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On-Body Circuits Create New Sense Organ

destinyland writes "In 'My New Sense Organ,' a science writer tests 'a new sense' — the ability to always know true north — by strapping a circuit board to her ankle. It's connected to an electronic compass and an ankle band with eight skin buzzers. The result? 'I had wrong assumptions I didn't know about ... I returned home to Washington DC to find that, far worse than my old haunt San Francisco, my mental map of DC swapped north for west. I started getting more lost than ever as the two spatial concepts of DC did battle in my head.' The device also detects 'the specific places where infrastructure interferes with the earth's magnetic fields.'

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  1. Much more practical... by FooAtWFU · · Score: 4, Informative

    A bracelet! Much more practical than the haptic compass belt, then.

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  2. What qualifies for new sensory organ? by Bicx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is this really a new sensory organ if it just relies on buzzers rather than direct neural connections? Maybe I've just been spoiled by all the awesome research done in computer-brain interfaces.

    1. Re:What qualifies for new sensory organ? by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 2, Funny

      If university students took it upon themselves to do some advanced neurological surgery as a fun project...

      THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.

      I hope they would Youtube the procedure.

    2. Re:What qualifies for new sensory organ? by jbeaupre · · Score: 3, Funny

      It has little teeny tiny pipes, bellows, keyboard, and guy in a cape with a mask over half his face.

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    3. Re:What qualifies for new sensory organ? by joocemann · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The body is an amazing thing. The brain, too. I was recently reading about a camera device that sends signal data to a 'lollipop' that is placed on the tongue of blind people. In short time, the people's brains began to interpret the signals (which are not the same as optical signals at all) as to what it truly was --- and the patients began to see. http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/08/22/2035256

      It really amazes me at the ability of the brain to start with some from of stimulus (beit natural or induced) and decipher its relevance.

      The difference in what qualifies 'sensory organ' may well be semantics; or maybe we need new definitions to describe these novel apparatus.

      In contrast, neurons are not in direct connection, either; neurotransmitters span a space between them called the synaptic cleft. Those neurotransmitters are chemical stimuli; these 'buzzers' are electronic stimuli. There are some differences and none are very clearly understood, but as far as I know we might accomplish the same by 'buzzing' with small and rapid doses of neurotransmitters instead of buzzing.

    4. Re:What qualifies for new sensory organ? by pla · · Score: 2, Insightful

      it also takes place, or adds "noise", to at least a region of our actual existing senses, information that could have been useful or needed and now become blurred by this artificial input.

      While true, we don't really "need" the vast majority of our sense of touch - Aside from letting us know about injuries (which I would expect to far outweigh the input of a small buzzer), any given point on our legs, torso, arms, or even most of our heads, really doesn't matter much so far as sensing environmental input goes. We generally can't even count on those to give meaningful input, because we wear clothes over them (and thus, automatically block out what little they do tell us) .

      Incidentally, I recall reading about a similar experiment about a decade ago, by a group of body-modification fans, where a few people implanted tiny rare-earth magnets in their fingers. While the magnets lasted, they described it as very much having a new sense. They could locate magnetic north, detect the presence and frequency of electric and magnetic fields, identify most metals (including non-ferromagnetic) just by touch, etc. Made me quite jealous, except the part where their bodies eventually broke the magnets down (with some rather ugly, though localized, surface effects).

      But this... Perhaps not quite as "cool", but also not quite as irreversable if something goes wrong. Time to hit the workshop...

    5. Re:What qualifies for new sensory organ? by dzfoo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      >> Technically this is a computer-brain interface. The device is just using convenient, pre-existing inputs to the brain.

      So, does that mean that reading a regular compass in the old-fashioned way, say, by using your eyes, qualifies as a computer-brain interface, since the device (the compass) is just using a convenient, pre-existing input mechanism to the brain (the eyes)?

      >> So what the difference if this relies on someone's sense of touch?

      The difference then is that the actual "sensoring" is done by the body's old hardware, so nothing new. Would you say then that a pager set on "vibrate" is a "new sensory organ" just because it communicates alerts via stimulation of touch sensors?

      Kids nowadays, they are so easily amused.

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    6. Re:What qualifies for new sensory organ? by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Funny

      camera device that sends signal data to a 'lollipop' that is placed on the tongue of blind people.

      There's a truly tasteless joke in here somewhere but I'm too lazy to figure it out.

    7. Re:What qualifies for new sensory organ? by tool462 · · Score: 2, Funny

      maybe we need new definitions to describe these novel apparatus.

      I agree. Perhaps something like extra-sensory apparatus, and the usage can be called extra-sensory perception.

    8. Re:What qualifies for new sensory organ? by RubberChainsaw · · Score: 3, Informative

      I heard about the magnets in fingers, too. You can hear it in the NPR archives.

