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Gardeners Told to Give Exhausted Bees an Energy Drink

In an effort to help Britain's declining bee population, the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds is urging gardeners to leave out a homemade energy drink for tired bees. The RSPB says that a mix of two tablespoons of sugar with a tablespoon of water makes a perfect bee-boosting drink. Val Osborne, head of wildlife inquiries at the RSPB, said, "Many people keep seeing bees on the ground and assume they are dead, but chances are they are having a rest. Much like us, a sugary drink could boost their energy levels and a simple sugar and water combination will be a welcome treat."

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  1. Short Sighted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The bees will have trouble sleeping at night and by the end of the week they will be in a barely conscious stupor.

    Trust me.

    1. Re:Short Sighted by PopeAlien · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ..And just how much does the society for the protection of birds know about bees anyways? One theory for colony collapse disorder is malnutrition resulting from beekeepers feeding bees nothing but high fructose corn syrup over the winter. I know when I eat nothing but high fructose corn syrup I don't feel so hot.

  2. Redbull... by AmigaHeretic · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe they need an extra set of wings?

    1. Re:Redbull... by samurphy21 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm pretty sure that mammalian biochemistry doesn't apply equally to bees.

      Bees live off a diet of simple syrups in the form of nectar. This is just a more concentrated form. You don't crash if you have a continuous supply of sugar.

  3. Look, I know a dead bee when I see one by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is an ex-bee!

    1. Re:Look, I know a dead bee when I see one by xaxa · · Score: 3, Informative
  4. Re: Redbull by Mendoksou · · Score: 3, Funny

    I've always kind of wanted to see bees sucking on some Bawls, does that make me abnormal?

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  5. Fix one thing, break another... by d474 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That, and you'll end up with an army of ants swarming the sugary concoction. Pretty much all insects will find it tasty.

    This is obviously a plot by the Society of Birds to make more food for their feathered friends.

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    1. Re:Fix one thing, break another... by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That, and you'll end up with an army of ants swarming the sugary concoction. Pretty much all insects will find it tasty.

      A simple trick from hummingbird feeders is to have a cup of water the ants would have to swim through to get to the nectar, likea so. Ants can't swim, so they can't get to it. Okay, some species can form ant-bridges to cross water. Hopefully those kind aren't around where you're keeping your bees. :)

      This is obviously a plot by the Society of Birds to make more food for their feathered friends.

      Maybe! Certainly hummingbirds will like the sugar water as much as bees do.

      Here's another trick that would probably work if you are only interested in attracting bees to your feeder: Paint it yellow. Hummingbirds are attracted to the color red, not so much to yellow. That's why hummingbird feeders are red. Some though have yellow "flowers", and I've learned that you should avoid those if you don't want bees and wasps on your feeder because they like yellow. Flip that around, and you have a feeder that should attract bees (and wasps) but not hummingbirds.

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    2. Re:Fix one thing, break another... by rve · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe! Certainly hummingbirds will like the sugar water as much as bees do.

      Not a problem in Britain

      Here's another trick that would probably work if you are only interested in attracting bees to your feeder: Paint it yellow. Hummingbirds are attracted to the color red, not so much to yellow.

      But yellow may attract a flock of song chavs or a legless tree asbo.

    3. Re:Fix one thing, break another... by Chris+Burke · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well that's why you feed them, so they don't get too exhausted to move. :P

      What are you planning to do, otherwise? Physically pick up the immobile bees and place them close enough to the nectar to eat but not so close they drown?

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    4. Re:Fix one thing, break another... by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Funny

      But yellow may attract a flock of song chavs or a legless tree asbo.

      True! But on the other hand, it'll be safe from the Green Lantern.

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  6. Diabetic and Obese by riboch · · Score: 4, Funny

    Next thing you know we will be complaining about a diabetic and obese bee population.

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  7. Nice picture by us7892 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Such a beautiful picture of a bee and a dandilion...and on slashdot. Awwww.

