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Giant Ribbon Discovered At Edge of Solar System

beadwindow writes "NASA's IBEX (Interstellar Boundary Explorer) spacecraft has made the first all-sky maps of the heliosphere and the results have taken researchers by surprise. The maps are bisected by a bright, winding ribbon of unknown origin: 'This is a shocking new result,' says IBEX principal investigator Dave McComas of the Southwest Research Institute. 'We had no idea this ribbon existed — or what has created it. Our previous ideas about the outer heliosphere are going to have to be revised.' Another NASA scientist notes, '"This ribbon winds between the two Voyager spacecraft and was not observed by either of them.'"

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  1. galactic magnetic field by wizardforce · · Score: 3, Insightful

    FTA:

    One important clue: The ribbon runs perpendicular to the direction of the galactic magnetic field just outside the heliosphere,

    It looks like the ribbon is a side effect of the interaction between the galactic magnetic field and the heliosphere. It's possible that the interaction between the two causes particles to either collect in that region or direct those particles from that region toward Earth.

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    1. Re:galactic magnetic field by dhanson865 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's possible that the interaction between the two causes particles to either collect in that region or direct those particles from that region toward Earth

      Other than it's where you live what is your fixation with the Earth? I'm assuming you should have said towards the SUN since it happens to be the center point of the system as a whole. Or am I missing something technical that somehow shows that the earth is specifically effecting this interaction?

    2. Re:galactic magnetic field by CheshireCatCO · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I disagree. The probability of the ribbon running perpindicular to the galactic magnetic field is pretty low if it's a coincidence and it's not implausible that there are interactions between the heliosphere and the magnetic field (given that the heliosphere is set by plasma interactions and all, especially). So to infer that the galactic magnetic field plays a role is perfectly reasonable.

      Perhaps you mean that it isn't *proof* that the galactic magnetic field is responsible? (Which is true. Granted, there is no proof in science, just sometimes strong evidence. Which this isn't, either.)

    3. Re:galactic magnetic field by ls671 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I like the GP suggestion, in scientific thinking, you *need* to make hypothesis and try to validate them.

      What if the ribbons were just Galactic Northern Lights ? ;-))

      There is nothing wrong with trying to guess in science as long as you categorize your thoughts as hypothesis...

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    4. Re:galactic magnetic field by CheshireCatCO · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The thing being... we have a 2D view of a 3D object. From our perspective it runs perpendicular to the axis of the magnetic field. But without a second observation point that's far enough away from the original observation point, we can't actually know that it actually *is* perpendicular to the axis, or whether it's an optical illusion and really going off at some oddball angle.

      Again, sure. But we got what we got. And, once again, what's being suggested isn't that we know that these two things are connected. Merely that it'd be a heckuva coincidence if they weren't. If I hear a scream and rush around the corner to see someone unconscious on the sidewalk, I'm going to assume that the two are connected until I get further information suggesting otherwise. Certainly as I try to figure out what happened, that's my starting position. And similarly, the good folks working on this ribbon mystery are going to start by looking for ways of connecting the ribbon to the galactic magnetic field. They might be wrong. That might get them nowhere. But you start where the initial set of clues lead you and work from there.

      So, once again: no one is saying that we know that the two are connected. It's just a reasonably strong hint in the initial stages of investigating a new phenomenon.

  2. Looking for the Right Thing by lousyd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This "ribbon" escaped detection by two former Voyager spacecraft, and is only now being detected by some new spacecraft that happened to be looking for something different. This "ribbon" is a ribbon by some specific property.

    It's amazing, to me, how what we see is influenced to a great extent by what we're looking for. The manifold possibilities the universe presents to us!

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  3. Re:Ribbon? by superslacker87 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Bill Gates must be God?

    We are witnessing the birth of a new dogma: the Holy Quaternity.

    You're late to the party, Bro.

    Catholics have been doing that with Mary for centuries now.

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  4. Gift by BlueBoxSW.com · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It just means that life, the universe, and everything is a gift.

  5. Re:Prediction by t_ban · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The hindu conception is a little more plausible in terms of time spans, but still makes claims that don't hold up under the microscope. No idea about the Sikh concept. Budhism? I think you'll find the same problems with hinduism, but possibly compounded by different schools of thought. Admittedly I dont know much about the specific claims of much outside the judeo-christian-muslim religions ,but its not the point.

    Hmmm. So you

    o tackle three world religions one by one

    o trash all of them

    o admit you don't know much about any of them

    o claim that your ignorance is not the point, your uninformed opinions are still correct

    and you have been modded insightful. Well done, slashdot.

    FYI, Buddhism (note the spelling) does not speak of a god.

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