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Nintendo Working On Football Controller

Siliconera found patent filings from Nintendo for a football controller addon that will work with the Wii. After tucking the Wii Remote into a lateral slot on the football, you slip your hand through a strap so that your fingers touch the Remote's buttons. Then you mimic running and throwing, which is interpreted by the accelerometer. 'The pitch angle and force of the throw determines the trajectory arc of the throw. Side to side motion determines the yaw angle. Pressing buttons on the Wii remote can adjust other options.' The device is described as 'squishy,' so your TV is probably safe, but I'd try it at a friend's house first.

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  1. More money... by El+Lobo · · Score: 0, Insightful
    Well, as a geek, I would say: COOL... but as a player, I would rather like that they would concentrate into making good games (the Wii DESPERATELY need them, a lot more) than keeping putting out more and more expensive gadgets.

    But hey, that's me, that's why I now own a 360 after having sold my wii. I'm sure as hell not their target, so what do I know.

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    1. Re:More money... by Lord+Byron+II · · Score: 1
      I've found that the combination of a PC and a Wii serves my gaming needs excellently. The Wii has an excellent set of casual games (Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Mario Kart, Super Smash Bros, etc) that I can pick up and play with my gf whenever we have a few minutes to kill. The PC is great for serious gaming. A keyboard and mouse are, IMO, the best input controllers ever and the graphics on a mid-range gaming PC beat those on a 360 or PS3. I also like the fact that my games are all $50 (and not $60) new at retail.

      Of course, everyone is different and I do miss out on a few 360 and PS3 exclusives, but nothing has come out for either system that has been that compelling for me.

      I think when people say the Wii has "no good games", they mean it doesn't have good games like GTA, CoD, WoW, and other TLAs. But it has a ton of quick and fun, easy to learn, easy to play games that are great to play with friends, coworkers, kids, gf's, non-gamers etc.

  2. MotionPlus by Kokuyo · · Score: 1

    I frankly don't see this working out too well without the MotionPlus' accuracy.

  3. As a european... by mikael_j · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a european my first thought was "that sounds really dangerous", then I read the whole summary and realized that they were talking about what some people like to refer to as a "handegg" and not an actual football.

    /Mikael

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    1. Re:As a european... by PCRanger · · Score: 2, Funny

      Agreed. I was excited when I read the title, but this is just the fake version of football! Pelting a real football or soccer ball as the Americans call it round the lounge would be much more fun.

    2. Re:As a european... by RogueyWon · · Score: 1

      As a Brit who could never stand soccerball or the country's obsession with it, I suspect, following events in London this week, that Nintendo's best bet for putting out a simulation of that on the Wii is basically to start developing it as a Madworld mod. Only it'd need to be more violent.

    3. Re:As a european... by should_be_linear · · Score: 1

      Yeah, thats the game, with guys dressed like Brüno with helmet.

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    4. Re:As a european... by mwvdlee · · Score: 0, Redundant

      My first thought was some sort of way to attach controlers to your feet/shoes/ankles. Didn't realize they were talking about american football instead of the type of football the rest of the world plays.

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    5. Re:As a european... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's soccerball? In the Uk we play football, you sure your British?

    6. Re:As a european... by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Yes, because it wasn't the British who coined the term "soccer" in the first place. Oh wait...yeah it was.

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    7. Re:As a european... by mlk · · Score: 1

      I thought it was an American in the UK that came up with "Soccer".
      My understanding of it all (as someone who only watches football for the post game riots) -
      Football - Generic term used many moons ago for 100s of different sets of rules.
      Soccer - 100s of rules make it difficult to make money from. So an American takes the most watchable set of rules and formalises them and names this Soccer.
      American Football - No idea. From what I've seen you only kick the ball a few times. I know as a Brit I should say something about the body armour but honestly I'd want it is I was in a field of large men wanting a little slap and tickle.
      That and a 1 mile head start.
      And a car.
      Really just not being involved in the hole experience to be honest.

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    8. Re:As a european... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keep in mind, O european one, just because its not a sport you recognize or understand, does it make it less a sport for anyone who does. In english for the small minded. American's call Football one thing and European Football Soccer.

    9. Re:As a european... by mikael_j · · Score: 1

      I think you got that backwards, Americans refer to american football as football and they refer to actual football as soccer.

      /Mikael

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  4. slip your hand? by Punto · · Score: 5, Funny

    someone needs to let them know you're not supposed to touch the football with your hands

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    1. Re:slip your hand? by xtracto · · Score: 1, Funny

      You people play that pussy sport SOCCER. You don't have big well protected men slamming into one another.

      WELL NOW, I'm a LOUD European..

      You people play that pussy sport AMERICAN-FOOTBALL. You must have very well protected men slamming into each other for short, paused time periods.

      Disclaimer: I am actually not an European, although I am trying to pass as one of them while living there.

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    2. Re:slip your hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always thought the term 'football' came from running on the ground, as in 'on foot', to distinguish it from things like polo.

