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Disney Buys Marvel For $4B

whisper_jeff writes "Disney has announced they will be purchasing Marvel. 'Building on its strategy of delivering quality branded content to people around the world, The Walt Disney Company has agreed to acquire Marvel Entertainment, Inc. in a stock and cash transaction, the companies announced today.'"

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  1. Bye bye marvel... by CRiMSON · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It was a nice run while you had it, Enjoy doing princess disney stories forever more now.

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    1. Re:Bye bye marvel... by SputnikPanic · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I doubt that Disney will interfere much with Marvel's comics, I just hope they give Marvel's movie-production division as much autonomy.

    2. Re:Bye bye marvel... by nomadic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Marvel used to have a good universe, but it has just been mined and re-mined and used up. It is nothing that Marvel did wrong, just eventually fictional universes run out of steam. When you have to "reboot" or "reimagine" your titles every few years you know you're pretty much done.

    3. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Forge · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If Disney has 1% of the business sense I think they do they will keep the Marvel brand separate and use it as the vehicle for any mature or violent content that come into their possession.

      Of course they could all be drooling idiots over there, in which case, expect to see an Iron-man who never drinks, Wolverine who never kills and Mephistopheles who is just a male version of Cruela Devile.

      However, everything I have seen so far suggest that Disney is run by the same kind of stone cold business men who Make cigarettes. I.e. No concern for the product or the customer except in so far as adjusting either help them to make money.

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    4. Re:Bye bye marvel... by eln · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just wait until Spider Man 4, in which Peter Parker is involved in a love triangle with Hannah Montana and Nick Jonas. Will Nick and Peter be able to work out their differences through song and dance numbers before the big prom? Or will their constant bickering cause Hannah Montana to fall into the arms of the local bad boy, Wolverine? And if she does, will she learn the error of her ways before he tries to kiss her before they're even married at Tony Stark's big alcohol-free party? And will Zac Efron be able to save her and teach her that the only way to true happiness is dating nice boys, abstinence, and wearing knee-length or longer skirts?

      The possibilities are endless!

    5. Re:Bye bye marvel... by j00r0m4nc3r · · Score: 5, Funny

      With great autonomy comes great responsibility

    6. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Scrameustache · · Score: 4, Informative

      Disney didn't mess with Pixar too much, when they acquired them.

      Conditions were laid out as part of the deal to ensure that Pixar remained a separate entity.

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    7. Re:Bye bye marvel... by AmigaMMC · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't think anything is going to change on that aspect. I worked for Disney for 5 years and they're not likely to change a winning formula.

    8. Re:Bye bye marvel... by mollog · · Score: 4, Interesting

      These comics came of age in the time of existentialism right after WWII. Many of the original themes, especially for the better comics, were those very adult issues of moral relativism, personal responsibility vis-a-vis society, and other challenges to society.

      We can't expect Disney to extend these adult issues in a format that might appeal to younger audiences. Indeed, we can't really expect Disney to even appreciate the history of comics from that era.

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    9. Re:Bye bye marvel... by evilkasper · · Score: 5, Funny

      That wouldn't be much of a change from Spider Man 3.

    10. Re:Bye bye marvel... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Umm. Disney has earned their reputation for bowdlerized drivel; but they are part of the history of that era(some of their wartime propaganda work, especially the pacific theatre stuff, is "interesting"). They've been around since 1923. Any lack of understanding of that period on their part is simply pandering to tastes that don't like very adult issues, not a product of any historical gap.

    11. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It was even better than that. They promoted Pixar's John Lasseter to Chief Creative Officer of Animation for Disney. So in a sense, it was Pixar that got to mess with Disney after the acquisition. And given Pixar's track record, that's definitely a good thing.

    12. Re:Bye bye marvel... by confused+one · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Disney was around at that time. They've been slaughtering Grimm's Tales since 1923. (Trust me, Grimms Fairy Tales are much better in their original form...)

    13. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Volante3192 · · Score: 2, Funny

      And they have a whole new lineup to work with:

      Princess Mary Jane
      Princess Sue Storm
      Princess Elektra
      Princess Dark Phoenix

      Actually...I'd watch that last one.

    14. Re:Bye bye marvel... by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I worked for Disney for 5 years and they're not likely to change a winning formula.

