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Malaria Vaccine, Via Mosquito

CodeShark writes "The AP is reporting that mosquitoes have been used for the first time to deliver anti-malarial vaccine through their bites. According to this article the results were crystal clear: 100% of the vaccinated group acquired immunity, everyone in the non-vaccinated control group did not. Those in the control group and developed malaria when exposed to the parasites later, the vaccinated group did not. Malaria kills nearly a million people per year, mostly children."

178 comments

  1. Mutation by sopssa · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    This should be fun when the vaccine mutates in the mosquitoes that carry and spread it :)

    1. Re:Mutation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This should be fun when the vaccine mutates in the mosquitoes that carry and spread it :)

      They already made a movie about it.

      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0430334/

    2. Re:Mutation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Next, AIDS vaccinations via what?!?

    3. Re:Mutation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      It could develop into a disease that kills millions a year, like Malaria.

    4. Re:Mutation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anal sex?

    5. Re:Mutation by asCii88 · · Score: 0

      You have a strange conception of "fun"

    6. Re:Mutation by sopssa · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    7. Re:Mutation by Chyeld · · Score: 3, Funny
    8. Re:Mutation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent +1 awesome!

  2. Biology imitates computer science? by bcmm · · Score: 4, Funny

    Am I the only person reminded of the debate over whether it was OK to exploit holes in a botnet to disinfect other people's computers without their permission/knowledge?

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    1. Re:Biology imitates computer science? by bcmm · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, I read the article (sorry) and it's actually nothing to do with causing mosquitoes to spread a vaccine: the "vaccine" is regular malaria, and the treatment consists of letting people get bitten (and therefore exposed to the parasite) while giving them a drug which stops them actually getting malaria.

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    2. Re:Biology imitates computer science? by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Yes.

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    3. Re:Biology imitates computer science? by TinBromide · · Score: 1

      reminds me of quinine. They tried that once upon a time, it worked when it was being taken and it is still around in some tonic waters (but not enough to actually DO anything about malaria nowadays, that would be too bitter), but since malaria is still a problem, one can conclude that "stopping malaria after being bitten" is not the most effective preventative measure.

      The definition of insanity comes to mind.

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    4. Re:Biology imitates computer science? by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      No, RTFA! (or RTFA *again*) They used an unmodified parasite in the mosquito, while giving the test subjects an anti-malarial drug. This let the subjects build up an immunity to the real parasite while not suffering the effects of a full-blown infection in the process.

      There was a separate study referenced briefly in the article using an irradiated parasite, but that had nothing to do with the mosquito vector.

    5. Re:Biology imitates computer science? by maxume · · Score: 1

      To me, it sounded like the study in question used regular ol' malaria (the commercial development was pursuing a similar process using weakened malaria).

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    6. Re:Biology imitates computer science? by stoanhart · · Score: 3, Informative

      No, it's not the "usual money-making-trough-actually-not-healing-but-making-addicted-scheme."

      You take the anti-malaria drugs for a few months while getting bitten by mosquitos with real malaria. After a few months, you stop taking the drugs, because your body has used that time to develop an immunity to the parasites. From that point on, you are immune to malaria for the rest of your life, with no further drug costs.

    7. Re:Biology imitates computer science? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually why isn't this modded funny?

    8. Re:Biology imitates computer science? by zonker · · Score: 0

      Wow would it suck to be in the control group on this experiment.

  3. Thanks Bill Gates! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How much do you want to bet Bill had something to do with this? Someone, seriously, come up with a reason why he's doing this to only control the world. I need a laugh...

    1. Re:Thanks Bill Gates! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Gee, you central americans sure seem to like this Lunix I keep hearing about.

      It sure would be a shame if our malaria vaccine ran out. Have you seen Window 7? Oh, I think you'll find it's pretty nice...

  4. Okay, I read TFA, what I want to know is by dr2chase · · Score: 4, Interesting

    how in holy hell did they get that past the human subjects review board? Athlete's foot and common cold is one thing, intentionally infecting your control group with malaria is something else altogether.

    1. Re:Okay, I read TFA, what I want to know is by timmarhy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      malaria isn't a death sentence, if 10 people get malaria and become a bit sick, but it saves a million children, what would you do?

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    2. Re:Okay, I read TFA, what I want to know is by dr2chase · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's not a matter of personal sacrifice, it's a matter of getting it past human subjects review. My wife's run ordinary social-science studies in the past, you have to jump through ridiculous hoops just to ask people questions.

      And yes, the volunteers are heroes, even if all we get out of this is knowledge. (If you read the NEJM article, the process is a bit involved -- it takes weeks, you need a strain of malaria known to be well-treatable with existing drugs, it requires a little stable of infected mosquitos.)

    3. Re:Okay, I read TFA, what I want to know is by CorporateSuit · · Score: 5, Funny

      it requires a little stable of infected mosquitos.

      That sounds repulsive and adorable at the same time.

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    4. Re:Okay, I read TFA, what I want to know is by Hurricane78 · · Score: 0, Troll

      Well
      A) Drive to a clinic with malaria patients, and offer them a potential cure?
      or
      B) Intentionally infect poor people with malaria for money, without them telling so.

      What do you think is more likely, in the face of the current behavior of the disease industry?

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    5. Re:Okay, I read TFA, what I want to know is by localman57 · · Score: 1

      how in holy hell did they get that past the human subjects review board? Athlete's foot and common cold is one thing, intentionally infecting your control group with malaria is something else altogether.

      You're so cute. You think there's review boards in a lot of the countries that have malaria problems?
      Big Pharma: Hi, I'd like to do a study trial on malaria. Here's $10,000.

      Despot: How soon can you start? Oh, just out of curiousity, will you be infecting people with malaria, trying to cure malaria, or infecting people, then trying to cure it?

    6. Re:Okay, I read TFA, what I want to know is by timmarhy · · Score: 1

      from the tone in your first post it sounded like you didn't think it should get past. yes i can well imagine the hoops they jumped through - it is probably the tail end of 10 years of study for them

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    7. Re:Okay, I read TFA, what I want to know is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF? Vaccination isn't a cure. And what part of "informed consent" involves "without telling them so"?

    8. Re:Okay, I read TFA, what I want to know is by maxume · · Score: 1

      Soooo, are you describing the Netherlands there? That's where this study happened.

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    9. Re:Okay, I read TFA, what I want to know is by localman57 · · Score: 0

      Reading TFA is hard. More fun just to post. Seriously though, I did read the article. I was speaking more in generalities, and actually explaining the difference kinda threw off the cadence of the post. Or maybe I was generally just feeling trollish. Go ahead and mod me down if you want. That's what the points are there for... :-)

    10. Re:Okay, I read TFA, what I want to know is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know those ads on the subway that offer you $7,000 for three hours of work? Well, there's always a catch.

    11. Re:Okay, I read TFA, what I want to know is by dr2chase · · Score: 1

      How about, "I am completely boggled that it got through"? This is not man bites dog, this is man bites shark with frikkin lasers.

    12. Re:Okay, I read TFA, what I want to know is by bh_doc · · Score: 1

      I'm envisioning a line of "My Little Mozzie" children's animal dolls...

    13. Re:Okay, I read TFA, what I want to know is by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      Volunteer someone else.

    14. Re:Okay, I read TFA, what I want to know is by EvanTaylor · · Score: 3, Informative

      Had Malaria 8 times. If you know you have it and get treatment (pills or a shot) early, it isn't even as bad as a cold.

      Had a resistant form of Malaria once. It sucked balls because treatment would only work for a few days and then the symptoms would come back... harder. Took some stronger medicine and was fine.