    3. Re:slip your hand? by theapeman · · Score: 1

      A foot pound is a unit of energy, not force.

    4. Re:slip your hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No it isn't, it's a unit of torque, which is in turn, a force.

    5. Re:slip your hand? by Psyborgue · · Score: 1

      You people play that pussy sport SOCCER. You don't have big well protected men slamming into one another.

      LOL. Why is this flamebait. It's friggin hilarious.

    6. Re:slip your hand? by woodchip · · Score: 1

      Rather than modding you Troll for calling American football a pussy sport I am going to try to defend American Football. (I will be using the term Football to refer to American Football for the rest of this post) First of all I have to say that in my humble opinion Football is the most exciting/interesting sport to watch as a spectator. The goal off football, unlike soccer, and rugby isn't only about endorse and brute strength, but also relies heavily on strategy and skill. The stoppages between plays is not because the players are wimpy and require a break, they are there so that each side can play their strategy for the next play based upon the current situation. Yes they wear pads and rugby don't. They ware pads is because when a 350lb linemen hits you it hurts. In football different players are different shapes and sizes, and have different abilities depending on their potion. If they all had the same abilities, it would be boring, and less strategy. Pads allow the 145lb running back to go up against a 350lb linebacker with out being killed. As far as game play goes. I think what makes football so great is the first down. You have an ultimate goal of scoring a touch down, but you also have intermediate goals, You need to advance the ball 10 yards in 4 plays or you lose possession. Soccer and rugby lacks this intermediate objective, and makes it more boring to watch. Calling American football a wussy sport is a bit of a disservice. Yes, I am sure American football players would not be very good at rugby. But I also would bet rugby players wouldn't be equally as bad at American football, because, they are different sports, with different objectives and focuses with different rules.

    7. Re:slip your hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes they wear pads and rugby don't. They ware pads is because when a 350lb linemen hits you it hurts. In football different players are different shapes and sizes, and have different abilities depending on their potion. If they all had the same abilities, it would be boring, and less strategy. Pads allow the 145lb running back to go up against a 350lb linebacker with out being killed.

      As I recall, Theodore Roosevelt demanded that players wear pads due to the number of deaths caused by the impacts. Seriously, the pads serve the purpose of keeping the number of fatal injuries low enough for spectators (and players, family etc.). The reason that rugby and soccer don't use pads is because those sports don't cause too many deaths when people aren't padded up (most deaths are just during the riots).

    8. Re:slip your hand? by internettoughguy · · Score: 1

      The foot-pound force, or simply foot-pound (symbol: ftÂlbf or ftÂlb) is a unit of work or energy (a scalar) and also a unit of torque (a vector).

    9. Re:slip your hand? by obarthelemy · · Score: 1

      Actually, rugby players don't have all those protection, figure-, and crotch-enhancing paraphernalia.

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    10. Re:slip your hand? by ristonj · · Score: 2, Funny

      Tell that to Diego Maradona.

    11. Re:slip your hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...You have an ultimate goal of scoring a touch down...

      Errrm, why's it called a touch down when the ball does NOT have to be TOUCHED DOWN to score [only break the plane of the goal line]?

    12. Re:slip your hand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or handball where people run on their hands. Or basketball where people run on baskets. Or volleyball where you don't touch the ground.

    13. Re:slip your hand? by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      In that case, throw the ball to Chris Chambers.

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    14. Re:slip your hand? by binkzz · · Score: 1

      I think they're talking about Handegg (tm)

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    15. Re:slip your hand? by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 1

      Actually, rugby players don't have all those protection, figure-, and crotch-enhancing paraphernalia.

      Probably because they're not colliding head-on at full speed and sliding across an artificial surface.

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    16. Re:slip your hand? by gumpish · · Score: 1

      someone needs to let them know you're not supposed to touch the football with your hands

      Except in EA Goalkeeper 2010.

  5. What's the point by Swizec · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ok this is getting rather ridiculous. What's the point of having such a controller? If you're doing all that running around and stuff anyway, why not just go out and ... you know, do some actual sports?

    Why are they doing all of this and still leaving behind the single best application of the wiimote - swordfights. That's the only place where I can see a benefit from doing sports electronically since it's a lot friendlier to slash at your friends with an electronic sword rather than a real one.

    What's next? Everyone wears a Wiimote-shirt that can read smashing into other players so it can translate said readings into electronic caricatures of the game?

    1. Re:What's the point by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 1

      Ok this is getting rather ridiculous. What's the point of having such a controller? If you're doing all that running around and stuff anyway, why not just go out and ... you know, do some actual sports?

      But that's dangerous, you could hurt yourself doing real sports.
      It's much safer to run around inside of your home playing virtual sports.

    2. Re:What's the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you ever played the wii?

      Some examples of really cool uses of the wiimote:
      In wii sports/resort bowling you can put a spin on the ball and it's pretty accurate.
      In wii sports resort table tennis you can do back spins, top spins and curving.
      In mario cart you can of course use it as a steering wheel.
      In wii sports resort you can shoot a basketball very accurately.