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    9. Re:What qualifies for new sensory organ? by joocemann · · Score: 2, Funny

      suck it and you'll see the light.

    10. Re:What qualifies for new sensory organ? by 4D6963 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's a new sense nested inside an already existing sense. Like an HUD in your eye that would show you an infrared overlay would be like a new sense inside your sense of vision.

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  3. I found that by simply moving the buzzers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...from my ankle to a more "centrally located area" and I stopped caring about getting lost.

    In fact, turning in circles became quite pleasurable.

    Does anyone have any kleenex handy?

    1. Re:I found that by simply moving the buzzers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      huh huh huh... organ... huh huh huh...

    2. Re:I found that by simply moving the buzzers... by nametaken · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'll tell you what's amazing is that what you just wrote, and the fact that we get it, demonstrates just how deeply we've all internalized OLD ass cartoon characters as outward communicators of our inner dumbass.

  4. This is the future... by ohsmeguk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've heard of people implanting tiny rare earth magnets in their fingers so they can sense current flowing through wires and magnetic fields. I would like to try it when I can be certain they won't break when they're under my skin... :P

    1. Re:This is the future... by lattyware · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Seems like a bad idea on the basis they will eventually corrode inside you, and if you ever need an MRI you'll need to have them out before you can have it.

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    2. Re:This is the future... by sexconker · · Score: 5, Funny

      The MRI itself will take them out automatically.

    3. Re:This is the future... by sp332 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Here's a presentation from a woman who did it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voA7Uz7uABE She coated the magnet with gold + a layer of bio-inactive plastic, but in the end it still disintegrated.

  5. True North??? by Cassini2 · · Score: 5, Informative

    the ability to always know true north ... electronic compass

    I've been to Northern Canada. A compass points to MAGNETIC North. True North is at the North pole, the point on which the earth spins. At true north, the sun never sets, and sometimes never rises for days on end. In summer, it has the longest days in the world. In winter, the longest nights. Magnetic north is not the same place at all ...

    Magnetic North has some interesting properties too. Amongst others, the Magnetic south and north poles move around, periodically flip, and do not pass through the center of the earth.

    1. Re:True North??? by JWyner · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The only person to ever mention "true" north is the Slashdot poster. TFA never describes true north, and actually specifically states that they are using magnetic north. I am not entirely sure *why* they went out of their way to add the "true" and make the description *untrue*, but thought it worth giving credit to the actual science writer for understanding the difference...

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    2. Re:True North??? by ebuck · · Score: 3, Funny

      At true north, the sun never sets, and sometimes never rises for days on end.

      I personally would like to see a Sun that never sets and yet only rarely rises.

  6. Re:Mental maps... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...buy one of those $5 compass globes and stick it in the car...

    Or Forehead.

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  7. Re:Mental maps... by Max+Threshold · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Men, on the other hand, rarely use anything but a map. If I changed a street sign outside my apartment, my male friends probably wouldn't be able to find the place anymore."

    Maybe I'm an exception, but I don't think that's true at all. I navigate entirely by landmarks. I don't even know the names of half the streets I travel on regularly. Furthermore, my mental map of the city is framed by our light rail system, major bus lines, and bike throughfares, not by the major roads carrying automobile traffic.

  8. Don't need electronics for that by Haxamanish · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I was a teen, I always consciously kept track where the North was. Every time I made a turn, I would adjust my imaginary compass - yeah I was some kind of freak. I would also make note of the orientation of some landmarks in every city. After a while, it became an automatism, now (over 20 yrs later) I often amaze people by pointing where the North is with very good accuracy without using a compass. It always works, but if I have been a passenger in a car (or other transport) it takes about half an hour after arriving before I know where the North is. Extra bonus: if the sun is visible, I can read the time of day from its position. I guess everybody can train it with a little bit of effort.

    1. Re:Don't need electronics for that by onkelonkel · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Why can't you just look up at the sky and see where the sun is"

      Maybe he lives in Seattle?

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  9. Re:Mental maps... by Evildonald · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How to write an "Insightful" comment

    1) Find a quote from the article, and claim you've always known it, and what is more everybody already knows it.
    2) Make AWESOME generalisations about "how, like, men and women are different, yeah?"

    Really insightful. Can we remove the current judges and get new ones?

  10. Re:Shouldn't it be magnetic North? by jbeaupre · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, but the user might know how to correct for it.

    Step 1: look up magnetic declination for your location (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/IGRF_2000_magnetic_declination.gif

    Step 2: rotate the ankle bracelet to compensate.

    Or stand where you know you are facing true north, then rotate anklet until it indicates true north.