      The beauty of Disney's model is that they sell to six years olds; six year olds with literally no memory and no experience of having seen their product before despite its being over 50 years old. It's as if Disney, as a company, is selling into a market with mass collective amnesia. They never need to innovate.

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    15. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Narpak · · Score: 5, Funny

      Which is why Disney-Marvel crossovers, like Phantom Duck teaming up with Wolverine to stop Magneto from stealing Scrooge's money, is going to be such a breath of fresh air.

    16. Re:Bye bye marvel... by jean-guy69 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Touchstone Pictures is nothing more than a brand of Disney.
      Under this brand, Disney produced :

      Starship Troopers, Revelations, Ladykillers, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy , Apocalypto, The Prestige,The Royal Tenenbaums,Dead Poets Society,The Nightmare Before Christmas ..

      See the complete list.

    17. Re:Bye bye marvel... by gfreeman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Disney was around at that time. They've been slaughtering Grimm's Tales since 1923. (Trust me, Grimms Fairy Tales are much better in their original form...)

      Klingon?

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    18. Re:Bye bye marvel... by maxume · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I wouldn't worry about it too much, Disney owns Miramax, producer/distributor of such family friendly fare as Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill, From Dusk Till Dawn, No Country for Old Men, and so on.

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    19. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Tetsujin · · Score: 4, Funny

      Disney was around at that time. They've been slaughtering Grimm's Tales since 1923. (Trust me, Grimms Fairy Tales are much better in their original form...)

      Klingon?

      Nyet, they were a Russian inwention.

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    20. Re:Bye bye marvel... by ubrgeek · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hell, I'd watch them if they were all in the same movie. Or at least the same scene ;)

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    21. Re:Bye bye marvel... by cjpa · · Score: 3, Interesting

      while the Grimm brothers just penned them down from oral tradition. They didn't do 'original' work either..

    22. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Sebilrazen · · Score: 2, Informative

      Don't forget Shining Excalibur Pictures, it was a one off production company created to release KIDS when Disney didn't want the Miramax name on it.

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    23. Re:Bye bye marvel... by mqduck · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Trust me, Grimms Fairy Tales are much better in their original form

      I don't generally care for Disneyfication of classic stories, but in the case of the Grimm's fairy tales, it's difficult to say that the stories are better or worse left in their original hardcore form.

      The original stories weren't so much supposed to be entertainment as moral and cautionary tales. Back in the day, the message to kids of Little Red Riding Hood was very relevant: don't wander around in the woods by yourself or you'll get eaten by a fucking wolf.

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    24. Re:Bye bye marvel... by damien_kane · · Score: 2, Informative

      Naked, petrified, and covered in hot grits...

    25. Re:Bye bye marvel... by hazydave · · Score: 2, Informative

      Disney doesn't destroy (or even Disni-fy) everything they touch. Some of it, maybe.. though I don't know if they necessarily made ABC any worse than it already was.

      Keep in mind, they have a number of different studio names for film releases. Sure, if it's a kiddie film, it's put out under the Disney label. If it's a smart kiddie film, it's probably from Pixar, whom they seem to have left pretty much alone. They also own Touchstone Pictures, Hollywood Pictures, older releases by Dimension Films, and Miramax (acquired in 1993).

      And yeah, that Miramax.. the same company that put out both halfs of "Kill Bill", all of Kevin Smith's films, "Gangs of New York", "Hero", etc... not what most people think of Disney. Not to say that's perfect, but I think they do know from where their money comes. And as the largest entertainment company on the planet, it's going to be hard to live a Disney-free life and still watch TV and film. Or, now, read mainstream comics.

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    26. Re:Bye bye marvel... by ajs · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Let's be clear about what Disney has put out through their other labels through the years (I'm not holding up any of the following films as anything but examples of diversity in genre):

      • Pretty Woman
      • Dead Poets Society
      • Who Framed Roger Rabbit
      • Good Morning Vietnam
      • Con Air
      • Armageddon
      • The Nightmare Before Christmas
      • Clerks
      • Pulp Fiction
      • Trainspotting
      • Amélie (nothing I can do about Slashdot's failure to deal with Unicode that it displays just fine in the text window)
      • Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
      • Kill Bill Volumes 1 & 2
      • No Country for Old Men (with Paramount Vantage)
      • Doubt

      If you expect Disney to water down Marvel comics, you should probably ask yourself how much watering down they'd have to do in order to bring it in-line with Clerks or Pulp Fiction.

