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Why a High IQ Doesn't Mean You're Smart

D1gital_Prob3 writes "How can a 'smart' person act foolishly? Keith Stanovich, professor of human development and applied psychology at the University of Toronto, Canada, has grappled with this apparent incongruity for 15 years. He says it applies to more people than you might think. To Stanovich, however, there is nothing incongruous about it. IQ tests are very good at measuring certain mental faculties, he says, including logic, abstract reasoning, learning ability and working-memory capacity — how much information you can hold in mind."

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  1. INT vs WIS by PHPNerd · · Score: 5, Funny

    Come on...everyone knows a high Intelligence score isn't the same as a high Wisdom score!

  2. Intelligence vs Wisdom by bughunter · · Score: 4, Funny

    Any RPGer knows that Prof. Stanovich is attempting to correlate INT scores with WIS scores.

    Silly scientist. No bonus priest spells for you.

    /2nd Edition devotee

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    1. Re:Intelligence vs Wisdom by Speare · · Score: 3, Funny

      Any RPGer knows that Prof. Stanovich is attempting to correlate INT scores with WIS scores.
      Silly scientist. No bonus priest spells for you.

      We don't need to guess who scored 3 for CHArisma.

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  3. How can a "smart" person act foolishly? by SCHecklerX · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's usually a woman involved.

    1. Re:How can a "smart" person act foolishly? by courtjester801 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Or Jager.

  4. INT vs WIS... vs CHA by oracleofbargth · · Score: 3, Funny

    Theres also a reason the ability to schmooze is given its own stat. Where else would all the politicians put their high ability scores?

  5. High IQ & being smart by xclay · · Score: 3, Funny

    A real smart person would've known this and disregarded IQ scores long ago, but some people with high IQ scores may have propped up their self-respect with the results and probably neglected to nurture their smarts...

  6. It's true by Tarlus · · Score: 4, Funny

    My brother-in-law is one of the smartest people I know. Earned his PhD in optical physics and does some very high-level work with it. Way above the head of anybody he explains it to. He's written some pretty intense C++ programs to handle neural-network computations of extremely complicated mathematical problems.

    But I can't count how many cellphones he's destroyed from accidental drops from his shirt pocket into the toilet. And a few times he lost his keys for a week because he left them hanging in the door lock.

    He's a smart guy, but sometimes we wonder about him.

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  7. Re:This is news? by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 3, Funny

    Mensa is itself the perfect example of what this discussion is all about. The organization is chock full of the most super-intelligent people...and yet the word "mensa" is spanish slang for "stupid female".

  8. Sigh...editors. by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why a High IQ Doesn't Mean You're Smart?

    They're still smart, but even smart people can do dumb things. That's why it's important to be clear with phrases like "You are dumb" and "That was dumb." (I have finger puppets if the /. editors are confused about this...)

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  9. Re:Openness to ideas and creativity by geekoid · · Score: 5, Funny

    Man define intelligence to fit how he behaves, news at 11.

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  10. Amen by FranTaylor · · Score: 5, Funny

    I know a guy in Mensa who was genuinely surprised that I stopped talking to him after he hit on my wife and tried to talk her into divorcing me.

    I don't think it's occurred to him yet that she and I actually speak to each other.

    1. Re:Amen by EdgeyEdgey · · Score: 4, Funny

      I once saw a member of Mensa
      Meet my wife and try to romance her
      The intelegent geek
      Didn't think we would speak
      In fact he was quite a lot denser

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  11. Re:I knew this 25 years ago... by JustOK · · Score: 4, Funny

    well, WIS and INT are both generally lower for non AD&D people, but the difference is the same.

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  12. Re:419 Scams by Yvan256 · · Score: 5, Funny

    If the dumb are rich and the smart are poor, why aren't the smart acting dumb to get rich? Are they too dumb to do that? And if they are dumb, then how come they're not rich?

    I have a headache now, thanks to you.

  13. Re:I knew this 25 years ago... by nomadic · · Score: 5, Funny

    well, WIS and INT are both generally lower for non AD&D people, but the difference is the same.

