, IAX2 and GoogleTalk making it easy to interface with other open source PBX systems such as sipXecs, Call Weaver, Bayonne, YATE or Asterisk. FreeSWITCH supports many advanced SIP features such as presence/BLF/SLA as well as TCP TLS and sRTP. It also can be used as a transparent proxy with and without media in the path to act as a SBC (session border controller) and proxy T.38 and other end to end protocols. FreeSWITCH supports both wide and narrow band codecs making it an ideal solution to bridge legacy devices to the future. The voice channels and the conference bridge module all can operate at 8, 16, 32 or 48 kilohertz and can bridge channels of different rates. FreeSWITCH builds natively and runs standalone on several operating systems including Windows, Max OS X, Linux, BSD and Solaris on both 32 and 64 bit platforms. Our developers are heavily involved in open source and have donated code and other resources to other telephony projects including openSER, sipXecs, The Asterisk Open Source PBX and Call Weaver.

  8. Contribute how? by Dynedain · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You're being very vague. University IT policies have many many stakeholders (Provosts, Regents, President, Deans, department heads, just to name a few) and a lot of interdepartmental politicking needs to be taken into account. Is this a 30k+ student body with hundreds of staff in the IT department or is it student body of 1,000 with only 20 IT people? Is the IT department merged with the library system or is it independent? Does IT bill the other departments for services or do they operate with a predefined budget? Is the reason for getting your input to provide direction for overhauling the IT department's network and services, or is the goal to change the general technology culture of the staff and student body? Should IT be involved more directly with students or are they just a necessary service like janitorial and maintenance? Does IT set policies, or is that handed down by decree from on high? Is the head of IT respected at the same level as the dean of a specific school or is he fighting for attention? Do departments/schools manage their own IT resources does everything have to be centralized?

    Perhaps if you were a bit more specific as to WHY the University is asking for your specific input, and WHAT kind of input they expect from you, /. readers could provide you with appropriate responses. The open/closed source debate should only be one tiny aspect of an overall IT strategy, especially in an organization with differing needs as complex as a university. For example, CS/CE departments will certainly need and want a lot of open source tools and systems, but Fine Arts is better left alone with OSX and Adobe CS.

    As your question is phrased now, I think your respsonses are going to be mostly of the variety "use/avoid product X" or "push for open source" and not really of much help in providing specific input towards the strategy you are mentioning.

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    1. Re:Contribute how? by Slicebo · · Score: 1

      You're right, but I can phase your response more succinct way:

      Strategy flows from mission. If you think you understand your school's ICT mission, write it down. Stare at it.

      If you agree with the mission, read the revised strategy document and see if it supports and advances that mission. If it does, say so.
      If it doesn't, say what needs to change so it does.

      If you don't agree with the mission, say so, but prepare to be ignored (unless you are a signifigant shareholder at your institution.)

      If you don't understand what the mission is, tackle that before you contribute to strategy.

    2. Re:Contribute how? by Magic5Ball · · Score: 1

      Mod parent up.

      Also, be aware that missions and strategic plans must cascade in any organization of significant size and internal diversity, so one plan will not fit all users. Use good science to ascertain and respond to users' needs, or they will do it themselves.

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    3. Re:Contribute how? by gmccloskey · · Score: 1

      First of all, establish exactly what it is they are asking you for. 'Strategy' has to be one of the most abused words in the modern world. Is it really strategy - ie setting goals without defining how they are acheived? Is it policy - ie setting the framework of rules to work within while achieving the strategy? Or is it tactical advice - the nuts and bolts of how you actually implement the strategy and policy?

      Assuming it is strategy, then ...

      Second, define what you want IT to achieve - in terms of benefits and abilities, and what you want IT not to do - in terms of drawbacks and liabilities.

      Third - prioritise the importance of each of the individual results from point two above.

      Now you have a list of things you want IT to do, and you understand how to allocate funds and time, based on their priority. The next steps are to decide the policy to run them, and tactical implementation.

      You'll get a lot of folks here saying things like "allow FOSS...deny " These aren't direct strategies. A strategy would be to allow solutions to be developed/deployed based on fitness for purpose. The conseqent policy would be to allow multiple OS / applications to be deployed within a controlled framework. The following tactic would be to assess what the user needs and can afford, identify what potential market solutions are out there and how much they cost (capex and opex) and pick the best.

  9. Politely ignore the faculty. by e9th · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Certainly you must determine their needs, but don't let them get involved in the solution. You will have a History professor who's a computer hobbyist (and whom the other liberal arts faculty consider an expert) offering you helpful suggestions based on a James Martin book he read a decade ago, some guy from Electrical Engineering pushing for end-to-end quantum crypto, deans trying to preserve their schools' autonomy, etc., with the end result looking like it was designed by a committee of monkeys.

