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Developing Nations Crippled By Broadband Costs

eldavojohn writes "If you live in the EU, you probably enjoy low broadband costs. If you live in Finland, it's even a legal right. If you live in the US, you probably pay a moderate cost. But if you live in the developing world, a UNCTAD report paints your picture pretty grim. Ridiculously high bandwidth costs are inhibiting developing nations from enjoying productive use of the internet — like online banking and market tools."

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  1. Development crippled by what? by CraftyJack · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Broadband access, of course. I'd imagine that narrowly edged out security, stability, access to medical care, and clean drinking water.

    1. Re:Development crippled by what? by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Funny
      Yeah..don't forget food and shelter too.

      "Hey, Unbooboo....I'm starving, naked and wet....but, man, I'm getting like 10 Mbit download speeds!!"

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    2. Re:Development crippled by what? by girlintraining · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Broadband access, of course. I'd imagine that narrowly edged out security, stability, access to medical care, and clean drinking water.

      Like many information technologies, broadband access reduces the cost and increases the usefulness of basic utilities: Online security with encryption and properly-designed systems can be faster, more tamper-proof, and has better fraud-prevention than traditional security practices (such as checks). Access to medical care is also improved by Broadband access, allowing doctors to telecommute, and rapidly research and connect with collegues who may be in remote locations. Clean drinking water, even, can be helped by broadband access -- the distribution of knowledge on how to build low-cost water purification systems. For example... a clear glass bottle and a cotton filter can clean water from many sources because UV light can sanitize the water.

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    3. Re:Development crippled by what? by vertinox · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Broadband access, of course. I'd imagine that narrowly edged out security, stability, access to medical care, and clean drinking water.

      Strangely enough, Somalia is touted to have one of the most advanced telecommunications industry in Africa.

      Apparently when there is no corrupt government (or any government worth mentioning) or regulatory body (FCC) then people just put up their own cell phone towers and wireless networks with little regard to the previous system.

      Of course during the anarchy most of the copper why was torn down and sold as scrap by looters so wireless was the only alternative and many of the warlords and pirates were keen on having cell phone access to speak with people internationally so they had some high bankroll early adopters.

      That said... Between the angry warlords and Islamic militias... I wouldn't move there for the wireless and broad band systems.

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    4. Re:Development crippled by what? by timeOday · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Stories about developing nations always invite these silly comments. The fact is, economic development is always very closely tied to the ability to communicate. Always has been. And developing nations are not going to go through every obsolete technology (pony express, telegraph, manually switched copper network...) that we did; there is no economic basis for doing so. You could argue they should get a cellphone network before Internet, but these days they are one in the same.

    5. Re:Development crippled by what? by Neoprofin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's silly unless you've ever been to a developing nation (let's take India) that has an absolutely incredible cell phone network, cheap internet access, and frequently undrinkable water and large families living in homes pieced together from old sheet metal. Yes I think everyone should be able to enjoy Youtube, but I think they should be able to enjoy a stable electrical grid and drinkable water first.

    6. Re:Development crippled by what? by timeOday · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wait a minute, India is the model you don't want to emulate in other countries? Their economic growth has been incredible, and competition from India strikes fear into the hearts of many slashdotters. Nothing is going to solve poverty in a huge country like India overnight, but they are on the right track.

    7. Re:Development crippled by what? by pkphilip · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The OP has a point though.

      I am an Indian and I reside in India.

      Yes, you are right in that India's growth has been incredible - by purchasing power parity, India's GDP is the 4th largest in the world ahead of Germany, Russia, UK etc.. And even now the GDP growth rate is very strong.

      But let us look at some other statistics - though we are listed 4th in the world in GDP (by PPP), our per capita income is listed 142nd in the world. That means though India has grown so much, the majority of the population is still very poor. This goes to mean that the rich in India have gotten incredibly rich while the poor have remained very poor or have actually become poorer.

      So while we have Rolls Royce, Ferrari and Lamborghini showrooms in India, there are poor people who live just a block away who don't even have access to clean water or basic sanitation.

      This leads me to think that there are some serious problems with the Indian approach to economic growth - and so I wouldn't exactly be thrilled with other countries trying to emulate our model of growth.

      Having said that - I must say that the Indian government has done a lot over the past decade or so to address the problems faced by the poor. But it is a huge problem - and not something that can be addressed or resolved quickly.

      Coming to the whole point of this slashdot post - about whether broadband access will turn things around in developing nations - well, the whole premise behind that statement is that it is the lack of adequately advanced technology/science which is leading to poverty. I don't think that assertion is valid.