      This stuff requires real skill. You cant just point a thumb stick somewhere and hit a button. You really have to pratice and thats what makes it fun. Nintendo has really changed the world and now Sony and Microsoft are filling patents for simliar controller ideas to catch up.

    3. Re:What's the point by PainKilleR-CE · · Score: 1

      A couple of different games have already tried swordfights, and done a pretty miserable job of it. Maybe the motion will help, but I wonder if anyone else is going to bother.

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    4. Re:What's the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      But wouldn't be even safer to run around inside your virtual home playing virtual sports?

    5. Re:What's the point by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      In wii sports/resort bowling you can put a spin on the ball and it's pretty accurate.

      Maybe in resort bowling. In Wii sports bowling the control is shit. Four of us stood around throwing bowling balls and not really knowing what was working and what wasn't, because throws which felt like we did the same thing produced entirely different results. Maybe my problem is that I've actually bowled, though.

      In mario cart you can of course use it as a steering wheel.

      Any steering wheel without force feedback is inferior to a joystick, it takes more effort for very little return.

      This stuff requires real skill. You cant just point a thumb stick somewhere and hit a button.

      You can, however, just twitch your wrist in most games.

      There are arguments to be made for playing Wii games instead of doing "the real thing", for example rainy days, or a paraplegic on any day. Or perhaps days when the air pollution is too bad to go outside. If we continue our slide towards a Trantor-esque future then that will be more common than not. (Before the CARB cracked down on air quality in Los Angeles, it was starting to cause lung lesions in children and the elderly!) The rest of the time, it would be healthier to go outside and actually do some real moving around, get that blood pumping and lymph flowing, and get some sun! Vitamin D is important and getting it from milk really doesn't work (not to mention that most people are lactose intolerant to some degree.) Join the big parade or end up a big fatass.

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    6. Re:What's the point by flynt · · Score: 1

      Are you really that short-sighted? The point is that finding 20 people to play football with in mid-January on a moment's notice is not very easy. Growing up, I used to play pickup games all the time with friends. As we age, I almost never get to do that. All my current sporting activity is organized. This gives me a way to play something exactly when I want, without the extra hours of setting it up and traveling. Oh, and the games are usually a bit more whimsical than the real thing. It's a lot more fun playing Wii tennis with someone who has never played tennis before than it is playing real tennis with them (and doubly so in January in the Midwest).

    7. Re:What's the point by iamhigh · · Score: 1

      Ok this is getting rather ridiculous. What's the point of having such a controller? If you're doing all that running around and stuff anyway, why not just go out and ... you know, do some actual sports

      Because it's hard to find a place and friends to play at night after my kid has gone to bed. Also it is hard to see the leather football after dark.

      Why are they doing all of this and still leaving behind the single best application of the wiimote - swordfights

      Because it would suck. What happens when you slash, but your opponent blocks? Now your hands are pointing at the ground because it didn't physically stop YOU... but in the game your sword is at chest level. There are other issues as well.

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    8. Re:What's the point by Swizec · · Score: 1

      Because it would suck. What happens when you slash, but your opponent blocks? Now your hands are pointing at the ground because it didn't physically stop YOU... but in the game your sword is at chest level. There are other issues as well.

      One word: gyros. If they can keep a segway up, they can block a sword.

    9. Re:What's the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey .. IDIOT .. the point he was trying to make .. which you IGNORED .. is that the NEW controller is much better ..

      all but one of your comments is about the OLD device

      fucktard

    10. Re:What's the point by ihatewinXP · · Score: 1

      I know you are being flippant about it but I want to run with your original point.

      It IS very dangerous to play real football. Full stop. Science is just starting to reveal what the long term effects of concussions are, and frankly I think many people including myself were horrified about how potentially dangerous it really is. Not to mention ligament damage and broken bones that can easily happen as a hazard.

      As a hocker player and boxer I think I can weigh in and say "Yes, some sports unless yo/// EVEN if you are a trained professional are crazy dangerous and in some cases (boxing) should probably be outlawed." This isnt tennis which is a great workout for any age and completely safe. I mean look at how loopy Brett Fahrve is now ;) Play Fight Night and Madden at home - then go outside, ride your bike over to a friends, and get some more gaming on there.

      It also sounds like a great way to bring the exercise back into it as well. Remember Nintendo is also huge in the Japanese market.

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    11. Re:What's the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The segway doesn't work like that.

      The segway uses (I believe) solid-state gyros to determine where "down" is.

      The motor is then used to keep the vehicle under the rider.

    12. Re:What's the point by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Maybe in resort bowling. In Wii sports bowling the control is shit. Four of us stood around throwing bowling balls and not really knowing what was working and what wasn't, because throws which felt like we did the same thing produced entirely different results. Maybe my problem is that I've actually bowled, though.

      Worked fine for us all. I think it reacts to how you hold and turn the remote during the swing.