    1. Re:Nice picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Such a beautiful picture of a bee and a dandilion...and on slashdot. Awwww.

      Nice picture hell, get a load of the bollox on that bee!

    2. Re:Nice picture by Reziac · · Score: 2, Informative

      Then I noticed the filename and imemdiately thought, "That's no bee, it's Thumbelina!!"

      There's a wild beehive somewhere on my place (never have found it, tho it might be high up in one of the old hollow trees) and being we're in the desert, a lot of the year they clearly do not get enough to eat (lots of them being small or weak). But they've completely ignored the sugar water I've put out for them. [I used to work for a beekeeper, so I knew to do this.]

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  8. Those aren't honey bees, they're yellow jackets by swb · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yellow jackets are protein eaters (other bugs, roadkill). They don't make honey. In the late summer / early fall they lose their normal food sources and they start going after carbohydrates -- sugary soda and pretty much anything on the picnic table.

    They're also super aggressive at that time of year and can sting repeatedly. Which is why I hang a yellow jacket trap to kill as many as possible. 10 in the last day!

  9. nothing new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    my Unlce used to keep bees, before he became allergic to them. leaving sugar water was always SOP. especially during those times of years when flowering was low.

    i really dislike this bee paranoia. first honey bees are NOT native to North America, although the article is from the UK. in fact Naive Americans called them the "white man's fly". Bees are not the sole pollinators of everything either. the major crops grown in my home state don't rely on pollinators. corn and wheat are not pollinated by bees, nor are numerous other species. many crops are grown and produced from cloning/cutting and still many plants use other insects as pollinators. look at the many species of figs that often are associated with just one species of wasp.

    1. Re:nothing new by Misanthrope · · Score: 2, Informative
  10. Colony Collapse Disorder by BigHungryJoe · · Score: 3, Informative

    Is Britain having the same problem the US is with CCD?

      I talked to a guy that sells honey at the local farmer's market, and this past year was the first time in 15 years that he actually had to purchase more bees because he'd lost over 90% of his hives to CCD.

    Anyhow, the symptoms described in the article sort of sounded like CCD, although I've never seen it, just had it described to me.

     

    1. Re:Colony Collapse Disorder by mc1138 · · Score: 4, Informative

      They are, while not quite as conclusive, there has been a decline in populations, and resources are being applied to monitor the situation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_collapse_disorder#UK_Bee_database

    2. Re:Colony Collapse Disorder by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 5, Informative

      A cure for "Colony Collapse Disorder" has recently been announced. It turns out (after an exhaustive study, in more ways that one), that there were a combination of microorganisms causing the problem. And it takes a mix of antibiotics to cure it, but it does work. The recovery has been pretty dramatic.

    3. Re:Colony Collapse Disorder by gplus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Tell him to stop stealing honey from the poor bees. They say that honey contains lots of stuff that's good for people's health. Well it's perfect for bee's health! They have depended on it for millions of years. I don't understand how beekeepers can think they can replace it with a sterile sugar/water mixture, without seriously compromising the health and constitution of the hive.

      In short: The beekeepers are, at the very least, part of the CCD problem. Not just victims.

    4. Re:Colony Collapse Disorder by oatworm · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes! Stop stealing the product of the labor of the exploited worker bee, you bourgeoisie capitalist scum sucking pig! Six legs good, two legs bad! Viva la abeja revolucion! Power to the beeple!

    5. Re:Colony Collapse Disorder by LateArthurDent · · Score: 2, Informative

      any links to that story?

      It was actually on Slashdot a while back. I remember having seen it.

  11. What could possible go wrong? by mcmonkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My only question would be how this affects their ability to collect pollen and make honey back at the hive. If it allows them to pollinate more flowers, then hell, I'm all for it.

    Except if the source of that sweet, sweet sugar is more convenient to the hive than the flowers (and it would have to be, if it is intended to help the bees get to the flowers) then why go to the flowers?

