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NASA Wants Your Ambitious High-Tech Contest Ideas

In an effort to create future Centennial Challenges, NASA is asking the general public to come up with (and submit) ambitious contest ideas. For the next six weeks, the Innovative Partnerships Program will be accepting ideas for new contests, with all submissions becoming public domain information. "According to NASA, any idea can be proposed for a prize competition that addresses challenges related to the mission of NASA in aeronautics, exploration, science, or space operations. Crosscutting topics or those that also address related national or global needs are especially valuable. The challenges must require basic and applied research, technology development or prototype demonstrations."

128 comments

  1. Teledildonics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    I mean, why not?
     
    Wow. Captcha: fetish

  2. Contest contest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    So NASA is holding a contest to see who can come up with the best contest?

    the recursion is hurting my brain...

    1. Re:Contest contest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yo dawg...

    2. Re:Contest contest by pilgrim23 · · Score: 1

      Well NASA does have their Ups and Downs.....

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    3. Re:Contest contest by samurai54 · · Score: 1

      Don't get me wrong here. I am not saying I am encouraging this or that i am proud that NASA is doing this, but at least it will bring more attention to our space program than the average American has been giving it in recent years. It's sad, people used to crowd around the TV to watch when a shuttle launched, now they just catch a glimpse on the news when they are flipping channels from tool academy and Hasselhoff on America's got talent.

    4. Re:Contest contest by CraftyJack · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Don't get me wrong here. I am not saying I am encouraging this or that i am proud that NASA is doing this, but at least it will bring more attention to our space program than the average American has been giving it in recent years. It's sad, people used to crowd around the TV to watch when a shuttle launched, now they just catch a glimpse on the news when they are flipping channels from tool academy and Hasselhoff on America's got talent.

      This could (and is) said of every half-baked NASA effort, including the whole "name-node-3" thing. To my mind, asking the general public to come up with ideas for Centennial Challenges means that:
      (a) NASA can't come up with a clear picture of what technologies are high priority and could benefit from a Centennial Challenge.
      (b) NASA sees the Centennial Challenges as public outreach with no real engineering payoff - so it doesn't matter what the topics are.
      (c) both (a) and (b).

    5. Re:Contest contest by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Immah let you finish AC, but AC had one best posts ending in an ellipsis of all time.

    6. Re:Contest contest by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 1

      Sometimes it is better to admit you are stupid and ask for help, than to just flounder away and get nothing done.

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    7. Re:Contest contest by TheLink · · Score: 1

      There's also (d) This is just a publicity stunt and NASA is going to mostly ignore the submissions anyway.

      See: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30217550/

      So go ahead waste your time. I'm not even sure if they will bother reading submissions after the first randomly sampled 1000 or so.

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    8. Re:Contest contest by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 1

      the recursion is hurting my brain...

      That's not recursion, it's meta! Yay metacontest, all hail the metacontest!

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    9. Re:Contest contest by ioshhdflwuegfh · · Score: 3, Funny

      [So NASA is holding a contest to see who can come up with the best contest?]

      the recursion is hurting my brain...

      That's not recursion, it's meta! [...]

      Exactly.

      Now, somebody should propose to them that they should hold a contest to see who can come up with the best contest.

    10. Re:Contest contest by Bitmanhome · · Score: 3, Funny

      They don't list any prizes, so later they're going to need a NASA Prize Challenge Challenge Prize Challenge.

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    11. Re:Contest contest by Teancum · · Score: 1

      I don't think you quote know the extent of the support for spaceflight that there really is, and the ability to watch something like a shuttle flight is something that may get better ratings for network television than they might think.

      With the advent of live streaming via the internet, you no longer have to depend on one of the "big 3" television networks to decide if something is worth airing. You have the choice of either watching the launch on NASA-TV (I've done that a few times), or my current favorite: Watching on SpaceVidCast

      Seriously, if you want to see full coverage of a shuttle flight from launch to landing, that is the place to go. On launch day, I've seen as many as 10k "viewers" on that website simultaneously during a "broadcast" or "webcast"... and this is just a backwater website that has spread only by word of mouth. Yes, when astronauts are sleeping and all that is being shown is a view out of one of the windows of the shuttle as the Earth goes by will only have a dozen or so people "logged in" and making the occasional comment. Still, there is interest in what is happening and it is awesome that you can even get such content at all.

      SpaceVidcast also has a weekly "news show" about spaceflight, which is also entertaining to see in its own way. Public support for spaceflight is actually larger than you might think, and comes from a surprisingly broad group of individuals with an incredibly diverse range of backgrounds.... both conservative and liberal I might add as well, and there are strong arguments to encourage spaceflight that can be made from either a liberal or conservative viewpoint.

    12. Re:Contest contest by Teancum · · Score: 1

      While the naming contest was strictly a publicity stunt, the issue about the hardware development contests is a bit more serious.