      Malaria is not a big deal for healthy adults who can sense the symptoms. It is a HUGE deal for children who can not always understand the way they feel, or the elderly who have weak immune systems.

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    15. Re:Okay, I read TFA, what I want to know is by thesandtiger · · Score: 1

      No shit! The IRB at my university jumps all over us if we change the wording of an email announcing an appointment to participants, and that's for research classified as minimal risk!

      I'm AMAZED.

      The altruistic nature of the volunteers is wonderful to see, I agree.

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    16. Re:Okay, I read TFA, what I want to know is by ekran · · Score: 1

      I would sure hate to be in the control group for that experiment.

    17. Re:Okay, I read TFA, what I want to know is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you had really read TFA, you would have seen the study was conducted in The Netherlands, on normal Dutch people. Now I don't know how much you know about The Netherlands, but being a resident, I can tell you people here are more than rich enough to not fall for such "bribery" or tricks. Since malaria is not lethal in most cases (especially in monitored tests, where subjects are expected to develop it), I think it's quite safe to do this test.

    18. Re:Okay, I read TFA, what I want to know is by TheLink · · Score: 1

      Yeah I'm amazed the study managed to get approved and done.

      Chloroquine itself is also fairly toxic.

      Thing is, is the immunity limited to Plasmodium falciparum or do they also end up immune to Plasmodium vivax and the rest?

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    19. Re:Okay, I read TFA, what I want to know is by Cormacus · · Score: 1

      Think of the children?

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    20. Re:Okay, I read TFA, what I want to know is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should see the tiny saddles we put on them...

    21. Re:Okay, I read TFA, what I want to know is by Bowling+Moses · · Score: 1

      I wonder if the lab had an even harder time getting approval for raising a colony of mosquitoes known to be infected with malaria than getting approval for infecting volunteers with malaria. I work in an entomology lab that specializes in the yellow fever mosquito Aedes aegypti. As a part of that work, we maintain a colony of mosquitoes. For us, we just have a pair of percivals (incubator that controls temperature, light, humidity, some also control CO2 levels) that we raise the insects in at different life stages. We always have on hand at least eggs which can last months but usually also a few cages (glorified tupperware with heavy cloth mesh) of adults that are being mated to produce eggs, and frequently trays full of water to grow larvae. A handful of mosquitoes are usually loose and getting bit happens ~daily and is just accepted as an occupational hazard. A few people in lab actually no longer have an allergic response to a mosquito bite due to constant exposure. I think we're maybe a little cavalier about all of that, but we don't have, or need, any kind of special containment as the adults are not infected with any pathogen. But these guys are intentionally raising mosquitoes and then at some point introducing the malaria pathogen to them. While young female adult mosquitoes normally get the pathogen by biting an infected person, there must be a controlled way of doing this. I'm just wondering how they manage to have a high enough level of control to pass review. A glove box alone won't cut it as access to the chamber is typically just an inner and an outer hatch--too easy for a mosquito to get through. Maybe they had to rig it up with a refrigeration unit. If you cool insects down, they get much slower. We use chill plates (peltier coolers--it's not just for CPUs!) to immobilize adult mosquitoes for microinjections or microsurgery. However even with a refrigeration unit as precaution there seems to be a risk of accidental release. Damn, I want to see their setup.

  5. RTFA by argent · · Score: 4, Informative

    The "vaccine" is the parasite itself... oh just RTFA.

  6. I think they filed the test subjects by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    under dumbasses.

    1. Re:I think they filed the test subjects by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 1

      Well the vaccinated group will never be vulnerable to malaria again... sounds smart to me

    2. Re:I think they filed the test subjects by perlchimp · · Score: 1

      Well, when they come out with mosquitoes carrying a possible HIV vaccine, feel free to jump to the front of the line. The subjects most likely did not know if they were placebo and they knew they would be subjected to infection either way. There is no possible way they could have known the efficacy of the vaccine.

    3. Re:I think they filed the test subjects by falconwolf · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well the vaccinated group will never be vulnerable to malaria again...

      Says who? Because it is a new study they have not been able to see how long the immunity remains. Also they used mosquitoes infected with Plasmodium falciparum which is one but not the only parasite which causes malaria. Immunity also presupposes it won't evolve.

      Falcon

  7. Good news, everyone by smash · · Score: 3, Informative

    ... whether or not you agree with the method of delivery or not, this is good news. Thus far there has been no *vaccine* for malaria, merely drugs to take while you're exposed to the risk of catching it. Unfortunately, at least one of these has undesirable long term side-effects...

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    1. Re:Good news, everyone by bcmm · · Score: 4, Informative

      It isn't a vaccine. It's just taking drugs that stop you actually developing malaria, then getting bitten. Regular unmodified malaria parasite is the "vaccine".

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    2. Re:Good news, everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It isn't a vaccine. It's just taking drugs that stop you actually developing malaria, then getting bitten. Regular unmodified malaria parasite is the "vaccine".

      Let me guess, you're also the guy at the party telling us that it's not a "song" because it doesn't have vocals in it, right?

    3. Re:Good news, everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      but aren't vaccines just a weakened version of the virus? this would weaken the virus after it enters into your body, not before.

    4. Re:Good news, everyone by mindstrm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It is absolutely a vaccine. After being exposed to this combination of things - you both

      a) Don't get malaria
      and
      b) are now immune to malaria

    5. Re:Good news, everyone by Hurricane78 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      You forgot the absolute key catch in this thing, that pharma companies intentionally keep quiet about:

      You only are immune to malaria as long as you pay them money by buying their pills and taking them.

      When you are caught in it, it's the perfect extortion trap: Stop giving us money, and you DIE!
      Who does this remind you of, hmmm?

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    6. Re:Good news, everyone by Dahamma · · Score: 2, Informative

      You only are immune to malaria as long as you pay them money by buying their pills and taking them.

      Sigh.

      That was the whole POINT of the study! They stopped taking the anti-malarial drug, but since they were exposed to the parasite so many times while taking it, they are now immune WITHOUT the drugs.

    7. Re:Good news, everyone by maxume · · Score: 1

      The effect was observed 4 weeks after the subjects ceased taking chloroquine.

      So good work freaking out about how evil these researchers are. The paper is here:

      http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/361/5/468

      Linked earlier here:

      http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1321071&cid=28890691

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    8. Re:Good news, everyone by internettoughguy · · Score: 1

      usually the material is "dead" if thats the correct word, but yes this still counts as a vaccine

    9. Re:Good news, everyone by smash · · Score: 1
      Its not a "vaccine" in the traditional sense, but the end result is the same. before this, the only way to not get malaria was to keep taking the drugs. Which, as I mentioned, have undesirable long term side effects (basically, take them too long and they make you batshit crazy).

      ... I mention this as someone who travels internationally, occasionally to African nations - so I've had all the vaccines for shit they can prevent that way (typhoid, yellow fever, rabies, etc, etc) - malaria isn't one of them.

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    10. Re:Good news, everyone by ParticleGirl · · Score: 1

      ... Unfortunately, at least one of these has undesirable long term side-effects...

       
      Most of them have undesirable side-effects. In the malarial area where I work, the choices are effectively doxycycline or chloroquine. In both cases, you start dosing some time before possible exposure to malaria, and continue to take the drug for quite some time after last possible exposure. Doxycycline has to be taken every day, and most people I know who take it have stomach aches and/or nausea for a couple of hours after they take it, each time. (A couple of hours of nausea! Every day!

      To not have to take a prophylactic drug to protect against malaria would be truly awesome.

