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Porn Surfing Rampant At US Science Foundation

schwit1 writes "The Washington Times reports, 'The problems at the National Science Foundation (NSF) were so pervasive they swamped the agency's inspector general and forced the internal watchdog to cut back on its primary mission of investigating grant fraud and recovering misspent tax dollars.' One senior executive at the National Science Foundation spent at least 331 days looking at pornography on his government computer, records show. The cost to taxpayers: up to $58,000. Why aren't they running a product like Websense?"

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  1. bad idea... by gandhi_2 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    no, not using gov't computers for porn. that's fine by me...

    that the guy almost used a "think of the children" defense for his actions. now THAT's fucked up.

    these young women are from poor countries and need to make money to help their parents

    1. Re:bad idea... by chrb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have known people who look at porn at work, but I find it difficult to be outraged about it. Why? Those guys are paid to do a job, supposed to be 9-5 but the porn entertainment tended to be a way of relaxing when they were still in the office working at 10pm. Nobody actually cared, even the bosses, because the employees were being paid to do a job, which they did well. As long as watching porn doesn't impact your work or offend colleagues, then why should it be considered any worse than surfing YouTube, Facebook, or even Slashdot? It's just pictures of people having sex.

    2. Re:bad idea... by COMON$ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Whereas I am not for pornography in the workplace (Porn causes phych issues). I do agree with your underlying argument. In workplaces we need to get away from the idea that if I sit at my desk for 8 hours I am productive. Rather we need a concept of whether or not the employee is doing work. I know people who surf half the day and still do 3x the work as the 9-5ers. This is especially so in gov't institutions.

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    3. Re:bad idea... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I find it difficult to summon moral outrage, assuming it doesn't affect job performance; but from an IT perspective there is something of a difference.

      With the proliferation of poorly vetted 3rd party ads and social network plugin "apps" and things, no class of websites is fully safe; but porn sites have a well deserved reputation for being particularly hostile and malware infested. Ideally, IT should be enough on the ball that that isn't an issue; but (especially given the number of hairy zero-day exploits and such floating around) it isn't a risk you really want to bring on yourself, if you don't have to.

    4. Re:bad idea... by jidar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Porn causes psych issues? Perhaps it just exposes them, particularly in people who judge people for looking at porn.

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    5. Re:bad idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sounds to me like he was tugging on something else.

    6. Re:bad idea... by Jaysyn · · Score: 5, Funny

      (Porn causes phych issues).

      Citation & spellchecker needed.

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    7. Re:bad idea... by mweather · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Psych issues cause problems with porn, not the other way around.

    8. Re:bad idea... by etenil · · Score: 5, Funny

      I agree with you. Each company should have its official pr0n sites list, all malware-proof and everything!

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    9. Re:bad idea... by Verdatum · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It is proven that milk(excessive) will kill you. Anything taken to extremes has the potential to be bad. However, concerning the question of negative consequences of porn, according to Penn & Teller: Bullsh!t (Not exactly a peer reviewed journal, but it's on the top of my head), "the studies just don't exist."

    10. Re:bad idea... by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You should try to be more vague.

    11. Re:bad idea... by Lord+Ender · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I would love to see which study proves the causality of adult entertainment causing mental disease.

      But even if what you said were true, it's stupid. Smoking causes disease, and that's allowed at work. Sedentary lifestyle causes disease, and that's required at work. All forms of "screwing around" at work should be treated equally; employers should not use their power to force their religious beliefs on workers.

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    12. Re:bad idea... by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Psych problems with other people daring to have sex (and fun in general without permission from various control freaks) have been at the root of nearly all imbecilic religious woo-woos and the subsequent witch-hunts by the fanatics of the said woo-woos since times immemorial, but they have truly and completely gone full-tilt mental with the raise of the Judeo-Christian flavours of lunacy.