    1. Re:Politely ignore the faculty. by vlm · · Score: 1

      with the end result looking like it was designed by a committee of monkeys

      Get the students involved. At least the MIS-IT/CS students. That would be excellent real world experience.

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    2. Re:Politely ignore the faculty. by bluprint · · Score: 1

      What's even worse in an academic environment is all the PhD's that seem to think just because they have a PhD in one subject any opinion they express about any topic is an "expert opinion."

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    3. Re:Politely ignore the faculty. by cyphercell · · Score: 1

      Good point. Politely ignore the administration too. That's why IT, regardless of the abundance of very intelligent people, is there. Some faculty may know more than you, but they won't necessarily be around to help you support it. The administration, will have some decent views too, but they have a tendency to walk into traveling salesmen problems or purchase a set from Erector and a set from Lego and wonder why they don't go together.

      Seriously, you don't want to push too heavily in either direction. Either way will get you smooshed. You can align the faculty against the administration or you can align the administration against the faculty. If you ever find yourself facing one or the other by yourself (admin listening to faculty and asking you to explain things), give it up man. If admin and faculty have agreed on a failed strategy all you can do is explain, accommodate (probably with your budget or student help), bail out, and/or take the blame. Do this gracefully and you will probably get a shot at it next time, butt heads and you will likely go down in flames.

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    4. Re:Politely ignore the faculty. by cyphercell · · Score: 1

      Disclaimer

      This is all very bluntly speaking. It is not necessarily this dramatic unless you actively work to piss everyone off. It happens at least a little bit, if you care about your job. Which, is really how it can get so complicated. Administration cares, faculty cares, you care, the students care, the students' parents care...

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  10. Do the minimum, offer good advice by backwardMechanic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Give us (research groups) the freedom to set things up so they work for us, but offer help in achieving that. All research groups are different, and we all need different things. Often we know (almost) enough to do things ourselves, but a bit of central infrastructure is always helpful. We run a mixture of Windows, Linux and Solaris - I think this is quite common. What would be really useful would be a few webpages describing how to configure things (services like LDAP or SAMBA) so they work with the central university structure. And please, Windows only solutions don't work for some of us. I have known several people who keep two computers on their desk because of this. But most of all, don't lock it down unless you really need to.

    1. Re:Do the minimum, offer good advice by vlm · · Score: 1

      Give us (research groups) the freedom to set things up so they work for us, but offer help in achieving that.

      But most of all, don't lock it down unless you really need to.

      You need at least two classes of service.

      Extremely clearly written demarcation points agreed to by the highest levels in the organization. If you don't know what a demarc is, find an old (or young?) bell-head and ask them to explain the concept. On an experimental best effort basis, your department / research group / whatever does anything they want using equipment purchased and maintained by non-IT personnel. This ethernet jack and upstream is IT's responsibility and the cable you plug into it and downstream is all yours to do whatever you want.

      Also provide full end-to-end service and support to other groups, with clearly written expectations for both sides.

      This works pretty well in the fortune 500, not just at schools.

      IT groups are usually pretty good at generic "office productivity tools" and usually pretty awful at specialized vertical integration solutions.

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  11. uPortal by Verdagon · · Score: 1

    uPortal is open source and allows for easy information access, and has groups and stuff built in. We use it in Cal Poly, it works quite nicely...

  12. Ethical standpoints can be part of the criteria by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    By using it only when it's the best solution. Don't push it if it's not the best tool for the job.

    While that is very valid view to take - choosing the best tool for the job - I don't quite agree with it here. Or well, I do agree but I think that "open source" is a very valid criteria in choosing the best tool.

    No, tools aren't automatically superior in security, features or such because they are open source. In fact, deciding to prefer open source harms this because it leaves some of the competition out.

    Depending on your political views, how you view Universities in the society might vary. However, if you think that they are supposed to promote freedom of information, openness, be as independent from corporate control as possible, embrace ethical choices, etc. etc... Choosing open source is part of it.

    Some people don't believe that those are the reason we need to have universities or that open source helps in those things... I am sure we can all argue about that for dozens of posts and get nowhere. :)

  13. Assuming only technology does the job by zildgulf · · Score: 1

    I have found that, in all arenas, people assume that the individual technology is so good that an integrated plan is not needed.

    The first step is to PLAN! Ask yourself these questions:

    1. Will I have enough PCs, printer, Macs, whatever required to service the university?
    2. Will I have enough labs of this stuff where it is needed?
    3. How am I going to connect it all?
    4. What kind of knowledge do I need to make this happen correctly?
    5. Is my solution scalable? Can is adapt to new technologies (like WiFi or WiMax)?

    Start with that and you can figure out the rest.