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    11. Re:Good news, everyone by bcmm · · Score: 1

      Gah, but "track" sound so stupid.

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    12. Re:Good news, everyone by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

      Its not a "vaccine" in the traditional sense

      Yeah, if it were a vaccine in the traditional sense you'd be bitten by huge flying cows, not little mosquitoes.

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    13. Re:Good news, everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's just taking drugs that stop you actually developing malaria, then getting bitten. Regular unmodified malaria parasite is the "vaccine".

      It's not administered like most other vaccines nowadays, but it's, by definition, a vaccine.. From wikipedia:

      "Vaccines can be prophylactic (e.g. to prevent or ameliorate the effects of a future infection by any natural or "wild" pathogen), or therapeutic (e.g. vaccines against cancer are also being investigated; see cancer vaccine).

      The term vaccine derives from Edward Jenner's 1796 use of the term cow pox (Latin variolæ vaccinæ, adapted from the Latin vaccÄn-us, from vacca cow), which, when administered to humans, provided them protection against smallpox."

      Normal vaccines often use weakened microorganisms to train the body to react more strongly to the kind of microorganism in question. "Cow pox", for one, doesn't affect humans as much as small pox but they look similar to the body's immune system, making cow pox a reasonable vaccine for small pox.

      In the case of malaria, they haven't been able to keep the subjects alive long enough to develop a proper resistance due to the lack of "mild" malaria strands.. Then they tried this new drug - and since the subjects developed resistance to the point of immunity, it seems to work so well that these researchers have just potentially cured malaria.. Great news!

    14. Re:Good news, everyone by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      For how long?? A week? A year? I bet it fades off and is no real immunity.

      Also, people: If you disagree, you can say so! Moderation is completely unrelated to agreeing.

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    15. Re:Good news, everyone by shiftless · · Score: 1

      I'm in Afghanistan now and am supposed to be taking doxycycline. Not only do the side effects include nausea, but I've heard it causes nightmares, too. Fuck that shit, I'll take my chances. Coincidentally my ass is getting ate up with mosquitoes at this very moment..hope I don't get malaria.. :)

    16. Re:Good news, everyone by Lord+Artemis · · Score: 1

      Well crap, man. It reminds me about the absolute key catch that all those food companies intentionally keep quiet about where they will keep you fed as long as you pay them money by buying their food and eating it.

      When you are caught in it, it's the perfect extortion trap: Stop giving us money, and you DIE!

      Yeah, it's like every single other industry or vaccine—you pay them for it, and they feed you or keep you from getting a certain disease. That's just how these things work.

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  8. Answering my own question by dr2chase · · Score: 4, Informative
    From the REAL FA

    All subjects provided written informed consent. The trial was approved by the institutional review board at the Radboud University Nijmegen Medical Centre. The study sponsor, the Dioraphte Foundation, was not involved in the design of the study, in the gathering or analysis of the data, or in the writing of the manuscript.

    Damn. Informed consent to malaria infection.

    1. Re:Answering my own question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it even remotely possible that these scientists know just a LITTLE BIT more than you, and you, oh, and you over there too! If anyone here is in fact smarter than these dudes intentionally infecting folks with malaria willy nilly, I'd ask that you get your asses over there straight away and save some lives. I thank you sirs.

    2. Re:Answering my own question by martinX · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I worked in a research lab next to a bunch that did malaria vaccine work. They ran human trials occasionally and were always on the lookout for vict--- errr, volunteers. In this country, you can't pay people for taking part so they were offering book vouchers. Seriously. And it would have taken place on the weekend. My weekend not at work. I politely declined.

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  9. population control by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    so, a million more people a year in malaria infested regions? That's going to hugely tax the infrastructure that's not counting on the population boom.

    let it be, and while you're at it, abandon the research into a swine flu vaccine. There's too many people already on this planet.

    1. Re:population control by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree, do us a favor and kill yourself.

  10. Everybody has AIDS by sakdoctor · · Score: 4, Funny

    Next up, new AIDS vaccine is delivered by sluts.

    1. Re:Everybody has AIDS by santax · · Score: 1

      Good thing, now maybe ms. Santax wil get of her lazy ass and start bringing in some cash too.

    2. Re:Everybody has AIDS by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Your being funny*, but a modified AIDS virus is being looked at as a way to deal with the AIDS virus.

      *for different values of funny. Particular low values in your case.

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    3. Re:Everybody has AIDS by IHateEverybody · · Score: 1

      Someone actually tried this....

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    4. Re:Everybody has AIDS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bugger, I'll never develop an immunity. I can't even get laid by sluts!!!!

    5. Re:Everybody has AIDS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very William Gibson. Remember the novel Virtual Light?

  11. Terrible summary text by John+Whitley · · Score: 5, Informative

    The summary text is completely misleading vs. the article text. The mosquitoes don't "deliver" a vaccine. A combination technique is used, involving an existing anti-malarial drug and repeated exposure to the parasites via mosquitoes, to cause natural immunity to develop, essentially controlling a known path to malaria immunity. The article indicates this approach isn't usable on a practical scale, yet is important because:

    "This is not a vaccine" as in a commercial product, but a way to show how whole parasites can be used like a vaccine to protect against disease, said one of the Dutch researchers, Dr. Robert Sauerwein.

    The article does mentions separate work to commercialize a related approach involving weakened malaria parasites.

    1. Re:Terrible summary text by Weedhopper · · Score: 1

      Yep. This is a good exercise in demonstrating how many /.ers actually RTFA and of the ones that do, have enough reading comprehension to understand what the article is telling them.

  12. This needs modding by Louse · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Did anyone else see that XSS?

    1. Re:This needs modding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hacks abound

    2. Re:This needs modding by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I didn't see anything else. No script sometimes = no fun but damn people, if you can't make a simple news site without cross site scripting, maybe you should find another line of work...

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  13. Yes it is. by geekoid · · Score: 5, Informative

    I read it, and it is a vaccine.
    From Wikipedia, bold by me.

    A vaccine is a biological preparation that improves immunity to a particular disease. A vaccine typically contains a small amount of an agent that resembles a microorganism. The agent stimulates the body's immune system to recognize the agent as foreign, destroy it, and "remember" it, so that the immune system can more easily recognize and destroy any of these microorganisms that it later encounters.

    from tjer article:

    "This is not a vaccine" as in a commercial product"
    It is not produced like a vaccines are ready for commercial use. In fact it may never be anything but a 'study aid' to learn more about getting a commercially available product.

    "The concept already is in commercial development. A company in Rockville, Md. â" Sanaria Inc. â" is testing a vaccine using whole parasites that have been irradiated to weaken them, hopefully keeping them in an immature stage in the liver to generate immunity but not cause illness."

    so, yes this concept is being used as a vaccine, just not for malaria.

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  14. Kind of a waste by countertrolling · · Score: 1

    If somebody ever invents the perfect mosquito repellent.

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  15. Vodka Tonic by EastCoastSurfer · · Score: 1

    I prefer to just drink a few extra vodka tonics to prevent malaria when I'm in locations that are known to have it in the mosquito population :)

  16. Attacks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder how soon before another group, Al Qaeda, or even another nation of say North Korea or Iran, decides to do a 2 prong attack? They can stock the mosquito's in an area with a virus that makes ppl susceptible to another attack. Loads of interesting angles on this. Dr. Evil anybody? if not him, then W. Bush or even Wen Jiabao.

  17. Um, OK. by localman57 · · Score: 1

    Cool experimient. Seriously. Very cool. Mosquitos curing malaria. Neat! But, I just gotta ask; wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't ask... Why can't we just use needles and syringes like everybody else?

