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Porn Surfing Rampant At US Science Foundation

schwit1 writes "The Washington Times reports, 'The problems at the National Science Foundation (NSF) were so pervasive they swamped the agency's inspector general and forced the internal watchdog to cut back on its primary mission of investigating grant fraud and recovering misspent tax dollars.' One senior executive at the National Science Foundation spent at least 331 days looking at pornography on his government computer, records show. The cost to taxpayers: up to $58,000. Why aren't they running a product like Websense?"

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  1. bad idea... by gandhi_2 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    no, not using gov't computers for porn. that's fine by me...

    that the guy almost used a "think of the children" defense for his actions. now THAT's fucked up.

    these young women are from poor countries and need to make money to help their parents

    1. Re:bad idea... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I find it difficult to summon moral outrage, assuming it doesn't affect job performance; but from an IT perspective there is something of a difference.

      With the proliferation of poorly vetted 3rd party ads and social network plugin "apps" and things, no class of websites is fully safe; but porn sites have a well deserved reputation for being particularly hostile and malware infested. Ideally, IT should be enough on the ball that that isn't an issue; but (especially given the number of hairy zero-day exploits and such floating around) it isn't a risk you really want to bring on yourself, if you don't have to.

    2. Re:bad idea... by jidar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Porn causes psych issues? Perhaps it just exposes them, particularly in people who judge people for looking at porn.

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    3. Re:bad idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sounds to me like he was tugging on something else.

    4. Re:bad idea... by Jaysyn · · Score: 5, Funny

      (Porn causes phych issues).

      Citation & spellchecker needed.

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    5. Re:bad idea... by mweather · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Psych issues cause problems with porn, not the other way around.

    6. Re:bad idea... by etenil · · Score: 5, Funny

      I agree with you. Each company should have its official pr0n sites list, all malware-proof and everything!

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    7. Re:bad idea... by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You should try to be more vague.

    8. Re:bad idea... by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Psych problems with other people daring to have sex (and fun in general without permission from various control freaks) have been at the root of nearly all imbecilic religious woo-woos and the subsequent witch-hunts by the fanatics of the said woo-woos since times immemorial, but they have truly and completely gone full-tilt mental with the raise of the Judeo-Christian flavours of lunacy.

      Thus it is no surprise that maiming and killing people is considered "moral" and "necessary in bringing Enlightenment, Freedom (to buy our products and make us rich) and Democracy (to elect friendly to our interests leaders)" while sex, particularly amongst younger people, is an "evil", "sin" and "immoral", to be punished, with prejudice and by extreme measures, for life (e.g. the "sexual offender lists"). Ripping a girl's hands and feet off by a 500lb bomb is a sad by-product of a "good deed", but seeing her enjoy sex is the very bottom of the pit of moral depravity.

      But because sex sells, the Western culture is getting increasingly positively schizophrenic about it, on one hand trying to please the Mammon (into worship of which all of the Judeo-Christian flavours of woo have morphed) and at the same time trying to reconcile the woo-fanatics' psychotic attitudes towards the fact that they are all mammals, no matter how much they pretend that evolution did not occur.

      And if you add to this the fact that other branches of Judeo-Christian idiocy, i.e. the Muslim-medieval kind, are even more rabidly insane, the majority of human societies on Earth are, to use a topic-relevant term: fucked up beyond description, with no relief in sight.

  2. Best Intentions by bugeaterr · · Score: 5, Funny

    It all started out as innocent research on "Black Holes" and "Uranus"...

    1. Re:Best Intentions by Kadagan+AU · · Score: 5, Funny

      I believe they were actually looking for items with the tag "National Science Foundation Website" (nsfw), but found things they hadn't planned on.

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  3. This article is misleading at best by jamie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, this is reported by the Washington Times, so you know it's not biased in the least. OK, let's take a look.

    The only substantive abuse claim here is a quote from the NSF's inspector general making a budget request to Congress. The Times article implies that "this dramatic increase," forcing fraud detection efforts to be reduced, refers to employees browsing porn.

    But that's not the case, is it. If we read the Times article very carefully, we see that the very first graf references:

    Employee misconduct investigations, often involving workers accessing pornography

    Subsequent references to "the problems," "this dramatic increase," and "the misconduct cases" are all really talking about employee misconduct as a whole, not porn surfing specifically.

    Maybe that's why this article is big on rhetoric and small on actual cases. One lengthy case is detailed on the article's first page. How much did that case cost taxpayers? "Between $13,800 and $58,000." Out of the NSF's $6.49 billion budget. That's 0.0006%.

    How often is "often"? Six times as often as before. Misconduct cases -- not porn specifically -- went from 3 in 2006, to 7 in 2007, to 10 in 2008. The Times hints repeatedly that this is a huge problem, but despite its lavish use of adjectives -- "pervasive," "swamped," "well-publicized" -- it has to report that the actual number of porn-related misconduct cases in 2008 was seven.