      Thus it is no surprise that maiming and killing people is considered "moral" and "necessary in bringing Enlightenment, Freedom (to buy our products and make us rich) and Democracy (to elect friendly to our interests leaders)" while sex, particularly amongst younger people, is an "evil", "sin" and "immoral", to be punished, with prejudice and by extreme measures, for life (e.g. the "sexual offender lists"). Ripping a girl's hands and feet off by a 500lb bomb is a sad by-product of a "good deed", but seeing her enjoy sex is the very bottom of the pit of moral depravity.

      But because sex sells, the Western culture is getting increasingly positively schizophrenic about it, on one hand trying to please the Mammon (into worship of which all of the Judeo-Christian flavours of woo have morphed) and at the same time trying to reconcile the woo-fanatics' psychotic attitudes towards the fact that they are all mammals, no matter how much they pretend that evolution did not occur.

      And if you add to this the fact that other branches of Judeo-Christian idiocy, i.e. the Muslim-medieval kind, are even more rabidly insane, the majority of human societies on Earth are, to use a topic-relevant term: fucked up beyond description, with no relief in sight.

    13. Re:bad idea... by amplt1337 · · Score: 4, Funny

      it usually causes a physiological response

      Well, um, yes, that's the idea.

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    14. Re:bad idea... by Zarf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      *lol* yeah. fych issues. Nasty.

      As for actual documentation? Some studies in the 70's and 80's showed domestic violence, rape, and childhood traumas can be linked to people with excessive exposure to porn. A few minutes with google scholar will point to relevant articles and avoid getting sucked down into the depraved depths.

      Google Scholar and arjounals

      I think this might be like the "video games" cause violence argument. I think any reasonable person can see how it's not healthy to stare at violence all day everyday... it's also probably not healthy to stare at sex all day everyday... hell... it's probably not healthy to stare at slashdot all day everyday. Most obsessions are similarly destructive of people's lives.

      I think 300+ days a year looking at porn might be like the guy who drinks two pots of coffee a day. I think it's a symptom of something bad evolving in the person's life. Symptom... not root cause. I don't have a DSM IV in front of me but I'm fairly certain that behavior alone could get you a diagnosis.

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    15. Re:bad idea... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

      What are these scar inducing youtube videos you speak of?

      Boy, you are really asking for it. (Safe for work as long as you have your goggles on).

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    16. Re:bad idea... by Anonymusing · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They're putting the NSF back into NSFW!

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    17. Re:bad idea... by Dragonslicer · · Score: 2, Funny

      It is proven that milk(excessive) will kill you.

      So does water and oxygen in excessive amounts.

      So does love. After all, it is like oxygen.

    18. Re:bad idea... by WrongMonkey · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's not how you do a citation. At least name the journal. A Web of Knowledge search give no results for those author names and year.

    19. Re:bad idea... by swb · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If you can control their sex and their economics, they are at your disposal.

      I will cut religion one small break, though. I think most cultures have rules regarding sexual behavior; the problem is, we're not living in 5th century Europe where the major provider of social order as long as anyone can remember, the Roman Empire, is collapsing and we need some rules to live by other than fucking anything you can get your hands on.

      In an ancient civilization, the rules help keep the order. Unwanted offspring create succession problems (which in those civilizations is often a political problem, too), lack of sexual restraint can lead to your wife or daughter getting raped, and then there's the question of what to do with the women and the unwanted offspring.

      The problem is they keep trying to enforce rules that maybe made sense in rural Europe in the 6th century in the 21st century when technology generally has solved the unwanted offspring problem and better socialization largely encourages people to not use violent means to satisfy their desires, sexual or otherwise.

    20. Re:bad idea... by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 3, Informative

      In an ancient civilization, the rules help keep the order. Unwanted offspring create succession problems (which in those civilizations is often a political problem, too), lack of sexual restraint can lead to your wife or daughter getting raped, and then there's the question of what to do with the women and the unwanted offspring.

      I have to disagree.