    1. Re:Um, OK. by Repossessed · · Score: 3, Informative

      Presumably because areas with Malaria problems are poor, really fucking poor, as in they've never seen a dollar. That makes distributing a vaccine difficult, since you can't have the locals pay for it, nor do they have a good infrastructure for the delivery even if the Gates foundation or the like picks up the tab.

      This method isn't really practical for the same reasons, but TFA mentions a live vaccine that could conceivably be used the same way, and cheaply.

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    2. Re:Um, OK. by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 1

      My guess would be, if it didn't work, it's easier to deny infecting people intentionally with mosquito bites than with needles. But honestly if I had to get injected with something, I think I'd rather have it done with a mosquito rather than a needle.

    3. Re:Um, OK. by mauthbaux · · Score: 1

      because the parasite that causes malaria can't fully develop into the human pathogen outside of the mosquito (among other reasons).

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    4. Re:Um, OK. by bcmm · · Score: 1

      I've never seen a dollar, because I live in the UK, where we have proper money.

      I got given one of those US coins that's the same size as a new 5p (is the "dime" the tiny one?) once, though, in place of a real 5p, which was somewhat annoying.

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    5. Re:Um, OK. by quadrox · · Score: 1

      Ok, when I was a child I too was "afraid" of needles (as most kids probably are). But now I don't see the problem anymore, it's very very short sting that fades away immediately and doesn't even hurt much to begin with.

      In contrast, a mosquito bite is bound to itch for hours.

    6. Re:Um, OK. by Repossessed · · Score: 1

      No, what you haven't seen is the physical representation of a dollar. But thats just a piece of paper in the end, and your pounds or whatever they're called are worth a fair bit more than a dollar iirc.

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  18. What happens when we eliminate malaria by sliverstorm · · Score: 0, Troll

    Yes, it could be destroying malaria will do only positive things, but if we release this vaccine into the wild and it proliferates, and the virus is no more, do we really know what will happen? Of course, I've never heard of a negative fallout from the elimination of smallpox, but who knows. We gotta be careful when we go about systematically eradicating something.

    1. Re:What happens when we eliminate malaria by Zapo_Verde · · Score: 0

      This isn't a vaccine that is released "into the wild". Its just people using the medicine while being repeatedly bitten by malaria infested mosquitos. After a few months of this they gain immunity to malaria. Yea, it's a terrible idea to eliminate diseases like polio and malaria, which cause misery to millions of impoverished people through out the world. There are no upsides to keeping these diseases around. They aren't grand contributors to the ecosystem. They only cause destruction.

  19. "Those and developed malaria"? by SEWilco · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Those in the control group and developed malaria when exposed to the parasites later, the vaccinated group did not.

    Rephrase, please. The control group did what?

    1. Re:"Those and developed malaria"? by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 1

      I think you just have to take out the word "and"...

    2. Re:"Those and developed malaria"? by Kingrames · · Score: 1

      The and is just an and.

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  20. Maybe it's just because I don't know enough bio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...but it makes me shiver to think about the release of genetically engineered flying parasite insects amongst a population.

  21. OK, UTFA by argent · · Score: 4, Informative

    OK, UNDERSTAND the fine article.

    The only place where mosquitoes are involved here is that they're exposing the volunteers to mosquitoes to infect them with parasites that are weakened (in their body) through quinine. That part, that is, using mosquitoes to infect the people with parasites, is the part that's not commercially viable... the company in Rockville is using externally weakened parasites... weakened OUTSIDE the body by radiation... no mosquitoes involved.

    1. Re:OK, UTFA by ImOnlySleeping · · Score: 1

      This is accurate.

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  22. I think they are missing something by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I grew up in Central African Republic and have had malaria once, and also had dozens of relapses. Malaria stays in your blood and you are at risk for a relapse even after you have recovered with or without medicine. Go server in the US military and contract Malaria while you are overseas on assignment and you will get an extra 600 check each month because it is considered a permanent disability.

    1. Re:I think they are missing something by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      It depends on the species of malaria you get. There are two popular flavors of malaria, Plasmodium falciparum (which can kill you outright) and Plasmodium vivax (which generally doesn't kill you though in India there are some cases of fatal infections).

      You probably had P. vivax which has been known to stay dormant in the liver for years after the initial exposure.

      The vaccines are for P. falciparum because this bug can kill you within 48 hours of the onset of symptoms. That generally only happens maybe 1 out of 100 times though.

      Also P. flaciparum is the only malaria parasite that can be grown in the lab. This makes it easier to manipulate for manufacturing a vaccine.

    2. Re:I think they are missing something by EvanTaylor · · Score: 1

      4 types

      Plasmodium vivaX <---- BAD MOTHER, does not go away
      Plasmodium malariae <---- easy to treat
      Plasmodium ovale <---- not so strong symptoms
      Plasmodium falciparum <---- can be resistant to treatment, can hit like a 5 ton truck

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    3. Re:I think they are missing something by Weedhopper · · Score: 1

      People can have falciparum relapses and onset of symptoms, partcularly for cerebral malaria can be delayed as well.

    4. Re:I think they are missing something by ProfessionalCookie · · Score: 1

      Liver.

  23. reminds me of quinine by falconwolf · · Score: 0

    In the study they used Chloroquine which is a type of quinine.

    malaria is still a problem

    And likely will be for years.

    one can conclude that "stopping malaria after being bitten" is not the most effective preventative measure.

    Because malaria carrying mosquitoes will be around for many years to come, the best way to prevent an infection is by preventing being bitten. However as many can't prevent it a vaccine is likely to be effective.

    Personally I don't why people get bitten by mosquitoes so much, I rarely ever get bitten, even in a crowd while others are getting bitten. Maybe it's because I eat a lot of garlic.

    Falcon

    1. Re:reminds me of quinine by bennomatic · · Score: 3, Informative

      You may want to get your cholesterol checked. Apparently, mozzies are more attracted to people who process cholesterol efficiently and don't have a lot stacked up in their blood.

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    2. Re:reminds me of quinine by Plunky · · Score: 1

      Personally I don't why people get bitten by mosquitoes so much, I rarely ever get bitten, even in a crowd while others are getting bitten. Maybe it's because I eat a lot of garlic

      Further to the previous reply, it is often the case that you actually do get bitten just as much as the person with itchy bites all over them (and are at the same risk of malaria or yellow fever or dengue fever) but the truth is that your reaction to the mosquitoes anaesthetic is not as severe as theirs. Probably because you are accustomed to it, but it could be that your immune system is depressed somehow.

      Or it could be your diet..

    3. Re:reminds me of quinine by Missing_dc · · Score: 1

      Personally I don't why people get bitten by mosquitoes so much, I rarely ever get bitten, even in a crowd while others are getting bitten.

      I'm sure your smug aloofness to your neighbors' plight is a real hit at BBQs.

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    4. Re:reminds me of quinine by falconwolf · · Score: 1

      I'm sure your smug aloofness to your neighbors' plight is a real hit at BBQs.

      Not quite. Growing up I used to go to BBQ frequently, maybe 2 or 3 tymes a month from late spring to fall with up to 10 families. Most of them fished, gardened, and or hunted. And we'd cook before hand or BBQ at the site a lot of this. I only noticed I wasn't getting bitten after hanging out with people in college. Those who went to the BBQs didn't have problems with mosquitoes, but those I met in college did. My problem growing up was with fire ants, it seemed to me they were attracted to my feet. Which would swell up after being bitten half a dozen tymes.

      Now if you want to talk about this smug aloofness of yours, I used to get made fun of because of the fire ants.