  14. Beware of subsidizing one service with another by seawall · · Score: 1

    Get the budget balanced and as rational as you can: every year.

    An example: It is not uncommon to see one part of an operation (e.g. phone lines) subsidize another (e.g. networking). There can be great reasons to do that kind of thing but it tends to bite eventually.

    People may abandon the expensive service (especially in a tough economy) and come to expect the cheap subsidized service as a right (understandably). In this particular example the cheap networking can replace the expensive phone lines and suddenly you are laying off dozens of people and seeing sarcastic plays written about IT management in the local University bookstore.

    Not that this has ever happened.

  15. Agreed by mercutioviz · · Score: 1

    There are times when OSS is the best choice and there are times when it is not. And be sure to let the powers-that-be know that FOSS software is almost never "free as in beer" - there are costs associated with it in all situations. Sometimes it's money, sometimes it's time, sometimes it's the learning curve, etc. Be ready to handle the pros and cons of OSS.

  16. Learn how to "manage" faculty by goffster · · Score: 2

    Figure out what their real needs are and meet them.
    Learn who can be ignored and who can't.

    In general, if they feel you are listening and understanding them,
    you will get along ok.

  17. First rule of thumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    First rule of thumb: zero tolerance on M$ products, formats and protocols.

    1. Re:First rule of thumb by Magic5Ball · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes, zero tolerance on those specifications (or, really, anything not otherwise illegal) would be a mistake since that would make the university non-interoperable with students, faculty, other researchers, industry, government, and the rest of the world. University IT departments (really, all IT departments) should have at least the purpose and goal of enabling the organization to meet its business objectives (efficient output of high quality teaching, research, advocacy, other products) through the effective management and provision of ICT tools. IT departments, like accounting departments and the loading dock, are means to informing and fulfilling other broader strategic objectives, and should rarely be ends unto themselves. More sophisticated IT departments should certainly form strategy around their own operations and aspire to become more than a supporting department, but not at the expense of achieving the organization's regular business objectives.

      At one university in which I participate, the CIO decided that nightly six-hour backups of 13 different legacy mainframe systems was inefficient, and increasingly costly as upkeep and replacement parts became increasingly expensive. However, the systems had co-evolved with the business operating procedures of the entire 40-year-old institution, providing great efficiencies at the human business administrator level, such that processing was swift, accurate, and responsive to the needs of the students, faculties and other customers. Everyone on campus had two credentials: the library card and the IT (AIX) login. IT signed with [that system that Oracle bought] on the understanding that the business logic and VT interfaces from all of the legacy systems would be ported over to the new web-based system in two years, such that the data would be seamlessly carried through and users would require minimal retraining on business processes. The vendor-supplied consultants, it was thought, would be able to magically absorb decades of institutional knowledge about the university's documented business processes, without any consideration for the many more legitimate but undocumented exceptions. They did no meaningful consulting with the users of the proposed new system. Oddly at the time, the management faculty applied enough pressure to largely not participate in this migration on the grounds that their system (which replicated the functions of the central system on recent platforms) would not be made more efficient by this plan.

      Three years after, data from two of the silos were ported, the interfaces and business logic were completely new, and average administrative processing time in many customer-facing units rose from hours to weeks. Some of the more experienced administrators left in frustration, taking valuable intra- and extra-institutional knowledge with them. Others stayed and became "[platform] translators" who would take old paper forms completed by faculty, staff and students, and manually key them into the various parts of the new system (the system also assigned new terminology to things like "semester", "term", "quarter", "credit hour", etc. which had different meanings elsewhere in hardcopy and departmental regulations). IT deployed a new helpdesk specific to the new platform, and customer-facing staffing for faculty and students (and the queuing area at the registrar's office) had to be more than doubled to deal with the increased volume of exception handling required. This $35 million migration was already $10 million over budget, and perhaps 15 per cent complete. At this time, elsewhere in IT, people were implementing different SSO systems for students, faculty and administrative staff, and yet a different system for wireless access.

      Over the next five years, they migrated the remaining silos, disappearing probably over $50 million in various kinds of internal accounts in the process, including federal funding, some of the smaller endowed chairs, etc. (For three years, our relatively small research group couldn't access around $2 million in f

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    2. Re:First rule of thumb by Magic5Ball · · Score: 1

      Exactly. They are there to learn (and contribute), not to fight with their tools.

      Forcing academics to use different file formats and software than almost everyone else in the community is the very definition of creating intentional incompatibilities. If you want to argue that forcing IIS users to switch to Apache on ideological grounds alone is in the public interest, a very similar argument would hold for the converse switch.

      Zero tolerance on any application which does not intentionally include compatibility for every file format ever or any software which has a security issue or bug would objectively exclude almost every piece of non-trivial software from use.