      The #1 problem facing the Centennial Prize program is that it hasn't received any funding at all for the past 3 years. Money already allocated to the program hasn't been eliminated by congress, but at the same time nothing new has been added. It still is a line-item on the annual federal budget and is mentioned in several appropriations bills, but it makes it difficult to get anything accomplished if no money is forthcoming.

      I can only hope that Charles Bolden is one of those pushing for this request for proposals and that the Obama administration is taking this seriously as well. This can be amazing and generate a lot of goodwill toward NASA if it happens, but you won't get anything to happen unless there is funding to get the contests held at all.

      What this request for proposals is all about is so NASA can come to congress with a pile of hopefully good ideas that can be considered for a future contest. Smaller contests that cost on the order of a few hundred thousand dollars to perhaps a million dollars is something that congress can certainly be able to support and fund, but you need to make a compelling case about it. Hopefully congress will be willing to fund this in the future.... which I think is the reason for doing this in the first place.

  3. Give Nasa your ideas by TechnologyResource · · Score: 3, Funny

    Come on guys, let's get some ideas. This isn't rocket science......oh, maybe it is.

    1. Re:Give Nasa your ideas by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      Rocket science is over my head. Let's just keep this simple, alright? I think that I could go for the world's record in chin-ups. Send me to the space station!!

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    2. Re:Give Nasa your ideas by Kamokazi · · Score: 1

      It doesn't have to be rocket science. We could use thrusters instead!

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    3. Re:Give Nasa your ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rocket science is over my head. Let's just keep this simple, alright? I think that I could go for the world's record in chin-ups. Send me to the space station!!

      If you do chin-ups on the ISS it couldn't be a world's record because you would no longer be on the world.

    4. Re:Give Nasa your ideas by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      Rocket science is over my head.

      I see what you did there.

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    5. Re:Give Nasa your ideas by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      LOL, alright, I'm busted. AC already got me on the "world's record" part. ;^)

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  4. Yo dawg... by AdmiralXyz · · Score: 4, Funny

    I heard you like contests, so I made a contest for your contest, so you can design the future while you design the future. Thanks, NASA.

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    1. Re:Yo dawg... by JeanBaptiste · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yo dawg, Imma let you finish, but Apollo had the best mission of all time.

    2. Re:Yo dawg... by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 1

      yo dawg, you like fish sticks?

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    3. Re:Yo dawg... by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      I think you meant Starbucks.

    4. Re:Yo dawg... by Hillgiant · · Score: 1

      Never gonna give you (or your interruption memes) up.

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  5. Nasa can't afford the programs it has now. by Banichi · · Score: 1

    WTF are they soliciting ideas for? If you have an idea that improves space travel, form a company and promote it. The returns will likely be better too, as you will own your ideas and can sell/lease them to foreign investors as well.

    1. Re:Nasa can't afford the programs it has now. by MickLinux · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree that Nasa can't afford what it has now. That said, NASA may be better off spending its money on contests.

      But this is an opportunity for any teams of graduate researchers who *want* to take their research into the market.

      All they have to do is:

      1. Design a contest that they are likely to win.
      2. Submit contest (or have a friend submit the contest, to avoid the apparant conflict of interest).
      3. Wait for similar contest to come out
      4. Enter similar contest and publicize heavily.
      5. Encourage donations
      6. Win, or come close
      7. Sell product under heavy publication
      8. Profit!

      Whether you win or not determines the initial profitability -- but not the long term profitability.
      The free publicity of being on the news helps determine long-term profitability.

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    2. Re:Nasa can't afford the programs it has now. by Banichi · · Score: 1

      I hope NASA does continue spending money on contests. Anything that reduces it's utility as a spacegoing agency is to be supported. When people realize it does very little (due to Congress repeatedly cutting it off at the kneecaps, financially speaking), it can be dissolved and it's assets sold to private corporations.

      It is sometimes better to scrap a bad system (NASA is rife with entrenched bureaucracy and poorly designed [24,300 unique tiles on a shuttle is an exercise in unnecessary complication] machinery.) than to encourage it, even if you get useful benefits from the result. Privatized commercial space travel is, in my opinion, a much better idea.

  6. Active Structures by MozeeToby · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I know it's a bit outside of NASA's purview, for the moment at least, but how about a contest to build structures that are held up by kinetic energy. You launch material to the top of your structure, catch it there, and throw it back down; transfering enough energy in the process to hold the structure aloft. This kind of thing could eventually be used to build Launch Loops or Space Fountains and is a pretty big engineering challenge that is probably solvable today with a little effort. And it's no more outlandish than a space elevator (probably less so in fact).

    1. Re:Active Structures by guruevi · · Score: 1

      I don't know exactly what you had in mind but it seems very science fiction-y to me and would have to account for things like: what if one (or multiple) launches fail for some or another reason and wouldn't you need more and more energy (in an infinite loop - eventually depleting all resources) over time or else the structure comes tumbling down. Space elevators are based on the idea that gravity will sustain the structure (although we need very thin, very strong, very light cable and we can (currently) only pick two)

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    2. Re:Active Structures by mcgrew · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That would be a great idea if it weren't for the laws of thermodynamics.