      Falcon

    5. Re:reminds me of quinine by Missing_dc · · Score: 1

      It was an attempt at sarcasm.

      On a lighter note, when I was 12, I got stung between the knuckles of a thumb by a yellow jacket and my hand swelled so bad that I could not bend my fingers at all. After the hospital determined that I was not going into shock, I got sent home and subsequently to school. My hand stayed that way for 2 weeks and my mom was considering taking me to the hospital to have it drained (I think she said lanced). I was picking at the scab of the sting and must have removed the tip of a stinger or something because it had returned to almost normal size by the next day. However, 2 weeks of school in the 80s, with a hand so swollen that I could not write or pick things up earned me the unfortunate nickname "the cabbage patch kid" That name stuck with me until the end of the school year when my family(thankfully) moved across the country.

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    6. Re:reminds me of quinine by falconwolf · · Score: 1

      It was an attempt at sarcasm.

      I took it as criticism not sarcasm.

      I got stung between the knuckles of a thumb by a yellow jacket

      I got stung by a wasp at school in high school. It flew into a classroom and I tried to let it out. I used to catch bees and would let them crawl on my hands and never got stung so I tried to catch the wasp as well but it did sting me. I'd still like to have an apiary though.

      Falcon

  24. Terrible idea. by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 1, Interesting

    This, if it really worked, would eventually create a million more deaths and vastly increased food shortages, poverty, suffering and children dying of starvation when the malaria population limiting factor is removed. We really must incorporate educational programs into vaccination programs that encourage people to have small families with the goal of stabilising population levels, and make condoms and contraceptives more available.

    Also I question the ethics of administering a vaccine in a way that people cannot resist it. It should be a basic right to refuse a vaccine, adn the only people that would effect is those who do not accept the vaccine. Why not just deliver the vaccine in a shot? sure a little more expensive, but, seems to be more ethical. This would allow the dose to be more precisely controlled as well with a mosquito there is no telling how much a person could get, and what if there is a long term adverse health effect? The idea of using mosquitos really is dangerous, seems to to be dicey and invention for crazy things to happen with mutations and so on, that might actually create some sort of disasterous environmental consequence.

    1. Re:Terrible idea. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      you sir are an idiot...

      In some areas there is a 50% child mortality rate from malaria...and in some cases that mortality includes both the unborn child and the mother. There are already food shortages and poverty in Africa which for the most part is due to the disease burden on people.

      The problem with Africa is no one wanted to due business there during the industrial revolution because of the disease burden there and this thing were there were limited natural resources. No infrastructure has been developed and hence little wide spread industry beyond South Africa.

      And why not make it a shot? Because nobody can harvest enough sporozoites to put it in a shot yet. Dumbass if they could they would.

    2. Re:Terrible idea. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That this is modded interesting itself is quite appaling.
      Developing a vaccine for malaria is a terrible idea? That too because a population limiting factor is removed ?
      You, sir, have no heart.

    3. Re:Terrible idea. by Mashiki · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How the hell did that post get to +4? Must be heartless mod night on /.

      Did you know that Africa could feed itself, and half the world if they simply stopped fighting. Went to modern farming techniques and stopped fighting? That Zimbabwe was once the breadbasket of Africa and fed nearly the entire sub-content before Mugabe came to power. I for one welcome the eradication of diseases that are terrible and crippling.

      Perhaps we should just stop all immunizations world wide, and let people drop dead. Well that's fine with me, I'm vaccinated against everything I can be. But tell that to some 4 year old kid who will never walk and live in an iron lung because mommy and daddy had a conscience attack, and refused to give her a polio vaccination.

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    4. Re:Terrible idea. by dissy · · Score: 1

      Also I question the ethics of administering a vaccine in a way that people cannot resist it. It should be a basic right to refuse a vaccine, adn the only people that would effect is those who do not accept the vaccine. Why not just deliver the vaccine in a shot?

      Woah, where did all of that come from? Why would you even think that?

      All subjects provided written informed consent. The trial was approved by the institutional review board at the Radboud University Nijmegen Medical Centre.

      And you got modded +5 insightful, for asking a question already answered in the article...
      I think I just threw up in my throat a little :/

    5. Re:Terrible idea. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want to control the population, can't you think of a better way than to do it with disease? I look at these countries where they eat dirt and rocks just to keep something in their bellies, not because it's going to keep them alive, but supposedly it takes away some of the pain for a time.

      How about we try to get people to have vasectomies or hysterectomies? Or we could distribute some condoms or birth control, preferably the shot or the implant that lasts for years. I would suggest, at the very least, that we not withdraw their funding if they even mention abortion in a clinic, talk about free speech.

      Just some ideas, I guess disease is the cheapest way to control a population, but is it really alright with you that we consider that a reason to not do anything to try and vaccinate against it? If it is, you might want to look into procuring a soul.

      Just my $0.02...

    6. Re:Terrible idea. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, what you're saying is, let a million African kids die of Malaria because we don't have enough food to feed them if they lived?

      You, sir, are not only terribly mistaken (we grow far more than enough food, it is just all eaten by people in the West who have gluttonous diets), but you are also a racist of the highest order.

      If those were a million American kids dying from a disease than can be cured for less than $5 a time, what would you say we should do?

    7. Re:Terrible idea. by am+2k · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The best way to get the population levels down is to have a better life standard. Just look at the birth rates in Europe and North America.

    8. Re:Terrible idea. by gknoy · · Score: 1

      If they suddenly lose the deaths toll from malaria, and do not stop fighting, they won't have the infrastructure to support the extra mouths.

      If they stopped fighting, they could support it relatively easily, assuming they don't have to worry about things like gov't corruption.

      Now, the key question: How likely are they to stop fighting each other?

    9. Re:Terrible idea. by Halo1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      >

      Did you know that Africa could feed itself, and half the world if they simply stopped fighting. Went to modern farming techniques and stopped fighting?

      The situation is actually far worse than that. E.g., fairly stable countries like Burkina Faso could easily generate more money than they need every year with their cotton production, if it weren't for

      • subsidies by the US and European Union to their own cotton producers that keep the price of cotton on the world market artificially low
      • "free" trade agreements that forbid Burkina Faso to locally process the cotton and turn it into higher margin finished products

      If you ever have the opportunity, I'd strongly recommend you to watch Let's Make Money. Even if you think that you already have an idea about the kind of abuses that are going on, it really is an eye opener in many ways.

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    10. Re:Terrible idea. by tyroneking · · Score: 1

      I totally agree (not). We should allow blind drivers too, and the RIAA should be allowed to bankrupt file sharers out of house and home to they die on the streets. Too many people is the problem and the way to solve it is to kill them.

      Here you are with a problem (lack of resources) to which the natural solution is to let people die... were it only so. Ignoring the facts of the situation (Africa's "problems" derive from war and conflict as much as too many people; malaria is a disease that even nature cannot resolve - the only resistance being sickle cell anemia; we are happy enough to eradicate polio through mass vaccination; rejection of MMR vaccination programmes by people who want to make their own mind up has led to increases in illness in developed countries) the basic fact remains that people's lives, all lives, are too valuable to be dismissed for ANY reason; contraception is fine; death to conserve resources is not. It's complicated, not mathematical, but basic human empathy requires it; basic ethics requires it. Tough eh?

      Worse still, in a few years global warming will see mosquitoes across the EU and US... what then? If we don't eradicate malaria before that happens we are all done for. Or maybe we should let the poor die and then resolve the situation when it reaches the richer nations?