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  6. Interesting patent, but... by raving+griff · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...I'm not so sure this design will ever hit market. Nintendo's got a bit of a history for filing patents on applications of the Wii Remote and never following through with them.

    1. Re:Interesting patent, but... by mcfatboy93 · · Score: 1

      im worried that if this does get a patent Nintendo will have a recall like they did for the early Wii remote arm straps because ppl were throwing them into their TVs. (and breaking them)

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  7. What's funny here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is all the defensive Americans marking as Troll anything that highlights the ridiculousness of calling this particular game "Football". As a European, I had exactly the same reaction as another poster: that putting the Wiim-mote inside a football would be dangerous.

    As it transpires, it's not actually a football, but for some twisted reason, it's still called that.

    1. Re:What's funny here... by Canazza · · Score: 1

      What else would you call the ball they use in American Football? An American Football! Despite Association Football (Soccer) being more popular worldwide than your pansy version of Rugby Football, there's an insitance in international media on calling an American Football a football and an Association Football a Soccerball (despite no-one outside the new-world colonies calling it Soccer)

      *tramps back to 1830 in a huff*

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    2. Re:What's funny here... by Swizec · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why's it even called American Football? Far as I can see from over the pond it's just a sissified version of rugby. (armour)

    3. Re:What's funny here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yea the image of somebody kicking a football ball in the living room, towards the TV, is weird. Then again the image of somebody having an American Football egg in his hand and doing pretend throws, isn't much better either.

      I wish the Wii came with a freely accessible camera and all that spastic flailing would be broadcast online :D

    4. Re:What's funny here... by TheRealSync · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's obviously called football, because you primarily move the ball around by using your foot... eh...

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    5. Re:What's funny here... by iamagloworm · · Score: 1

      but you don't. you primarily move the ball by running with it, falling down, getting up and running with it and falling down, maybe throwing it occasionally and eventually, if you didn't do very well, there might be a kick in there. rugby isn't much better, but at least the game is called rugby, not football with throwing...

    6. Re:What's funny here... by IrquiM · · Score: 1

      What else would you call the ball they use in American Football?

      Handball! Obviously

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    7. Re:What's funny here... by ThomsonsPier · · Score: 1

      As it transpires, it's not actually a football, but for some twisted reason, it's still called that.

      I was operating on the understanding that it's because the ball is a foot long.

    8. Re:What's funny here... by EasyTarget · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's a 'marketized' version of rugby.. They have been convinced to wear all the nancy-boy padding for 'safety', but mostly it's so that sports equipment manufacturers can make a mint selling it while giving ad-wankers the maximum amount of logo-space.

      There was once, so I understand, quite an interesting ball sport played in the US. An evolved variant of all the other 'football' type games played round the world. I believe it may even still be played by a small group with just an oval ball and a bunch of shirts/cones/stones to mark out a pitch and a sense of sportsmanship.

      But the commercial/educational variant of it has morphed into a mockery of a sport which exists solely as a vehicle for advertising, sportsware sales and pay-per-view.

      Ah.. In fact it's just like soccer then.. ;-)

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    9. Re:What's funny here... by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 1

      Whooooosh!

    10. Re:What's funny here... by mwvdlee · · Score: 2, Informative

      you primarily move the ball by running with it, falling down, getting up and running with it and falling down, maybe throwing it occasionally and eventually, if you didn't do very well, there might be a kick in there.

      I can see from your comment, you don't quite understand the concept of american football. Let me just expand your comment to make it more accurate.

      you primarily watch halfnaked girls do splits whilst waiving pompons, move the ball by running with it, take a 5 minute break, falling down, take a 5 minute break, getting up, take a 5 minute break, and running with it, take a 5 minute break, and falling down, take a half our break and watch some pornographical half-time show, maybe throwing it and taking 5 minute breaks occasionally and eventually, after a 5 minute break, if you didn't do very well, there might be a kick in there followed by a 5 minute break and half-naked girls again.

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    11. Re:What's funny here... by teh+kurisu · · Score: 1

      Taken. Even 'American handball' exists, apparently. My vote is still 'handegg'.

    12. Re:What's funny here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah.. In fact it's just like soccer then.. ;-)

      Seriously. Soccer is all about making money. One of the main occupations of the German association (DFB) is to sue hobbyists and fans who publish self-made videos and pictures of games with teams that are in the lowest leagues. It's disgusting. For all I care soccer is the better term. It's close to sucker. That's what its fans are as long as they support this system.

    13. Re:What's funny here... by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      All pro sports are like that. It is most disgusting in the case of the olympics, where if you want to drink a beverage not sold on the grounds (even as an athlete) you have to cover up the label, and there are sharp restrictions on media; you cannot share any photos or video clips. Your memories belong to the olympic committee! Every time someone brings up the olympics I go off on a rant like this, which may be why I have so few friends :) But then, I don't have to hear about how amazing the fucking olympics are, either. Greece should start a new-old olympic games, but it was associated with nudity and Greece is always trying to escape its association with buttfuckery.