    3. Re:Active Structures by MozeeToby · · Score: 1

      You're assuming that each object tossed up will mean energy lost to the system. In reality, you'd want to keep the projectiles at high speed, including during the 'catch and throw back' parts by having them curve around a structure rather than stop and start again. The launch loop idea is perhaps easier to understand since it doesn't use discrete projectiles but rather one, very long, flexible belt that is looped at the ends.

      Have a read if I'm not explaining this very well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launch_loop

      The advantages over a space elevator are much faster launches, easier to lift the cargo (using magnets to borrow energy from your projectile/belt as compared to beaming power up with a laser), much higher launch capacity, and the ability to build them anywhere on the planet (as opposed to only the equator for a space elevator).

    4. Re:Active Structures by OctaviusIII · · Score: 1

      That's okay: we can just hook a thermodynamic compensator into the energy transfer matrix.

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    5. Re:Active Structures by MozeeToby · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Care to explain? The system would certainly take energy, a significant amount of it in fact. But that energy could be produced on the ground as opposed to having to take it with you as is done in rocket launches. Put your moving pieces inside of an evacuated tube and fire/turn the projectiles using magnets there will be very little energy lost to friction. The current estimates for the power requirements of a launch loop are a 500 Mw power plant for 35 launches per day and can be scaled up to 80 launches per hour with sufficient power (17 Gw).

    6. Re:Active Structures by Carbaholic · · Score: 1

      That would require building an evacuated tube that extends into space.

    7. Re:Active Structures by MozeeToby · · Score: 1

      Which can, again, be supported magnetically by your projectile stream/belt.

    8. Re:Active Structures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The abbreviation for Watt is generally capitalized (MW, GW), the same way Tesla (T) or Farad (F) is. Just FYI.

    9. Re:Active Structures by camperdave · · Score: 1

      As far as I can tell, the launch loop pictured will not work. They've got the loop arching up, over and down, then it circles around and comes back over the same up-over-down path. Once back on the ground it circles around and completes the path. That means in the launch arch the loop is travelling both ways. Any attempt to induce a lift field will be matched by a field that pulls you back to the ground. In order for the launch loop to work, the forward and return portions of the loop need to be separated.

      Of course, my knowledge of the physics may be off.

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    10. Re:Active Structures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Self Microwaving Burritos (SMBs)

    11. Re:Active Structures by UltraOne · · Score: 1

      The two top sections of the loop would be separated enough that you could connect a capsule to only one of them. Something on the order of a few hundred meters apart. Launching capsules would be connected at the West station to the West to East cable. They would accelerate by applying a magnetic field to that cable, and then release into orbit once fully accelerated. Landing capsules would have to match orbit with a section of the East to West cable near the West end. They would then decelerate by applying a magnetic field to that cable, and would be disconnected (after stopping) at the East station.

      On a scale (like that of the diagram) where you could see the entire 2000 km loop, the (for example) 200 m distance between the cables going in opposite directions will not be visible, so it will look like they are not separated.

    12. Re:Active Structures by UltraOne · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This system still requires energy input to launch things into orbit, but the key point is that it requires orders of magnitude less energy than a conventional rocket launch. Without going into the math, the key feature of the launch loop, space elevator, or other "skyhook" technology is that the propulsion system applies force against a structure that is anchored to the ground. This means that most of the energy goes into accelerating the payload.

      In a conventional rocket, the propulsion system is pushing against the exhaust. Exhaust comes out of the rocket at very high velocity. This means that most of the energy in a conventional rocket goes into accelerating the exhaust, and only a small amount is available to accelerate the payload.

      The other major advantage is that the fuel supply can remain on the ground, and does not need to be accelerated. In a conventional rocket, the first stage, for example, needs to accelerate not only the payload, but all the fuel in the second and higher stages.

      If people are interested, I can supply some math.

    13. Re:Active Structures by Teancum · · Score: 1

      Launch loops do have some significant engineering and even pure physical challenges in order to get them to work.... many of which they do share with space elevators. While I will admit that launch loops seem to be a bit more practical than a space elevator, both technologies are years or even centuries away from happening on a realistic level.

      This is a technology that I think would be incredibly exciting to see happen, but there certainly are some advances needed in materials science and even engineering in order to get this to work.

  7. I got it! by wesslen · · Score: 1, Insightful

    How about we find a useful mission for the billions of dollars in research we have just sitting around NASA? Like a mission that would improve the quality of human life instead of watching m&m's floating in zero g. I'm just sayin...

    1. Re:I got it! by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      What about a project that uses the coolant properties of Freon and freon substitutes to power generators that create electricity and charge batteries or a capacitor.