      We can access all sorts of technology in India, but that is not removing the poverty here. So the problem lies elsewhere and broadband is most likely not the solution.

  2. The solution... by The+Grim+Reefer2 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Pigeon net. Apparently a carrier pigeon is faster as well.

  3. Heres the thing... by Darkness404 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Here is the thing, in developing and third-world nations the infrastructure simply isn't there. Most of the time their countries are located in hostile terrain, either they are isolated by mountains, the sea, have extreme climates, have a corrupt government that doesn't want to help its people, or the people simply live in remote areas. Just look at rural America, there are lots of places where the best you can get is cell phone internet speeds, and a lot of these people live just a mile or two outside of a town. Think of how bigger of a challenge this is where you have people who live many miles from any major town, are dirt poor, and you have to cross hostile terrain. Thats how its like in most of these countries.

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  4. 'cause what the developing world desperately needs by nuckfuts · · Score: 3, Interesting

    is online banking.

  5. This is undertandable... by bogaboga · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...You know why? Because for most developing nations, entire major cities are unplanned (read unmapped).

    All they do when one is looking for directions is to say something to the effect..."Just near that big tower...behind the "Kofeko" market.

    And I know because I am originally from one of those developing nations. The concept of an address does not exist. In fact, I had to think hard and ask my family what I should put on the visa application forms as an address before coming to these United States.

    Nuff said.

  6. Developing Nations Crippled by Road Costs by Rob+Riggs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is news? Basic transport is a more important aspect to everyday life in these places. They are not going to have well-planned highway systems or electrical grids. And you want broadband? Build roads, water pipelines, sewer systems and power lines first. Then you can focus on broadband.

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  7. The term you are looking for is. . . by JSBiff · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the term you are looking for is Economy of Scale.

    In this case, in the African nations, the cost of Infrastructure and transport to other Internet connected companies is both relatively large (because of a large geographical area that infrastructure has to be deployed to), and has to be shared by a fairly small population of customers. Even if you tried to 'scale up' in Africa, by lowering the cost, there are many people so utterly poor they could not even afford the equivalent of $5/mo for Internet access. That's not to say African nations don't have wealthy people, but as a friend of mine from Nigeria described it to me, there is essentially no middle class in Nigeria (and I think that might be fairly typical of most of Africa) - you have people who are well connected with the government, oil companies, etc, and are rich, and then you have destitute poor people who are exploited by the rich.

    Without a middle class, there's no way the ISP's in Africa can get the economies of scale necessary to make broadband cheaper (and, you know, if the only people who can afford your product are the rich, what is your business incentive to make it cheaper? To a rich person, making hundreds of thousands (or millions) of dollars a year, $500/mo is 'affordable', and to the poor, $20/mo is 'unaffordable', so why *try* to get broadband down to $20 or $30/mo? In 1st world nations, the pressure to get the price down is that, even though you might reduce your price by, say, 10 percent per month per subscriber, you have a possibility that you might increase the total number of subscribers by 20 percent oor 30 percent, meaning you actually make more money. Not so in Africa.

  8. Don't have banking? News to me. by quietwalker · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I write software for banks for a living. Web, mobile, voice, atm, teller, whatever. As far as my industry has indicated, these developing nations rely on cell phones for the majority of their banking, and anyone with enough money to care about banking will likely use a cell phone for that purpose - at least for common daily usage. There are people out there who have to rely on a hand-crank generator or pay a vendor to charge their phone - they have no access to electricity, but you'll note, they STILL have a cell phone.

    Even in developing nations, cell phones are incredibly pervasive.

  9. Key word: "Productive" by PeanutButterBreath · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The point here isn't the irony of delivering broadband to lost pygmy tribes with no indoor plumbing.

    Hasn't anyone noticed that to use the internet efficiently for even mundane tasks it requires more and more processing power and bandwith? I wouldn't pay for broadband either, since I rarely use the web for video, gaming or large image downloads -- I could easily get by with dial-up and my PowerBook G4. Heck, I was using a circa 1998 Thinkpad two years ago. But both machines became an increasing hassle to use even for basic browsing of primarily text sites due to the ton of gimmicky overhead in the form of useless bells and whistles and un-optimized content.

    I agree that people in the 3rd world probably have larger priorities than high-speed internet. But certainly the internet is a tool that they could benefit from, and the sad fact of the matter is that without high-speed, an increasing portion of the internet is functionally inaccessible. That is a legitimately dire state of affairs, IMO.