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  11. North Paw by EricBoyd · · Score: 4, Informative

    Some friends and I are the creator of the North Paw compass anklet. You can check out our website at sensebridge, or read all of our hack notes on the noisebridge wiki: compass vibro anket. You can purchase North Paw kits from us for $95, and then you don't have to take Quinn's word for what it's like to wear one :-)

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    1. Re:North Paw by joeyblades · · Score: 3, Funny

      This should complement my House Arrest Ankle Bracelet quite nicely...

    2. Re:North Paw by VShael · · Score: 2, Informative

      I was going to buy one, but luckily you also included a page on "items you will need".
      I'm afraid I'm not one of those geeks who owns a soldering iron, nor do I have any interest in buying one and learning how to use it.

      I could be wrong, but you might sell more of them if no soldering was required by the buyer.

  12. Saskatoon by Relden · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've lived in Southern Ontario most of my life and have a fairly good sense of direction. I usually know where north is.I wonder if this is more a function of memory than an innate ability: if I am a passenger in a car and fall asleep, I'll be lost when I wake up until I see enough visual cues to reestablish my knowledge of where north is. The same happens if I'm driving through a subdivision with lots of curved streets. A couple of decades ago I moved to Saskatoon in western Canada. I was lost. It wasn't the kind of random sense of being lost you get when you move to the new place. My sense of direction was completely reversed. I'd go south instead of north, east instead of west, not east instead of north or south instead of west. One day, I realized that this probably had to do with the rivers. I have usually lived near rivers, in places where I can actually see the river most days. In Southern Ontario, most of the rivers flow north-to-south. In Saskatoon, the river flows south-to-north. I think I had come to use rivers as mnemonic cues for direction. As soon as I realized this, my mental map of Saskatoon reoriented itself and I was never lost again.

  13. Re:Mental maps... by joeyblades · · Score: 3, Funny

    Men, on the other hand, rarely use anything but a map.

    I think it's cultural.

    I lived in Scotland for a while and whenever I asked for directions the men would always say something like: drive down this road a piece until you get to the Crooked Horseshoe Pub, take a right and drive to the second roundabout after the Dog and Monkey Pub. Take the third right and drive to the Old Tennents Pub. Go right at the next roundabout and drive about 3 miles. If you reach the Goose Bridge Pub you've gone too far... Stop and have a cold one, then go back about a mile or so.

    Show them a map and they look at you like you just asked them to diagram a sentence in Latin... and you're likely to hear some quaint Scottish expressions...

  14. Re:Mental maps... by sexconker · · Score: 5, Funny

    Compass On
    Apply directly to the forehead.

  15. Re:Mental maps... by Locke2005 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not that I'm surprised -- women will navigate first by landmarks and familiarity, and if that fails they fall back on maps. Men, on the other hand, rarely use anything but a map.

    [Citation needed]

    Like most men, I suck at giving directions because I can't remember the actual names of most of the streets used. Just like women, men navigate by running a sequence of events in a specific order, navigating by waypoints (landmarks) rather than absolute position. I suck at estimating the distance between landmarks, too, to the point where sometimes I get discouraged and turn around before I reach one, thinking I've already gone past it. And... (checking below belt buckle...) I'm definitely male.

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  16. Re:Mental maps... by oqaqiq · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think we have cultural bias here. Just think about all the people that live in a great city in Japan, with almost all the streets that have absolutely no names, and people who live there manage to do everything without problem. In fact they don't even realize this could be different.

  17. The Incident by No+Lucifer · · Score: 2, Funny

    The device also detects 'the specific places where infrastructure interferes with the earth's magnetic fields'

    Like the Swan hatch?

  18. Re:Mental maps... by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I object to this inaccurate stereotype. Where's the stop at the chip shop for a deep-fried Mars bar?

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  19. Re:Mental maps... by onkelonkel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You are likely an exception. My wife uses landmarks to navigate, I prefer addresses. She'll tell me to pick up my daughter at Suzy's house, assuming that I know exactly where that is because I was there once a year ago. If I ask where is that, she'll say "it's on the street by the golf course in the green house on the same side as where Bob and Judy used to live", which still hasn't conveyed any useful information to me. What I want to hear is "1234 Trent Avenue" which uniquely identifies the house. That way I'm not standing there like a dumbass in front of the wrong green house.

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  20. Re:Mental maps... by clone53421 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not that I'm surprised -- women will navigate first by landmarks and familiarity, and if that fails they fall back on maps. Men, on the other hand, rarely use anything but a map.

    That's not quite true. Your explanation is generally accurate for how men and women give directions, and for if they're going somewhere they've never been (or have been a few times but don't know the way by memory yet). Women will give spatial directions (turn left at the QuikTrip, turn right at the second street past the big church on the right...) whereas men will generally use street names.

    However, if you've already been somewhere a few times, it doesn't matter whether you're male or female: If you've been there enough times to remember the route, you're probably going off landmarks. I know I would be, and I'm definitely male...