      The idea isn't free energy or anything, it's more or less reclaiming unused energy in cooling devices. Take something like a small powered laser or a charges nickel catalyst and place it in the freon lines with a valve controlling the pressure to be directed at some sort of turbine or generate pump before the freon goes from liquid to gas just to be cooled and re-compressed. The concept is that there should be some recoverable energy availible in the cooling process that can be used to either power fans or charge capacitors that can ease the power draw on electric motors during start up and operation in the system.

      If successful, not only could this increase the performance of energy intensive cooling in space craft, it could also lead to more efficient heating/cooling and refrigeration applications on earth.

      BTW, I believe the M&Ms floating around in zero gravity is a personal endeavor of the astronauts playing around between missions. It signified the actual lack of gravity as well as provides a useful distraction from an otherwise intense work schedule. I do not think any mission has been adapted solely to fling M&Ms around in space.

    2. Re:I got it! by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      You should study history. Humankind doesn't want better quality of life. They've had thousands of years to work at that goal, but choose to wage war, rape, plunder, pillage and kill instead. Now, get off your liberal arse, and help to develop a better bomb.

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    3. Re:I got it! by c6gunner · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You should study history. Humankind doesn't want better quality of life. They've had thousands of years to work at that goal, but choose to wage war, rape, plunder, pillage and kill instead. Now, get off your liberal arse, and help to develop a better bomb.

      I know that some bumper-sticker-thinker will probably mod you insightful, but I thought I'd point out that you're pretty much 100% wrong. Quality of life (and the average life span) has risen with minor fluctuations throughout recorded history, while the amount of "war, rape, plunder, pillage and kill[ing]" per capita has steadily declined. In other words, not only do we live longer and better than we ever have before, but we hurt each other less, too.

      Also, I'm fairly sure you're misusing the word "Liberal".

      Other than that, you're completely right!

  8. High-Tech Entry Form by shambalagoon · · Score: 1

    The first idea that springs to mind would be for NASA to have a contest to see who could provide a modern online contest idea submission form. Having the "Call For Prize Concepts" and "Entry Form" as linked Word files that need to be edited with your ideas, and then attached to an email with a specific subject line is not very high-tech or open. Word is popular but not everyone has it.

    1. Re:High-Tech Entry Form by oneiros27 · · Score: 1

      The sad thing is, I've actually been on NASA review panels before, and it gets even more meta than that.

      Most of us were using spreadsheets to track the scoring of each of the proposals. By the second day of the last review I was on, one of the other reviewers had customized her spreadsheet enough (I think there was some automatic colorizing, some formulas to sort the overall rankings (which were from 'poor' to 'excellent') ... that people brought up the fact that every reviewer does this each time we have a review, and there needed to be some grants given to improve the whole reviewing processing.

      I know NSPIRES had an upgrade in the last year or so, but that's a much more formal process for actually proposing to get grants, which would be way too much overhead for what they're trying to do with this contest.

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    2. Re:High-Tech Entry Form by Convector · · Score: 1

      With NSPIRES, you can weed out the obvious low-scoring applicants. Only those who can successfully navigate NSPIRES can actually submit grant proposals.

    3. Re:High-Tech Entry Form by Teancum · · Score: 1

      Too bad the contest ideas aren't being submitted via a wiki instead. It would be fun to take some of the contest ideas and have some collaborative writing to help refine the ideas and improve them to something worth paying attention to.

      Yeah, I know that isn't the usual proposal process for an organization like NASA, but it is an alternative that could improve the quality of submissions and be able to even have some "self-organizing" in terms of getting a community of interested folks put together and helping to perform the scoring a well.

      I've seen wiki projects where there are some outstanding gems but also a whole bunch of garbage... and that the gems seem to rise out of the ashes as well. Wikipedia is an excellent example of that, but I've seen it happen elsewhere.

  9. read between the lines by neonprimetime · · Score: 2, Insightful

    NASA Wants Your Ambitious High-Tech Contest Ideas

    because they don't have enough time or funding to do the research themselves!

  10. Baby steps by eln · · Score: 5, Funny

    The problem is NASA is trying to accomplish too much too fast. They should go for multi-stage contests, where individual teams can compete for each stage of a larger goal. For example, the first stage contest could be for the first group to successfully land a man on the moon. Ten years later, the second stage contest could be for the first group to successfully retrieve a human, or his remains, from the moon. The third stage could be a contest to see who could send a man outside of the Earth-Moon system. Several years after that, the fourth stage contest could be for someone to actually send a man on a trajectory to hit Mars. Fifth stage could be an economical way to retrieve small bits of spacecraft and human body parts from the surface of Mars. Eventually, around the 15th or 20th stage, we'll have a colony on Mars, from which we could attempt to contact the guy we shot off into deep space in the third stage. Simple, really.

    1. Re:Baby steps by PvtVoid · · Score: 1

      Several years after that, the fourth stage contest could be for someone to actually send a man on a trajectory to hit Mars. Fifth stage could be an economical way to retrieve small bits of spacecraft and human body parts from the surface of Mars.

