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How a Team of Geeks Cracked the Spy Trade

drunken_boxer777 sends us to The Wall Street Journal for a lengthy article on a small tech company, Palantir Technologies, that is making the CIA, Pentagon, and FBI take notice. The submitter adds, "And yes, their company name is a reference to what you think it is." "One of the latest entrants into the government spy-services marketplace, Palantir Technologies has designed what many intelligence analysts say is the most effective tool to date to investigate terrorist networks. The software's main advance is a user-friendly search tool that can scan multiple data sources at once, something previous search tools couldn't do. That means an analyst who is following a tip about a planned terror attack, for example, can more quickly and easily unearth connections among suspects, money transfers, phone calls and previous attacks around the globe. ... With Palantir's software 'you can actually point to examples where it was pretty clear that lives were saved.'"

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  1. Call me dense... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But what is the reference?

    1. Re:Call me dense... by TypoNAM · · Score: 5, Informative

      This: Palentir

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    2. Re:Call me dense... by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's interesting in the context of this discussion that Tolkien's Palentir were more than just viewing devices. They could also be used to communicate with other stones, and I think for other purposes. Anyway, when one of the stones fell into evil hands, the Dark Lord was able to use his power over it to control anyone foolish enough to try and use one of the remaining stones.

      There's a lesson here I think.

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  2. Name? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    > ..a small tech company, Palentir Technologies..

    > ..Palantir Technologies has..

    > The submitter adds, "And yes, their company name is a reference to what you think it is."

    A spellcheck company?

  3. Reference to LotR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It was the seeing stone that Sauron used in Lord of the Rings.

    That is the tool the evil guy used to control the world. Sounds appropriate.

    1. Re:Reference to LotR by Hadlock · · Score: 4, Funny

      Thanks, my internet is down, I was unable to google that myself.

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    2. Re:Reference to LotR by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thanks, my internet is down, I was unable to google that myself.

      So how are you posting this?

      Probably using the legendary Posting Stone of Minas Wooshgul

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  4. Bad summary by gurps_npc · · Score: 5, Informative
    The summary seems to be a description of a meta-search engine, which is rather common. (Dogpile).

    The actual product seems MUCH more interesting than the silly summary. It compartamentalizes secret info, so if you are classified for level 5, you can still search and find info that is level 6, even if the file also has level 4 information. It can also tag information so that if your level 5 clearance is not enough to tell you how person A is connected to person B, you can still know that the connection exists.

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    1. Re:Bad summary by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The tech sounds quite interesting; but I'm not sure I love the idea of having intelligence agents operate on a "Yes, person A is linked to person B. You aren't allowed to know why; but the omniscient computer assures you that it is so." basis.

  5. Re:Great! by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And creates a great risk of corruption among those who use it.

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  6. The Palantir Tool is a Double-Edged Sword by reporter · · Score: 5, Insightful
    When you aim the Palantir tool at terrorists, you can easily identify useful patterns in disparate data. These patterns reveal information about the names and the plans of the culprits.

    What happens when you aim the same tool at ordinary people like Slashdotters? You will discover sexual orientation, adultery, etc.

    In other words, the same tool saving us from the terrorists can also defeat the last barriers protecting our privacy. If an intelligence officer in the government hated a particular SlashDotter (due to her articles in this forum), that officer could easily identify her address, her friends, her bank accounts, her adulterous lover, etc. Can you say, "blackmail"?

    1. Re:The Palantir Tool is a Double-Edged Sword by Dancindan84 · · Score: 5, Funny

      If an intelligence officer in the government hated a particular SlashDotter... her friends... her adulterous lover

      A female SlashDotter with friends and a lover... it would take a top tier spy tool to find that unicorn.

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  7. Re:Palin? by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, it's a Tolkien reference. IOW, they really are geeks.

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  8. Governmentsss spying on their own citizensss ... by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... we hatesss it, Preciousss, yesss we doesss.

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  9. Uhh... No. Wrong perspective... by denzacar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Good guys used it too. To defeat Sauron AND to "keep the world safe".

    In fact... Good guys made all 7 Palantir mentioned in LotR.
    Sauron got his hands on one of those and used it to corrupt Saruman and Denethor.

    So... No. It is not "the tool the evil guy used to control the world."
    The message would be that "power corrupts". In this case - power in the form of knowledge or information.

    What Palantir really lacked was a decent firewall. No protection whatsoever.
    Very intuitive user interface though. And they were practically indestructible.

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  10. Re:Palin? by Planesdragon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... a badly written child's fantasy world ....

    Now now, Tolkien's Middle-earth was a badly-written ADULT'S fantasy world.

  11. Re:Palin? by schon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Please turn in your geek card.

    No, that would be nerd card. Geeks have social skills.

    You obviously didn't READ the books.

    neither did I. I tried - I really tried.. but they were so horribly boring and long-winded it was impossible for me to make it through even part of the first one.

    Q: Why did the chicken cross the road?

    A by Tolkein: The chicken, sunlight coruscating off its radiant yellow-white coat of feathers, approached the dark, sullen asphalt road and scrutinized it intently with its obsidian-black eyes. Every detail of the thoroughfare leapt into blinding focus: the rough texture of the surface, over which countless tires had worked their relentless tread through the ages; the innumerable fragments of stone embedded within the lugubrious mass, perhaps quarried from the great pits where the Sons of Man labored not far from here; the dull black asphalt itself, exuding those waves of heat which distort the sight and bring weakness to the body; the other attributes of the great highway too numerous to give name. And then it crossed it.