      At Canadian campuses, the "defective-by-design solution-in-search-of-a-problem garbage" software, whether it produces ugly things like Word tables, or ugly things like swriter tables, each works well enough for at least 30 percent of the learners, so prohibition on proprietary or open source would force significant numbers of users to fight with or relearn software, rather than applying or enhancing their expertise. This is hard to justify.

      Since your argument is based on ideology rather than objective user needs, I'd like to see some arguments or evidence in support of having the IT department compete with the philosophy or political science departments, in the context of enhancing learning achievement for the whole university.

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  18. Put your personal agenda on the shelf by halligas · · Score: 1

    and recommend the best solution to the tasks at hand. You sound like you have a OSS agenda to push without regard at to what the issue that needs to be addressed is. I can tell you, as someone that has managed teams of engineers, that I will be convinced by a logical discussion of why software package A is preferred over software package B. If I hired a guy who had an agenda of pushing a particular software vendor over another due to personal agendas, I can tell you he wouldn't be around for long. Pushing OSS, just because it is OSS, is equally as pernicious as pushing BigSoftwareCoX's products. Right tool, right job. Of course $ is always a consideration, so OSS may have a good "Right Tool" argument, but you need to make the WHOLE argument.

    1. Re:Put your personal agenda on the shelf by gdshaw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nonsense: there's a huge difference between promoting the public interest (OSS), versus the interests of a particular corporation or individual — especially when you are working for an organisation whose mission is to advance the public interest (academic/charitable/public sector). One is a virtue, the other is verging on corruption.

      Granted it would be a mistake to elevate this above the task of actually getting the job done, but I see no shame in promoting OSS as a matter of policy provided there are no overriding practical considerations.

    2. Re:Put your personal agenda on the shelf by halligas · · Score: 1

      Granted it would be a mistake to elevate this above the task of actually getting the job done, but I see no shame in promoting OSS as a matter of policy provided there are no overriding practical considerations.

      My point exactly. Anyone making recommendations with any sort of bias blinders on, whether is be (corruption) getting paid off by a corporate entity or personal agenda (being an OSS zealot), is inherently not to be trusted. Getting the job done is the key. In the best way, for the least money, and serving the public good. The OP suggested that he wanted to convince the powers that be that OSS was the way. The absense of any other reasoning suggests that he may have a personal agenda that is clouding his judgement. It is not and should not be OSS vs. Commercial software. It should be solution A vs solution B. With all the aspects of those solutions taken into consideration. If solution B is OSS, perhaps it gets a +1. But OSS is merely one of the factors, not all of them.

  19. Universities and Newspapers by xednieht · · Score: 1

    Universities are well down the road to making the same mistakes printed newspapers made - trying to fit transformative technology into their outdated business models. Universities have a large investment in buildings and real estate that they are not likely to shed in the lifetimes of anyone reading /. today. They need to fill those buildings with warm bodies - students and profs to make them pay off.

    As such, look for ways to make miniscule improvements using simple technologies that tie students to the physical classroom. The Kindle is an excellent tool for making miniscule steps down the technology path while giving Universities control over the business of selling and trading eBooks.

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    1. Re:Universities and Newspapers by Magic5Ball · · Score: 1

      Although many (all?) public universities in North America have not shortage of students awaiting enrollment, xednieht might be thinking of private universities and other specialized post-secondary institutions that are less responsive to market pressures, or which have decided to implement a newspaper publishing model. But even then, the advice provided wouldn't even work well for modern newspapers, as thriving examples such as The Economist point out.

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  20. IT strategy as a function of institution by bbasgen · · Score: 1

    This question can't be asked without the context of the institutional strategy. The poster mentions open source, but open source is not a strategy. It is a means to a particular end. Most universities today are focused on increasing student services through technology. Thus, it seems likely that the IT strategy for your institution should dove tail with student services goals. A portion of IT strategy could be basic infrastructure questions if they are big and important enough -- e.g. you need a new data center, you've neglected your infrastructure for X years and a complete overhaul is necessary, etc. Simply stated: figure out what your institutional strategy is, and you'll be able to create a meaningful and coherent IT strategy.

  21. Get Good Advice, then Act On It by EEBaum · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My university was laying a bunch of new cable underground, and wanted to know what kind of cable to install that would be useful for the longest time. They asked the networking professor, probably one of the most knowledgeable people in the area on such matters. He told them that the cable type didn't matter, as long as it was installed with some sort of pull-through mechanism so that new cable could be easily installed at any time in the future without digging up the cables.

    They ignored his suggestion, and installed whatever was good at the time despite his protests. I think they'll be due to re-trench a couple thousand yards in the not-too-distant future.