      Your response is simply a demonstration of how deeply ingrained the Judeo-Christian woo has become in the world-view of people brought up under its ever-present influence. As I pointed out to another poster on this thread, your assumption about rules and sex is proven wrong by the fact that many societies existed before the Judeo-Christian woo took root and some long after, in isolation, which had a completely different approach to the problems of children and overpopulation. In many, children were thought to be a communal responsibility, looked after by women of the tribe together and sexual restraint was practised essentially by various means involving natural contraceptives. Also the concept of "marriage", which seems to be the base foundation of modern societies did not exist in the form that is considered unquestionable by most people today. So the current "method" or societal organization and dealing with children is not by any means the only one, even though you would never get this impression from watching the modern societies in action.

    21. Re:bad idea... by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah and look how well those tribes have done in scaling up their societies in comparison.

      The answer is that we will simply never know, as they were destroyed and overrun (usually violently) by the much more aggressive followers of the dominant militant woos. In the case of Europe, Africa and America that being the Judeo-Christian one and in most places in Far East, Buddhism, Hinduism and the like.

      So this isn't the case of "scalability", rather a case of "inferior warmongering". Possibly their attitudes towards sex were somehow related with their general outlook on life, apparently not conductive to leading wide-spread bloody conquests of others.

    22. Re:bad idea... by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Please stop calling sex-phobia Judeo-Christian. We Jews had nothing to do with it. In our religion we're positively commanded to get it on, with specific regulations on how often you must satisfy your wife based on your occupation. Oh, and we used to have concubines!

    23. Re:bad idea... by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Uhm, no. The Old Testament is full of "immorality pisses off God and he nukes the fornicating sinners, their children and their children's children, cousins, second-cousins, cats, dogs etc" type of stuff. As to modernity, why, one has to only take a look at what the Hasidic characters are up to ....

    24. Re:bad idea... by Verdatum · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Heh, no coincidence, the show has never claimed to be impartial, or scientific. They frequently admit to using all sorts of editing tricks to accentuate whatever point they like. Penn is an outspoken libertarian, and he's got his own show, where he can say pretty much whatever he likes.
      On that particular episode, they could've claimed that porn doesn't make people more likely to commit sexual assault, but they didn't. They said they didn't know, and neither does anyone else. They did claim to like porn, and that it was silly to take away something that people like without any decent evidence that it is causing harm. That sounds like a reasonable conclusion to me.

    25. Re:bad idea... by URL+Scruggs · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That study compared the result of watching a rom-com with watching a David Lynch movie and their conclusion was that the rom-coms fucked you up more than David Lynch? I totally call Bullshit! on that.

      Why? Lynch's films often leave a lot open to the viewer to conclude, allowing people to think for themselves and make their own judgements. Your typical rom-com practically forces an emotional response out of the viewer - usually based on a (noxious?) set of ideals that are hard to live up to. Eraserhead may be scary, but not as much as the idea that your real life isn't as good as the ones in heightened emotional world that is a hollywood rom-com.

  2. Spent or did during? by JerryLove · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Did he spend 331 days, or did he check at some point every day he was at work?

    Once we get past "surfed porn at work", the number of hours seems more relvent than the number of days.

    1. Re:Spent or did during? by MBGMorden · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Once we get past "surfed porn at work", the number of hours seems more relvent than the number of days.

      You know very well that the guy was doing what reporters do best: quoting whatever statistic would sound more shocking. 20 hours doesn't sound nearly as bad to an audience as 331 days.

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    2. Re:Spent or did during? by Zarf · · Score: 2

      Did he spend 331 days, or did he check at some point every day he was at work?

      Once we get past "surfed porn at work", the number of hours seems more relvent than the number of days.

      I think I agree. 331 consecutive days totaling 331 minutes total means inappropriate behavior and deserves censure of some kind. 331 days totaling thousands of hours probably means the person needs to get professional help for their sex addiction. Somewhere in the middle the person should be fired for goofing off on the job.