      This is pretty much what Paul Davies and Lawrence Krauss have already been arguing for.

      I wonder if they're volunteering to go first.

    2. Re:Baby steps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stage 0. Successfully recreate the Ming Dynasty Astronaut myth.

  11. Shark with laser on their heads? by HaaPoo · · Score: 1

    i really want to see what these shark would be capable of.

  12. Here's something they really need by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Design a better toilet and you'll be in the heart of every astronaut who feels the pressure.

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    1. Re:Here's something they really need by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Design a better toilet and you'll be in the heart of every astronaut who feels the pressure.

      That idea sucks, in a literal sense.
           

  13. Invention of the Future contest... by skine · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...First prize: a mountain bike made of diamonds.

    I already made an invention for the future, I made that reverse microwave!
    I need to put freon in it to make it work. It makes ice so fast and makes beer icy cold and pizza too hot makes it a little colder so you don't burn the roof of your mouth.

    Also, as practical inventions go, there's the garbage juicer. How it works is quite incredible. All you do is take garbage out of any old garbage bag, and when the lights go on you're ready to go.
    The first tap is kerosene. You can use kerosene to burn your sweet mama's panties off.
    The second is root beer. Great for Friday night pizza parties.
    Last but not least grapefruit juice.

    1. Re:Invention of the Future contest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wtf???

    2. Re:Invention of the Future contest... by skine · · Score: 1

      It's from Haggard, probably one of the greatest worst movies ever.

      I'm not sure why I expected /. to get it, but Flamebait? I can understand a downmod, but flamebait? What?

    3. Re:Invention of the Future contest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haggard was kind of funny, but the sequel "Minghags" is terrible.

  14. The Kaye Project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Okay, NASA. I've wanted to know the answer to this for a long time.

    First, you have this vessel with the pestle. Now, bear with me. Next to it is this flagon with a dragonâ¦

    1. Re:The Kaye Project by sexconker · · Score: 1

      I'll get modded offtopic for it, but I'm betting most people don't get the reference, and don't get teh funniez.

      http://www.dagsrule.com/pestle.html

  15. Two words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Flying car.

  16. Three words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FreeBSD Virus Creation

  17. Re:The Kayne Project by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 1

    I agree.

    Send kayne West to space... for GOOD!

  18. Science Fiction by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

    They need to create some of the intresting items from the better science fiction books. Let's create a ringworld, or something intresting like that.

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    1. Re:Science Fiction by maxwell+demon · · Score: 2, Funny

      A Dyson Sphere contest!

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    2. Re:Science Fiction by Gauthic · · Score: 1

      I'd be happy with something as simple as SPIN GRAVITY on the ISS.

    3. Re:Science Fiction by skine · · Score: 1

      Or Cube 2: Hypercube.

    4. Re:Science Fiction by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Ringworld? Pffft, give us the @#&%! flying car first. If NASA can pull that off, they'd be showered in funding for all kinds of far out projects.
         

  19. Here's an easy one by Gravatron · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How about a contest to design a modern versions of the cameras used on the Apollo project? By that, I mean a lightweight solution to taking photographs and video on the lunar surface, usable by an astronaut in full gear, with enough battery life and capacity to take a few thousand pictures and or X many hours of video.

    Bonus points will be awarded if your solution also includes extra equipment, such as monopods/tripods, high gain antenna, solar recharge kit, is capable of surviving other hostile environments, such as the surface of mars, is capable of using different filters for uv/IR/etc, remote control options, etc.

    1. Re:Here's an easy one by Zordak · · Score: 1

      By that, I mean a lightweight solution to taking photographs and video on the lunar surface, usable by an astronaut in full gear

      Don't you mean a lightweight solution to taking photographs and video on a sound stage, usable by an actor in full gear?

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    2. Re:Here's an easy one by Carbaholic · · Score: 1

      There's an app for that

    3. Re:Here's an easy one by Gravatron · · Score: 1

      I'm not to optimistic about AT&T's coverage on the Moon.

    4. Re:Here's an easy one by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      How about a contest to design a modern versions of the cameras used on the Apollo project? By that, I mean a lightweight solution to taking photographs and video on the lunar surface...

      And a way to guarantee the results don't get lost Indiana-Jones style.
         

    5. Re:Here's an easy one by CraftyJack · · Score: 1

      Bonus points will be awarded if your solution also includes extra equipment, such as monopods/tripods, high gain antenna, solar recharge kit, is capable of surviving other hostile environments, such as the surface of mars, is capable of using different filters for uv/IR/etc, remote control options, etc.

      Are there extra bonus points if it drives around by itself? My money's on Steve Squyres.

    6. Re:Here's an easy one by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      And a way to guarantee the results don't get lost Indiana-Jones style.

      The reason those pictures got lost is well known. Buzz Aldrin was supposed to be the first Man to step on the moon. And it's only at the last minute that (for no apparent reason) Mission Control told him to let Neil Armstrong take his place and take all the glory that came with it. Both of them had cameras, and they both took pictures of each other, but Buzz Aldrin "accidentally" left his camera (with all the pictures of Neil Armstrong) on the moon.

