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First Black Hole For Light Created On Earth

An anonymous reader writes "An electromagnetic 'black hole' that sucks in surrounding light has been built for the first time. The device, which works at microwave frequencies, may soon be extended to trap visible light, leading to an entirely new way of harvesting solar energy to generate electricity. A theoretical design for a table-top black hole to trap light was proposed in a paper published earlier this year by Evgenii Narimanov and Alexander Kildishev of Purdue University in West Lafayette, Indiana. Their idea was to mimic the properties of a cosmological black hole, whose intense gravity bends the surrounding space-time, causing any nearby matter or radiation to follow the warped space-time and spiral inwards."

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  1. Gotta say ... by ScaledLizard · · Score: 5, Funny

    That sucks ...

  2. First priority. by HungryHobo · · Score: 5, Informative

    They need to stop calling it a black hole or the ignorant masses will decide it's going to end the world.

    1. Re:First priority. by SpeedyDX · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But then how would they get their free publicity and 15 minutes?!

    2. Re:First priority. by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Welcome to the presentation of our next project, The Nightbringer."

    3. Re:First priority. by Zebra_X · · Score: 5, Informative

      For sure... and it's not a black hole. It's a very well designed waveguide that is able to channel microwaves to an absorbant material without re-radiating any of the incoming energy.

    4. Re:First priority. by ms1234 · · Score: 3, Funny

      They could call it a brown hole?

    5. Re:First priority. by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 5, Funny

      They need to stop calling it a black hole or the ignorant masses will decide it's going to end the world.

      In the current uber-politically correct climate, they're more likely to lose their funding after being accused of racism.

    6. Re:First priority. by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny

      As long as the dolphins are still here, we're safe.

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    7. Re:First priority. by hitnrunrambler · · Score: 5, Funny

      Now is only the could work in Cold Fusion and Death Panels!

      Now is only the could work in sentence structure!

      Apologies if you made this post without the aid of caffeine... or if you're quoting verbatim from Palin's blog (which I kinda doubted at first since it uses the words "cold fusion" but that COULD be some obscure Alaskan sexual practise)

    8. Re:First priority. by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 3, Funny

      Call it cold fusion.
      Say it harnesses zero-point energy.
      Put porn in their research.

    9. Re:First priority. by sleeponthemic · · Score: 3, Funny

      If they stop it's still an elephant in the room. Since this is never going to go away, I think I side with the idea of continual misuse of this term, thus encouraging a public view more akin to the boy who cried wolf. Once we get there, we can actually make the black hole that destroys earth, in peace.

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    10. Re:First priority. by omnichad · · Score: 2, Funny

      The LHC was just waiting for the right time... ;-)

    11. Re:First priority. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Simply call it "Electromagnetic Sponge"

    12. Re:First priority. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      First priority: Install one above every street light so we can get our lovely speckled black skies back. :)

    13. Re:First priority. by MadKeithV · · Score: 2, Funny

      Or the Lightmaid.
      Just don't flick the switch from "suck" to "blow".

    14. Re:First priority. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Thought it was haiku
      Too many syllables though
      So I guess it's not

    15. Re:First priority. by PitaBred · · Score: 3, Funny

      As long as they haven't figured out the brown note, we're all safe

  3. Re:uhhh... how much energy does it take? by FTWinston · · Score: 4, Funny

    How much energy does it "take?" Its a metamaterial structure, and the refractive properties are caused by its shape alone.

    That said, all that incident EM radiation is gonna really heat it up ... so if you were going to put a solar panel in the middle, as the article describes, then it will likely require cooling if its placed in bright conditions.

    Unless they're very clever with creating it, such that only wavelengths usable by the solar panel are refracted into the centre. Anyway, if they think they can do that by the end of 2009, can they make me a man-sized invisible hamsterball? Invisible zorbing would be an interesting experience.

  4. Re:uhhh... how much energy does it take? by Thanshin · · Score: 3, Funny

    can they make me a man-sized invisible hamsterball? Invisible zorbing would be an interesting experience.

    Actually it would be a black hamsterball.

    And if that's the objective for 2009, it's quite easier to achieve by simply painting it black. Anyway, you'll just end up with a pretty pissed off hamster.

  5. It's an interesting development.... by jcochran · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But I have definite issues with the last paragraph of the article

    Such a device could be used to harvest solar energy in places where the light is too diffuse for mirrors to concentrate it onto a solar cell. An optical black hole would suck it all in and direct it at a solar cell sitting at the core. "If that works, you will no longer require these huge parabolic mirrors to collect light," says Narimanov.

    The article gives no indication that light passing near the device will get sucked into it, but only that all light hitting the device gets sucked into the center. So instead of requiring those huge parabolic mirrors, you'll instead require these huge cylindrical structures. Would still have a nice advantage in that no tracking or steering devices would be required since light hitting it from any side gets "sucked in", but it would still require a considerable amount of real estate to deploy assuming that they can both scale it down (to handle visible light) and scale it up (to make the amount of light absorbed represent a non-trivial amount of power).