      I don't doubt that Marvel's heyday is over, but that's not a result of the buyout. That's a result of their "properties" becoming far too valuable to "damage".

    27. Re:Bye bye marvel... by mollog · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm not sure but you seem to be agreeing with me. Disney was and is mainstream Amerika; conformist, sanitized, shallow.

      Comics (Graphic Novels) were very non-conformist; sensational, graphic, violent, and celebrating the anti-hero. I have no doubt Disney was aware of Graphic Novels, but their approach to medias was orthogonal to the approach by Marvel, et al, and Disney did not seem to try to compete with the themes of comics.

      For Disney to now take ownership of those very sources of alternative media is to see that alternative media co-opted, and to lose access to those themes.

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    28. Re:Bye bye marvel... by ajs · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is why I typically don't bother posting to Slashdot about this sort of thing... Why would you expect an example of their genre diversity (which is what I said that list was) would be exhaustive?

      Since clearly you mistook that for an exhaustive list, here's the actual list of films from the Walt Disney Motion Pictures Group:

    29. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Toonol · · Score: 2, Insightful

      non-conformist; sensational, graphic, violent, and celebrating the anti-hero.

      In other words, immature. Aimed at teen boys, like 'mature' modern videogames.

    30. Re:Bye bye marvel... by Scrameustache · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Trust me, Grimms Fairy Tales are much better in their original form

      I don't generally care for Disneyfication of classic stories, but in the case of the Grimm's fairy tales, it's difficult to say that the stories are better or worse left in their original hardcore form.

      The original stories weren't so much supposed to be entertainment as moral and cautionary tales. Back in the day, the message to kids of Little Red Riding Hood was very relevant: don't wander around in the woods by yourself or you'll get eaten by a fucking wolf.

      It's very easy to say that the originals should be told if you understand the real moral of the story: Red riding hood = Don't talk to strangers, some of them end up murdering you and your family.

      Kids need to learn the lesson that there are wolves that do not look like wolves, but are just as scary.

      The hardcore original versions are warnings about the real perils of the real world, with animal metaphors. "Protecting" children from them is only good for the wolves.

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    31. Re:Bye bye marvel... by ultranova · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It is nothing that Marvel did wrong, just eventually fictional universes run out of steam.

      No they don't, at least those as big as Marvel, it's simply that writers come and go. Fictional universes become popular if they have good writers making interesting stories for them, so any that's remembered has had a "golden age" at some point. And then the good writers leave or become lazy, and the golden age is over and people say that the universe has "lost steam". It hasn't, the coal guy has simply fallen asleep on the job.

      As evidence, I refer to fan fiction. All fandoms I've ever bothered checking have produced some good stories. Marvel itself has produced a truly obscene amount of stuff, but besides that there's been anything from high-drama Powerpuff Girls stories to epic sci-fi Sailor Moon ones. And of course Lovecraft goes well with anything.

      That's one of the reasons current copyright is so damaging, BTW: it makes it illegal to combine ideas from (an)other author(s) with your own, preventing or at least hindering the expansion of fictional universes into full-blown mythology. Good thing copyright abuse has pretty much destroyed its credibility, but still...

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  2. great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does this mean that we can expect to see unending series of cash-in sequels, like Spiderman 3, Fantastic Four 3, Iron Man 2, X-Men 4, etc?!? Oh wait...

  3. A good fit by KingSkippus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Marvel... The company that sued NCsoft for making a game in which superheroes could be constructed because some of them could be made to look like Marvel characters? And then it turned out that the most egregious violators were actually Marvel employees?

    Sounds like a good fit to me, I'm sure the companies will be really happy with each other.

  4. Hulk vs Donald Duck by elh_inny · · Score: 5, Funny

    Finally...

    Those clashes between Marvel characters and DC Comics ones got boring so now it's time for:
    Daisy vs Wolverine
    Pinocchio vs Spiderman
    Cinderella vs Juggernaut

    If they film any of those I am soo going to see this..

    1. Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck by starglider29a · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, Kingdom Hearts just got a lot more difficult!!!

