SFLC Says Microsoft Violated the GPL
After Microsoft donated driver code to the Linux kernel under the GPLv2, stories surfaced that they had done so under duress of already being in violation of the GPL. Microsoft quickly denied that any GPL violation was a driver for their decision to donate the code; the company's senior director of platform strategy, Sam Ramji, said at the time: "Microsoft's decision was not based on any perceived obligations tied to the GPLv2 license." Now the Software Freedom Law Center confirms that Microsoft was indeed in violation of the GPLv2 when it distributed its Hyper-V Linux Integration Components without providing source code. Community members led by Greg Kroah-Hartman contacted the company and coached them through the process of getting compliant. Microsoft now says that they had already been on the path for several months toward releasing the software under GPLv2 before Kroah-Hartman got in touch.
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After it unpacks, I get an RTF named "Linux ICs for Hyper-V" and LinuxIC.iso ... no source code. Anybody know where said source code is? Because when I do a search on their site, I'm not finding it.
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Sure, it may have contributed the source code to some repository somewhere but I think the GPLv2 says you need to provide it if you are distributing. Which is what they're doing. Pretty obvious violation right there. Also, when you distribute it, you should have a copy of the GPLv2 license with it. I can't find a trace of it when I get the iso from them
My work here is dung.
Come on, there's always time for anti-microsoft stories.
Microsoft now says that they had already been on the path for several months toward releasing the software under GPLv2 before Kroah-Hartman got in touch.
Yeah, right.
Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.
I had been on the path for several months of buying a legitimate copy of Windows before Microsoft's lawyers got in touch. Honest.
I'm actually pretty surprised by this news. It is well known that MS hates the GPL; but they are a big company, with a nontrivial legal team, and they know that the GPL has, thus far, held up in court.
Surely legal would have thrown a screaming fit if they tried to release anything that constituted a clear licence violation. In practice, copyright holders of GPL licenced stuff have been mild and cooperative about this sort of thing, generally aiming at compliance and occasionally fairly small damages; but they are under no legal obligation to do so, and MS has very deep pockets, which would bring the lawyers swarming if they were in clear violation.
Are they trying to provoke a test case, or did they just fuck up?
If someone had been distributing pirated versions of Windows and only stopped 5 months after they had been contacted by Microsoft's legal team, would Microsoft applaud them?
This reminds me of the old joke some former ex-communist block countries have.
So Lenin is working in his study and suddently he realises there are kids playing football outside his window. He opens the window and shouts: "Get the fuck out of here stupid spastic kids!"
This proves conclusively what a good man Lenin was, he has to be applauded as such. He after all could have ordered the kids to be shot dead, no?
It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile
Be yourself no matter what they say
I agree. This has been a terrible set of articles which makes the community as a whole look like a bunch of irrational, immature children. Microsoft finally did what Slashdot has been demanding they do for years, and somehow this too is a 'bad thing'. This is worse than the articles complaining that IE6 was finally being put down.
I believe you meant to say "getting all Symantec". It's much funnier that way, and takes advantage of your partial spelling of 'semantic'.
Note that even if they release the code, that doesn't help them - they've still violated copyright law. Just as if someone is sued for sharing mp3s - saying that you'll stop won't help you.
Why aren't they being sued for $150,000 per violation?
So, seems like Microsoft for SEVERAL MONTHS has been on the GPL path to compliance?
I would like to point out, that if you pirated several Microsoft so called "Intellectual Property" binaries and eventually paid for them all, you would land in court with some fairly large fines.
Furthermore, this idea that companies cannot show source code for violations in the GPL rules seems a bit, well, warped.
This loop hole allows companies to hide behind IP rules, to protect their violations of copyright.
It is well known that Microsoft is in the HABIT of taking OTHER companies/individual works and using them for thier own gains, fairly shamelessly in some cases, and in others covertly.
-Hack
Got Geometrodynamics? Awe, too hard to figure out? Too bad.
Why aren't they being sued for $150,000 per violation?
Gentlemen, start your FTP clients!
I'm giving up the opportunity to mod what will undoubtedly be a trollfest in this article's comments so I can post this.
I think that this is a positive sign from Microsoft. For years they've been going on about how the GPL is a virus and communist and will be the death of us all.
Now they've released code under it. It doesn't matter that they had to, it matters that they did it. They undoubtedly had a team of lawyers looking at their options before doing this. If they were of the viro-communist mindset toward the GPL before this, they certainly aren't now. The lawyers must have told Microsoft that if they decided to play the "GPL is invalid" card, it would have been a very long and hard battle for defeat.
Okay... I'm no Microsoft fan by a long shot, but so what if they had been violating the GPL all this time before releasing the source code? I think that the important point is that they are doing so *NOW*... because, after all, isn't that the point of the GPL? Sure, in an ideal world they wouldn't have been violating the GPL in the first place, but if you will forgive me for the apparent paraphrasing Gandalf from LotR, there's really no point in dwelling on it because what's done is done... the most important thing is what we decide to do about it to make things better... _today_. And I really don't think that more Microsoft hatred is the way to accomplish that.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
Hell no, and did we surrender to Germans at Perl Harbor? Hell no! No surrender to M$. That's what I say.