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  3. Best Intentions by bugeaterr · · Score: 5, Funny

    It all started out as innocent research on "Black Holes" and "Uranus"...

    1. Re:Best Intentions by Kadagan+AU · · Score: 5, Funny

      I believe they were actually looking for items with the tag "National Science Foundation Website" (nsfw), but found things they hadn't planned on.

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  4. $58k? by ballyhoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sounds like they need a better quality cacheing system, or get some of the pr0n served on a locally hosted CDN. Or stick it on their LAN fileservers. Let's get practical here!

  5. FOSS by JSG · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why aren't they running a product like Websense?"

    ... or Squid + Dans Guardian (for example)? It's somewhat cheaper ...

    1. Re:FOSS by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Some poor worker would end up having to administer it, and once you factor in his salary, and the salary of his replacement-- because he's spending too much time plugging censorware holes...

      It's a bureaucracy. At some point, some accountant had to justify so many hundreds of thousands of dollars spent on maintaining an investigation squad, and somehow, because they spent some fraction of that time investigating Dr. X, Dr X gets blamed for costing the NSF some fraction times the entire budget of the investigation squad.

  6. Old News? by travisb828 · · Score: 4, Informative

    First this is coming from the Washington Times. Its the newspaper equivalent of Fox News.

    Second this was reported back in January 2009.

    http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=NSF+porn+surfing&scoring=a&hl=en&ned=us&um=1&sa=N&sugg=d&as_ldate=2000&as_hdate=2009&lnav=hist9

  7. Certain Alibi by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

    "But officer, it's research!"

  8. Porn at work should be encouraged by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To begin with, this is a senior executive, not some lowly password changer in the basement. The policy against surfing porn at work may apply to all equally, but as we all know, some are more equal than others. So it's hard to expect that this person would somehow be subject to the rules considering his position.

    Second, what's wrong with surfing porn at work? Work is a stressful environment, and finding ways to relieve this stress is actually a productive endeavor. Many companies have put in "game rooms" with pool tables and other recreational apparatus to help employees work off some stress and be more productive at their jobs. If porn helped this senior exec relieve stress and be more productive, then it's a good deal for the agency.

    If someone is somehow offended by the viewing of porn, I suggest they give proof that they were forced to view it with the boss. Otherwise, even if they viewed it incidentally, their is no evidence that this exec was using the porn in a harassing way. If the porn itself wasn't illegal, then what's the big deal?

    1. Re:Porn at work should be encouraged by RiotingPacifist · · Score: 2, Funny
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  9. NSFw by drenehtsral · · Score: 4, Funny

    I guess they'd better create an internal division called the National Science Foundation Watchdog, or NSFW for short...

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  10. This article is misleading at best by jamie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, this is reported by the Washington Times, so you know it's not biased in the least. OK, let's take a look.

    The only substantive abuse claim here is a quote from the NSF's inspector general making a budget request to Congress. The Times article implies that "this dramatic increase," forcing fraud detection efforts to be reduced, refers to employees browsing porn.

    But that's not the case, is it. If we read the Times article very carefully, we see that the very first graf references:

    Employee misconduct investigations, often involving workers accessing pornography

    Subsequent references to "the problems," "this dramatic increase," and "the misconduct cases" are all really talking about employee misconduct as a whole, not porn surfing specifically.

    Maybe that's why this article is big on rhetoric and small on actual cases. One lengthy case is detailed on the article's first page. How much did that case cost taxpayers? "Between $13,800 and $58,000." Out of the NSF's $6.49 billion budget. That's 0.0006%.

    How often is "often"? Six times as often as before. Misconduct cases -- not porn specifically -- went from 3 in 2006, to 7 in 2007, to 10 in 2008. The Times hints repeatedly that this is a huge problem, but despite its lavish use of adjectives -- "pervasive," "swamped," "well-publicized" -- it has to report that the actual number of porn-related misconduct cases in 2008 was seven.