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    14. Re:What's funny here... by EasyTarget · · Score: 1

      ... For all I care soccer is the better term. It's close to sucker.

      Brilliant! thanks :-)

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    15. Re:What's funny here... by LanMan04 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Good thing Slashdot is a European site...oh wait.

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    16. Re:What's funny here... by 222 · · Score: 1

      You've never played both.

    17. Re:What's funny here... by IrquiM · · Score: 1

      I'll join if you create a facebook group!

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    18. Re:What's funny here... by Stupendoussteve · · Score: 2, Informative

      Gridiron football is descended from rugby, American football is just the particular gridiron football rules used in the US, as is Canadian football in Canada.

      Rugby union and rugby league are also played in the US separately, the US even has the gold medal from the last time union was played at the olympics.

    19. Re:What's funny here... by Theaetetus · · Score: 1

      but you don't. you primarily move the ball by running with it, falling down, getting up and running with it and falling down, maybe throwing it occasionally and eventually, if you didn't do very well, there might be a kick in there. rugby isn't much better, but at least the game is called rugby, not football with throwing...

      Running and falling down a lot is soccer, though. Also, moaning and holding your leg, not to mention getting up as soon as the referee gives you a free kick and continuing to play.

    20. Re:What's funny here... by T.E.D. · · Score: 3, Informative

      all the defensive Americans marking as Troll anything that highlights the ridiculousness of calling this particular game "Football"

      This is a website run in America by a bunch of friends from Wisconsin. It can be expected that it will use American spellings and American terms for things.

      So any post placed here complaining about the American terms used by the Americans running the site will be controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant and/or off-topic, with the inevitable result of provoking other users into an emotional or disciplinary response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. It turns out this is the exact definition of a Troll

      So sue the mods for definition of character.

    21. Re:What's funny here... by coolmoose25 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have to say that as an American, I'm amused by the European bias with regard to the name "Football"... While I agree that the "world" plays soccer (American for "football"), the notion that it is the ONLY game that should be called football is ludicrous. The only reason the "world" plays "football" is because you busy Europeans seeded the "world" with colonies, so they call it the same thing you do. OTOH, Americans are not the only ones who have a different game called "football"... Canadians have a very similar version to American football, and while the differences are greater, Australian Rules Football is also another variant... I have not, as yet, read the disparaging remarks about either of those "football" sports. Perhaps the Wikipedia entry on the word football would be useful to you English speaking Europeans... And don't even get me started on the whole ZEE verses ZED controversy...

      "The word "football", when used in reference to a specific game can mean any one of those described above. Because of this, much friendly controversy has occurred over the term football, primarily because it is used in different ways in different parts of the English-speaking world. Most often, the word "football" is used to refer to the code of football that is considered dominant within a particular region. So, effectively, what the word "football" means usually depends on where one says it."

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    22. Re:What's funny here... by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      The other countries just never added pads and helmets to rugby because they couldn't afford them.

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    23. Re:What's funny here... by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      Every time someone brings up the olympics I go off on a rant like this, which may be why I have so few friends :)

      I can understand why that would happen. The question I have is, do you drive them away with your rants? Or would it be like if I were your friend, and I'd drive you away by always saying "Olympics!" at random times just to inspire your rants?

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    24. Re:What's funny here... by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Is all the defensive Americans marking as Troll anything that highlights the ridiculousness of calling this particular game "Football". As a European, I had exactly the same reaction as another poster: that putting the Wiim-mote inside a football would be dangerous.

      As it transpires, it's not actually a football, but for some twisted reason, it's still called that.

      The Brits also invented a football game where the ball is mostly thrown and seldom kicked with the foot. It was called Rugby, which split into Rugby Union and Rugby League, but both games are still called Rugby Football.

      Football games aren't so-called because of the kicking action, of the seven or so flavours of football in this world only one of them predominantly uses the foot to deliver the ball. The 'foot' in 'football' comes from the fact that these games are descended from pastimes that were played by the peasants 'on foot' as opposed to the games that were played by the nobles on horseback.

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    25. Re:What's funny here... by SleazyRidr · · Score: 1

      I have been told that 'Football' was originally the lower classes' game, so rather than playing polo on a horse, they just ran around on their feet. Of course the only real football is Australian Rules, although I could accept that 'International Rules' game we play with Ireland.

    26. Re:What's funny here... by Gizzmonic · · Score: 1

      The pads are because people were dying in football. Many, many people. President Theodore Roosevelt mandated the pads. Rugby allows interlocking formations and does not allow the forward pass. This makes it much less likely for rugby players to be involved in high speed collisions of the type in American football.

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    27. Re:What's funny here... by damien_kane · · Score: 1

      Why's it even called American Football?

