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Exoplanet Has Showers of Pebbles

mmmscience writes "The newly-discovered exoplanet COROT-7b has an unusual form of precipitation: rocks. Because it orbits so close to its sun, the temperature on its sun-facing side is around 4220 degrees Fahrenheit. That's hot enough for rocks to vaporize — not unlike water evaporating on Earth. And, like Earth, when the vapor cools in the upper atmosphere, it forms clouds and begins to rain. But instead of water, COROT-7b gets a shower of pebbles."

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  1. Wow by clone53421 · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's pretty cool, in a geeky sort of way.

    I wish I could see it... but I don't think the environment would be terribly friendly to my sensitive skin.

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    1. Re:Wow by geoffrobinson · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, I'm part Irish too. I can't stand being in the Sun/insert favorite star here.

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    2. Re:Wow by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's pretty cool, in a geeky sort of way.

      I wish I could see it... but I don't think the environment would be terribly friendly to my sensitive skin.

      Break out the SPF 15000000 and put it on with a trowel.

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    3. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      RoboCop! What do I win?!

    4. Re:Wow by Reaperducer · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ironic?

      No, Ms. Morissette. Just coincidental.

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    5. Re:Wow by Rei · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The planet is tidally locked. Just stay on the dark side of the planet. The equilibrium temperature there is 59F -- not bad at all.

      One thing that occurs to me is that if the mass transfer rate is as high as they're suggesting -- and I have no reason to suspect otherwise -- it seems to me that this planet would be *highly* tectonically active. Unlike rain, which just runs off, the pebbles will stick around where they fall. This means that the crust will have a lot of weight bearing down on it on the cold side, sinking into the mantle and likely leading to heavy volcanism and tectonic activity. And the erosion of the hot side should lead to an upwelling of exposed mantle material as the planet tries to relax into a sphere.

      The awesome thing is, with such a reasonable temperature on the cool side, it could actually be habitable to LAWKI -- except for that likely lack of water thing, (unless there's been heavy cometary activity since the planet became tidally locked).

      This planet must have an incredible range of minerals, way unlike anything on Earth -- the star basically mining the crust and even mantle on one side and depositing it after chemical vapor deposition onto the other side. If we ever go interstellar as a species, I wouldn't be surprised to see heavy mining activity on planets like that.

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    6. Re:Wow by Rei · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Oh, and sweet -- Some more highlights after further reading:

      "Sodium, potassium, silicon monoxide and then oxygen -- either atomic or molecular oxygen -- make up most of the atmosphere." But there are also smaller amounts of the other elements found in silicate rock, such as magnesium, aluminum, calcium and iron. ... As you go higher the atmosphere gets cooler and eventually you get saturated with different types of 'rock' the way you get saturated with water in the atmosphere of Earth ... Elemental sodium and potassium, which have very low boiling points in comparison with rocks, do not rain out but would instead stay in the atmosphere, where they would form high gas clouds buffeted by the stellar wind from COROT-7.

      So... the only one of those things that will be a gas at the surface on the far side is oxygen. The article says the atmosphere may not be breathable, but I have to wonder... why not?

      Also, in the case what what condenses in the atmosphere is crystaline (I don't see anywhere which suggests whether they would be or not -- it all depends on how fast it cools), look at the list of the raining minerals:

      enstatite, corundum, spinel, and wollastonite.

      Enstatite can be a gemstone. Crystals of corundum are otherwise known as ruby and sapphire. There are many types of spinels, a number of whose crystals are considered gemstones. Etc. So *if* what condenses is crystalline, it could literally be raining gems on that planet.

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    7. Re:Wow by nacturation · · Score: 2, Funny

      Anyone not wearing one million sunblock is going to have a real bad day, get it?

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    8. Re:Wow by jamstar7 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So... the only one of those things that will be a gas at the surface on the far side is oxygen. The article says the atmosphere may not be breathable, but I have to wonder... why not?

      Metals poisoning, I'm thinking. When was the last time you tried to breathe some iron?