  6. Re:Shouldn't we give the Cui and Cheng more credit by PeterM+from+Berkeley · · Score: 4, Funny

    Interesting culture you've got there. Where I work the theorists/computational groups find the experimentalists indispensible and vice versa. The experimentalists provide the grounding in reality and provide the final fruition of all the theory/computer work. The theory+computation guides the experiments and increases the odds that the experiments'll work the first time out. Everyone's better off, and everyone knows it, with the exception of just one guy who's generally hard to deal with anyway (even the other experimentalists don't get on with him.)

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  7. Re:It was nice to have known you guys by CODiNE · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't worry, the universe itself will travel back and time and prevent it. Think about it... Mr. Universe... time travel. It's Arnold. He's the one stopping the LHC.

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  8. Re:uhhh... how much energy does it take? by Interoperable · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know why a huge amount of a nano-structured meta-material would be cheaper to make than a large mirror. The device is interesting in it's own right but the application to solar power is a real stretch. It seems like every advance has to claim to be a step on the way to curing cancer or solving the energy crisis to get any attention. Even the article about magnetic monopole quasi-particles tied it back to applications to computing...possible but that certainly isn't why the discovery is interesting.

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  9. I am curious by badass+fish · · Score: 2, Interesting

    i wonder if they checked for gravity/mass/time disturbances?

  10. Black Hole for Light by Neutral_Observer · · Score: 2, Funny

    The first Black Hole invented by man is called Government.

  11. Re:Wow by HeLLFiRe1151 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Where can I see it?

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  12. Oh whatever... by KermitJunior · · Score: 2

    Tell me it has Ten Chevrons around it and THEN I'll be impressed.

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  13. Fresnel Lens by olsmeister · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Narimanov and Kildishev reasoned that it should be possible to build a device that makes light curve inwards towards its centre in a similar way. They calculated that this could be done by a cylindrical structure consisting of a central core surrounded by a shell of concentric rings.

    Superficially, sounds kind of like a Fresnel lens.

  14. Don't bother RTFA... by PinkyDead · · Score: 3, Funny

    There's nothing to see.

    Ha! I crack myself up.

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  15. Re:Wow by Rip+Dick · · Score: 3, Funny

    It certainly works where your mom is concerned.

  16. Re:uhhh... how much energy does it take? by Captain+Hook · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I doubt it would be cheaper to make, but a mirror reflects light from one direction and if you have concave shape focuses that light at a certain point, but for that to work the light has to be entering from the right direction relative to the focus point (normal straight in the front but doesn't necessarily have to be

    This system would work regardless of which direction the light enters from, which means it works under very difuse light source. It also means you don't need a tracking system to keep the mirror at the right angle relative to the sun which would make installation and maintenance costs lower than a tracking mirror system.

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  17. Re:Hello darkness by oldspewey · · Score: 3, Funny

    and she's buying the stairway to heaven ...

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  18. Re:uhhh... how much energy does it take? by Painted · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It replaces the large, parabolic mirror which has a bunch of steering gear with a large, metamaterial collector that requires none. It makes the whole system a lot more "install and forget", removing the maintenance, moving parts, etc. It would also work well for smaller scale installations, and for installations that don't face directly at the sun (north facing, etc.). It would work well on cloudy days, indoors, and in a host of situations that a parabolic focusing arrangement would be impractical or useless.

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  19. Actually it doesn't by OeLeWaPpErKe · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's a lens. It only affects light (electromagnetic radiation).

    It's a lens, specifically, that bends light into a spiral path that ends in the middle of the lens. It could presumably be used to amplify light into a small point. The same small point, regardless of the way the light strikes the surface of the lens, making it potentially useful for solid-state light gathering.

    1. Re:Actually it doesn't by Jstlook · · Score: 3, Funny

      Let me be the first to agree or disagree.

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  20. Cold fusion is a reality! by mcgrew · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now is only the could work in Cold Fusion and Death Panels!

    Cold fusion is what happens when two ice cubes stick together.

  21. Very obvious civilian application by Shag · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Chinese paper refers to effectiveness at 18GHz, which just so happens to be in the "K" band of radar frequencies. You know, the one police like to use.

    So all these guys need to do is make a dashboard- or grille-mounted radar absorber to obsolete the radar detector and they'll be so rich they'll forget their ultimate goal of destroying the world or whatever.

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    1. Re:Very obvious civilian application by smoker2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Police : Why does that car return no signature even though it's right in front of me ? Better stop them and find out.

    2. Re:Very obvious civilian application by lewiscr · · Score: 4, Funny

      If none of the radar bounces come back, you must be moving away at at the speed of light. Definitely over the limit.

  22. Re:Why are science reporters such ignoramuses? by John+Hasler · · Score: 2, Informative

    Capture orbits have to do with loss of energy by way of gravitational radiation. Gravity around a black hole is just like gravity anywhere else. They do not magically suck things in.

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  23. Military Application? by popo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Are we looking at the next generation of stealth technology?

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    1. Re:Military Application? by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 4, Funny

      Are we looking at the next generation of stealth technology?

      If you're looking at it wouldn't it be the last generation stealth technology ?

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  24. Re:wrong canon by Martin+Blank · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I believe elrous0 was referring to the timeline of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, wherein all the dolphins leave Earth just before the Vogons destroy it.

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  25. Re:Wow by BorgCopyeditor · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, if you'd just pull your head out of your ...

    Oh. Never mind. Keep looking.

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