      Now, I'm sure you could think up of technical solutions for that problem, but I really don't think there is any amount of technical wizardry that can prevent a really bitter astronaut from finding a way to enact revenge on his partner by sabotaging something. And personally, I think we're really lucky that Buzz had the camera to take his frustration out on, in my opinion, he could have found something much more nefarious to do -- to his partner otherwise.

  20. artifical gravity, without using centripetal force by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriouslly, I needs to happen.

  21. Design a Space Broom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Clean up all the debris that is already up there and you'll lower the difficulty of future challenges.

  22. An idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about a contest to go to Mars? You know, that whole thing they should be doing rather than hosting contest contests.

  23. Re:cam balkon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    calm bacon ?

  24. I WIN by sexconker · · Score: 1

    My contest is to design a contest.
    Thus, NASA has already chosen my entry, and I have already won!

    Quickly! To the entry submission form!

  25. I have a cunning plan... by KnowledgeKeeper · · Score: 1

    1) look at some weird hobby project you did
    2) describe it's functionality in the form of a contest description :)
    3) send the contest description to NASA
    4) apply your weird hobby project for the contest
    5) profit! :D

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  26. Re:Autonomous Robot by jamstar7 · · Score: 1

    I want an autonomous robot which hunts down lying politicians and ass-rapes them. For reference, that includes their conspirators at Fox News and NBC and the like.

    Would you settle for a semiautomomous killer robot that has angry sex with a midsized car? Might not be exactly what you want, but it'll be a good start...

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  27. Re:cam balkon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mhhhhh.... bacon.

  28. i think the next logical step for NASA ... by neonprimetime · · Score: 1

    ... is to begin working on teleportation ... enough with the big expensive space shuttles that keep blowing up or falling apart!

    1. Re:i think the next logical step for NASA ... by Teancum · · Score: 1

      If you can teleport even a single amino acid, I would be very much impressed. Right now most of the work is teleporting a single atom or perhaps for the very ambitious are sending a complete water molecule... and getting published in peer-reviewed scientific journals for doing that too!

      While in theory it may be possible (teleportation is a side effect of quantum computing), that is something for the far, far distant future... if it ever will happen at all on a macroscopic basis. I'm floored that it is even remotely possible, but it is an area of active research if for nothing more than pure physical science and just trying to figure out what is happening.

  29. New Spacesuits - Mechanical Counterpressure by Tekfactory · · Score: 3, Interesting

    MIT is working on a Mechanical Counterpressure Spacesuit, its called the Biosuit. The materials its made out of are not as advanced as they need to be, but some of the mechanical structures, and the concepts used to design the suits are ready.

    http://mvl.mit.edu/EVA/biosuit/index.html

    Basically by being a skin tight suit the wearer is better equipped to handle long hours in a space suit, right now something like 80% of an astronaut's exertions are fighting the suit, with 20% left for actually working on the Space Station or Hubble or something.

    In 'the future' we're going to spend a lot more time outside doing things, on orbit, on the moon, on mars and it'd be a lot better off if we didn't have to fight the suit to do the work.

    1. Re:New Spacesuits - Mechanical Counterpressure by Gravatron · · Score: 1

      Speaking of being outside doing things, what about a contest to design tool kits for planetary exploration/science? Something like a Lunar/Mars ready field geology kit? Would have to cram as many high quality tools/instruments into a set size and weight limit.

  30. "if you can't beat'em, join'em" by SlipperHat · · Score: 2, Funny

    How about a contest to make NASA part of the public eye again? Oh I don't know, "America's Next Top Astronaut".

    If anything, it would get people involved again, and the ratings and advertising revenue might supplement NASA's ever declining budget.

    (I'm advocating a "if you can't beat'em, join'em" approach. It probably won't work, but as someone who spent only five minutes thinking about it, I really don't know)

    Good Luck (You will need it - yes you NASA)

    1. Re:"if you can't beat'em, join'em" by IrquiM · · Score: 1

      That was done in Norway a couple of years ago (7-8?). And Malaysia I think, and... oh, guess the idea probably came from the US ;)

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  31. MEME Yo dawg... by Kozz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's certainly not the first time I've seen this meme, but can someone tell me where it originates? Is it yet another product of 4chan?

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    1. Re:MEME Yo dawg... by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 2, Informative

      Xzibit Yo Dawg | Know Your Meme (first hit on google for "Yo Dawg")

    2. Re:MEME Yo dawg... by wizardforce · · Score: 1

      but can someone tell me where it originates? Is it yet another product of 4chan?

