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Facial Expressions Are "Not Global"

An anonymous reader sends in a BBC report on new research out of Glasgow University, which detected differences in how facial expressions are read between Westerners and East Asians. Using eye tracking, the researchers determined that "people from different cultural groups observe different parts of the face when interpreting expression. East Asians participants tended to focus on the eyes of the other person, while Western subjects took in the whole face, including the eyes and the mouth." Interestingly, the researchers point out that the emoticons used online by the two groups reflect this difference.

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  1. Took a PHD to figure this out? by Farlan · · Score: 2

    Anyone in the MMORPG world could've summarized this!

    1. Re:Took a PHD to figure this out? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe, but anecdotal summaries aren't acceptable as evidence in scientific circles.

      Besides, the article is a paper published in Current Biology, not a PhD thesis.

  2. In other news..... by nomso · · Score: 3, Interesting

    people are indeed different.

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    1. Re:In other news..... by gmuslera · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In this case isn't probably about people, but about culture, don't think there is a genetic difference there. And yes, cultures are still indeed different. You need a lot of years of globalization to uniformize that behavior.

  3. Interesting by sakdoctor · · Score: 4, Funny

    ^_^

    1. Re:Interesting by Canazza · · Score: 4, Funny

      Cross Culture: (.)(.)

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    2. Re:Interesting by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ^_^

      The interesting thing is, even though that's not a common emoticon in the west, it is pretty readily identifiable as a "happy" icon. I wonder if easterners also have automatic recognition of :-) ?

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    3. Re:Interesting by gardyloo · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why are those eyes downcast?

    4. Re:Interesting by Altus · · Score: 4, Funny

      Gravity

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  4. Similar Article (Metro) by mancunian_nick · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In today's Metro, there's an interesting article on this same subject. When we use emoticons such as ;-), people on the other side of the world shrug their shoulders. That's because Westerners read faces differently to Eastern people experts claim. It goes on later - Whereas we tend to use the mouth to express emotions such as :-) for happy and :-( for sad, Eastern emoticons use the eyes ^.^ for happy and ;.; for sad. The findings could mean concepts of 'universal expression' of emotions are wrong - and do not take into account cultural boundaries, the experts said. Interesting but again who are these so-called experts. According to the article, only 13 Europeans and 13 people from China, Japan and Korea were asked to put a series of faces into categories such as sad and surprised. Hardly a global representation I'd have thought but then again statistics, statistics and statistics, as the saying goes. I'm sure even Mr Spock would have thought this was 'fascinating'. :)

    1. Re:Similar Article (Metro) by the_raptor · · Score: 3, Interesting

      As a psychology student I can already tell you that the idea of "universal expression" only lives on in pop culture, the idea was invalidated in science a fair while ago. While it is debatable whether emotions are natural or culturally generated it is complete uncontroversial to say that expression of emotion is culturally bound.

      Just look at something like Amok in Malaysia.

      Additionally there have been many studies that show a difference between how Westerners view faces and how non-Westerners do. This study is only interesting in that it puts forward an answer as to why the difference might exist. This is a major issue in psychology because so much research has used white male college students as subjects.

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    2. Re:Similar Article (Metro) by MindlessAutomata · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As a psychology student I can already tell you that the idea of "universal expression" only lives on in pop culture, the idea was invalidated in science a fair while ago. While it is debatable whether emotions are natural or culturally generated it is complete uncontroversial to say that expression of emotion is culturally bound.

      I have not personally heard this, and everything I've heard contradicts that. What is this?

      Finally, the study in the article establishes that faces are READ differently, not that people are making different facial expressions. This is a big difference from the headline being given, but that's science reporting for you.

      Facial expressions are, for the most part, universal; from what I see Ekman's studies have for the most part still held up. What are you basing your claim that the idea of universal facial expressions has been "invalidated by science a fair while ago?"

  5. I don't buy it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In order to convince me, they'd have to find that East Asians form expressions with just their eyes that other East Asians can pick up more easily than Westerners. It makes no sense that East Asians can't read each other's facial expressions.

  6. This is not news... by geminidomino · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The exact thing has been written in many of the "manga" technique books or books comparing eastern and western comics I've read.

  7. Misleading title by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The title of the summary says that facial expressions are not global, but the summary says that the way people read facial expressions varies in different geographical areas. A more interesting test would be how accurate people from East Asia are at reading the facial expressions of Westerners and vice versa.

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  8. A difference, you say? by Wireless+Joe · · Score: 5, Funny

    At first I was (:^O)

    but then I \(^o^)/

    1. Re:A difference, you say? by Bemopolis · · Score: 2, Funny

      You used to be a snowman, but now you're a clown?

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  9. Tracking and expression aren't the same thing by wytcld · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is about differences in how cultures track expressions, not in the expressions themselves. There's long been solid evidence that basic facial expressions are universal across human cultures, in their natural form. So if you're really smiling, it's the same muscles involved in much the same way, no matter what culture you're in. However, people also pretend to smile when it's not real. It's long been know that counterfeit expressions don't use all the same muscles, or the same overall pattern. People can be trained to spot this difference quite effectively.