    11. Re:Terrible idea. by skorch · · Score: 1

      How the hell did that post get to +4? Must be heartless mod night on /.

      Did you know that Africa could feed itself, and half the world if they simply stopped fighting. Went to modern farming techniques and stopped fighting? That Zimbabwe was once the breadbasket of Africa and fed nearly the entire sub-content before Mugabe went insane and power hungry. I for one welcome the eradication of diseases that are terrible and crippling.

      Perhaps we should just stop all immunizations world wide, and let people drop dead. Well that's fine with me, I'm vaccinated against everything I can be. But tell that to some 4 year old kid who will never walk and live in an iron lung because mommy and daddy had a conscience attack, and refused to give her a polio vaccination.

      Adjusted for you. Zimbabwe remained perfectly productive and stable for more than a decade after Mugabe took power. It wasn't till he became paranoid that the problems started.

    12. Re:Terrible idea. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People, if you're going to put the effort into writing a two paragraph post bitching about something, how about reading the fucking article first so you realize how half of what you say is bullshit?

      THEY ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO MOSQUITOES. Jesus Christ people, how fucking stupid are you all? How many times does that have to be answered before you assholes quit posting?

    13. Re:Terrible idea. by dontPanik · · Score: 1

      It's completely laughable that now you're modded to +5 while the OP is now a troll.

      What he said had truth in it, even if it does have a somber meaning.

      I'm sure he isn't gleefully advocating the idea that no one in Africa should get immunized, and you're creating a straw man by implied he is. He's pointing out the dangerous population explosion that will occur in Africa in the next ten-ish years. Africa will not be able to handle this population explosion, and all of your silly bleeding heart rhetoric won't be able to save them.

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/aug/25/uganda.mainsection

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    14. Re:Terrible idea. by RandomFactor · · Score: 1

      Worse still, in a few years global warming will see mosquitoes across the EU and US... what then? If we don't eradicate malaria before that happens we are all done for.

      Yeah, glad we don't have Mosquitos here in Georgia. Think I'll go throw away my foggers and DEET...

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    15. Re:Terrible idea. by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Humanity creates it's own solutions. I can say, I'm not a liberal. But an evil blood sucking conservative. You're faced with a problem, you find a consider, and find a solution. We're pretty good at doing that, don't worry. Population explosions aren't anything to worry about.

      You're faced with a need for more food? You continue to modify crops as need be to improve yields. Big shock, we've been doing it for the last 15,000 years. And actually he implied that it should be a choice, I'm at the opposite end of the scale. Severe diseases that cripple or destroy a person, shouldn't be a choice. That's why in many parts of north america if(count on work/school) it's mandatory to be immunized.

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    16. Re:Terrible idea. by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Adjusted for you. Zimbabwe remained perfectly productive and stable for more than a decade after Mugabe took power. It wasn't till he became paranoid that the problems started.

      He was always insane and power hungry. However like many dictators, you can't crush those under you until you've secured your power base and remove those that have a chance of removing you from power. That consolidation.

      It can take months(rarely), years(more often), and decades(the rarest). Just take a look at any dictatorship in the world.

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    17. Re:Terrible idea. by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Now, the key question: How likely are they to stop fighting each other?

      That, is something I don't have an answer to. Takes a smarter mind then mine to figure it out. Besides, I'm more focused on macro-ethical, and socio-economics than interpersonal, and tribal which is a shame because that's where 90% of all conflict originiates.

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    18. Re:Terrible idea. by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      The best way to get the population levels down is to have a better life standard. Just look at the birth rates in Europe and North America.

      Actually, America's population is increasing, but you're right: it's not because Americans are breeding more Americans. But yeah, I understand that Germany is suffering a severe population decline. That's too bad: they still make the bulk of the world's precision machine tools.

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    19. Re:Terrible idea. by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 1

      Do you nthink food shortages which ALREADY exist will get any better with a rapid increases in population growth? The birth rates are already very high in africa so in many cases its likely that malaria brings it just down to replacement level. We know that population growth is unsustainable in the long run as sure as the sun sets in the west, simply because the earth has a limited surface area, arable land is limited and it takes fairly ideal, uncommon conditions to grow a decent diet, so we shouldnt structure things around population growth. The figures you stated, with poverty already being present and the malaria incidence such as it is actually paints a picture that would show that hunger and starvation would balloon out of control perhaps even in such a way that there would be no net lives saved by this vaccine. The solution i said was to encourage contraception to control population growth when the vaccine is administered.

    20. Re:Terrible idea. by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 1

      I did not say it was a terrible idea. Its a good idea. I said it was a terrible idea to administer a vaccine without a contraceptive program to encourage sustainable, stable population trends.

    21. Re:Terrible idea. by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 1

      I never said vaccines should be stopped. I support a vaccine. I said it was a terrible idea to not administer the vaccine program without some contraceptive programs which would help reduce incidence of aids and children out of wedlock and would encourage stable, sustainable population trends.

    22. Re:Terrible idea. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have to use a two-prong approach. There is one method for universally dropping population growth: make sure the women are educated. So set up schools and distribute the antimalarials at them.

    23. Re:Terrible idea. by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 1

      I never said population should becontrolled with disease? Did you even read what I wrote before you sent this rubbish? I believe that the vaccine should be provided and that contraceptives provided and education along with the vaccine program.

    24. Re:Terrible idea. by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 1

      I never said that we should not administer the vaccine. I said the vaccine should be administered with a contraceptive and education program to encourage stable and sustainable population trends. This policy would prevent many deaths. Didnt you read what i said? Good grief.

    25. Re:Terrible idea. by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 1

      I said that we should administer the vaccine and at the same time, deliver contraceptives and educational programs for sustainable, stable population levels. This would help prevent poverty and suffering by preventing depletion of the finite land and water resources they have to work with. More population growth would lead to increases in starvation and suffering, and this happens in places as well where malaria is not a big problem simply because land and water resources are just so overexploited. I am not against the vaccine. i want many lives to be saved by the vaccine.

    26. Re:Terrible idea. by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 1

      I never said that. I said the vaccine should be delivered along with contraceptives and education to encourage stable, sustainable population levels. Even where malaria is not common, there are still problems with exhaustion of resources due to overexplotation and increasing demand due to population growth, or we are destroying rainforests and killing off whats left of the planets oxygen producers. There are a lot of countries with very high poverty and almost no malaria. So dont try to think hat getting rid of malaria will solve the problems of starvation and poverty. There is desperately needed a sustainable, stable population level so we do not overextend our use of finite resources.

    27. Re:Terrible idea. by towermac · · Score: 1

      It's the fact that you keep linking them:you imply that you would withhold the vaccine if they didn't come to your "Sustainable Population Levels and Theory" class that i guess you would insist be held under an acacia tree. Then you could give out the quinine at the end of the class. Or not, if they didn't pay attention and take good notes maybe. Oh, but a pad and pencil costs 2 days wages...

      Sorry I'm picking on you. But both are good things and worthy of the charity of people like you. Although, trying to put myself in some sub-Saharan dude's shoes (painful ropey flip flops?), I'm thinking I'd get in the "prevent malaria" line before the "preach at me like this shit is my fault" line. Maybe that's just me.

    28. Re:Terrible idea. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Alter the vaccine to also have a x% change of sterilizing the recipient. Then you get both together.

    29. Re:Terrible idea. by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Alter the vaccine to also have a x% change of sterilizing the recipient. Then you get both together.

      We had eugenics in Canada at one time. Ugly business that, immoral not to mention highly unethical. There's some lines you shouldn't cross. There's some lines you can't cross, there's some lines that when you do cross, you're just an evil fuck.