    2. Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck by MrTree · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...also a comic book adaptation of "Bambi Meets Godzilla"

    3. Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, no, no. Pinocchio versus Wolverine. Pinocchio keeps lying, but Wolverine slices off his growing nose.

      And considering that Disney owns the Muppets also. Hulk versus Mrs. Piggy. Hulk calls Mrs. Piggy fat then look out Hulk!!!! *hiii-yah!*

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  5. Oh goody... by gregg · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now we get to look forward to Donald Duck and Howard the Duck crossovers.

  6. Marvel vs Capcom vs Disney anyone? by erac3rx · · Score: 2, Interesting

    All I can say is, if this opens the door for a sequel to Marvel vs. Capcom 2 including all of the famous Disney characters I am all for it. It would be a lot of fun to whoop some Mickey Mouse or Snow White azz with characters from the Marvel roster. You know you want to, just admit it.

  7. Now the Biggest Question? by dorkbot · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Universal uses Marvel trademarks in one of their Theme Park (Universal's Island of Adventure) in Central Florida. Will Universal continue to pay for these Likeness rights when they are to a rival company?

    1. Re:Now the Biggest Question? by DerekLyons · · Score: 2

      Unless they want to be sued, as well as losing some popular attractions, they'll stick to their contract - I.E., yes they will continue paying. Why is this even a question?

  8. Translated as: by R2.0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We've finally given up thinking of our own ideas and as soon as existing licensing deals run out we are going to squeeze the Marvel universe for everything we can get out of it, by giving it the "Disney" treatment".

    Although... Pixar doing Marvel comics? Could be good.

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  9. Re:great! by FooAtWFU · · Score: 4, Informative
    Sounds like it....

    10:32: Disney: Cost savings were not the big driving reason for the deal. What really drives is synergies over time. It will create enhanced growth rate for Disney over time.
    10:33: Iger: Even with DVD sales slowing, movies with strong, brand name characters such as Marvel characters will hold up better than others. "It's not bulletproof"

    -- WSJ coverage of investor call (ongoing) emphasis mine

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  10. can you say "price increase"? by prgrmr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Thought comic books were expensive now? Wait until Disney ups the price to help recover some of that 4 billion.

  11. Universal Orlando by Ken+Hall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wonder how this will affect the licensing for the Comic Book area at Universal Orlando long term. It's ALL Marvel, including the "Hulk" roller coaster.

    I suppose it'll just continue for a while though, the whole thing is pretty incestous.

  12. Batman and Porky Pig by tepples · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Thank god Batman is DC comics.

    DC Comics is part of Time Warner. So is Porky Pig.

    1. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by szo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'll take Porky, Bugs Bunny and especially Animaniacs over anything from Disney thanks all the same.

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    2. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Gargoyles was produced by Buena Vista Television. A division of Disney.

    3. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by Chelloveck · · Score: 3, Funny

      DC Comics is part of Time Warner. So is Porky Pig.

      And I, for one, am still waiting for the Batman/Porky Pig The Brave And The Bold team-up issue! Come on, Time-Warner, where's the fan service?

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    4. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by Requiem18th · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nice you mention that because Gargoyles (and to a lesser extent, Pirates of ...) is the only good thing to ever come out of Disney.

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    5. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by GyroLC · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's The Brave and the B-B-B... The Brave and the B-B-B... The Brave and the B-B-B-Enterprising

    6. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by griffjon · · Score: 2, Informative

      Thank you all for not making a slashfic joke

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    7. Re:Batman and Porky Pig by wolverine1999 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think we will end up getting another Superman now by Disney/Marvel though instead of WB...

  13. Re:It could be worse... by tepples · · Score: 3, Informative

    They could have bought DC Comics.

    Warner Bros. already bought DC, but that wasn't necessarily "all, folks" for fans.

  14. Meh by Pitr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Marvel has been going downhill for a long time. So much so that I consider this deal to be part of a natural progression. Between poor writing and poor management, I haven't seen anything good from Marvel Comics since the late 90s, or maybe early 00s. Some of their movies have been good, some have been horrid. I know "continuity" is optional at best, but you can only "re-imagine" a plot so many times before it becomes complete drivel.

    This deal will ruin Marvel like old mayonnaise ruins a dog crap sandwich.