    Slashdot's headline "Porn Surfing Rampant" is exactly the kind of exaggeration that the Washington Times was hoping secondary media would slap on this story. "Rampant" is just not true, there's no possible way seven cases in a year can be described that way.

    If each case was as bad as the one "between $13,800 and $58,000" case that was identified, those seven cases probably cost 0.004% of the NSF's budget.

    But the Times article gets worse, moving from exaggeration to outright lies. Later, its author Jim McElhatton writes:

    The foundation's inspector general ... told Congress it was diverted from that mission by the porn cases.

    That's a flat-out lie. The OIG told Congress it was diverted by "employee misconduct," not porn. Here, read the actual budget request. (Full quote below.)

    There is one paragraph in a 7-page report that references employee misconduct, and nowhere are "porn cases" referenced. Surely some of the cost to the agency was specifically from porn-surfing misconduct. And some was not. How much? We still don't know.

    Look, any major institution, private or public, that employs a large number of people and gives them access to the internet, is going to have a few employees who abuse that access. It's ridiculous to think otherwise. Employees are capable of wasting time in a wide variety of creative ways. I daresay some employees in the private sector are wasting time reading Slashdot right at this very moment when they are nominally getting paid to do other things.

    Republicans aren't fans of science; we know that. Smearing the NSF in the media by associating their name with porn for a news cycle is a fun yuk I suppose, but for conservatives it's another shot fired in the culture war. I find it depressing. There's actual news out there; this is at best People magazine type crap.

    And it's ironic that this gets spread over the internet that the NSF helped create, and the story is brought to you thanks to the Freedom of Information Act that was passed by Democrats over the objections of Cheney, Rumsfeld and Scalia.

    Finally, as someone who 10 years ago was writing stories for Slashdot

    1. Re:This article is misleading at best by Smidge207 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Agreed, Jaime, and just to be clear, the people reportedly looking at porn were NSF staffers, not scientists. The NSF administers funding for basic research, but doesn't conduct it directly. The work is usually done at universities.

      The staffers under scrutiny were certainly acting unprofessionally and should be reprimanded or fired. But the NSF is a gem among federal programs: it funds high risk long-term research that no private company would be capable of supporting. Historically basic research pays off enormously, but the return time is very long.

      The occasional news reports on ridiculous research topics usually fail to give context for the work. Even when news reports are accurate, high-risk research has to involve occasional missteps.

      In my opinion, the long-term return on NSF spending is orders of magnitude greater than what we'll get back on military, entitlement, or even NIH spending.

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    2. Re:This article is misleading at best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Your analysis is well thought out, informative, and factually accurate.

      Are you sure you meant to post it here on slashdot?

    3. Re:This article is misleading at best by ArsonSmith · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's a scam perpetrated by the Republican created NSFW tag.

      It makes them think the link is for National Science Foundation Work.

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    4. Re:This article is misleading at best by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 5, Funny

      Slashdot's headline "Porn Surfing Rampant" is exactly the kind of exaggeration that the Washington Times was hoping secondary media would slap on this story.

      Aren't you an editor?

    5. Re:This article is misleading at best by Jaysyn · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wow, you should be an editor here or something!

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    6. Re:This article is misleading at best by GoodNicksAreTaken · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There should be a mod to 6+ (each additional mod worth 1/8 value?) when something is this insightful.

  11. 331 days? But how many minutes? by joocemann · · Score: 4, Informative

    We all know if you count your 'visits' by the day it seems to have big implications. But lets be realistic here. We all know you only visit for between 2-5 minutes.

    Erring on the high side... 5 x 331 = 1655 minutes = 27.6 hours. And if we consider it work days, (about 8 hours), then that's actually hardly over 3 days.

    Exaggerate much? Oh, but we wanted the headlines so so bad; we had to make it look big! (sarcasm)
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    And right now, somewhere, people are reading this and frowining-- all the while having recently masturbated at work. Yes, everyone's shit still stinks. Yes, we all tug it. I wonder how much human time has been wasted worrying about this petty garble; consider the average time it takes to read and the average number of slashdot headline readers and I bet we're well over 27.6 hours!