    It's like saying, I'm hungry but the McDonalds is too far away. So I'll stop at the Burger Kind on the way. Only after stopping at Burger King, there's no need to go to McDonalds.

    I'm guessing if such assistance to the bees becomes widespread, fewer flowers will be pollinated.

    1. Re:What could possible go wrong? by maxume · · Score: 2, Funny

      Do you have any other guesses to share?

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    2. Re:What could possible go wrong? by phayes · · Score: 2, Informative

      Either crawl out of your mother's basement or learn to use the internet/wikipedia in order to avoid embarrasing yourself in public.

      There are just so many ways that you are wrong.

      Bees cannot live on nectar alone & need a source of protein. The initial food of all larval bees (other than vulture bees) is a mixture of pollen & honey without which the larvae would die. This is the reason they have evolved special hairs on their legs in order to better collect & retain pollen.

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  12. Weird. by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    Many people keep seeing bees on the ground and assume they are dead, but chances are they are having a rest

    I don't see them on the ground but they seem to collect in my lawn mower's grass catcher.

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  13. And So Began... by GeneralEmergency · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...the great UK honey bee diabetes epidemic of 2010.
     

    I really hate being right in advance all the time.

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  14. Brawndo by Propaganda13 · · Score: 4, Funny

    But Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes. I'm sure bees crave it too.

    1. Re:Brawndo by TTURabble · · Score: 2, Funny

      Do you even know what electrolytes are?

      ...its what bees crave!

    2. Re:Brawndo by Ifni · · Score: 2, Funny

      Forgive me, El Guapo. I know that I, Jefe, do not have your superior intellect and education. But could it be that once again, you are angry at something else, and are looking to take it out on me?

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  15. Re:better idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Better idea - Genetically modified superbees.

    Prob Sol

  16. Everyone will think this is great... by uxbn_kuribo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Until we start wondering why our honey is giving us a crazed, caffeine-infused high. Remember, honey is basically bee vomit. Also, if Red Bull gives you wings, what does it give bees?

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    1. Re:Everyone will think this is great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Erections

  17. Sugar Water - Common Knowledge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Anyone who knows anything about bees, already knows about sugar water... it's a common Bee Keeping practice... at least in the States it is.

  18. Disinfect your feeding containers by Guppy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just like with Hummingbird feeders, if you do this I recommend dis-infecting your container periodically by boiling (or use disposable containers).

    Otherwise, you eventually have microbial contamination problems which could be dangerous to the bees you're trying to help. Growth of yeasts, bacteria, and other organisms should not be assumed to be necessarily visible to the naked eye, either.

  19. Open sugar water by Manfre · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There will be a lot more insects finding their way to the sugar water. Most likely ants will find the sugar and swarm on it first.

    I keep bees and have to feed them sugar water when weather doesn't cooperate with their collection of pollen and nectar. The only thing that keeps ants away from the sugar water I feed to a hive are the hundreds of guard bees. They bite at the ants and chase them away.

    1. Re:Open sugar water by Reziac · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Wouldn't putting the sugar water in a hanging basket help?

      I use a painting of motor oil to keep ants out of my dog food bins, just a swath around the bottom of the bin. Soap also works but motor oil lasts a lot longer.

      Any idea why starving bees would reject sugar water? Here in the desert, during the dry season there's often NOTHING for them to collect. My local wild beehive (nice gentle bees so I'd like to keep them healthy!) follows me around for water, and they arrive in clouds when I start spraying down stuff, but when I put out sugar water they ignore it, even tho they are often clearly starving. (They look poor and weak.)

      I used to work for a beekeeper, tho mainly in the honey house. If most folks could see honey at that stage, they'd never eat it. :)

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    2. Re:Open sugar water by TheHawke · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't let it stand out in the sun too long or it'll ferment. Last thing you need is a bunch of drunk bees and a crashed hive.

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    3. Re:Open sugar water by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 4, Funny

      Everybody here is missing the point. Let me tell you something about bees.

