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How To Build a 100,000-Port Ethernet Switch

BobB-nw writes "University of California at San Diego researchers Tuesday are presenting a paper (PDF) describing software that they say could make data center networks massively scalable. The researchers say their PortLand software will enable Layer 2 data center network fabrics scalable to 100,000 ports and beyond; they have a prototype running at the school's Department of Computer Science and Engineering's Jacobs School of Engineering. 'With PortLand, we came up with a set of algorithms and protocols that combine the best of layer 2 and layer 3 network fabrics,' said Amin Vahdat, a computer science professor at UC San Diego. 'Today, the largest data centers contain over 100,000 servers. Ideally, we would like to have the flexibility to run any application on any server while minimizing the amount of required network configuration and state... We are working toward a network that administrators can think of as one massive 100,000-port switch seamlessly serving over one million virtual endpoints.'"

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  1. Cable management... by BuR4N · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hope they have invented something better than ordinary Ethernet cables to wire that ting with.

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    1. Re:Cable management... by Fluffeh · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, it's wireless silly billy!

      Good god, that means it's as reliable as my sex life. Like with REAL people, rather than me just ummm... actually... no, that's fine. Nothing to see here, move along, move along.

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  2. Oh no... by acehole · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have nightmarish pictures popping into my head of a waterfall of ethernet cables spewing from this with user's ports un-numbered with no network diagrams. People bashing on the server room door in a zombie like state muttering "MRRRHH FACEBOOK!" "TWWIIIITEEEuggggghh" with me inside screeching "NO! NO! I DONT KNOW WHAT PORT YOUR DESK IS! NO! I CAN'T MAKE THINGS GO FASTER!" before curling up in a ball listening to the hum of servers and the lamentations of the users outside the door desperately scratching to get in.

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  3. You still need isolation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've long been of the opinion that putting more than a few hundred hosts on a single layer 2 network is almost always a bad idea.

    What do you do about broadcast storms? How do you prevent some clown from anywhere in that 100,000 machine cloud from poaching another machine's IP address (either maliciously or by an accidental typo)?

    Subnets and routers were invented for a reason. Just because you can bridge the whole world together into one massive virtual Ethernet segment doesn't mean you should.

    1. Re:You still need isolation by amorsen · · Score: 4, Informative

      What do you do about broadcast storms?

      In the paper they detail how they handle ARP. All other broadcasts you can get away with dropping these days; use multicast instead. (Yes, that will break NETBIOS broadcast name lookups. So sad.)

      How do you prevent some clown from anywhere in that 100,000 machine cloud from poaching another machine's IP address (either maliciously or by an accidental typo)?

      That is a solved problem if you use decent switches. You can apply pretty much any policy you like.

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  4. It's all about address management by Animats · · Score: 5, Informative

    The paper is about adding a layer of addressing so that IP and Ethernet addresses can be moved from one machine to another as instances of virtual machines are migrated around. It's not about the problems of physically building a very large switch. The switch components are mostly stock items.

  5. How big is that.....and when it fails... by the_macman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Have fun replacing it when it fails. In my head I imagine something like this.

    1. Re:How big is that.....and when it fails... by acehole · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...and every couple of months the mess of cables will have to be prodded with a broomstick to check for dead network engineers.

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  6. How many LEDs is that? How much power in LEDs? by hhedeshian · · Score: 5, Funny

    Lets see... That's 100,000 ports with 2 LEDs each (link, action/fdx/speed/poe) for a total of 200,000 LEDs. Lets say they use some of the cheapest SMD LEDs on the market. Well use digikey part number 160-1183-1-ND which is a cheap 0603 foot print green LED. At quantity 200,000 that comes out to $12,000 in cut-tape packaging or $9,450 if you buy 210,000 of them in 3,000-qty reels.

    Lets say that all of the link LEDs are on 100% of the time and the the activity LED is on 50% of the time. That gives us 150,000 LEDs on at any given point in time. Our example LEDs use 20ma at 2.1V. So 150,000 LEDs at 20ma uses 3Ka. In total, 6.1Kw is burned by the green LEDs.

    All that blinking... Damn. I want one NOW!!! More than a girl friend!

  7. You mean by countertrolling · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can't just go out and buy 33,334 d-links and turn off DHCP on all but one of them?

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    1. Re:You mean by Linker3000 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Their next project is a 33,334-outlet power strip capable of holding that many wall warts without either crashing through the floor or shearing off the faculty wall.

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  8. Rehashing of long-abandoned ideas by jeko · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Without getting too far into it, their brilliant plan to to insinuate a layer 2 and a half using "pseudo MAC addresses," using a directory service rather than broadcasts. They're hoping they can use this mess to paper over horrific network design.