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  15. Re:great! by CodeBuster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, except now Disney-fied and sanitized (look no blood!) to assure parents that little johnny won't be lead astray by those no-good comic books. If you thought that the Comics Code Authority was bad, just wait until Disney sinks their claws into the Marvel brands. I do not see how this can be considered to be good for comics in general and Marvel in particular. In fact, it will probably hasten the decline of American comics in favor of edgier manga and graphic novels coming out of Japan (a trend which was already clearly evident even before this latest deal).

  16. Fox and New Corp by mollog · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I hate Fox and Rupurt Murdoch, but they were the ones to push the envelope with media. It's too bad Fox didn't have the foresight to buy properties like Marvel so that the seriously adult themes in comics can be fully developed.

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    1. Re:Fox and New Corp by Mix+Master+Nixon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Did you SEE the movies Fox made based on Marvel properties? Other than the first two X-MEN films, it's been wall to wall dogshit. If Fox had bought Marvel instead of Disney, the pathetic whining and moaning from people who don't know what the hell they're talking about would be far worse and far more justifiable. Fox never met the property that they couldn't micro-mismanage into oblivion. They're the ones who hired Brett Ratner to make X-MEN 3. Disney will let Marvel do what Marvel wants to do because Disney likes money. Interference with Marvel would poison the brand and with it Disney's massive investment in it. Disney releases of Marvel films will be through a subsidiary company, most likely Touchstone.

      Last time Marvel was owned by a movie studio it was the short lived post-Roger Corman incarnation of New World Pictures. This couldn't possibly turn out any worse than that did.

      Also, Marvel/Pixar = WIN.

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    2. Re:Fox and New Corp by bobcat7677 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, with Fox's history of scuttling anything Sci-fi, I would not want them touching any comic book stuff. That being said, it frightens me alot that Disney is doing this. I can't imagine future movie adaptations of Marvel comic stories/characters will be all that good now. If ever I was to support anti-trust action, now would be the time.

    3. Re:Fox and New Corp by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 4, Informative

      I hate Fox and Rupurt Murdoch, but they were the ones to push the envelope with media. It's too bad Fox didn't have the foresight to buy properties like Marvel so that the seriously adult themes in comics can be fully developed.

      Disney bought Miramax in 1993. That's the studio that has released just about every Quentin Taratino film as well as titles like Priest and the Crying Game. I'm not saying Miramax is perfect, far from it, but even under Disney they've released many movies with adult themes.

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  17. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.... by 8127972 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... But doesn't Universal Pictures own the rights to many Marvel comic book movie properties? How's that going to work?

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    1. Re:Someone correct me if I'm wrong.... by iamjoltman · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not Universal (they had Hulk, but that went back to Marvel) but there is still Sony who owns Spider-Man rights and Fox who own X-Men rights (not sure about the other characters that were done before, such as Fantastic Four and Daredevil at Fox and Ghost Rider at Sony).

      Anyway, I believe any current deals will stay, but then when they expire it's assumed that they won't Marvel/Disney won't renew them.

  18. Re:The bigger these behemoths become... by mrtommyb · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, it might slow the passing of the Mutant Registration Act.

  19. Finally! A justification for Howard the Duck! by JoshDM · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not the movie, the Marvel character. Now Howard the Duck will finally be able to admit he's from the same universe as Donald. My inner geek is sated!

  20. Re:GREAT! by Philip+K+Dickhead · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The great suckage.

    I buy no Disney. They are cultural programming of the lowest order. You want a rotten child? Let them watch Disney channel 2 hours a day.

    If you could contrive propaganda aimed at undermining basic human values, specifically that of respect, you could do no better than to come up with this garbage. It is particularly detrimental to the child / parent relationship - always portrayed as a way to manipulate or deceive the old buffoons.

    Disney is death.

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  21. Re:Coming Soon: X-Men, The Broadway Musical by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 3, Funny

    Spider-man, Hulk, and Iron Man appearing on cruise ships is just as likely.

  22. Re:GREAT! by camg188 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't worry about that.
    Disney also owns Touchstone, Miramax, Hollywood Pictures, ABC and ESPN. The original reason Disney bought Touchstone was to release non-G rated movies separate from the Disney label.
    Touchstone, Hollywood and Miramax all release R-rated movies including the likes of Kill Bill, Pulp Fiction, No Country for Old Men, Reservoir Dogs, The Crow and Con-Air.