      Because Canadian football (also the rules used in the few other places that pigskin football is different from American football.
      Two of the major differences are that Canadian football has one less down, and that the field is measured in meters, not yards (as such our football fields are about 110yd, or 100m)
      Personally I'm not a fan of football (with a pigskin), but as others have stated above, the armor is to protect a player from a bunch of 350lb guys hurling themselves at him. In rugby it's a lot easier to block/parry incoming kicks/checks, and you don't as often have everyone trying to tackle you to the ground. Football(with a pigskin) is more about trying to get as far as you can before the 350lb guy catches you, which involves more strategy in that you want one guy to run where the other team isn't going to be. Rugby is a lot more like soccer in that you want a bunch of guys to keep trading off the ball to keep it out of the hands of the other players.

      Lacrosse is better than all of them anyways, it's like soccer with swords...

    28. Re:What's funny here... by damien_kane · · Score: 1

      Or would it be like if I were your friend, and I'd drive you away by always saying "Olympics!" at random times just to inspire your rants?

      I find your ideas intriguing, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

    29. Re:What's funny here... by Alarindris · · Score: 1

      Undoing my mod points to reply.

      You know what happens when I ask a European who their favorite football team is(referring to soccer)?

      They say "Oh, I don't really watch American football."

      And if I ask them who their favorite soccer team is, I get "We call it football in Europe."

      The Europeans are always right, and all Americans are dumb.

      Fuck off!

    30. Re:What's funny here... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Either way everyone is happy, because I don't want to hang around sycophants of modern media and they don't want to hang out with people who talk about things which make them think. It's best for us to be apart. I have few friends because I can't stand most people. Most of the people I rub the wrong way I am consciously or subconsciously trying to drive away.

      I'm a gigantic dude, and one day on the bus a girl I'd thought was cute in high school but who never talked to me told me she had been afraid of me back then. This made me sad for a while, but on the balance I'm glad. I don't want chicks that easily frightened anyway!

      In other words, I'm happy with who I am; I think that in this world we give up on too many battles in general, and if I am going to be seen as a blowhard for standing on my soapbox occasionally, that's fine with me. All of my heroes have been those who were not afraid to stand up and say something unpopular.

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  8. As an American... by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I used to read European news sites and blogs, and wonder why they would write the word "football" when they meant "soccer." Then I reminded myself that I was reading a European news site or blog, and I would feel really, really foolish. But that was years ago, and I've become much more cosmopolitan now.

    1. Re:As an American... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      It's called "football" in the entire world. Only people from the USA call it "soccer".

    2. Re:As an American... by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's called "football" in the entire world. Only people from the USA call it "soccer".

      Understanding etymology? You fail it!

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    3. Re:As an American... by IBBoard · · Score: 1

      They probably wrote football because they were talking about a game where the predominant contact with the ball is with the foot ;)

      I followed the link from the front page to the summary wondering how they'd managed to do a real football controller, started reading the description and wondered how that would work ("insert controller in ball then hold strap while still touching buttons"? that's a long way to stretch and an uncomfortable position). Then they said throwing and I realised they meant they'd made a controller for Rugby and Grid Iron/American Football, not football.

      Now a real football controller - that'd be a bit harder to do without it being easily breakable or without easily breaking things in the room!

    4. Re:As an American... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Etymology is just that. etymology. That sport, whether you like it or not, _is_ called "football" all over the world. The fact that Brits _used_ to call it "soccer" bears extremely little relevance here.

    5. Re:As an American... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You fail understanding the problem in this.

      You see, both Football and Soccer are names for the same game. The game where a ball is being kicked with the foot.

      The Problem and cause of misunderstandings is, that the colonials are calling their girly protection version of rugby "Football" as well.
      Now come up with some etymology link explaining this catastrophic fail please.

    6. Re:As an American... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Technically there are lots of different versions of- or games called- "football", but Association Football is the one that most countries refer to as "football"... except the yanks (don't know about the Canadians). :-)

      I'm sure that a lot more people than you think know that "soccer" means "association football". I'm not sure that the piss-taking is so much out of the name "soccer" as the fact you refer to it that way instead of as "football", along with the implicit reminder that what you refer to as "football".... isn't. ;-)

      If anything, it's more a piss-take at Americans thinking their relatively local exception to the naming rules is the norm!

    7. Re:As an American... by xZgf6xHx2uhoAj9D · · Score: 1

      And people in Canada. And people in Australia. And South Africa. And Puerto Rico. And, according to Wikipedia, a good 10 other countries.

    8. Re:As an American... by nedlohs · · Score: 1

      Wow, you really haven't traveled much.

    9. Re:As an American... by Deag · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What happens in your little corner does not equal the entire world.

      Soccer is commonly used in countries with more than one code of football to distinguish it.

      In Ireland we use soccer most of the time as football could mean soccer or gaelic football.

    10. Re:As an American... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure in Puerto Rico they call it futbol, so they make 14 countries out of about 200.

    11. Re:As an American... by bryan1945 · · Score: 1

      I just find it funny that people around the world still like to argue about 'soccer' vs. 'football'. If the British want to call 'American soccer' football, let them.