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    9. Re:Wow by Gerzel · · Score: 2, Informative

      With the rain of pebbles it might never form a hard crust but instead be a ball of semi-loose material with a liquid core. There would probably be a "hard" concrete like layer but nothing on the order of tectonic plates so it may be able to form into a sphere rather rapidly constantly shifting so that the shift isn't as noticeable. You might not even see earthquakes there, as the rain would cause more than enough vibration that the underlying shifting of the inner planet would be lost in the noise.

    10. Re:Wow by Gerzel · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or ultra fine crystal shards and glass...lots and lots of dust I think would get your lungs long before the metals would poison your lungs.

    11. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      ok....

      Gasmask... CHECK!
      Safety Goggles.... CHECK!
      FTL Drive.... Oh Dang.

    12. Re:Wow by camperdave · · Score: 2, Informative
      I always took it as an expression of sarcasm.

      From Wikipedia

      Verbal irony is a disparity of expression and intention: when a speaker says one thing but means another, or when a literal meaning is contrary to its intended effect. An example of this is sarcasm.

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    13. Re:Wow by ascari · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So *if* what condenses is crystalline, it could literally be raining gems on that planet.

      Thanks a bunch, dude! Now that you told the effing world about it every punk in the galaxy will come flying bucket in hand. (tentacle/suction cup/etc) Why exactly do you think we stressed the "unbreathable atmosphere" etc? Thanks again, buddy.

  2. Not unusual by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    We get solid precipitation here on earth all the time.

    Sometimes it's hail, sometimes sleet.

    The best is frogs, though.

    1. Re:Not unusual by Thelasko · · Score: 5, Insightful

      We get solid precipitation here on earth all the time.

      The parent raises a good point. How do we know the rock comes back down to the surface as a solid? Why doesn't it rain lava?

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    2. Re:Not unusual by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Informative

      The parent raises a good point. How do we know the rock comes back down to the surface as a solid? Why doesn't it rain lava?

      I'm going to make an educated guess, and say it's in the same way we "know" that it rains any kind of rock at all -- because that's what the simulations said. It says they even varied constraints based on not knowing exactly what the composition of the planet is, but they kept ending up with the same basic result.

      So it all comes down to how good the simulation model is. It's possible it's inaccurate in a way that it is right that there is rock-based precipitation, but that it's in liquid form, but I certainly have no idea.

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    3. Re:Not unusual by Cruciform · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm just glad it doesn't rain horses.

    4. Re:Not unusual by fireslack · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Am I the only one who is deeply impressed that we even KNOW a planet is there? It is difficult to observe Mercury because of its proximity to the sun, but we can see a planet that is 1.7 Earth radii, 42 light years away, and is so close to its parent star, it has an orbital period of 20 hours. Hours! That means it is insanely close to its star. Solid rock or lava be damned. How about a pat on the back for finding any exoplanets at all?

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    5. Re:Not unusual by dargaud · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's probably because it passes in front of its sun at every orbit, and we can see the noticeable difference in luminosity. Mercury rarely goes in front of the sun and the luminosity difference is in the epsilon range.

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    6. Re:Not unusual by dargaud · · Score: 2, Informative

      There are several planetary detection methods and 'transit' is indeed one of them.

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    7. Re:Not unusual by QuoteMstr · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Absolutely right. What we consider liquid and solid depends on our local environment. In the outer planets of our solar system, water is a rock. It behaves just like rocks here on Earth do: it faults tectonically, crystallizes in various forms, and differentiates into crust, mantle, and core. These bodies have "hydro-"logical cycles made up of methane, which is normally a gas for us.

      It's not unusual at all for something we consider to a be a "rock" actually form the hydrological cycle for a much warmer body.

  3. Summary inaccurate by JoshuaZ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is a hypothesized event. The evidence for it is slim based primarily on modeling. While this is really cool if correct, one needs to understand that this isn't by any means a slam dunk.