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    30. Re:Terrible idea. by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 1

      I never said that the vaccine program would be conditional on contraceptive program but they should be provided simultaneously. They are educational programs and family planning services. If we ever wish to help these people and get poverty under control, we need to provide these services so that they are better informed to make better reproductive choices. We have limited land and water resources. The fact that millions die of starvation every yer and this planet is teetering on ecological collapse with massive rainforest loss and wars and fighting over remaining water supplies is testament to that. You do care about saving lives don't you? At the rate things are gong poverty will never be solved as we are outstripping resources with unsustainable growth. To wish to have societal trends which will cause children to suffer and die and to resist the efforts of family planning that would prevent such deaths is to wish for suffering of children.

    31. Re:Terrible idea. by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 1

      Really its sick that you would mention such a thing.
      Family planning and educational programs are completely humane and ethical and simply provide information so people can make better, more sustainable reproductive choices. Why, if we cant already feed the people we have, do we want to encourage rapid population growth which will result in millions more starving children. Every 5 seconds another child starves to death. Those who resist family planning and educational programs which simply educate people to plan the number of children they have and provide contraceptives, seem almost intent on assuring that we will have an unending tragedy of starvation and death of children. Population growth continues to outpace efforts to solve the famine crisis , with ever increasing demand and finite resources famine is inevitable. The earth is not expanding.

  25. Next up, new AIDS vaccine is delivered by sluts. by falconwolf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Slashdot had an article about how some prostitutes in an African country were immune to AIDS. When I searched I didn't find it but I found another where two Women in China were immune due to a mutant gene.

    Falcon

  26. Re:Next up, new AIDS vaccine is delivered by sluts by repapetilto · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You can get a mutation in the gene for CCR5 which codes for a protein on the outside of the immune cells that HIV sticks to so it can enter and replicate and kill them which eventually leads to aids, actually like 10% of people descended from Europeans have this mutation, the further north you go the more common it gets if I remember correctly. It supposedly got passed on by the people who survived the bubonic plague and became more prevalent since people who didnt have that allele died off.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCR5#CCR5-.CE.9432

  27. What this article was about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This article described under what conditions do attenuated parasites provide protection. Basically the researchers allowed mosquitoes to feed on malaria infected blood. Then after a bit of time they irradiated the mosquitoes.

    The irradiated sporozoites, the malaria parasite stage that is injected by the mosquito into the human, is then genetically damaged and generally cannot cause infection. The people were given chloroquine as a safety precaution and to prevent the blood stage from forming. This way the researchers could restrict the subjects immune response to only be from the sporozoites and not from the blood stage of the malaria parasite.

    So the question is how many attenuated sporozoites does a person need to get exposed to in order to develop protection. In this case they think about 1000 insect bites/ exposures to attenuated sporozoites can lead to "complete protection".

    Protection in this case was when moquitoes with non-irradiated sporozoites did not cause infection. Control subjects were people who just had mosquitoes without malaria parasites feed on them were not protected.

      This has been done before but on apes not on humans.

      The message of the paper is more of a proof of concept. Is there justification for making genetically modified parasites which just produce sporozoites, then can these attenuated sporozoites, as whole organisms, be used as a vaccine. Such development is currently underway in Seattle and is about to go into clinical trials.

    Over all people have been trying to make malaria vaccines for 50+ years. non have proven to have any efficacy. Perhaps this is a new method for reducing malaria burdens.

      They are still pretty far from production though...it's really hard to grow and isolate sporozoites from mosquitoes in any type of bulk process to make enough vaccine to be useful

    1. Re:What this article was about by Weedhopper · · Score: 1

      The Nijmegan group is a different group from Sanaria, which is a US based organization. The former is what this article was about, the latter is irradiating anopheles.

  28. !!vaccine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I can't believe how many people deny that this is a vaccine. Administering an infectious agent to develop immunity while preventing or mitigating the actual infection (by the vaccine) is exactly how a vaccine is defined. This is a prophylactic active vaccine. It doesn't matter by what means the mitigating effect is achieved. In the original cowpox vaccine, it was achieved by not using cowpox itself, but the related smallpox which is much less dangerous but similar enough to trigger the same immune response and thus convey immunity to cowpox as well. In other cases, dead or weakened infectious agents are used for the vaccine. The only difference here (apart from using an animal vector instead of a syringe) is that the weakening of the infectious agent occurs only after injecting it, by the cloroquine that is being administered.

  29. terrible idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Repeated exposure to artemisinin and chloroquine has been shown to INCREASE malaria's resistance to these drugs. If put into some sort of large scale, these would only further the problem of resistance. Malaria is a very, very tricky parasite. A lot of drugs that have been developed for Malaria have had spots pop up (or complete resistance) show up in many parts of the world in the SAME year as the drug being released. It is no wonder that Malaria is one of the deadliest neglected tropical diseases.

    Source: I work in a malaria research lab.

    1. Re:terrible idea by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1

      Please listen to this poster. Or perhaps read the article yourself.

      There is NO vaccine which is delivered via mosquitoes. The researchers were testing the effectiveness of chloroquine in conjunction with moderate exposure to the malaria parasite in an attempt to boost immunity in the host.

      The bottom line is that you still need to take a drug on a regular basis, and that drug isn't perfect.

      Little has changed since the days of tonic water. Sorry.

      -FL

  30. So the mosquito... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...vaccinates them against malaria but hooks them up with sickle cell anemia?

  31. Two better articles: Nature and ScienceDaily by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 4, Informative

    Slashdot editors don't like their work, apparently.

    These are better articles:

    Mosquitoes against malaria?. Quote: 'In what AP describe as a "daring experiment" with "astounding" results, researchers found that ten people subjected to mosquito bites three times over three months whilst taking the drug chloroquine gained apparent immunity against malarial mosquito bites a month later.'

    Effective Vaccine For Malaria Possible, Study Shows. Quote: "This unique method of immunization allowed the human immune system to direct its response to eliminating the P. falciparum parasite at the earlier, liver stage of its life cycle. (Chloroquine kills the parasite at the later blood stage.)"

    1. Re:Two better articles: Nature and ScienceDaily by TheLink · · Score: 1

      Heh I like this part: "Also, the remarkable experiment studies infection in humans, using real parasites and real mosquitoes yet in a controlled and safe clinical trial setting"

      The control group don't get anything though, so I wonder what they did to keep it safe.

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  32. You are factually wrong by Weedhopper · · Score: 1

    This process induces immunity. Thus, it is a vaccine. By strict or loose definition.

  33. control group? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do we reeaaaly need a control group of un-immunized volunteers?
    Do we still need to establish malaria is transfered from mosquito to human.
    Are we attempting to show that the cure did not in fact come from the local water supply?

  34. Re:Next up, new AIDS vaccine is delivered by sluts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  35. The More Promising Trial... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...briefly mentioned in TFA actually gives 100% immunity in mice and is about to start human trials.

    A lot of human misery is going to go away when we get this working. And a lot of Africans and Asians are going to see huge boosts to their economies when workers are not having to take 1-2 weeks off work each year to either recover from malaria or help a family member do so.

  36. Inconsistent Logic by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

    If malaria isn't a potential death sentence then how will curing it save people? The fact that curing it would save millions of lives indicates exactly how dangerous it is.

    You are also asking the wrong question. The question really is: would you risk your life on the slim chance that it might save others knowing that, should the treatment not work, you risked it for very little indeed?

    1. Re:Inconsistent Logic by Sobrique · · Score: 1

      Not really. Malaria is treatable. If you treat it, you're not in any danger really.
      Places where malaria is common, however, often don't have good treatment, therefore millions of people die.