      Slightly different, the differences between rugby and American football. I don't know how well rugby players are paid across the world, but I would guess that American football pays better (well according to http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_average_income_of_a_professional_rugby_player is roughly US$120K, and http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_average_salary_of_an_NFL_football_player, US$770K.) So why not try and get a job in the NFL for such an 'easy job' at 6X the pay for a year or 2?

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    12. Re:As an American... by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 1

      So why not try and get a job in the NFL for such an 'easy job' at 6X the pay for a year or 2?

      Because after you get hit enough times in the head while not wearing a helmet, you get addled to the point where you're lucky to remember your own name, let alone what career path to follow.

      Y'see, American football players wear helmets not because they are "pussies," but BECAUSE THEY CAN!

    13. Re:As an American... by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Well, then it's not the *entire* world is it then?

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    14. Re:As an American... by bryan1945 · · Score: 1

      But try explaining that to the Brits or Aussies...

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    15. Re:As an American... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the British want to call 'American soccer' football, let them.

      Correction: If everybody else but Americans want to call 'American soccer' football, let them.

      After all, why is it football? It's not a ball and you primarly don't touch it with legs.
      Handegg?

  9. Smart by boliboboli · · Score: 2, Interesting

    One of the key rules of business is to know your market opportunities and cater to the larger segment. Clearly football has become the biggest and most popular sport in the US(sorry baseball) and they are going after a huge demographic by catering to them. Being a big football fan myself who doesn't own a wii, but like the idea of my kids playing football someday, I may purchase one so we can play when we can't go outside and use the real thing.

  10. WII Motion Plus by sonicmerlin · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'm assuming this will require the Wii Motion Plus to work accurately. However, one of the biggest complaints I've seen with the Wii Motion Plus is that it makes the Wii remote too unwieldy, especially with the necessity of the "jacket" wrapped around it. It's beyond my understanding why along with the Wii remote add-on Nintendo didn't just release a new Wii remote with the Wii Motion Plus functionality built in (well, i suppose they wanted the money made from the peripheral). Not to mention, a new version of the Wii Remote will fit much more easily into a football controller.

    1. Re:WII Motion Plus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most likely they will do that when they release the newer, slimmer Wii.

      Along with the newer, looonger, harder, faster, more vibratey Wii mote.

  11. Football by segedunum · · Score: 1

    Then you mimic running and throwing...

    For most of the world that's not football.

    1. Re:Football by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You tell 'em, tiger!

  12. For fuck sake... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you want to play football, go outside and play some fucking football. This is getting ridiculous. How about some actual games now? This is why my Wii has been collecting dust since Mario Galaxy.

  13. Attention, non-Americans! by Megane · · Score: 4, Funny

    Please replace all references to "football" in the summary with "throwball".

    Thank you for your patience.

    Now a proper footy game for the Wii, that would be interesting. Maybe they could strap a Wiimote to each leg or something.

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    1. Re:Attention, non-Americans! by xtracto · · Score: 1

      Please replace all references to "football" in the summary with "throwball".

      Thank you for your patience.

      Now a proper footy game for the Wii, that would be interesting. Maybe they could strap a Wiimote to each leg or something.

      From your linked page:
      Since the sport barely requires you to use your feet.

      I wonder how do the players move, do they float or something?

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    2. Re:Attention, non-Americans! by TeknoHog · · Score: 2

      From your linked page: Since the sport barely requires you to use your feet.

      I wonder how do the players move, do they float or something?

      OK, they use their feet, and the sport involves a ball. This is why sports like tennis and golf should also be called "football".

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    3. Re:Attention, non-Americans! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FYI: They sound alike but they're spelled differently.

      "Football" always means American Football.
      "Futbol" is called "soccer" in the US because "futbol" sounds exactly like "football".

    4. Re:Attention, non-Americans! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no, tennis is sitball, because there's a ball, and players regularly sit after every few games played.

    5. Re:Attention, non-Americans! by SleazyRidr · · Score: 1

      That's actually what I thought when I read the headline. You could probably sell some special Wii-socks, and then slip the remote into them. Then you could use something like a wireless nunchuck to run etc...

  14. What the title really means by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nintendo Working On X Controller

    =>

    Nintendo making a cheap replica of X and sticking a Wiimote to or in it.

  15. Wii Sports Resort - Swordplay by AlpineR · · Score: 4, Informative

    Why are they doing all of this and still leaving behind the single best application of the wiimote - swordfights.

    There's a popular new game called Wii Sports Resort that uses a position-sensitive controller add-on to simulate several sports. One of them is Swordplay. You can jab, slice, and block your friend or computer characters. There's even a Nerf sword you can stick the controller into if you want to feel a little more dorky.

    1. Re:Wii Sports Resort - Swordplay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nerf sword

      Why don't you just come out and call it by its real name - a dildo !