      Sure thing. The meme started on one of the chans in 2997 based on the show "Pimp my ride" on MTV.

      http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/xzibit-yo-dawg

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    3. Re:MEME Yo dawg... by wizardforce · · Score: 1

      son of a!! 2997 is a bit far into the future isn't it? :)

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    4. Re:MEME Yo dawg... by dwbl · · Score: 1

      if you're referring to Admiralxyz's comment, then Xzibit's PIMP MY RIDE phrase is the source. but following that comment are the Kanye, Fish Sticks (South Park) memes (i don't know where the Starbucks one is from) http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/kanye-interrupts-imma-let-you-finish by mixing up with the Yo Dawg, we get hybrid memes! wee

    5. Re:MEME Yo dawg... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try the flux capacitor dude! The flux capacitor!
      Gees, do I HAVE to help everyone time travel. Next you'll tell me you don't have a Delorean to put it in either! Pttthhhh! :-b

  32. Dear NASA by camperdave · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Dear NASA,

    Here's a contest for you: The Find A Proper Administrator Contest.

    O'Keefe and Griffin really did a number on NASA. We've known for a while that the shuttles needed replacing, yet here we are, limping them along with no replacement* in sight. We'll have at least a five year gap in manned space flight capabilities due in part to the shortsightedness of these men, not to mention a space station that is not even complete, yet is shortly due for decommission.

    *I hear some of you saying "What about Ares?". Are you talking about the Ares that is going to lift our astronauts into an orbit with a negative perigee? Are you talking about the Ares that cannot lift the Orion module unless they strip out the airbags, toilets, land landing equipment, and a third of the astronauts? Are you talking about the Ares that is going to put the astronauts through the roughest launch environment (thrust oscillation, max-Q, G-forces, acoustics) that manned space flight has ever seen? That Ares?

    Or are you talking about the Ares that can't be built in existing factories because it is too big around? Are you talking about the Ares that needs a specially re-inforced launch pad, with thicker concrete driveways, and a new, stronger crawler because it is so heavy the current infrastructure is unable to handle the weight? Are you talking about the Ares that won't be ready to fly until at least 2020? That Ares?

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    1. Re:Dear NASA by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Find A Proper Administrator Contest...gap...due in part to the shortsightedness of these men...

      To be fair, their funding and political mandates change more frequently than most geeks' underwear.
         

    2. Re:Dear NASA by 32771 · · Score: 1

      They need something like a millennial continuity contest.

      Coincidentally I already have a plan. People have noticed that lowest consumption trajectories to the planets exist that take a long time to complete.

      http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/03/07/215211&mode=thread&tid=160

      Now pick one that takes you ~1000 years to reach some planet. The contestants will then develop spacecraft to travel this path for 1000 years and send them on their journey. Technically they could all arrive at the same time, so we have to add a little difficulty. The price goes to the descendant of the original contestant whose family has been involved with monitoring the probe throughout the whole travel time.

      This is going to teach society a lesson.

      There is a similar project here:
      http://www.longnow.org/

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    3. Re:Dear NASA by 32771 · · Score: 1

      This surely is going to teach me a math lesson. After 50 generations the whole world could be the family.

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  33. Funding contest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whoever lobbies the U.S. Congress to fully fund NASA wins $1 billion.

  34. Sounds like the lorax trick. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe I just don't understand what you've said, but it sure sounds like the Lorax lifting himself up into the air by the seat of his pants.

    You throw the ball up: force transfers downwards through your feet and pushes station down. Your buddy catches it up near the ceiling: the force you pushed down is countered by the force captured by your friend pushing up. Net result: zero.

  35. About that missile defence... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So I just submitted my proposal for a contest for constructing a spherical mega structure in space orbiting earth, kind of like the moon. Only to be used as a missile shield, utilizing a ginormous laser beam (which can also be redirected to blast pretty much any other extra terrestrial threats to smithereens).. I took the liberty of putting down USA, Russia and China under 'organizations with a potential interest'.
    I think this project would address pretty much all areas of challenge.

    Let's see how it pans out.

  36. I have, um, an idea... by hyades1 · · Score: 1

    Might I suggest research into the development of space-capable Carcharhiniformes. They should be adapted to accept cranial implantation of devices that employ light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation.

    Just a thought.

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  37. Easy fix by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    Obviously they just need to hold a contest to find the best way to judge the contest for a contest idea, but then they'll have to properly judge the contest for judging a contest contest.

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  38. Re:Autonomous Robot by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 1

    I want an autonomous robot which hunts down lying politicians and ass-rapes them. For reference, that includes their conspirators at Fox News and NBC and the like.

    Rapage is really complicated - how about we just give it a rifle?

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  39. Check. by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    And I am submitting a proposal for a space fighter with an aft-wing variable geometry biplane design, fitted with photon torpedoes to be manned by a space samurai and a funny bleeping robot. Your move.

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  40. How about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Those Hefty flex-bags should work

  41. Re:Ideas [goatse?] by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Dude, if you somehow manage to work goatse into a prize, you deserve the Troll of the Century award.