    Though strength, dexterity, and charisma tend to be a lot higher...

  14. Re:A quick and accurate intelligence test by Volante3192 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can't see anything! All the keyboard crud fell into my eyes you insensitive clod!

  15. Re:This is news? by Yvan256 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Knowledge is not Intelligence. Otherwise, that means the hard drive in your computer would be more intelligent than you are.

  16. Re:I say this with some knowledge on the matter by russotto · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yet until mid-20's, I was lazy as hell. Once I turned that around, life has become very easy.

    Well, that's pretty messed up. Now that life is easy, you aren't lazy enough to take advantage of that fact...

  17. Re:IQ is not the same as EQ by Eudial · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've always felt EQ and "street smart" was people with average IQ going "Fine! I'll build my own intelligence scale... with blackjack... and hookers!"

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  18. Re:I say this with some knowledge on the matter by geekoid · · Score: 5, Funny

    ". My IQ is in the top 0.1%."

    doubtful....I've read you other posts.

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  19. Re:I say this with some knowledge on the matter by Monoman · · Score: 3, Funny

    So your motto is "Work harder, not smarter"? :-)

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  20. Re:I say this with some knowledge on the matter by MyLongNickName · · Score: 2, Funny

    doubtful....I've read you other posts.
    At least make sure you spell correctly when putting down my intelligence :)

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  21. Re:I say this with some knowledge on the matter by CannonballHead · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...intelligence *period* ;)

  22. Re:419 Scams by Artifakt · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, and why aren't the flat chested poor acting busty to get rich?

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  23. Re:People just work differently by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 2, Funny

    I saw that one coming a mile away - well at least halfway through your 4th paragraph.

    No offense AC, but given that the post starts with "My ex-wife" your powers of observation are yet more evidence for the articles theory.

  24. Idiocracy by srobert · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Perhaps the perceived "stupidity" of people with high IQs is simply the manifestation of their inability to communicate effectively with 'little brains'".

    Reminds me of a line from the doctor in Idiocracy:

    "Well, don't want to sound like a dick or nothin', but, ah... it says on your chart that you're fucked up. Ah, you talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded."

  25. Re:This is news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    That's a pretty good analogy. And, taking it further, batteries not included.

  26. Re:419 Scams by daveime · · Score: 2, Funny

    If you prefer, imagine a choice between two doors: behind door A is the job of your dreams, behind door B is the woman of your dreams. There isn't a right answer.

    The woman in my dreams is always rich ... therefore no need to even consider door A.

  27. Re:419 Scams by EvilBudMan · · Score: 3, Funny

    Dating advice on /. ? What IS the world coming to?

  28. Re:One of my favorite quotes by lennier · · Score: 2, Funny

    "The slogan "Press On" has solved and always will solve the
    problems of the human race."

    I thought it was "Press 'Launch'".

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  29. Re:419 Scams by Fluffeh · · Score: 2, Funny

    Actually, you would be surprised at how certain things go. Personally, I don't think it is WHAT you say, so much as the DELIVERY of the statement.

    I will qualify and say that I hang out in a lot of rave/techno clubs, but let me tell you this little story. One night me and a mate were working back late, and to pass the time, we were coming up with the lamest, corniest and all round worst pickup lines we could think of. One of the ones Dave said made me laugh so much, I decided to get it printed on a t-shirt. I wore this t-shirt out clubbing, and on the first night out was utterly AMAZED at how many girls saw it, laughed, then came up and struck up a conversation. The worst line delivered correctly can still be an awesome icebreaker.

    Oh, the shirt slogan you ask?

    Nice shoes...
    Wanna fuck?

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  30. Paul Graham already covered this by npsimons · · Score: 2, Funny

    From a very smart person, I give you Why Nerds are Unpopular. Short version: because it's unimportant. Smart people are - surprise! - smart enough to figure out what is really important, and it's not social skills or any of the other humdrum that makes up everyday life. Also very succinctly and eloquently paraphrased in this comment.