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    1. Re:Get Good Advice, then Act On It by ImNotAtWork · · Score: 1

      Mod parent up. Things like this and raised flooring are important on any new additions. Undergrads are power hungry (charging laptops/ smart phones etc) and lap up bandwidth like there is no tomorrow.

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  22. Need Real World Knowledge by curmudgeon99 · · Score: 1

    The most important thing is to give them a mix of technologies so they don't get this slice that isn't useful. If you teach Java, then Teach Hibernate, Spring and all the other associated technologies...

  23. Mistakes by esme · · Score: 1

    What are the major mistakes that organizations like universities make?

    In my experience, two big mistakes that university IT shops often make are:

    • Centralizing services to reduce costs, without appreciating how much poorer the service is. I've seen this several times where departments were running their own email and/or file servers. They cost a lot of money (esp. the staff to maintain the servers). So the department switched to campus-managed email/storage to save money. Only later did they realize that campus wasn't really providing the same service. POP (or IMAP with a very small quota, which is basically the same) is not the same as shell access with basically unlimited storage.
    • Standardizing on one option (or a small number of options) when there is a huge diversity of users. I've seen hardware purchasing agreements where a few configurations that were perfectly good for general office use were heavily discounted, but anything else (rackmounted servers, workstations, etc.) were basically full price. I've seen other places negotiate for a good percentage discount across the board. So I think understanding that you can't generalize from students or "normal" office users is important -- you really need to talk to people from different disciplines (esp. engineering, medicine, etc.) because different people have different needs.

    -Esme

  24. Use Moodle instead of Blackboard or Desire2Learn by Sparky9292 · · Score: 3, Informative

    When it comes to VLS (Virtual Learning Systems) please don't give into the Blackboard marketing machine. Moodle is free and equivalent in just about everyway. It drives me nuts to see colleges and universities paying for crap like Desire2Learn and Blackboard when many of them are cutting back student services and laying off people these days. What's even worse is that both Blackboard and D2L have significant bugs and really bad customer support.

    Our university (around 38,000 students) pays Blackboard $600,000 a year (yes there are five zeros after that six). Please try convince your PHBs to give Moodle a look. The community is massive and helpful. You can find hundreds of great pluggins as well.

  25. Well I guess I could tell things I like... by Youngbull · · Score: 1

    I study at UIB(norway) and I can tell you about the things I love about the IT department: - They have AD accounts for all users(students and employees) and the profile is avilable through ftp (that is if you want to use it at home) - they provide firefox and thunderbird (and thunderbird is even pre set to use your university e-mail account) on all machines - about 50% of the machines use Fedora and the rest is XP. - When you enroll you get your ID and that autmoatically set you up with an e-mail account, an AD account (probobly not real AD but that Samba flavor but who cares anyways), a log on for the wi-fi(just a password program on the proxy, or you could use VPN), an account on a schedual/classorganizer they use and they set all of this up pretty nicely(like the touch about thunderbird I mentioned earlier) -they got a really nice printer system (you can retrieve your documents at any printer you want)

  26. Re:Trinity University (San Antonio) by diggitzz · · Score: 1

    Note that they aren't changing their solutions for political reasons, they are truly better, not just open source and not-Microsoft.

    I think that it isn't just better software, FOSS is a better solution for large organizations because they can make custom "in-house" changes, as they like, whenever they like. Changes can mean feature updates or interlinking with other services on campus, security customizations, etc, for which the large organization doesn't have to remain tied to software manufacturers or through ongoing service contracts. It saves money for everyone in the organization, provides students and alums with programming projects and jobs (if even short-term), and contributes humanitarian effort to the free development of technology in the world. ;)

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  27. Re:You are a service, not a policy-maker by Vrallis · · Score: 1

    I haven't stepped foot in a university in a decade.

    I've been out in the real world. I spent a while in IT and had my 'idealistic' streak like most of the people in this thread, including, likely, the submitter.

    However, since then, I've spent most of my time outside IT (though still closely related, I work in a software company). I've come to see the other side in the business world. IT, in the terms of infrastructure per the questions posed, is a cost point, not a profit center. I used to be the rabid Linux zealot, now I've 'seen the light' and realize how futile those efforts are, and how badly they can hamper business.

  28. Universities have In Circuit Test? by WonkoS · · Score: 1

    sorry.

  29. Develop custom software by FLoWCTRL · · Score: 1

    Dynedain's "Contribute How?" post hit the mark, and I have no idea what it is you're really asking. However, having worked in university IT for about a decade I can offer some advice that can be applied broadly: you have an amazing resource at your disposal - smart people - and you should exploit that by developing software to suit your needs.

    A lot of universities spend millions on proprietary software like PeopleSoft when they could get much better value and results by hiring competent programmers, work-studies, grad students, postdocs, etc, in-house to create software that does exactly what your institution needs it to do. Your custom software will do whatever needs to be done, it will be infinitely flexible because you have complete control over what it does and how it does it, you will not be at the mercy of any external vendor for support, and the ongoing licensing costs will be $0.