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  21. Lost in DC? by lucas_picador · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How could anyone lose track of cardinal directions in DC, even for a moment? It's built on a NS/EW grid, with the streets named on a number/letter system. It's got a giant phallic symbol sticking up in the exact middle (which is at 16th street NW, okay, but that still shouldn't affect one's sense of north vs. west).

    The only place I can imagine where it would be harder to mistake west for north would be Manhattan, with its street (EW) vs. avenue (NS) distinction being impossible to miss.

  22. Re:Shouldn't it be magnetic North? by elgreengeeto · · Score: 2, Informative

    If the wearer was passively registering the information from the anklet, then it would truly be only 45 degree resolution. However, when wearing it, it quickly becomes habit to twist the ankle back and forth slightly, to feel the exact point at which active motors change. This way the resolution approaches something close to the actual sensing capabilities of the compass IC (minus noise from the lag of the motors spinning up and down). It's the same unconscious action by which you might tilt something at an angle to see it's surface better. To answer the magnetic vs. true north question, the fact of the matter is that it really doesn't matter WHAT it points at. We picked (magnetic) North because that's seems a good default standard in Western culture. The usefulness of the device is in having an ever-persistent point of reference. As long as that directional reference is *consistent*, it should be able to point any cardinal direction and still be integrated into ones cognitive sphere. (Disclaimer, I'm the co-developer and have a lot of experience wearing one.)

  23. Re:Mental maps... by clone53421 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    True.

    I suspect it is also related to the generality that men are better communicators, while women are better listeners.

    Men want to understand (and to be understood). Women want to feel (and want you to feel the same way). We've probably all heard the saying, "If a woman tells you about her problem, she doesn't want you to solve it, she wants you to listen". Of course it's not always 100% true, but it's still an accurate generalization.

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  24. Re:Mental maps... by belthize · · Score: 2, Informative

    My understanding is that women navigate by discrete landmarks building up a continuous linking of landmarks.

    Men navigate by way points and distances. They flag in their brain decision points and then track distance to next point.

    My wife and I've compared notes while driving and that certainly seems to be the case.

    The argument I've heard from an evolutionary view is women needed a very accurate mental image of nearby areas for gathernig. Men needed to be able to navigate to remote areas and return without really knowing a great deal about the intervening details.

  25. This is completely ordinary in some cultures by Estanislao+Mart�nez · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When I was a teen, I always consciously kept track where the North was. Every time I made a turn, I would adjust my imaginary compass - yeah I was some kind of freak. I would also make note of the orientation of some landmarks in every city. After a while, it became an automatism, now (over 20 yrs later) I often amaze people by pointing where the North is with very good accuracy without using a compass. It always works, but if I have been a passenger in a car (or other transport) it takes about half an hour after arriving before I know where the North is. Extra bonus: if the sun is visible, I can read the time of day from its position. I guess everybody can train it with a little bit of effort.

    There are several cultures, most famously Australian Aborigines, where you can't even speak the language correctly if you don't have this skill. A quick example is from this article by Lera Borodistky:

    Follow me to Pormpuraaw, a small Aboriginal community on the western edge of Cape York, in northern Australia. I came here because of the way the locals, the Kuuk Thaayorre, talk about space. Instead of words like "right," "left," "forward," and "back," which, as commonly used in English, define space relative to an observer, the Kuuk Thaayorre, like many other Aboriginal groups, use cardinal-direction terms -- north, south, east, and west -- to define space. This is done at all scales, which means you have to say things like "There's an ant on your southeast leg" or "Move the cup to the north northwest a little bit." One obvious consequence of speaking such a language is that you have to stay oriented at all times, or else you cannot speak properly. The normal greeting in Kuuk Thaayorre is "Where are you going?" and the answer should be something like " Southsoutheast, in the middle distance." If you don't know which way you're facing, you can't even get past "Hello."

  26. Re:Mental maps... by smoker2 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    It's only really americans who give directions in points of the compass like east and west. You would have to tell me which way was west if I was in a city. On the open road is different, especially if you have ever looked at a map or atlas, but in enclosed areas compass points are generally useless. I can miss a turn and take an unknown later one that heads in the same direction, and still know roughly how far off course I am, and how to get back on track. None of that is to do with maps or compass directions. Its called having a sense of direction. Most women would turn around and go back to the first turning because their mental "map" is inflexible. And of course, navigating by landmarks is useless unless you already know the landmarks, and if you miss one you're lost.

    I am a truck driver, so I do this navigating thing a lot. Strangely, 95% of truck drivers are men, probably because we actually have to get there on time.

    Just for a laugh, can you imagine America being discovered by women ? Yes, head out on that blue stuff, keep an eye out for a really big wave then turn right until you see a whale. After that just go straight on until you get really hungry.