  12. I wouldn't recommend Websense by TSHTF · · Score: 5, Informative

    I wouldn't recommend Websense to anyone. They have a long history of stealth web robots which intentionally disobey the robots.txt standard.

  13. People are people by geekoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A) this is no different then what people do in some private companies

    B) That had to dig to find one extreme example

    C) They didn't define porn in this context. Is it just a random hit? I ahve hit porn site accidently while looking up job related sites. Hopefull if the record is reviewed that also not when I left the site. Which would be immediatly.

    D) Yes, this is not good, but there is no real indication of how bad it is. They make it SOUND bad, but there aren't based on any baseline.

    Of course then give an example of a guy and how much he did and then said he wasn't detected. If he wasn't detected then how would they know how much online activity they had?

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  14. Not too surprised by jonpublic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I know one of my friends told her supervisor of porn she found on her "hand me down computer" that came from the new director of a major metropolitan museum. There was no investigation, no action taken, no nothing.

    1. Re:Not too surprised by tempest69 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Your friend has a "supervisor of porn"? I'm envious

    2. Re:Not too surprised by DemonBeaver · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's a hard job...

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  15. What is it about "porn"? by heretic108 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What is it about porn that provokes such an outrage?

    If I was a manager in that organisation, I'd be putting the porn-surfing under the larger categories of "non-work activity" and "non-work-related use of NSF resources" and disciplinging employees on that basis.

    If employees did ridiculous amounts of porn-surfing, I'd be addressing matters of how they feel about their job, and whether they had a psychological issue that drove their porn addiction; at their next review I'd prescribe a course of counselling as an assessable item of job performance.

    If someone is so heavily pulled to porn, something is badly off-track in his/her life. S/he might otherwise be an excellent worker, but needing to be brought into line and pushed in a direction of emotional/psychological healing.

    What I'd like to ask is - why is it a scandal if employees wasted company resources accessing porn, but not if they waste similar resources accessing (say) medieval re-enactment sites and forums?

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    1. Re:What is it about "porn"? by Late+Adopter · · Score: 2

      I agree the outrage is disproportionate in porn cases, but there is a reason to treat it to some amount specially: avoiding a sexual harassment lawsuit.

  16. "all-pervasive"??? by 1u3hr · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "The Washington Times reports, 'The problems at the National Science Foundation (NSF) were so pervasive they swamped the agency's inspector general and forced the internal watchdog to cut back on its primary mission of investigating grant fraud

    and on page 2 it says "foundation's inspector general closed 10 employee misconduct investigations last year, up from just three in 2006. "

    Ten staff were caught, out of a total of 1200. That's "all pervasive"? It's less than 1%. That "swamped" the investigators?

    Investigate how productive these investigators are, that sounds more like the story.

    And what the hell does that phrase "senior executive who spent at least 331 days looking at pornography" mean? He spent 8 hours a day for a almost a year looking at porn? Or does it actually mean he looked at porn at least once on 331 days? Some people take a smoke break, others take a coffee break, maybe he took porn breaks. How much time did he actually waste, and is that the issue or is it "PORN"? He's an adult, everyone in the office is an adult, and if anyone had been disturbed by his habit, I'm sure we would have heard all about it.

    And on page three: The report caught the attention of Sen. Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee... Right, this story was sourced from the "ranking Republican" on the committee. So we can be sure he has no agenda to embarrass the government by turning this trivial misconduct of a dozen staff into a "scandal".

  17. Honestly, "The Washington Times reports..." enough by joggle · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I read the first three words and that was enough for me. I'm glad you took the time to specifically point out the flaws in this particular story for those who aren't familiar with the complete lack of journalistic integrity at that paper and may have otherwise taken the article seriously.