    1. Re:Summary inaccurate by clone53421 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      True. Also, I'm wondering if "pebbles" is an appropriate description of the condensed rock or if it wouldn't be more aptly described as "sand" or even "dust". Raindrops stick together; depending on how quickly the rock condenses, it might not have time to grow very large. (Then again, it could grow like hail, if the rock was in the liquid state for any significant amount of time.)

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    2. Re:Summary inaccurate by Sockatume · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To be fair, the original press release also mangles observed and simulated results like crazy. They've definitely found the exoplanet and determined its orbit and mass. They've either confirmed or hypothesised from simulation that there are no volatile compounds on or around the planet, which they hypothesise is due to bake-out. They've hypothesised based on simulations that it is likely to have a rock-based atmosphere which, depending on composition, could be verified spectroscopically.

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    3. Re:Summary inaccurate by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah. "Pebbles" is probably inaccurate. I find it hard to believe the hypothesis that there are storms on this planet where redheaded female pre-historic babies with pony tails fall out of the sky.

    4. Re:Summary inaccurate by Thanshin · · Score: 2, Informative

      While this is really cool if correct, one needs to understand that this isn't by any means a slam dunk.

      Well, it does come quite close to being a "slam dunk".

  4. Flintstones by SirLoadALot · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is just like on the Flintstones, where everything is made out of stone -- because it's the Stone Age, silly! Further research will reveal the pterodactyl airplanes, I'm sure.

  5. Related to the current poll ? by slashmatteo · · Score: 5, Informative

    "the temperature on its sun-facing side is around 4220 degrees Fahrenheit." For anyone using the SI, this is about 2327 degrees Celsius

    1. Re:Related to the current poll ? by eln · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thanks for the conversion...I never know what to wear when they give the temperature in Fahrenheit. Thanks to your post, though, I now know I won't need to pack a jacket while visiting this planet.

    2. Re:Related to the current poll ? by JohnHegarty · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or 2599 kelvin

      Or the heat from burning 2 library's on congress.

      Anyone know what it is in elephants ?

    3. Re:Related to the current poll ? by strateego · · Score: 3, Informative

      I believe that SI unit for temperature is kelvin. So 4220 degrees Fahrenheit is approximately 2600 degree Kelvin. Fixed it for you. No need to thank me.

    4. Re:Related to the current poll ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Anyone know what it is in elephants ?"

      African or Indian?

    5. Re:Related to the current poll ? by Yvan256 · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's 5418 libraries of congress.

    6. Re:Related to the current poll ? by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Funny

      Or the heat from burning 2 library's on congress.

      Do libraries burn differently on congress than anywhere else?

    7. Re:Related to the current poll ? by JustOK · · Score: 4, Funny

      Thanks,and stop calling me Kelvin

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    8. Re:Related to the current poll ? by gsslay · · Score: 4, Funny

      I now know I won't need to pack a jacket while visiting this planet.

      Please yourself. But I'll be taking my tungsten jacket (melting point 3422 Celcius, 6192 Fahrenheit).

      You know, the one my grandmother bought me..... with the hood and the double pleated asbestos lining? I don't care if you've never liked it and it doesn't match my shoes, I'm wearing it.

    9. Re:Related to the current poll ? by clone53421 · · Score: 4, Funny

      So 4220 degrees Fahrenheit is approximately 2600 degree Kelvin. Fixed it for you.
      is approximately 2600 degree Kelvin
      degree Kelvin

      Fail. Hand in your geek card.

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    10. Re:Related to the current poll ? by Kjella · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yep, there's so much hot air there they burn way better.

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    11. Re:Related to the current poll ? by camperdave · · Score: 2, Funny

      x=x-273.15 ?
      DOES NOT COMPUTE.


      Not a programmer, are you?

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    12. Re:Related to the current poll ? by Trogre · · Score: 3, Funny

      Shirley you can't be Sirius?

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  6. Rock Rainbows? by MarkRose · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Given that different material will have different melting temperatures, that should lead to the different metals coalescing at different heights. At sunset, there ought to be a layering affect as the last rocks fall back to the surface, a rock rainbow in effect. Of course, it probably won't last long with the whole planet being molten.