    2. Re:Inconsistent Logic by dr2chase · · Score: 1

      What the other replier (Sobrique) said, plus, the strain of malaria chosen was known-treatable.

      The more surprising disease is cholera -- a world-wide killer, yet (as I understand it) if you have a sufficient supply of electrolyte (Gatorade, more or less), you can survive it. Not fancy drugs -- gatorade.

      A friend of mine once remarked that there's a fair number of hospitals and clinics in Africa that cannot afford bleach for sterilizing equipment, and obviously, this leads to infection and deaths.

    3. Re:Inconsistent Logic by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

      Not really. Malaria is treatable.

      It is treatable but not cureable. You are stuck with it for the rest of your life and it can cause complications later if it flares up when you are older and already fighting off another disease.

  37. This is possible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The patients were innoculated with an attenuated (weakened) strain of the virus. This is different to a vaccination, which does not use a live virus..

    This is exciting, because there are already industrial processes for releasing millions of modified mosquitos into the wild.

    http://www.oxitec.com/sterile-insect-technique.htm

  38. Better housing/living conditions instead? by andkaha · · Score: 1

    I might be wrong, but I believe that the spread of malaria is largely due to badly constructed houses into which the fly is able to enter through cracks during night. If the money went into establishing better living conditions in the affected areas, the threat of malaria in those areas would be lesser, as well as having obvious additional benefits for the people living there.

    Just my 2p.

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    It's 11pm, do you know what your deamons are up to?
  39. Cool by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

    This is so true to the word science, not only can we change the hiv virus to now attack cancer cells, we can genetically change mosquitos to give us our vaccines against all diseases, including one that they would be responsible for giving to us in the first place.
    I say create the super bugs, and fill them with all those good strands of cures for all the worst out there, and then they can feast on our living flesh as we all laugh knowing we are getting vaccinated instead of some random disease.

  40. Half measures... by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    Why not deliver all medicine this way? They are basically tiny flying needles after all!

  41. fool me once... by drew30319 · · Score: 1

    This is an obvious campaign from the pro-mosquito lobby.

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  42. DDT by omb · · Score: 1

    The really interesting part of all this that the Central East African countries, North and South Rhodisa and Nyaserland had both the malaria and other insect born diseases effectively conquered by the mid 1950s. They used low dose DDT to kill and prevent the emergence of water born lavae eg mosquitos on the great lakes and other waterways. Then the environment lobby got into the act, and now these countries are back in the stone age, need constant aid, much of which ends up under Bahnhofstrasse, in Zuerich

    Meanwhile, the use of high dose DDT, in Kansas et al, was the source of the environmental problem, which lead to the wordwide banning, of DDT, and BTW any other insecticides that actually work. So, as a result of mis-use in the USA, we now need to swat houseflies here in Europe and rampant Malaria, Nile Fever and Tuberculosis is back in the Middle-East, and Africa, and with the modern world, will be with us soon eg H1N1.

    In addition, we now have vocal, and well funded NGOs, with a vested interest in keeping the third world poor, but pacified. If they, and CNN, with all its hippocracy kept out of places like Uganda and Somalia the populace would quickly rise up and kill their dictators like they used to do.

    Sorry, insects and politicians that cause death, ignorance and disease need killing, not paying. Honduras is the classic example of armchair liberals, in the first world, making problems out vanity, ego and stupidity.

    1. Re:DDT by falconwolf · · Score: 1

      The really interesting part of all this that the Central East African countries, North and South Rhodisa and Nyaserland had both the malaria and other insect born diseases effectively conquered by the mid 1950s.

      And what effect does DDT and other pesticides have on wildlife? If mosquitoes are wiped out then the food for other species is wiped out as well. Such as bats, birds, dragonflies, and frogs.

      In addition, we now have vocal, and well funded NGOs, with a vested interest in keeping the third world poor, but pacified.

      You can apply that to big business as well. Such as Big Oil. A sovereign nation is invaded for it's oil. The EU, Japan, and US all give billions of dollars in taxpayer subsidies so large agribusinesses can export food to the third world and sell it there cheaper than farmers there can grow it. Check out the suicide of farmers in not just India but the US as well. Large businesses like Archer Daniels Midland,ADM, and Cargill get money from government while third world and small farmers in the US, who can't compeat against those large businesses, struggle financially if not goes bankrupt. The freemarket institute CATO has a Case Study In Corporate Welfare about ADM who has been called the biggest corporate welfare queen in history.

      Sorry, insects and politicians that cause death, ignorance and disease need killing, not paying.

      As entomologists have said if all those insects are wiped out you'd be dead soon, you'd have no food to eat.

      Honduras is the classic example of armchair liberals, in the first world, making problems out vanity, ego and stupidity.

      How so? Liberals, not the fake ones but Classical Liberals believe in liberty and small government. And it wasn't either them or the fake ones that massacred the Mayas in not just Honduras but Central America itself. Neither one supported the US Army's School of America, which taught Central and South American militaries how to subjugate and torture people.

  43. This is better by neveaire · · Score: 1

    That's cool, but
    this is cooler. This guy is engineering mosquitoes that cannot transmit malaria. Because these mosquitoes have a higher fitness than their wild type counterparts, they essentially outcompete malaria transmitting mosquitoes. Maybe it's a little technical, but still very cool.

  44. Best article of all by nbauman · · Score: 1
    Why not just read the original article? It's free online http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/361/5/468

    Also a good editorial: http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/361/5/522

    The big problem is that they finally got a good, cheap, effective, safe drug, artemisin, against the Plasmodium falciparum parasite, but it's becoming resistant.

    The reason it's becoming resistant is that people in Pailin, Cambodia were using artemisin alone. If they use it alone, the P. falciparum can develop resistance to it. They're supposed to use it with another drug, like mefloquine, to kill off the parasite with shock and awe, but in some parts of the world they just use artemisin. From Cambodia, it's spreading to the rest of the world. http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/361/5/455 And it's all Pailin's fault.

    They can zap mosquitoes with radiation and get parasites that don't reproduce and can be used as vaccines, but you had to get bitten by a lot of them to develop immunity that way.

    They also have a subunit vaccine in phase III trials, but it's only 65% effective.

    That was a pretty cool study design btw -- using chloroquine to arrest the development of P. falciparum while you develop immunity. (Immunity to to P. falciparum takes a while to develop.)

    Interesting thing they pointed out in an article that isn't free is that people in the malaria zone give their children aspirin to reduce the fever (most malaria deaths are children). But aspirin is an anti-platelet agent, and platelets stick to red blood cells to kill off the ones that are infected with the parasite. When the aspirin lowers the platelet activity, the parasite is more likely to survive inside the red blood cell.

  45. Vaccine? No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Malrone and the other drug I have not used are not vaccines. I have been to Africa and was forced under punishment of being fired to take one or the other. I think the drugs are almost worse than Malaria. They give you horrible nightmares and produce psychotic effects.

  46. cholesterol and mosquitoes by falconwolf · · Score: 1

    You may want to get your cholesterol checked. Apparently, mozzies are more attracted to people who process cholesterol efficiently and don't have a lot stacked up in their blood.

    Thanks, I hadn't heard of that before, so I googled and found out some interesting things. According to WebMD there are different things that make people mosquito magnets. One of them is carbon dioxide which TFA says larger people give off more of. Though I'm tall I was also skinny, the typical string bean. However it also says lactic acid, which builds up when exercising, also attracts them. Because I was active, maybe even hyperactive, I should have been attracting mosquitoes.

    Falcon