      Bees have "scouts" that go out looking for nectar. When they encounter a good patch of flowers, they fly back to the hive, and they do a "dance" that communicates to the other bees the direction AND the distance to this patch of nectar. Other worker bees then "fuel up" with just enough honey to fly the indicated distance. (I know that it seems unlikely that bees are capable of such organization, but this much has been known for decades.)

      On rare occasions, the "directions" can be wrong, or some other problem happens, and a bee does not find the correct patch of flowers. In such cases, the bee can become "exhausted" (it has used up its store of honey). An exhausted bee cannot fly! As mentioned by OP, in fact, people often mistake them for dead. So ANYTHING hanging is not going to do these bees any good.

      After having read about this as a child, I tried it on a bee that I found outside and originally took for dead. But then it did move a little. I gave it a sugar+water solution to drink, and a couple of minutes later it flew off. I have repeated this experiment many times, and it has not failed me yet. Except when the bee was actually dead.

  20. Bee Pollen by goombah99 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    uh... isn't bee Pollen one of those things they put in the energy pills they sell at the gas-n-go mini marts? Maybe they should add some pollen to that sugar water.

    also isn't giving Bee's sugar going to prevent them from bothering with the flowers they are supposed to be pollinating? after all they visit flowers for sugar not pollen. The pollen is just symbiotic side-efffect.

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    1. Re:Bee Pollen by Fluffeh · · Score: 2, Informative

      isn't bee Pollen one of those things

      No, it's not one of those things. Bees don't make pollen. Plants do.

      The stuff they sell at pharmacies is royal jelly which is in fact made by bees, secreted from a gland in worker bees heads. While commonly a myth that only the queen gets to eat this stuff, it's generally used to feed just about all the larvae, but if a queen is needed, they gorge the larvae on the stuff for the first four days which gives the bee enough of an energy kick to kick-start the development of ovaries which are (obviously) needed by the queen.

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  21. Welcome! by NonUniqueNickname · · Score: 2, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords with a refreshing sugary drink!

  22. Traps are great by flaming+error · · Score: 5, Funny

    .. but if you prefer something more aggressive than passive, you can't beat tennis racket bug zappers. Keeps the kids off the xbox for hours.

    1. Re:Traps are great by i.r.id10t · · Score: 2, Interesting

      22 rifle loaded with the "snake shot" or "rat shot" pellets. Whole bunch of little tiny shot, good for 10 yards or so at most before the pattern opens too much.

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    2. Re:Traps are great by TheLink · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You might end up breeding faster and more agile yellow jackets.

      We use those zappers a lot to kill mosquitoes in my house.

      The trouble is, after some years of that, the current generation of mosquitoes now seem to be smaller and faster. They even bite faster - they can land, draw blood and fly away to escape in a short time.

      Worse is, when I'm drifting off to sleep with the zapper nearby, the mosquitoes seem to stay away when I'm alert and waiting, but just when I am about to doze off - one or two start to attack. So I "wake" and try to swat them. I might get a few. But after that if I lie down, wait and stay alert (eyes closed) they still seem to not approach till I start to doze off again. I think future generations of mosquitoes in my area would be the ones that tend to attack when I'm asleep.

      The "doze detection" might just be my imagination, but the "small and fast" is definitely true (in other places the mosquitoes are so slow - and "fluffy" that I can even slowly prod them in the air with my finger and they don't zoom off).

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    3. Re:Traps are great by Alaska+Jack · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't know about your situation, but I can tell you here in Alaska there are without question two different types of mosquitos. The ones that come out first in the spring are big, slow and dumb. As the summer wears on these are replaced by mosquitos that are clearly smaller, faster and much more aggressive and cagey.

      It's not a one-time thing, but rather happens like this every year.

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  23. I hate bees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I will start feeling benevolent towards these insects once laws are enacted that disallow the posession of both wings and a stinger.

    It should be illegal to have both. FOR GOD'S SAKE PICK ONE!!!

    1. Re:I hate bees by 32771 · · Score: 2, Funny

      You are one pathetic city dweller.