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    1. Re:Rock Rainbows? by Gotung · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not to rain on your rainbow parade, but any planet that close to its star is likely tidally locked.

      So no sunset.

    2. Re:Rock Rainbows? by Jerf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I would also observe that "molten rock" is not famous for its transparency, let alone "gaseous rock". It may be an "atmosphere", but there won't be anybody observing any sort of "rainbow". The word "atmosphere" may be deceptive in this context; think less "open sky" and more "sea of blindingly hot lava so hot it's gaseous, not that you have any reason to care about this distinction".

  7. Why were you late for school? by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Funny

    Teacher: Why are you late?
    Student 1: I was throwing pebbles in the pond.
    Teacher: (to student #2) Why are you late?
    Student 2: I was throwing pebbles in the pond.
    Teacher: (to student #3) Let me guess - you were throwing pebbles in the pond too?
    Student 3: I'm Pebbles.

    1. Re:Why were you late for school? by jlintern · · Score: 2, Funny

      Teacher: Why are you late? Student 1: I was on top of Cherry Hill. Teacher: (to student #2) Why are you late? Student 2: I was on top of Cherry Hill. Teacher: (to student #3) Let me guess - you were on Cherry Hill too? Student 3: I'm Cherry.

    2. Re:Why were you late for school? by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

      So Pebbles got BamBammed?

  8. 50% chance of rocking out! by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Funny

    It is nearly impossible to imagine a deluge of pebbles falling from the sky, or turning on the morning forecast to hear reports of "rocking" instead of "raining."

    Oh I can imagine it. You see dark clouds roll in, crowding around. In the distance but growing louder, the rapid heavy percussion of the rock shower begins. Then in the cloud at the front, you see a flash of light and a shower of sparks like a pyrotechnic burst. Seconds later, instead of a crash of thunder, you hear the wail of an electric guitar.

    It is now rocking. Rocking hard core.

    This is the awesomest planet ever.

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    1. Re:50% chance of rocking out! by snoig · · Score: 2, Funny

      Must be a Hotblack Desiato concert.

  9. Re:Do we send the religious fundamentalists there? by clone53421 · · Score: 2, Funny

    No, they wouldn't be able to stand the constant rock music drumming on the roof.

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  10. Solid precipitation and dinnerplate planets by SMoynihan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Having read TFA, I am interested why the authors hypothesise that the precipitation is as solid rocks. Intuitively, it would make more sense that it would be in a liquid phase (while I have no idea of what pressures would exist on the planet, and am no geologist, liquid rocks seem to exist across temperature ranges in excess of 100's of degrees here on earth.) Admittedly, the article does seems to imply that there is no rotation of the planet, and thus gaseous rock migrating to the super-cold side might (possibly) precipitate rapidly. In fact, would this imply that there is a large scale migration of rock from the sunward side of the planet to that opposed to the sun (and would this in turn alter the fundamental planet shape? I envisage dinnerplate planets...)

    1. Re:Solid precipitation and dinnerplate planets by Shotgun · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I would expect that the elements/molecules with higher melting points would migrate to the sunward side, while more volatile stuff would end up in the shadows. Would you have something like a "shield" of aluminum oxide guarding an ocean of iron?

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    2. Re:Solid precipitation and dinnerplate planets by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Unless the planet is very small, no matter where or how you move material around, it's going to return to a roughly spherical shape, regardless. In fact, a big part of the definition of "planet" is some mass large enough that gravity forces it into a sphere.

      Now, you could imagine a planet where this front-to-back migration actually stirs the planet. That would be cool.

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  11. Obligatory S*P reference by emurphy42 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ROCKS FALL! EVERYONE DIES!

  12. Fallout by mbone · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That has happened on Earth too. We call it Fallout.

    I am not kidding. A surface nuclear burst in the megaton range will vaporize millions of tons of rock and soil. This material will cool, condense, and and fall as
    little pebbles or hail. In this case, it's radioactive, but otherwise the physics is the same.