  23. Re:Cinderella vs Juggernaut by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 4, Funny

    How about the trend towards "Young ___" ?

    Young Cindarella: "Juggy, you're ruining my flower garden!"
    Young Juggernaut: "Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!"

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  24. what a Shame by OrangeMonkey11 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm just going to repeat what pretty much everyone is saying; f*ck Disney and RIP Marvel

  25. Re:GREAT! by ArhcAngel · · Score: 2, Informative

    You do know Disney owns a PLETHORA of media companies. Many of which do some pretty gruesome stuff.

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  26. Re:great! by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Considering Marvel has had many owners, I doubt this will make any difference. Heck, Disney is probably buying this because its suddenly extremely profitable to make movies based on comic book characters, not because they feel there's a need for a Disneyfied Thor or Dr Strange.

    I know this is slashdot and we're supposed to see every change as being a corporate conspiracy against us, but frankly, Marvel could use some direction from Disney. A lot of the artwork in Marvel comics is terrible. Its a company that always seems mismanaged to me. The Disney people really understand audiences and producing quality produts.

    Considering Disney owns Touchstone, Miramax, Pixar, ESPN, Lifetime, A&E, and a few dozen radio stations, I doubt they are going to suddenly go against the Marvel audience and make any serious changes. Frankly, Marvel is very much kiddified to begin with, so Im not sure what grittiness you're hoping to preserve.

  27. And they all lived FOREVER... by Uteck · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now we can rest assured that the Marvel characters will never fall into the public domain and live as part of the Disney brand for the rest of time.

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  28. Quality branded content by pluther · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You just need to realize which modifier is modifying what:

    It may look like:
    quality (branded content)

    But really they mean:
    (quality branded) content

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  29. As foretold by the Beautiful South by wickerprints · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Like the toupee on a fading fame
    The final whistle in a losing game
    Thick lipstick on a five year old girl
    It makes you think it's a plastic world

    A plastic world and we're all plastic too
    Just a couple of different faces in a dead man's queue
    The world is turning Disney and there's nothing you can do
    You're trying to walk like giants
    but you're wearing Pluto's shoes

    And the answers fall easier from the barrel of a gun
    Than it does from the lips of the beautiful and the dumb
    The world won't end in darkness, it'll end in family fun
    With Coca Cola clouds behind a Big Mac sun "

    Surely this must be a sign of the Apocalypse...?

  30. Re:Contracts. . . by Rutefoot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When Cedar Fair (owners of Cedar Point) bought up the Paramount branded theme parks a few years ago the new company simply rebranded the Paramount movie themed rides. 'Top Gun' became 'Flight Deck', 'The Italian Job' became 'Backlot Stunt Coaster', 'Tomb Raider: The Ride' became 'Time Warp', 'Cliffhanger' became 'Riptide' and 'Drop Zone' became 'Drop Tower'.

    It would probably depend on the ride, but even heavily themed rides like Top Gun and Tomb Raider made quick transitions with simply removing the respective logos.

  31. Maybe Marvel will change Disney by kenp2002 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Perhaps Marvel will help Disney with their "anti-two parent home" rage. Disney has always HATED two parent families.

    Don't believe me?

    Where are Donald's nephews parents?
    Ariel's mother?
    Goofey's Wife?
    Scrooge's Parents?
    Mickey's?
    Miney's?
    That little brat from Tailspin?
    Jasmine?

    I mean holy crap they hate parents apparently they are either dead or MIA!

    Marvel has plenty of Parents, Kids, Grandkids, hell whole genetic lineages running through the ages.

    Perhaps, just maybe, Disney will learn from Marvel... we can hope some day for an answer to the anti-parent obsession the Disney corp has...

    Stop teh h8 Disney! Stop teh h8! :)

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    1. Re:Maybe Marvel will change Disney by sycorob · · Score: 2, Informative

      You missed a huge one: Bambi's mom! They gunned her down in the first half hour of that movie.

      And then his dad just randomly shows up later in the movie, for one conversation. Bambi pretty much raised himself, in the mean meadows of his world.