I greet you, traveler from some unknown alternate universe. Where I come from, Japan attacked Pearl Harbor & the US survived it.
Libera te ex Inferis!
I'm not entirely sure you understand how reality works. The code was based on the GPL; the code was released. Somehow, Microsoft is _still_ a villain. I don't get it.
It's interesting to see a company which so violently protects their own code against violation treating their own copyright infringement so frivolously.
Isn't it amazing how /. posted yet another anti-Microsoft story?
Bunch of freakin' whiners.
Microsoft now says that they had already been on the path for several months toward releasing the software under GPLv2 before Kroah-Hartman got in touch.
I wonder if MS would accept that same reasoning if it were applied next time an auditor finds a pile of incorrectly licenses MS product in a company. "Ah, yes, that. I'm on the path toward paying for the licenses I should have."
What? Microsoft distributed code they did not have the legal right to distribute. It's very laudable that the company later came into compliance with a license which would give them the legal right to distribute that code, but that belated action does not legally excuse the original violation. Nobody is threatening the company.
what can be explained by sheer ignorance.
Microsoft, though we keep referring to them in the singular, has well over 80,000 employees, and I'm betting most of them are not versed in the nuances of the GPL licenses, neither their driver developers, nor the paralegals writing the EULA's (though I bet the lawyers are).
Now, this doesn't excuse them of a violation one bit. Though it's possible, I doubt they had a a strategy "all along" to open-source the drivers because they included GPL code - because they work with citrix maybe, but not purely due to the GPL bit.
It also doesn't mean they did this in an effort to subvert or screw with GPL code - Microsoft's grand-poo-bah executive committee might "hate the GPL", but it'd be good to remember that eight levels of management separate them from some device driver writer tasked with getting Linux to run in hyper-V (who may or may not be employed there any longer).
What really bothers me is the marketing spin they put on what is essentially complying with copyright laws. "Today, in a break from the ordinary, Microsoft..." yada yada - break from the ordinary my ass! This is what happened:
Then they went on with another spin:
"We arrived at the decision to release the drivers to the community under the GPLv2 through this process. Both Greg K-H and Jim Zemlin of the Linux Foundation have reiterated that this is the same process that other companies follow when deciding how to release new device drivers to the Linux community."
This is so typical - there are some half-truths in there. It is the normal process the FSF has pursued for getting violators in complience with the GPL, however, it is NOT the NORMAL process for those companies or individuals who genuinely want to donate code to the FSF or the linux kernel. "Today in a break from the ordinary..." yeah, well you can say this is a break for the ordinary, for usually it takes far more time to get Microsoft to comply with laws and regulations. 5 months only - amazing!
Donated?
I'm terribly sorry, but that one word pretty much screws your post, and your attitude. MS "donated" nothing. They were caught redhanded with their hands in the cookie jar. They were threatened with legal action, so they paid for the cookies, in the currency damanded by their victims.
The seperate issue of examining that code? Go for it. A lot of people are examining it right now, I suspect. ;)
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I think that this is a positive sign from Microsoft. For years they've been going on about how the GPL is a virus and communist and will be the death of us all.
Now they've released code under it. It doesn't matter that they had to, it matters that they did it. They undoubtedly had a team of lawyers looking at their options before doing this. If they were of the viro-communist mindset toward the GPL before this, they certainly aren't now. The lawyers must have told Microsoft that if they decided to play the "GPL is invalid" card, it would have been a very long and hard battle for defeat.
Microsoft may have said things to the effect of the GPL being possibly invalid, but there's no way they actually believed it. It's not like they only had their lawyers look at the license when they discovered they were violating it. If there was any actual hope of getting the license invalidated, then they would have created a test case scenario long ago. But no matter how much FUD they spout in public, when push comes to shove MS, like everyone else but a couple crazies like SCO, quietly moves to comply rather than fight a legal battle they know they won't win.
So I agree that this is a positive thing -- it's going to be harder for MS to spout anti-GPL FUD, and hey now there's more GPL software out there which is nice. But I don't see how this is a positive sign from Microsoft. I'd bet you anything this was simply a screw-up on their part, and they never had any intention of giving the GPL validation (which it theoretically shouldn't need, but practically speaking it can use). I don't see how complying with a license rather than fighting a legal battle they can't win and which would only make them look worse represents a sea change in their corporate mentality.
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They violated the GPL. That is a bad thing.
Complying with the license rather than trying to fight a legal battle they would certainly lose is not a good thing, it's a neutral thing. You're not being "good" when you serve the jail time the court sentences you to. You're not being "good" when you screw a supplier out of money you owe, then agree to pay them that money when you get caught. You don't get brownie points for doing what you are legally obligated to do to correct your mistakes!
So, net result: bad thing.
"Microsoft finally did what Slashdot has been demanding they do" -- what rubbish. They did it because if they didn't, they were going to get sued and this would have become an even more high-profile clump of dirt on their face. Now they can play it off to the gullible like they're being magnanimous, rather than be dragged kicking and screaming to the inevitable conclusion.
I don't remember Slashdot ever demanding Microsoft screw up and unwittingly violate the GPL, forcing them to either cripple their own product by removing the offending code or releasing the source.
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A lot of people get Lenin confused with others. Some think he wrote "Hey Jude" since it was about his kid but it was actually McCartney.