    1. Re:Fallout by mk_is_here · · Score: 5, Interesting

      To enjoy a natural one, without the radioactive waste, all you need is a volcano eruption.

  13. Re:The sky is falling? by LanMan04 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The sky is falling?

    More like the ground is falling...from the sky.

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  14. Meanwhile on COROT-7b by JohnHegarty · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Meanwhile on COROT-7b scientists find a new planet so cold that water would actually create "oceans" on the surface , and even freeze at the poles.

    They laugh at the though ever existing on that planet.

    1. Re:Meanwhile on COROT-7b by iprefermuffins · · Score: 5, Funny

      t of life

      Here, you dropped this.

  15. Reality Stranger than Fiction by gpronger · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My first reaction was that this (assuming the theory is correct) is about as cool of a discovery - concept I've read about in a long time. At the same time it brings to point a thought that one of the problems with popular Sci-Fi is that it misses on potential of "stuff" "out-there" (space) being wilder and different (including life) than we've yet to imagine.

    If you consider the variety of habitats that we find life in our tiny part of the cosmos (Earth) and that life keeps being discovered in more and bizarre places (by human standards) when you extrapolate that out, I tend to think it may be literally beyond our imagination.

    If we, by whatever means, met intelligent life, would we be able to communicate; sure math is universal, but consider the issues communicating ideas and values across cultures when its the same species. Consider a collective consciousness, what does the term "I" or "me" mean to it (them).

  16. Really? by swanzilla · · Score: 2, Insightful
    FTA:

    It is nearly impossible to imagine a deluge of pebbles falling from the sky, or turning on the morning forecast to hear reports of âoerockingâ instead of âoeraining.â

    Does this seem difficult to imagine, let alone nearly impossible?
    Imagine, if you can, something somewhere else very similar to something standard here!

  17. Titinians say the same thing about Earth by SloWave · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm sure the methane based party animals on Titan also point to Earth and oooh and aaah about how solid H2O actually melts, vaporizes, and falls from the sky as rain, hail, and snow under the tremendous heat we have here.

    1. Re:Titinians say the same thing about Earth by captainClassLoader · · Score: 4, Funny

      Of course! Everything is made of Uranium on uranus, of Plutonium on Pluto, and Titanium on Titan. And Hafnium on the planet Haf, but that hasn't been discovered yet.

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  18. Re:The sky is falling? by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

    So it's like Australia?

  19. Let's not exaggerate by slyborg · · Score: 4, Informative

    Some hyperbole here.

    The Castle Bravo test shot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Bravo) was one of the largest thermonuclear detonations ever, with an estimated yield of 15-22 MT. The blast crater from Bravo was 2000m in diameter and 75m deep. Assuming it was square because I'm too lazy for math today, that's about 300,000 cubic meters. Assuming that this was blasted in solid granite (http://www.allmeasures.com/Formulae/static/materials/32/density.htm) you get about 780k metric tons.

    However, most of this material wasn't vaporized, it was pulverized by the shock wave and propelled as a solid into the mushroom cloud. The actual quantity of material melted I wouldn't hazard to estimate, but it was a small proportion of the overall material excavated.

    Much as in the "it's raining rocks!" planet, this precipitation would be much closer in form to dust, not "pebbles". One of the reason that water on earth comes in larger forms is that the water molecule has a charge, and will aggregate electrostatically. I don't think that would be true of this silicate cloud.

    1. Re:Let's not exaggerate by Sockatume · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually a 75m section of a 2000m cylinder, from pi * r^2 * depth comes out at about 200 MILLION cubic metres. Multiply that by about two metric tonnes per cubic metre (sandstone) and you get four hundred million metric tonnes. I can't be bothered to account for the curvature of the crater, but I doubt it'll bring that down much under a hundred million tonnes. There's still the "vapourisation versus excavation" question, of course, I'm just pointing out that your estimate of mass is off by three orders of magnitude.