    2. Re:Maybe Marvel will change Disney by Isaac-Lew · · Score: 3, Informative
      I hope you're being sarcastic:
      • Spider-man (no parents, father-figure/uncle dies violent death)
      • Hulk (abusive father who beats mother to death)
      • Wolverine (possibly illegitimate, most of family kills each other)
      • Daredevil (mother abandons him at an early age, alcoholic father dies a violent death)
      • Professor X (father dies, abusive step-father, his son & step-brother become super-villains)
      • Storm (parents die, grows up on the street)
      • Cyclops (loses parentsat a young age, grows up in an orphanage, daughter is from another timeline, son taken from him & grows up in the future)
      • Cable (see Cyclops)
  32. A plethora... by Tetsujin · · Score: 2, Funny

    You do know Disney owns a PLETHORA of media companies. Many of which do some pretty gruesome stuff.

    Jefe, do you know what a plethora is?

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    1. Re:A plethora... by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2, Informative

      .... overabundance; excess: a plethora of advice and a paucity of assistance.

      Yes, I think he used the word correctly, even giving link to it.

      On the other hand ... Beware the Imposter! You can clearly see, he can't even spell his nick right.

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    2. Re:A plethora... by ZaMoose · · Score: 3, Funny

      Forgive me, El Guapo. I know that I, Jefe, do not have your superior intellect and education. But could it be that once again, you are angry at something else, and are looking to take it out on me?

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  33. Re:GREAT! by jerwinch · · Score: 5, Informative

    as the parent of a 5 year-old and a 1.5 year-old, i could not agree with you more. the moment we disallowed the disney channel (just playhouse disney -- aimed at preschoolers) and only allowed pbs, there was a noticeable attitude change in my older son.

  34. Re:GREAT! by binarylarry · · Score: 5, Funny

    Did he immediately start smoking, drinking cappuccino and talking about how the capitalist bastards are going to ruin everything?

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  35. One word: Spider-Goofy by Jason+Levine · · Score: 3, Funny

    As he web slings around town he shouts "AHH-HOO-HOO-WEEE".

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  36. Re:GREAT! by mqduck · · Score: 4, Informative

    he original reason Disney bought Touchstone was to release non-G rated movies separate from the Disney label.

    I'm pretty sure that Disney itself founded Touchstone.

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  37. Forget that, I wanna see Marvel/Kingdom Hearts by gmezero · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Kitty Pride vs The Heartless

  38. Re:GREAT! by nizo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nonono, now we can finally answer the age old question: can Mickey kick Wolverine's butt, all in eye watering 3D!

  39. 75 of what? by 3247 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Disney Buys Marvel For $4B" - That's 75 in decimal. But 75 of what?

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  40. Re:GREAT! by Cstryon · · Score: 2

    I can agree with the Disney channels being junk (Save SOME shows on playhouse Disney.) but some of the classic movies are very good for children. I grew up watching Disney movies, so did my brothers and sister. We are all fairly successful, well mannered, mature individuals. We are spread all over Phoenix, and still manage to get together on Sundays, and have wholesome family time.

    I want some examples of how Disney is detrimental to the child/parent relationship. And I want examples of how Disney undermines basic human values.

    Let's assume it is true. Is my family the exception that proves the rule? Why is it that my Mom and Dad are very important to me, when I grew up watching Disney movies for hours on end? I'm willing to bet that a lot of this "Blame Disney" and other media bashing nonsense could be plain bad parenting.

    But I will agree with you jerwinch, the suite life with Zach and Cody, is straight nonsense. It's hard to find good TV shows in general, but Disney is not bad as a whole.

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  41. Re:GREAT! by blackraven14250 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think they're talking about the modern channel and its overall ludicrousness. Any entity is going to change over the course of 20-60 years, leading to different types of material being produced, if they're talking about movies.

  42. rawstory.com had Wolvie Mouse graphic for story... by leftie · · Score: 3, Funny
  43. I'm glad Fox got shut down on this by leftie · · Score: 4, Funny

    Fox News potentially getting it' hands on the Captain America property!?!

    Nonono. That must be prevented at all costs.

  44. Re:GREAT! by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Funny

    Those entities don't do animation, do they?

    I have a hard time believing Disney will allow 'PG-13+' animation to come from one of their properties - it's too close to the core.

    I'm picturing Wolverine with sporks.

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  45. Re:GREAT! by KronosReaver · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You want a rotten child? Let them watch Disney channel 2 hours a day.