    Yeah, I'll grant you you might be able to cobble this mess together in an academic setting, and sure, you'll even be able to rig some demos that show miraculous increases in speed.

    I can guarantee they'll find funding with their promise you'll even able to hire even LESS skilled network admins, meaning Zaboomafoo the Typing Lemur now has a shot at his CCIE.

    But, damn, you ignorant twits. Most corporate networks are already mashed together by the most cut-rate cable monkeys they can find. The last thing we need is some half-assed "protocol" that will guarantee even more network designs that are guaranteed to trip and break their necks over the first packet.

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    1. Re:Rehashing of long-abandoned ideas by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think you kinda missed his point that the Networks wouldn't be so hard to admin if the corps didn't try to save a buck by lowballing and ending up with topologies that looked like they were designed by drunken gibbons. Here, let me illustrate with a true story-

      So I'm working a nice little temp job, putting in a bunch of new boxes on this little insurance company when I break for lunch I run into one of my old friends at this little outdoor BBQ joint. When I tell him how easy my job is going he says "you gotta come back with me to this law firm I'm having to rebuild. You will NOT fucking believe it!" so intrigued I follow him back. On his desk are some machines, which he asked me "notice anything funny about them?" so I move the side panels so I can see and it instantly hits me that these are ALL homemade gamers rigs. He says "Yep, not a single fucking driver alike. Fun huh? And good luck with parts! But that ain't the worst part. Check this out" so he opens up the "network room" and there is literally a MOUND of Dlink and other cheap ass home routers piled up a good 4-6 feet high. I said "WTF is this?" To which he replied "This is what a dumbass who had been their "network admin" thought a network should look like. Not only is nothing labeled in this just giant fucking mess, but there are no less than SIX different ISP home plans running this shit. Fun huh?"

      So while I'm sure he made out like a bandit I wouldn't have taken that job on a bet. I would have had nightmare for months trying to deal with that clusterfuck. All because some bean counter hired the first schmuck that walked through the door that could halfway talk a good game and was willing to work for the peanuts they were offering. So yeah, a network set up by someone with a brain that knows about network topologies isn't really that hard to maintain or add nodes to. But instead you get some paper tiger that can bullshit HR and makes a truly gigantic clusterfuck out of the thing and then it takes 3 forevers to get it straightened out. I don't even want to picture what kind of giant messes can be cooked up with this tech if you can just throw anything together and get it to function thanks to this "virtual mac" idea. Because when the thing finally breaks down like my buddy you might be really scared to open up that "network" door.

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    2. Re:Rehashing of long-abandoned ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      You should try taking an MIS position at an engineering company. Every engineer secretly (or not so secretly) thinks that they can do a better job than the lowly MIS people. They bring in their own WAPs because they want a perfect WiFi signal in their cubicles. They stream music from the Internet, then complain when their file downloads are slow. They insist on having local Administrator rights to "their" computer, and then complain when it becomes infested with malware. One thought that bridging his WiFi and Ethernet adapters would give him faster Internet access. Another decided that he needed his own server, so he set one up and proceeded to offer DHCP on the network.

      And the programmers are the worst - every one of them thinks that being able to write software makes them qualified to administrate a nation-wide network, especially because they have a network at home, you see, and also do computer work for their friends and family.

  9. This seems to be a solution to a nonexistent probl by viking80 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This seems to be a solution to a nonexistent problem. A big router, for example a cisco CRS, can be a single node supporting any data center. And it is a router, so there is no need for any exotic solution (L3 inspection on a switch?). It has a max bandwidth of 80Tb/s or 80,000 Gb Ethernet nodes. The beauty is of course that you can configure your entire data center with a single router, which greatly simplifies the network configuration, and makes changes simple.

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  10. NATting layer two. by argent · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They're basically NATting the layer two protocols. Combined with a super spanning tree for the natted addresses they're practically boosting layer two into layer three.

    Before I read the paper I was thinking that it would be easier to just run all your services NATted at layer three, even using something like PPPoE (which is how cable networks solve the same basic problem, with something like half a million end-points on the same subnet). I guess it's more efficient to work with the simpler layer two protocols instead.

  11. Re:Watch out for loose cables! by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Funny

    I would seriously hate to be the guy that tripped over that power cable.

    A sentry gun will be installed in the power cable corridor, to execute you the precise moment you've done your tripping. So you wouldn't have time to hate being yourself.

    (redundant, redundant power. I know, I know)

    To answer your worried look: yes, there's a redundant sentry gun for the other cable too.

  12. Idiots - if they had used 10base2 ... by Viol8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... they have only needed 1 port! :)