    Now, with this recent research showing that different cultures monitor expressions differently, this implies that good counterfeiting is going to be specific to which monitoring patterns it is trying to fool. That would be interesting research. It should show, for instance, that people are better at counterfeiting expressions to other people from their same culture. People from another culture should be better at seeing through your counterfeit expressions than people from your own culture, if that other culture focuses on different parts of the face than yours.

    That cultures would focus differently fits with the extensive research on "joint attention." From infancy, we're wired to look at what we see other people looking at. We're very, very good a adopting the perceptual patterns of those around us, at a level that's almost automatic.

    But contra the broad claim here, genuine emotions expressed through facial expressions are not culture-specific, but universal to humanity, essentially genetic.

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    1. Re:Tracking and expression aren't the same thing by readin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It raises the question of whether the researches were using pictures of people who were genuinely angry, surprised, sad, etc., or pictures of people who were pretending to be those things. It also makes me wonder where were the people from who were pictured in the images.

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    2. Re:Tracking and expression aren't the same thing by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is about differences in how cultures track expressions, not in the expressions themselves. There's long been solid evidence that basic facial expressions are universal across human cultures, in their natural form.

      Yes, but it's not just tracking, it's usage of expressions as you allude to. Do not think that because a Japanese man is smiling at you that he is expressing happiness. He could just as easily be expressing anger or sadness. It's similar to the way the Japanese avoid saying "no." "Yes" in Japanese is "hai" (pronounced somewhat like "Hi" in english.) A short "hai" might not indicate agreement, but simply acknowledgement much like we use 'Okay." A medium "hai" will indicate agreement, but a long drawn-out "hai" in a low-tone almost certainly means "no." This is somewhat (but not totally) similar to the American usage of "yeeesssssss, but..." Alternatively, the Japanese may audibly suck air through their teeth. Anyway, smiling is a lot like that.

      (Note that I once spent several months working at a predominately Japanese company)

  10. ah, the inscrutable asian and the volatile gaijin by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Informative
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  11. Re:Is it that surprising ? by hardburn · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's interesting in that some expressions are universal due to a biological basis, but some are cultural. Previously, some anthropologists assumed they were all cultural, but this has been shown otherwise. See the work of Paul Ekman.

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  12. co-author site by mzs · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here is the site of one of the co-authors:

    http://www.psy.gla.ac.uk/staff/index.php?id=RJ002

    The article in question is not quite published yet:

    Jack, R. E., Blais, C., Scheepers, C., Schyns, P. G., & Caldara, R. (in press) Cultural Confusions Show Facial Expressions are Not Universal Current Biology

    Here is an earlier one using the same methodologies (PDF):

    http://www.psy.gla.ac.uk/docs/download.php?type=PUBLS&id=1404

    It is about where western and eastern people look at faces using eye tracking when for example learning or recognizing a face. There were some subtle differences.

  13. Happiness or Anger? by rxan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's interesting in that some expressions are universal due to a biological basis, but some are cultural.

    Quite true.

    Smiling with teeth for humans is a universal expression of happiness. Or at least near universal. But for most other mammals, showing teeth is a sign of aggression and anger.

  14. Bad examples... by denzacar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Comparing caricatures with realistic depiction of humans? Come on... That ain't even a proper straw-man.

    Try these instead:

    Japanse Spiderman manga vs. American Spiderman Comic.

    Note how lips, nostrils and ears are generally unarticulated (particularly noses and ears that often are not present at all, or are just hinted) and how much more detailed american (comic) faces are.
    On the other hand... manga artists attribute much greater attention to eyes and hair.

    You can tell the character by his/her eyes immediately.
    Bigger and more detailed the eyes - more innocent the character. Slits with a tiny dot for a pupil - evil fucker.

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  15. Anyone worked with Indians? by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They way they shake their heads when saying yes completely fucks with my mind every time!

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  16. Definitions by readin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The article did not address the questions of definitions. Do we define words like "fear" and "surprise" the same way? Fear and surprise can be related - and where does shock fit in? Perhaps its not just a question of interpreting the emotions differently, but also an issue of applying different words to the same emotion. I see a shocked expression, but I have to assign it a value of "fear" or "surprise" - even if I have a perfect empathy for the emotion expressed in the picture, the word I choose will depend on how I've seen that word used in the past.

    Given that the test was given to people from different backgrounds, they likely grew up speaking different languages. Even though presumably the East Asian subjects may have learned English, their understandings of some English words may be based on translations of their native words, and the words may not be exact matches.

    One might suggest that this problem can be dodged by asking the subjects for a suggested physical response rather than for a word. Instead of "Is this person feeling 'fear' or 'surprise'" you might ask "Is this person thinking of running away or is this person thinking that he didn't expect what just happened" but even then cultural expectations about behavior would play a heavy role.

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  17. Anime Eyes by NealBScott · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So maybe there really *is* a reason that Japanese Anime is drawn with such large eyes.

  18. Re:Never use open sores software by dyingtolive · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't believe that for a second. No one has had a 'hankering' for at least 40 years.

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