    2. Re:Wii Sports Resort - Swordplay by momfreeek · · Score: 1

      Yeah but thats just lame.. how do they come up with 'wii sports resort' but miss 'immortal swordman hacking off zombies head's in a gritty dystopia'?

    3. Re:Wii Sports Resort - Swordplay by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      Why don't you just come out and call it by its real name - a dildo !

      LOL. Why don't you just come out and admit that you've either never seen a dildo, or never seen anything Nerf.

      Just fyi: foam makes for a really bad dildo, and swinging around a "sword" of latex rubber is a good way to hurt people.

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    4. Re:Wii Sports Resort - Swordplay by jmcwork · · Score: 1

      Why are they doing all of this and still leaving behind the single best application of the wiimote - swordfights.

      There's even a Nerf sword you can stick the controller into if you want to feel a little more dorky.

      I think that should be the next big Wii title: "Feel a Little More Dorky"

  16. Amy: by tyler.willard · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Wow! I could swear I was really playing virtual skeeball!"

  17. The NFL, sponsored by Tampax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Problem and cause of misunderstandings is, that the colonials are calling their girly protection version of rugby "Football"

    You mean they play American Football while wearing tampons?!! This explains a lot.

  18. Misleading title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After reading the title I thought that Nintendo was actually /working/ and that this might be worth reading.

    TBH sounds like one of a million more Wii/DS add ons to compensate for a sub-par gaming system.

  19. Yet another by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

    Useless attachment to plug onto my Wiimote for a single game that will cease to be fun after a couple of months, thus becoming a complete waste.

    Seriously, The Wii was a great idea when you filled in the blanks with your wii-mote. When all you had was the nunchuck to add on and you could turn that into a rifle. Or turning that combo into a fishing rod.

    It started with the Racing wheel, which I could ALMOST understand. It does make it a little easier to drive, though its not like it was difficult. But then Nintendo realized... Hey... We made alot of money selling this attachment, because everyone wants at least 2 steering wheels... and then BAM, theres an attachment for everything, even games that worked fine before without attachments *cough*Tennis*cough*. And no one wants to have to switch the attachments after each minigame, you spend as much time prepping for the game as you do playing the game.

    Don't get me wrong, I like Nintendo, this all just seems like a Cash Grab, and they've discovered they've got enough fanbase for it to work. The only things I ever want to see with a Wii are a Nun-chuck and the wii-fit board.

    1. Re:Yet another by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      Don't get me wrong, I like Nintendo, this all just seems like a Cash Grab, and they've discovered they've got enough fanbase for it to work. The only things I ever want to see with a Wii are a Nun-chuck and the wii-fit board.

      Yeah pretty much. They usually try to make quick bucks selling cheap add-ons, but the sheer volume is surprising and the number that fall in the nearly useless category usually reserved for 3rd parties, though at least not equally crappy. You pretty much named the two accessories that are worth something. Well and I guess the Motion Plus. The common theme? They contain actual functionality, rather than just a grip. :P

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  20. Wrong by Joebert · · Score: 1

    You know what, no. I play video games just like everyone else but this is just retarded.
    I'm not paying twice as much for a fake football that will be obsolete in a few years. Get off your fat ass, go outside, and play with a real football you lazy bastard.

    At least, that's what my parent's would have said if I wanted one of these as a kid.

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  21. Explanation by BigBlueOx · · Score: 1, Troll

    In order to further international understanding and harmony let me explain the differences between 'futbol' and 'football'.

    Futbol is sport in which tiny little guys dressed in their underwear run around a field the size of the state of Connecticut kicking a balloon. Nothing EVER happens on a futbol field so the fans take it upon themselves to entertain each other by beating the crap out of each other in the stands. And in the streets. And airports. And bars. And, I assume, in their neighborhoods.

    Football is a sport in which huge, hulking steroid-engorged freaks of nature mostly stand around waiting for the TV commercial break to end wearing body armor adapted from the game "Unreal Tournament" and then kicking the crap out of each other for some reason.

    Futbol holds the award for being the first participatory spectator sport and football holds the award for being the first sport to feature mostly-naked women bouncing around for your edification.

    Clear?

    Done and done.

  22. sissified? by Reverberant · · Score: 1

    Yup, football sure is sissified.

  23. Brought to you by the letter 'Z'... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And don't even get me started on the whole ZEE verses ZED controversy...

    'Z' is notable as the only English letter to have three names. You've mentioned the most common two -- Zee, and Zed, which incidentally is related to the German name for it, Tsett (the 'Z' is usually a 'ts' sound in German). That said, there is a third not-so-well-known name for the letter, found in some areas of Appalachia -- Izzard. I suspect that the UK comedian Eddie Izzard is riffing off this, but I don't know him or his work at all.

    We now return you to your regularly scheduled program...

    Cheers,

  24. Foot, pound, energy by tepples · · Score: 1

    A foot pound is a unit of energy, not force.

    When a thug pounds his foot into your head, your skull and spine absorb the energy from the shock. If this causes structural failure, you won't care about dimensional analysis.