  30. Gmail and Skype by cryfreedomlove · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seriously. No support needed. Start from there and make someone convince you to do anything different. Anyone who wants something different has to pay for it themselves. Tools like GMail and Skype are ever present and all around us. The analogy is to consider how Universities thought about electricity in 1900. I'll bet each University had it's own electricity generation and procurement department is its own hierarchy of management. Today they just get an electric bill from the same provider that services private homes near by. Someday soon, basic IT will be the same.

    1. Re:Gmail and Skype by EponymousCustard · · Score: 1

      skype: In non-NATted environments like Universities, skype clients can become supernodes and consume huge amounts of bandwidth. gmail: a large amount of sensitive documents should never leave the premises. google should not be storing your sensitive data

  31. Re:You are a service, not a policy-maker by diggitzz · · Score: 1

    Let the individual divisions of the school give you their needs, and you meet them.

    Yes, the "meet them" part is the part where supposed "agendae" may fall. I believe the OP was asking how to gracefully meet the needs of the school while aligning himself with what he sees to be the ethics of his field, while at the same time dealing with other managers who are in equal-ish positions of decision (for instance on a committee) but possibly of opposite opinions regarding what constitutes a balance of ethics, or possibly in another field where there are altogether different considerations to be made.

    Consumers of IT take for granted what a complicated (and often political) process this is in a large organization!

    Even a sole-proprietor IT business consulting to a single other person with a technical need to be met faces these issues in deciding what meets the need for the client. In short, what meets the client's needs is what the client agrees meets his/her needs. "Agrees" implies more than just cutting and pasting a spec sheet -- there are arguments to be made based on such foggy things as user preferences, which the user might not even know beforehand, and long-term impact analysis of the various options, which, if the user could do, would negate the need for technical consultation services! Promoting FOSS is likely one of the OP's strategies for maximizing positive impact and minimizing risk, not just an "agenda", but a professional stance based in reason and ethics.

    You don't imagine that this process somehow evaporates when the "IT business" and client are parts of the same large institution, do you?

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  32. Re:Use Moodle instead of Blackboard or Desire2Lear by Morbid+Curiosity · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm at a university that had WebCT, which then morphed into Blackboard and has just recently been replaced with Moodle. Having using those systems, both as a student and in teaching roles, I have to say that Moodle is just plain better. It's cheaper (TCO), more versatile and more usable. And much less prone to inducing rage :-)

    Of course, that doesn't mean that it's invulnerable to screw-ups. If you lock it down from on high with One True Way of Using The System, then you're probably not going to suit the needs of different academic departments and their different kinds of students (CompSci versus English majors, for example). On the other hand, too little structure can lead to ongoing support problems in security, maintenance and training/helpdesk services. The trick is to find a balance that works across your institution.

  33. Re:Real meaning by guruevi · · Score: 1

    Usually it's something in the sense of: the college has purchased some tools that were promised to work but except of giving the managers nice pie-graphs (what they call dashboards) are a pain to actually implement, program AND use on the other end (HEAT, Peoplesoft, SharePoint, SAP) and require years of fine tuning to perfect.

    There are plenty of good open and closed source products that do either all or parts of the work that each of those packages do and they usually integrate really well with each other if you have but a single programmer or consultant. However for some or another reason, most of the money is (or was) dumped into things that have proven across the board not to work but because of the numbers being cooked up by the sales people and the exorbitant amounts of money it costs, managers think it's a good product. Because of the amount of money involved, most managers also believe that endless amounts of support and a really good contract is involved but usually neither is true and what the sales pitch didn't include was that those options are an extra cost at least 3 times as much as the product.

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  34. Re:Why do they need a ICT Strategy? by Magic5Ball · · Score: 1

    Infrastructure management strategies are important because they are usually an organization's second or third most expensive cost, and often their second or third most valuable asset, both of which link importantly into the organization's bottom line as a determinant of success or failure.

    More pragmatically, if the university wants to become an Open University or a medical school or howsoever different in 5 years, and has planned for this in the overall strategic plan, in the absence of a strategic plan IT will not be able to design, deploy and test large infrastructure and wetware appropriately beforehand if it has no strategy to get pieces on the ground, and it will be disadvantaged in the future with respect to providing the new services sustainably.

    Sensible strategies also deal with things like not having to buy 200 copies of MS Office from Staples at the last minute, and also not having the OC-3 choke when 3000 computers decide to simultaneously autoupdate. Infrastructure strategies also tell you how not to OMG Zerg RUSH!!!1! into new/other technologies, purchases and implementations without considering organization-wide impacts.