    Slashdot's headline "Porn Surfing Rampant" is exactly the kind of exaggeration that the Washington Times was hoping secondary media would slap on this story. "Rampant" is just not true, there's no possible way seven cases in a year can be described that way.

    If each case was as bad as the one "between $13,800 and $58,000" case that was identified, those seven cases probably cost 0.004% of the NSF's budget.

    But the Times article gets worse, moving from exaggeration to outright lies. Later, its author Jim McElhatton writes:

    The foundation's inspector general ... told Congress it was diverted from that mission by the porn cases.

    That's a flat-out lie. The OIG told Congress it was diverted by "employee misconduct," not porn. Here, read the actual budget request. (Full quote below.)

    There is one paragraph in a 7-page report that references employee misconduct, and nowhere are "porn cases" referenced. Surely some of the cost to the agency was specifically from porn-surfing misconduct. And some was not. How much? We still don't know.

    Look, any major institution, private or public, that employs a large number of people and gives them access to the internet, is going to have a few employees who abuse that access. It's ridiculous to think otherwise. Employees are capable of wasting time in a wide variety of creative ways. I daresay some employees in the private sector are wasting time reading Slashdot right at this very moment when they are nominally getting paid to do other things.

    Republicans aren't fans of science; we know that. Smearing the NSF in the media by associating their name with porn for a news cycle is a fun yuk I suppose, but for conservatives it's another shot fired in the culture war. I find it depressing. There's actual news out there; this is at best People magazine type crap.

    And it's ironic that this gets spread over the internet that the NSF helped create, and the story is brought to you thanks to the Freedom of Information Act that was passed by Democrats over the objections of Cheney, Rumsfeld and Scalia.

    Finally, as someone who 10 years ago was writing stories for Slashdot

    1. Re:This article is misleading at best by Smidge207 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Agreed, Jaime, and just to be clear, the people reportedly looking at porn were NSF staffers, not scientists. The NSF administers funding for basic research, but doesn't conduct it directly. The work is usually done at universities.

      The staffers under scrutiny were certainly acting unprofessionally and should be reprimanded or fired. But the NSF is a gem among federal programs: it funds high risk long-term research that no private company would be capable of supporting. Historically basic research pays off enormously, but the return time is very long.

      The occasional news reports on ridiculous research topics usually fail to give context for the work. Even when news reports are accurate, high-risk research has to involve occasional missteps.

      In my opinion, the long-term return on NSF spending is orders of magnitude greater than what we'll get back on military, entitlement, or even NIH spending.

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    2. Re:This article is misleading at best by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 5, Funny

      Slashdot's headline "Porn Surfing Rampant" is exactly the kind of exaggeration that the Washington Times was hoping secondary media would slap on this story.

      Aren't you an editor?

    3. Re:This article is misleading at best by Jaysyn · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wow, you should be an editor here or something!

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  4. I wouldn't recommend Websense by TSHTF · · Score: 5, Informative

    I wouldn't recommend Websense to anyone. They have a long history of stealth web robots which intentionally disobey the robots.txt standard.

  5. Re:Not too surprised by tempest69 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your friend has a "supervisor of porn"? I'm envious

  6. "all-pervasive"??? by 1u3hr · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "The Washington Times reports, 'The problems at the National Science Foundation (NSF) were so pervasive they swamped the agency's inspector general and forced the internal watchdog to cut back on its primary mission of investigating grant fraud

    and on page 2 it says "foundation's inspector general closed 10 employee misconduct investigations last year, up from just three in 2006. "

    Ten staff were caught, out of a total of 1200. That's "all pervasive"? It's less than 1%. That "swamped" the investigators?

    Investigate how productive these investigators are, that sounds more like the story.

    And what the hell does that phrase "senior executive who spent at least 331 days looking at pornography" mean? He spent 8 hours a day for a almost a year looking at porn? Or does it actually mean he looked at porn at least once on 331 days? Some people take a smoke break, others take a coffee break, maybe he took porn breaks. How much time did he actually waste, and is that the issue or is it "PORN"? He's an adult, everyone in the office is an adult, and if anyone had been disturbed by his habit, I'm sure we would have heard all about it.

    And on page three: The report caught the attention of Sen. Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee... Right, this story was sourced from the "ranking Republican" on the committee. So we can be sure he has no agenda to embarrass the government by turning this trivial misconduct of a dozen staff into a "scandal".

  7. Re:Spent or did during? by MBGMorden · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Once we get past "surfed porn at work", the number of hours seems more relvent than the number of days.

    You know very well that the guy was doing what reporters do best: quoting whatever statistic would sound more shocking. 20 hours doesn't sound nearly as bad to an audience as 331 days.

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