    From my point of view, it may as well be "The Onion reports..." with the only difference that it isn't intended to be haha funny but actually trying to fool you instead.

  18. I'm baffled by Ogive17 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's completely beyond my comprehension why anyone would think it's ok to surf for porn at work. Clearly common sense is no longer a factor in hiring.

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    1. Re:I'm baffled by Morpeth · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I know, it's amazing there's people here trying to say it's ok. Probably the same Generation Me types who think they're entitled to everything, are 'special' and 'unique', and feel that common sense rules don't apply to them. Here's some simple, obvious reasons why it's NOT ok.

      1) You're paid to do a job, not slack off (or jack off in this case). Do your job and quit whining about how stressful it is, blah blah blah.

      2) Porn sites are notorious for spyware, viruses, bots, keyloggers. You are putting the company's network at risk, and even worse, you could be exposing company data or other confidential information -- which could cost the company millions of dollars, damage their reputation, and hurt future business. You're also using company resources (hardware, bandwidth, etc) at their expense and NOT using it for work.

      3) "Hostile Work Environment" Many people may be offended by porn, especially women (given much of porn's nature), religious individuals etc. They would most certainly win any lawsuits especially if the company was complicit or outright condoned the behavior.

      Want to watch porn, fine... but do it at home, on your own time, with your own PC, and using your own resources.

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    2. Re:I'm baffled by Wowlapalooza · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's completely beyond my comprehension why anyone would think it's ok to surf for porn at work. Clearly common sense is no longer a factor in hiring.

      For some, it might not be so much a matter of lacking common sense, it might actually be a form of protest against the lingering Puritanism that labels "surfing porn" as such a special category in the first place.

      I would wager that far more workplace productivity is lost by people who waste their company's time by checking up on their personal finances via the web, than those few who "surf porn".

      And I would also wager that far more workplace peace and harmony is shattered by hearing objectionable political and/or social commentary from the next cube over, than could possibly be caused by the occasional glimpse of unsavory pornographic content on a coworker's monitor screen.

      "Common sense" would dictate that anything that is disruptive and/or wasteful in the workplace should be combatted and punished where found, but that we shouldn't give special attention to conduct that is sexual in nature, while turning a blind eye to other forms of workplace misconduct that are equally or more draining/damaging.

    3. Re:I'm baffled by selven · · Score: 2

      Same reason why it's ok to surf Slashdot at work.

  19. Culture War (Re:This article is misleading at best by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Republicans aren't fans of science; we know that. Smearing the NSF in the media by associating their name with porn for a news cycle is a fun yuk I suppose, but for conservatives it's another shot fired in the culture war.

    There's been a rash of reporter-based "auditing" of left-leaning organizations of late. Perhaps the left-leaning news and blogging organizations should "audit" Halliburton, Blackwater, etc. Fight fire with fire. Some will argue, however, that this would "drag the left down to the same low level".

  20. Billions and Billions... by No-Cool-Nickname · · Score: 3, Funny

    of boobs.

  21. Proof or retract by Tanktalus · · Score: 2, Funny

    Was it really porn that they were viewing? Maybe they should post the URLs (and users/passwords) so we can judge for ourselves.

  22. What nonsense hysteria by Lulu+of+the+Lotus-Ea · · Score: 2, Funny

    Give us a break: "Spent 331 days looking at porn"! This isn't the fault of the summary, the article itself has the same silliness. I am certain that the executive in question didn't *spend* 331 days looking at porn, but rather that there were 331 days *when* he looked at porn. Not sure the time interval, but even assuming a year, sure he looked at some porn every day. So what?!

    If the guy (or any employee) isn't performing is job duties, worry about that. But that's a matter of specifying duties, not of stupid prurience about pornography. It's no better if he's looking at Facebook, or Slashdot, or a vacation planning site, or (god forbid) Fox News... nor even if he's just spending all day sharpening pencils.