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  35. No pay cuts for recommending "upgrades" to Vista by hoarier · · Score: 1

    University IT policies have many many stakeholders (Provosts, Regents, President, Deans, department heads, just to name a few) and a lot of interdepartmental politicking needs to be taken into account.

    The Provosts, Regents, President, Deans, and department heads of my institution are concerned that they can get and send email, that neither the administration stuff nor the website is hacked, that no screw-up risks escalation to a PR disaster, and that it doesn't all cost too much. And that other people don't bitch about it, and all in all that it can be left to run itself -- because they have more than enough other, IT-unrelated concerns of their own. As long as they can plug their own laptops into the LAN they don't care what hardware or software the masses are using.

    In the relevant committees, you're likely to find deep conservatism, even from people who themselves use Gentoo or whatever. Elementary classes in "computer literacy" are likely to be in mere secretarial skills, and their teachers can argue for MS software on Windows as they can truthfully say that this is near ubiquitous in the corporate world. Students and staff want to use software with which they're already familiar, which for the huge majority will mean MS software. Staff find it easier to tell people who are mystified by spreadsheet problems to look up the matter in an actual book on Excel than to do so in a non-existent book on Gnumeric. Still, there's no reason not to install FOSS in addition to the shrinkwrapped stuff, and so my institution has OOo, Gimp, etc sitting unopened on just about all of its computers.

  36. Re:Real meaning by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    Yea... OS X full OS
    Windows Vista... Full OS
    A Linux Kernel... Just part of the OS

    Perhaps you should take a look a work desktop with Linux on it. Graphical Artifacts everywhere that or have it randomly lockup on me. Most Linux Distributions who focus on Desktops would be ecstatic if they could get Linux to run as well as OS X 10.1 or Vista. Don't fool yourself Linux has problems a LOT of problems. If you get the perfect system and check every stupid hardware spec then you probably get a nice running Linux system... Sure Mac OS X fixes the problem by selling the OS that fits the PC. And Microsoft has everyone trying to make drivers for them. But still don't think that Linux is that superior then everything else. It is not.

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  37. Re:Use Moodle instead of Blackboard or Desire2Lear by cranky_chemist · · Score: 1

    I'm a college faculty member and I pitched Moodle at a college-wide meeting last year when the Admin types were looking for cost-saving ideas. The idea was quickly shot down on the basis that our college has "tens of thousands of man hours" invested in developing Blackboard content that cannot be directly imported into Moodle. This is what the suits call "sunk costs." It's what the rest of us call "good money after bad." And it never occurred to any of them that the lack of portability of Blackboard content is 100% deliberate---for the sole purpose of preventing migration to other platforms.

  38. Re:Use Moodle instead of Blackboard or Desire2Lear by davros-too · · Score: 1

    This is what the suits call "sunk costs."

    Interesting that 'the suits' use the phrase 'sunk costs' to justify a poor decision based on the sunk cost falacy. The logical basis for decision making is to ignore sunk costs and consider only future costs and benefits. It may be that the transition cost outweighs the benefits of moving, but that would be an entirely different reason.

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  39. Sakai by JaBob · · Score: 1

    Sakai is also far superior to Blackboard, and the ability for student groups to set up their own sites (including places for documents, wikis, chat, and other stuff) is incredibly helpful. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakai_Project Besides, it's named after an Iron Chef... what could be better?

  40. Don't forget inherent qualities of universities by trbdavies · · Score: 1

    There are many aspects to an ICT policy. I'll just address a few points related to procurement versus in-house development, which is one key issue. Universities tend to draw tech advice and management from people who overapply lessons from the corporate world and forget things that are unique to universities. For example:

    (1) In my university administrators have consistently bought expensive proprietary tools from companies that do not specialize in academic software, e.g. modifying e-commerce tools to be student course registration and tuition systems. This can lead to mismatches in the user experience - the student's course list becomes a "shopping cart" with a "checkout", and functions that are necessary on a local level either don't get implemented or have to wait in a long list of changes that are expensively requested from the vendor, such as accommodations to allow for flexible credits when that wasn't built into the system or didn't follow readily from the original software model.

    (2) Part of the reason for going with off-the-shelf solutions that are poor matches for local needs is the bizarre and usually mistaken belief that there is insufficient in-house talent to get the job done. In few places is this less true than at a university with computer science students, who will often hack cheaply and or even for free and have created some truly terrific tools that blow away expensive proprietary ones. IT personnel are also often more available to hack at a university than elsewhere. University IT departments often attract good programmers who are somewhat underemployed because they like working in a university. In most cases, a tailored solution, open source generally, will be cheaper to produce and certainly to maintain in a university than it will be to buy software from a vendor, even if the vendor specializes in university software. This is less true as you move toward very specialized types of software such as graphical modeling tools, but universities often spend huge amounts of money on vendors to buy stuff with really simple interfaces that could have been developed locally or in consortium with other universities.