  42. Re:Autonomous Robot by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    That does give me an idea closer to NASA's abilities: control meteor paths to strike down idiots. It's like mod-points on steroids. (Just don't give the technology to Pat Robertson.)

        -1 Scary

  43. Summary Translation by earlymon · · Score: 1

    From TFS:

    The challenges must require basic and applied research, technology development or prototype demonstrations.

    Translation:

    The challenges must include things that require additional funding requests and expansion of administrative functions.

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  44. Asteroid by Yaos · · Score: 1

    Capture an Asteroid filled with goodies and direct it at the moon.

  45. Another NASA PR stunt by Animats · · Score: 1

    NASA, having failed at their basic job of putting stuff into space, is trying, yet again, to find another mission that doesn't actually require making a working launch system.

    NASA needs a major downsizing. Closing half the "centers" would be a good start.

  46. Space Prono? by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

    NASA clearly doesn't understand what relationship the 'S' means in NASA. Food/Oxygen/Waste recycling systems have been around for over 100 years, but NASA seems to be not to clear about this. Like wise, the Prono Industry is desperately looking for something that they can do that others cannot freely do for free. So there is only one place were "new" could be truly applied; that's right, doing the wild thing in zero-g, and filming it. My contest idea is to have Prono company's compete for the best zero gravity film. And the best part is that NASA doesn't have to spend a dime. The public will pay, the Prono will have a new market, and mankind can advance into space...

  47. A suggestion from an IT guy by Yvanhoe · · Score: 1

    Don't make your forms .doc documents

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  48. What contests do by Teancum · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While I know this was intended to be funny, not "insightful", there is a little kernel of truth here. NASA really doesn't have the time or funding to do all of this research themselves.

    Still, the point of doing this is due to the fact that there are many in the space exploration "fan clubs" (to use at least one term for the loosely organized groups of various kinds that support spaceflight) that have some pretty interesting ideas, and it would be a shame to throw out some very good ideas while a boring committee of government bureaucrats comes up with some stuff that doesn't really make a difference.

    If NASA can get a whole bunch of excellent ideas from a wide variety of sources, perhaps one or two of those ideas can make actual contests. All of the original Centennial Challenges have been wildly successful in terms of leveraging modest amounts of government funding with a whole bunch of private investment to come up with some very useful technologies for NASA to work with in the future. From just a pure fiscal standpoint, creating these contests are an incredible boon for NASA and do several things very well:

    • promote NASA as an agency - Seriously, if only for P.R. purposes, all of the contests including the Northrup-Grumman Lunar Landing Challenge and many of the other contests have brought some amazingly positive P.R. for NASA that by itself is perhaps more cost-effective than other P.R. efforts by NASA such as NASA-TV and frankly the public relations office at Johnson Space Center alone.
    • Developing folks with skills and talent that NASA needs in the future - I could cite a whole bunch of examples here, but there has been an incredible amount of innovation with all of the recent space prize contests. Essentially a whole new industry has been created out of whole cloth... in some ways mostly out of a response to enter and win these challenges. Even more significant is how these companies are coming back to NASA and working on non-contest contracts... now that they have the experience in making space-related projects.
    • Encouraging the growth of the space enthusiasts community - First of all, the contests give something for folks to write about and discuss. When folks are writing about traditional NASA projects (like the Ares I), there will be the hardcore fanbois that will always be ardent supporters of NASA, but there will also be detractors. While the same can be said about the contests, what is exciting with them is that with enough people trying to compete in the contests, there is usually something to write about with all of the contestants involved. Either a new entrant into the contest, a milestone reached by one of the contestants, or perhaps upcoming "competitions" and speculating on how they will be working. More significantly, stuff is getting done.... and that is being talked about as well in usually a very positive manner when somebody "wins" the contest. Often that will even spill over into the mainstream press as well.
    • The contests have an end - This may seem a little bit weird, but this is also important from a taxpayer/effective use of money standpoint. Other than a few accountants and managers to oversee the broad operations of the contests as a whole, no particular contest is creating any permanent bureaucracy. The same can't be said about other NASA projects, where for example the Apollo project is still getting funding in 2009. Bureaucracies love to stick around for a very long time, and sometimes even minor projects seem to just last and last forever. Once the contest is over, it is over. Perhaps a follow-up prize can be offered, but those involved in the contest can pack their bags and move on.
    • Contests are results oriented - No money changes hands until after the objective has been met. While you might be able to say that perhaps a contest isn't getting enough support and the prize purse should be raised to encourage more participation, ultimately the point is that people won't get p
  49. Defend Apollo landing sites! by customizedmischief · · Score: 1

    How about a prize for the team that can destroy the most autonomous lunar rovers on their way to defile the Apollo landing sites in order to claim that idiotic x-prize.

    http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/lunar/about-the-prize/rules-and-guidelines

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  50. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Contest:
              provide the most convincing evidence that the Moon landing was a hoax.
    Prize:
              tell the truth about how NASA is made to look like a dummy, since it is a pathetic decoy for the real space program