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    2. Re:Let's not exaggerate by Sockatume · · Score: 2, Interesting

      From underground nuclear tests, the "melt cavity" created by vaporization of rock and the flow of liquefied rock is about 2000 cubic metres per kiloton, so the OP's estimate is about right, assuming one half of the energy is lost to the air by a surface explosion.

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    3. Re:Let's not exaggerate by bcmm · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Tsar Bomba was an airburst, although the 5-mile-wide fireball did (just) make contact with the ground. Castle Bravo was a groundburst. There is rock on the ground, but not in the air.

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  20. Re:first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    bite it noobs

    forgot to check the AC box? noob!

  21. I'm Singing in the OW! OW! by wiredog · · Score: 5, Funny

    ow!

  22. A more informative writeup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
  23. geologist's hot dating destination? by polishphorce · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...and if you like pina coladas and getting bludgeoned in the rain...

  24. Conveyor-belt planet by FriendlyPrimate · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What I find interesting about this planet is that it's tidally locked with it's star, so one side is over 4000F, while the other is -370F. That could imply that the surface continuously evaporates on the hot side and condenses out of the atmosphere on the cold side. So the planet is essentially a conveyor belt always in the process of being destroyed and created. The contents of the entire planet could have gone through this process many times already.

    1. Re:Conveyor-belt planet by FriendlyPrimate · · Score: 3, Informative

      No, because it's still a closed system. The solid contents of the planet are continually moving towards the sun (the freshly-deposited rock is always pushing the older rock towards the hot side via gravity) But the overall center of gravity of the planet never changes position relative to the star since the momentum of the solid part of the planet is counteracted by the momentum of the atmosphere moving in the opposite direction. So the planet itself always stays the same distance away from the star.

    2. Re:Conveyor-belt planet by FriendlyPrimate · · Score: 3, Informative

      BTW....this is related to the process that is thought to occur on most tidally-locked rocky planets. They likely do not have atmospheres, since it entirely sublimates on to the cold side of the planet. When the atmosphere freezes out on the cold side, it reduces the atmospheric pressure on the cold side, which causes the atmosphere on the hot side to flow to the cold side, repeating the process until the entire atmosphere is gone. But in this particular case, the 'atmosphere' is getting continuously replaced through evaporation of the planet itself. This process is also one of the reasons why planets around red dwarf stars may be unlikely, since the planet has to be close to the star to receive enough energy from it, but being that close to the star increases the likely-hood of it becoming tidally locked with the star.

  25. Re:Non-migratory by Shotgun · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In this case, yes. The planet would be tidal locked, due to its proximity to the sun. Less volatile components would be the first to boil off into a gaseous state. There would be a "wind" that carries the gaseous components around to the shadowed side of the planet, where it would cool and fall. Repeat for a few million years, and you'd have a nice stratisfication based on volatililty (or lack thereof).

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  26. Oops by justthinkit · · Score: 4, Informative
    The planet is tidally locked. Just stay on the dark side of the planet. The equilibrium temperature there is 59F -- not bad at all.

    This star-facing side has a temperature of about 2600 degrees Kelvin (4220 degrees Fahrenheit). That's infernally hothot enough to vaporize rocks. The global average temperature of Earth's surface, in contrast, is only about 288 degrees Kelvin (59 degrees Fahrenheit).

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    1. Re:Oops by Gerzel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah but how big is it? Without Atmosphere it can get very small to basically non existent.

  27. Re:FYI, about Kelvin by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 3, Informative

    Since Kelvin is indicated just by the K, no degree sign, there should be no need to post the degree sign. "Degrees Kelvin" is a misunderstanding of the system of units.

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  28. Why the long face, little bear? by spun · · Score: 2, Insightful

    To this, let me just add, that low UID trolls are still trolls.

    No we aren't. We're "offtopic" which never comes up for metamod, and thus shields the moderator from the presumed risk of modding us down, but does not effect our massive karma. But we don't get treated that way because we're better than you, it's simply because you aren't as good as us.

    But I wasn't even trying to "troll," this time. I was trying to make a "joke." "Sorry" to have "offended" you. I just think overuse of "quotation marks" is "hilarious."

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