    It is particularly detrimental to the child / parent relationship

    If your relying on television programing of any kind to teach your kids a positive child / parent relationship, Disney is probably the least of your problems. Imagine the difference if you didn't just plug the kids into the TV for 2 hours a day in the first place.

  46. Get Miley Cyrus to play Ben Grimm's girlfriend. by leftie · · Score: 2

    Sam Raimi decides to bring the Fantastic Four into Spidey 4 for a big crossover storyline.

    SR: "Who will we cast to play Spiderman's red-headed girlfriend? I know. Kirsten Dunst!"

    ---

    SR: "Who will we cast to play Spiderman's blonde haired love interest?"

    Is Ron Howard available?

    No... he's in Rumania directing "Apollo Splashdown"

    SR: "Then get someone else in the Howard family. I must those famous Howard hair genes playing Gwen Stacy"

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    SR:"We need to recast Alicia Masters. Tim Story really messed up casting that part for the FF movies. I just don't see Kerry Washington as Ben Grimm's girlfriend. Get me Miley Cyrus' agent. Get her in here to read for the Alicia Masters role...."

  47. Re:GREAT! by Mozk · · Score: 2, Funny

    We are spread all over Phoenix

    The Marvel character?

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  48. Re:GREAT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm picturing Wolverine with sporks.

    Those are dinglehoppers.

  49. Oooh! I can smell a "South Park" episdode brewing by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wow. Marvel has sucked at controlling its rights. They fling their lawyers around like idiots with dice. Remember "Marveloution" back when they tried to buy up all the comic book distributors and have their own little "Marvel" stores?

    Fail. They were too inept. Bit off more than they could chew. The screwed up the comics industry but good so that it took nearly a decade for everybody to get back on their feet.

    Now Disney, on the other hand. . .

    They know how to suck the soul out of a property and employ slave labor in China to make toys in a manner only Todd McFarlane could fantasize about! Oh yes indeedy! --The seedy beginnings of Marvel, (Didja know it sprang from the same family publishing um. . , 'empire' from which the classy skin-mag "Hustler" grew? Now you do. You're welcome.), all the way through their never quite taken seriously by 'real' publisher trajectory. . , that's what makes Marvel Marvel.

    And that's why Marvel has always felt edgy and honest, (if adolescent and stupid half the time) and all kind of held together with spit and. . , well, staples. It's been run by a long succession of people who don't fit into respectable society and who don't really understand business, --and who had a lot of fun (and a lot of burn-out) as a result. For all its warts, I love Marvel. --While Disney is pretty much an evil entity; It has no character and no soul except the practiced gleaming smile of a charming sociopath. --Hopefully they'll catch whatever Marvel has, get the shakes and die. But I'm not holding my breath on that.

    I hope comic shops don't change too much. Comic shops are one of the few paper media outlets which don't feel like they've sold out. (They would have if they could, and heaven knows they've tried, but the truth is, they've never had any capital the rest of the world really wants or understands, and so selling out hasn't been a serious option until these movies started coming out. Until then they had nothing to sell but adolescent power/sex fantasies and the occasional gem tagging along for the ride. If Disney gets its teeth in, do we really think that people like Jeff Smith and Dave Sim could have done their thing?) Hopefully Manga will keep things creepy and weird enough to prevent the grown ups from tidying up.

    After all, there's a dark and a light side to everything. Maybe Disney won't screw it up.

    Heh. Yeah. . . You gotta have a dream.

    -FL

  50. Re:Animation? Who cares? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2, Informative

    Who cares? Super hero animation is stuck on TV

    no, it's mostly direct-to-DVD. Check out Netflix.

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  51. Re:Animation? Who cares? by WED+Fan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And those DVD's play where? They are some of the worst part of the Japanese animation that some think of as ubercool. The story lines are still adolescent quality with nothing that drove the revolution into the graphic novels and bleeding edge.

    If they had one scintilla of a real Frank Miller, instead of paying a passing homage, then maybe I'd given them respect.

    Let me put it plainly, so you can see where you went wrong:

    The current crop of anime compared to where comics have gone, is the same as where SyFy is compared to true SF.

    It is a pale, cheap, flimsy excuse, with a direct-to-DVD quality that doesn't fulfill the promise of the characters that it rapes for the money.

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