    I actually mostly agree that porn seems banal and boring, and fairly pointless. But unless employees expose other employees to what they're looking at unwillingly, it makes no differences whatsoever *what* someone is wasting time on. And it's not obvious that looking at porn actually means wasting time. In the real world, humans can't concentrate on work for 10 hours a day without interruption, or at least a lot of otherwise excellent employees can't. Taking little breaks to distract oneself "during work time" is just the human condition and part of our mental limits.

    1. Re:What nonsense hysteria by Fumigator · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I guess you were raised in an amoral household...? Geez can't we at least just pretend our society hasn't become completely depraved? Let me make just one more point. We all "view" porn for one reason and one reason only: the money shot. Your post suggests we should allow gov't employees to work one handed. I _really_ don't want to turn the corner and see 3 co-workers busy with this activity. I really don't. Some things just need to be kept out of the workplace!

  23. So they're trying to say that... by Noughmad · · Score: 3, Funny

    porn is NSFNSF?

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  24. And what if you don't know? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As long as watching porn doesn't impact your work or offend colleagues, then why should it be considered any worse than surfing YouTube, Facebook, or even Slashdot?

    Question automatically being: and how would you know you're not offending anyone?. That question alone is enough for me to state that I think pr0n should be banned from the office period. For all you know you are offending people but also giving them a huge dilemma with the question "Should I come forward or not?".

    Just for the record; I have experienced such a situation myself and do know what I'm talking about, I'm not some hypocrite whining "no pr0n" while secretly being the biggest surfer himself. I'm a big fan of the Neon Genesis Evangelion series, enough to keep a few backgrounds. One of them, you can see an example here (NSFW!), is a pictures one of the main characters ("Rei Ayanami", 2nd from the top) now in the form of Lillith busy in the process of, as I like to describe, "reshaping the world". You'll notice that she's nude. I really love that picture, its also being used at the back of the original sound track CD. Its not just because of the naked girl, its also because of the whole story behind that scene, the way its being drawn, the almost expressionless face and yes; I do admit that her body also is a factor in the beauty of this picture. At least IMO.

    And so here I was using this picture (amongst others, KDE multiple desktop) at the dorm where I lived with other students. It took one several months to tell me that he didn't feel comfortable at all when that background would show on my PC. Sure; this is not fully comparable since this is sort of a "home situation" but still. You can't just state that "as long as it doesn't offend people" because in most cases you wouldn't even know it.

    I sure didn't and eventually used the particular wallpaper, and desktop section, when that specific guy wasn't around. IMO things are a bit different when the whole situation is "home based" but at the office? No way, I think thats not a very social thing to do.

    1. Re:And what if you don't know? by cthulu_mt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Change it to any number of paintings by Ruebens. If the person doesn't like artistic nudity then fuck them.

      The conflation of nudity to pornography is ridiculous.

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  25. Re:Obligatory flamebait by Fumigator · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yes yes, this is all Bush's fault, and always will be. What isn't?

  26. Re:Who else is going to look at porn? by Qzukk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hey now, the scientists get to have explosions and lasers and other fun stuff. The guy watching porn every day was some poor executive schmuck whose high point of the week was improving his golf score by a point.

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  27. Not the Europeans by MosesJones · · Score: 2, Informative

    But because sex sells, the Western culture is getting increasingly positively schizophrenic about it

    Now us Brits are pretty stuck up on it, but not in the league of our American cousins who set new standards for being uptight and moralistic that make Victorian England look balanced on the subject.

    Meanwhile over the channel in France, Netherlands, Italy and lots of other countries there really isn't the same set of hang-ups. Sex is a normal thing and people who preach about it being immoral are laughed at. Hell Italy have elected a bloke who seems to come out of a Porn film, France elected a string of leader who were regularly unfaithful including their latest President who split with his wife pretty much straight after getting elected and married a super model.

    Western culture is fine, the problem is that Mid-Western culture is increasingly spreading to the rest of the US.

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