      I demand second amendment rights for bees!

      Also, don't forget that bees are on a suicide mission if they sting you. It really is your fault if you piss them off that much, and they are not some crazy religious humans. Wasps and hornets on the other hand are in a far more western position.

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  24. Even better idea by geekoid · · Score: 3, Informative

    you actually learn what the hell you are talking about.

    A) If we stopped using pesticide, 1/3 of the human population will die from starvation.

    B) 'Pesticides' are not bad. They are a good thing when properly used. Most, if not all, modern pesticides have a very short half life

    C) At this pojnt it looks like its two things causing this, a parasite, and a fungus. Not all the data is in, but it is strong

    D) There are no issues with genetically created crops. That is panic based on ignorance and an ideology.

    E) AS I mentioned befroe, it is really starting to lok like a double whamy of a parasite and a fungus. Something Humans can help cure.

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    1. Re:Even better idea by mdalal97 · · Score: 3, Informative

      D) Actually, there are, but it has less to do with eating it and more to do w/ the terms of use imposed by companies like Monsanto/ADM. Primary, you can't use any of the seed from your own field to plant in the following year. You always have to buy the seeds again. Then say you are a farmer who has a field next to another farmer who uses genetically modified crops that, somehow, cross pollinate with your crops. If Monsanto tests your crops and finds their genetic markers, you are screwed. I won't even go into the problems with our monoculture of food production.

    2. Re:Even better idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's hilarious- you seem to be fine with the idea of two billion people starving to death, an event which would produce the greatest period of suffering in human history, and yet it's Monsanto who are "an immoral set of creeps."

    3. Re:Even better idea by mwbeatty · · Score: 2, Informative
      Don't see how my comment deserves to be modded as 'troll' but anyway, I would really like to see the sources for the statements in your comment. The only people I've seen claim that pesticide use prevents starvation are the pesticide manufacturers. And as for genetically modified crops, this from another website

      According to the French Professor Gilles-Eric Seralini, a molecular endocrinologist and a member of two French government commissions evaluating GM food, the corn variety in question, called MON 810, has shown statistically significant problems in animal studies.

      They found the effects of the GM crops were similar to that of pesticides, causing inflammation disorders, and problems with livers and kidneys, two major organs involved with detoxification.

      This website provides a lot of information about genetically modified food and unlike your post, actually provides sources for its facts.

  25. Aren't they Worried... by Greyfox · · Score: 3, Funny

    About Diabeeeedes?

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  26. Bees need good nutrition, too.... by PeterM+from+Berkeley · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hello,

        I've been reading that one of the reasons US bees may be having trouble is a poor diet. Bees need other nutrients in their diet than pure sugar. They get it from pollen and genuine plant nectar. Sugar water doesn't contain these.

        A lot of US bees, instead of having a variety of foods available as would be in a wild environment, have just one type of flower to feed upon, like apples, and maybe some corn-syrup-water. Inadequate nutrition results, and CCD is an effect (so the theory goes).

        How about we give bees sugar + complete bee nutrient solution?

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  27. Re:Try BRAWNDO! by saladpuncher · · Score: 2, Funny

    BRAWNDO!! It's got what BEES CRAVE! It's like DRIVING a MONSTER TRUCK into a field of pollen! BRAWNDO!!

  28. Caffeinated Hive Building? by SevenHands · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'd be curious what result giving bees caffeinated beverages would have on hive construction. Judging from what the stimulant does to spiders, it'd definitely be an interesting experiment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Caffeinated_spiderwebs.jpg

    I'd also wonder if it'd give new meaning to the phrase "making a bee line" for something.

  29. Re:Ignorance? by scribblej · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, they're hard to mistake for each other, and if you read the article, honeybees only get a tiny mention. They're one of three species that are in the article. The other two are bumblebees. The only expert quoted is a bumblebee expert. RTFA.

    And as I stated, bumblebees live IN THE GROUND. So seeing them on the ground is normal.