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Some Users Say Win7 Wants To Remove iTunes, Google Toolbar

Foofoobar writes "Due to a strike with the UK's postal system, people in Great Britain are getting copies of Windows 7 early and have already posted their experiences about the install process. Some have an easy time but others post installs taking 3 hours including Windows asking them to remove iTunes and Google toolbar prior to installation." The article indicates that many of these early users, though, are having better luck.

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  1. About iTunes -- from the article by rwade · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's the a quote from the article of a user who found that Windows 7 asked that the user uninstall iTunes:

    ...and I reinstalled iTunes which worked fine without any configuration, my library and apps were all there.

    While I agree it is suspicious that iTunes and the Google Toolbar were the only applications that Windows 7 ask that particular user to uninstall, it should be made clear that Windows 7 did not impede the user from using that software or foist a MS application on him.

    I will note that many users had significant difficulties with using non-Apple software after upgrading to Snow Leopard.

    I myself have had significant difficulties using already installed software after upgrading various shared libraries via ports on FreeBSD.

    I would suggest that these issues are along the lines of what Microsoft was doing when it asked the user to uninstall iTunes and the Google Toolbar.

  2. Oh, FFS! by R2.0 · · Score: 5, Informative

    From TFA:

    "The upgrade process gave me a list of about 5 programs to un-install," he says. "Which I did, it was some drivers, iTunes and the Google Toolbar. After that the whole thing was automatic, I just left it sitting there... At the end of it, Windows put back the drivers I removed, and I reinstalled iTunes which worked fine without any configuration, my library and apps were all there. I have to say that is about the most successful Windows upgrade I have ever personally experienced."

    Yep - a disaster in the making.

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  3. Crappy Summary by Anonymous+Codger · · Score: 5, Informative

    What a crappy, dishonest summary! I despise MS as much as anyone, but this is too much. Yes, it asked them to remove iTunes, etc., but then it reinstalled them! And everything worked.

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  4. Lie about windows to get posted on slashdot by Useful+Wheat · · Score: 5, Informative

    Did the poster even read the article? The summary is longer than the sentence that mentions this.

    "The upgrade process gave me a list of about 5 programs to un-install," he says. "Which I did, it was some drivers, iTunes and the Google Toolbar." What does the author say about this horrible, horrible thing? "I have to say that is about the most successful Windows upgrade I have ever personally experienced."

    That's not sarcasm, that's not some biting commentary at microsoft, that is a user who is content with his instillation of Windows 7 on a computer. This is not an article about how microsoft is afraid of competition and squashes even the slightest attempt at competition, this is about how 3 people were relatively happy with their instillations.

    The poster picked the single most insignificant statement out of context, and made it their headline. I'm not sure if the poster was being ironic, or trying to troll linux fans into reading a pro-microsoft article, but the summary has almost nothing to do with the article.

    The upgrade didn't make you purge your computer of open source software. Windows 7 didn't make you uninstall OO.O, or even Lotus Notes (which really, needs to die). The upgrade did not purge your computer of competitor's software, it just so happened that those 2 programs needed to be reinstalled.

    1. Re:Lie about windows to get posted on slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      The upgrade did not purge your computer of competitor's software, it just so happened that those 2 programs needed to be reinstalled.

      I can even tell you specifically why those 2 programs should be uninstalled then reinstalled after the upgrade. No, it's not because Microsoft's trying to stick it to competitors.

      iTunes messes with your USB stack by installing system-level drivers, and since the whole underlying OS is changing, those drivers will likely not work right after an upgrade for reasons that should be blatantly obvious to anyone who considers themselves 'good with computers'. The best practice is to let the iTunes installer see that it's installing on Windows 7 and configure the drivers correctly for the new OS.

      Google Toolbar installs differently depending on which version of Internet Explorer it's installing into. Vista users may be using IE7, whereas Windows 7 comes with IE8. Technically using the IE7 interfaces to extend IE8 is supported, but it forces some backward-compatibility hacks to be enabled, which slows the entire browser down. By uninstalling and reinstalling after the upgrade, you get the IE8 version of the Google Toolbar and it runs better.

  5. Re:Windows Upgrades by GIL_Dude · · Score: 5, Informative

    I would have put myself solidly in the "never upgrade, always do wipe and load" camp until Windows 7. I've now upgraded three machines and it has gone very very well. (I would still wipe and load for corporate purposes to be sure the machines are 100% the same).

    For this specific item they mention here about iTunes... The beta version of the upgrade advisor merely recommended that you deauthorize iTunes on your computer before upgrading. Apparently nobody could figure out how to do that, so they now recommend that you uninstall iTunes, then upgrade your machine, then re-install iTunes. I guess this is to make sure your computer remains authorized for any content you bought although I can't give results for that as I only have content I ripped from CD myself. I can say I have done one machine each way - I uninstalled for this notebook I am on now and I just deauthorized for my wife's notebook. Both upgrades worked flawlessly.

  6. Re:Windows Upgrades by Itninja · · Score: 5, Informative

    I upgraded Vista Ultimate x64 to Windows 7 Ultimate x64 and had no significant issues. The 'upgrade advisor' program even advised me to deauthorize my installation of iTunes before continuing. No fuss, no muss, as they say.

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  7. Re:Sounds good to me by Per+Wigren · · Score: 5, Informative

    Do you honestly think a half dozen audio codecs, and another half dozen video codecs would make for a "small" DLL?

    libavcodec currently has decoders for 242 audio and video codecs, encoders for 100, demuxers for 129 container formats and muxers for 89.
    The resulting DLL is about 7 MB.

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  8. Re:Windows Upgrades by Allador · · Score: 5, Informative

    All that fear mongering was a bunch of hooey.

    What is locked out?

    Nothing.

    Do P2P apps work properly?

    Yes

    Are there unexplained phone-homes?

    Vista and W7 are much more thoroughly instrumented than XP was. Many of these will send anonymous usage and config data back to MS. These are all well documented and understood, and don't really cause any concern for privacy.

    They're largely all disable-able, though they are scattered, as many of the product groups rolled their own systems for this (ie, office vs. media player vs wga, etc).

    Can I still play out-of-region CDs?

    This is dependent on the hardware and software you use. But the OS in no way gets involved.

    Do I have to fight UAC like someone with Vista?

    Loaded question. UAC on Vista (post SP1) worked exactly as it was intended. Any problems you had you should blame on your app vendors.

    Or yourself, if you chose to not customize UAC behavior to your liking. It is tremendously customizable (even in Vista) in how it behaves, how it prompts, whether or not to use the secure desktop, etc etc. If you don't like it, just configure it so that you do.

    W7 loosens it a bit so that many actions that the OS perceives as 'initiated by the user' dont cause an elevation. This is how it ships. You can turn it back to Vista style if you want, or otherwise customize it.

    Can I copy any standard file type on to any standard media?

    Yes.