    (3) Another mistake is letting software drive policy. Software maker says "from now on, courses can't meet at nonstandard times" or "instructors can't change the grading basis", etc., and rules that used to be determined by academic committees get made de facto through programming choices that no one at the university had a say in. Another argument against outside vendors and in favor of in-house development when the software is not terribly complicated.

    (4) In some universities the concept of open source goes ideologically against what the powers that be want to promote, e.g. students graduating and forming companies based on proprietary software, or not pissing off donors from such companies. It's not clear this can be called a mistake in the context of the school's overall economic model, but it is a mistake to forget this bias when explaining why a school's IT policy does not favor free/open source software.

  41. Can you say SLA? by WhiteHorse-The+Origi · · Score: 1

    Service Level Agreements... Works for all sectors.

  42. Re:Use Moodle instead of Blackboard or Desire2Lear by quixote9 · · Score: 1

    I'm a biologist at a university with about 25,000 students and administrators who need IT to come out and show them where the off switch is on their computers. (Really. That happened.) IT convinced them that they should go off Apache and onto the whole MS .NET server schmier. They're also absolutely set against any open source VLS, so we're paying additional $$$hundreds of thousands for WebCT (Blackboard) even though there's a whole Moodle consortium among the big regional universities. (Right now they're shopping for a replacement.) For one quarter the amount they're paying, they could hire their own in-house support staff if they needed to.

    Why is this happening? My personal theory is that IT wants to be sure there's a big corporate entity to whom they can hand off support issues, so that they don't miss any golf games. The people we have in Admin don't know enough not to be relying on IT for this. They're also not relying on the faculty. Not a single faculty member, not even the ones in Computer Sci have had a chance to give any input that I've ever heard about.

    So, in these economic times, with courses being cut, enrollments being cut because the classes aren't there for the students, we're spending close to a million dollars on proprietary "solutions" that

    a) do NOT work with the diversity of software you have in a university. That diversity is not optional. Very often there's only one program written by one professor that runs on one platform that's essential to getting your class taught or your research done.

    and b) do not work with any platform except Windows / Vista, not even Macs. This doesn't work in a university. See point a).

    So the take home message is to collate all the total cost of ownership stats you can find (not sourced from Microsoft), and to remember that IT wants to avoid dealing with support no matter what it costs (for someone else). I can't say I blame them entirely, but it does need to stay in perspective. Also, send around a well-crafted questionnaire / query to all faculty about what their needs are and what *they* think would be a good solution. Follow up with the ones who seem to know what they're talking about. There might be a few things there IT hasn't thought of. Do what you can to keep your university from wasting millions on software that is way more frustrating and less usable than open source alternatives.

  43. Re:Use Moodle instead of Blackboard or Desire2Lear by steveg · · Score: 1

    We're in the process of switching from WebCT to Blackboard. Moodle was (very) seriously considered, but the self hosting was not an option the University wanted to consider (for Moodle anyway) and the hosting provider (who was a Moodle Partner) underwhelmed the committee.

    Moodle itself was highly regarded by the committee, but although they liked it better than the other alternatives, the new Blackboard was enough of an improvement over WebCT that the contrast was not as overwhelming as it could have been.

    Don't discount the "sunk costs" in developing content. Most of that content was created over a great deal of time by non-technical users (i.e., faculty) and the inability to easily convert most of it would be a huge problem. *They're* not going to be able (or willing) to redo it from scratch, and if your IT department doesn't have an automated method to convert it, it's going to take a lot of time (with limited staff) to hand tweak it. It's do-able, but a strike against any system unable to automate the conversion.

    Blackboard offered some financial incentives to stay with them and help in the conversion. The local Blackboard will be hosted here (as WebCT was before it) but with Blackboard support. I suggested finding a Moodle Partner that would provide a similar support (as opposed to hosting it) but that was not done in the time we had to make the decision, and as I said, this particular Moodle Partner was unimpressive, particularly in the support realm.

    Personally, I'll continue to run my departmental Moodle server, and none of our classes will be using the campus Blackboard, but I do understand the campus decision.

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  44. ICT Strategy aligns to the Business Strategy by cerebralpc · · Score: 1

    ICT supports the Business to achieve its objectives. The first document you need to look at is the 5 year business plan for the University. The ICT strategy takes into account the Business Strategy for the 5-10 year outlook. Other keys documents are the Business Process diagrams for each key business area. You might like to document a Business Information Model that looks at how data/information flows WITHIN the University and EXTERNAL information flows. Hopefully the Business Strategy takes into account any key government or other Policy changes that are on the horizon,if not you need to gather these as well.