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Apple Voiding Smokers' Warranties?
Mr2001 writes "Consumerist reports that Apple is refusing to work on computers that have been used in smoking households. 'The Apple store called and informed me that due to the computer having been used in a house where there was smoking, [the warranty has been voided] and they refuse to work on the machine "due to health risks of second hand smoke,"' wrote one customer. Another said, 'When I asked for an explanation, she said [the owner of the iMac is] a smoker and it's contaminated with cigarette smoke, which they consider a bio-hazard! I checked my Applecare warranty and it says nothing about not honoring warranties if the owner is a smoker.' Apple claims that honoring the warranty would be an OSHA violation. (Remember when they claimed enabling 802.11n for free would be a Sarbanes-Oxley violation?)"
I moved into a house previously owned by a smoker. Almost got nicotine poisoning just from touching the wallpaper...
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I'm insulted, and appalled. What is next, refusing service if you have ( legal ) things they don't approve of on your drive ( like porn? )
---- Booth was a patriot ----
class action lawsuit anyone.
What amazes me is that smokers believe that their right to smoke trumps everybody else's right to breath fresh, clean air.
I am, clearly, a non-smoker and I personally take offense to cigarette smoke. If a computer came into my possession that reeked of cigarette smoke, I'd refuse to work on it, too. Give it to a smoker to fix...in a separate building.
Let's get serious here. Whose upset that these computers, besides their owners, are not being fixed? Cigarette smokers. If smokers want to fix computers that were in smoker's houses, let the smokers fix them. I mean, God Damn, people! Listen to yourselves! Smokers are actually offended that non-smokers do not want to fix their smelly, second-hand hazardous smoke-filled PCs. What a misdirected sense of entitlement smokers have.
There isn't a compelling reason for non-smokers to place their health at risk because of a group of people who will not heed medical advice to stop smoking.
You're an enormous fag. Pull your head out of your fucking ass. I don't like the smell of smoke just as much as the next non-smoker, but "second-hand hazardous smoke filled PCs" is a load of bullshit. Oh mah god, there's smoking residue on this Mac! Spray some fucking febreze and do your job.
Disgusting is not a legal reason to void a legal contract.
It's a good enough reason to try.
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Maybe it falls under "abuse" or "smoke damage". If the machine is so disgusting that it's sticky to the touch on humid days, smells like the inside of an old tavern, and wheezes every time you turn it on, it's been abused by too much smoke.
Read your insurance policy - I'm sure it mentions "smoke damage" somewhere. And all warranties mention abuse.
Don't forget those pissy shitty babies! I say we ban all babies, let those fuckers rot in the house! Nobody wants those nasty things around, and they spread disease, much more than smokers! Do you want the Swine Flu?
Seriously this nanny government shit is getting ridiculous. If the founding fathers would have seen what whiny little spoiled pussies were gonna do to their freedoms they would have thrown the constitution in the fire and started over. And as for Apple? If it ain't in the contract sue their ass! Ask for 50 times the cost of the laptop, and use part of your settlement to buy a nice Win7 laptop. No contract clause? Sue away baby, yeah!
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
And apparently you dont undertand that people dont want ot hear about some bullshit accounting excuse. Its called marketing. Trotting out Sarbanes-Oxley jsut made them look like a tool. THere was NO legal requirement for them to do it in that manner, its all a simple matter of how you do your books.
Good-bye
Now that smokers are the minority, I don't think so.
So, your argument is that once a group is a minority, it's suddenly ok to discriminate against them? It's ok to breach a contract because the individual is part of a minority in the population? I might be able to get on board with your argument if you hadn't made that incredibly ignorant statement.
would they have to honor the service contract if the laptop was exposed to abestos, lead dust, or <insert favorite toxic agent here>? most people i think would say no.
just because billions of people willingly subject themselves to nicotine each day doesn't change the fact that it is a carcinogen. IMHO, and in the opinion of most western countries, the average person has a right to avoid being subjected to carcinogens.
yes, flame on with counterexamples, but in general that's the way things are moving.
Cat and dog hair don't cause cancer. Smoking does,
Cats and dogs have proven beneficial effects on their owners. Smokers? Cigarettes, when used as directed, kill you.
Yeah, yeah, you'll say you're not dead YET.
The problem of pet hair is easily solved - don't put the box on the floor, and it won't collect hair (unless you let your cat sleep on it :-). The problem of tar from tobacco isn't solved except by banishing the smoker outdoors.
Plus, smokers smell worse than a wet dog - and you can always dry a dog off.
Smokers literally don't know how badly they stink. I guess it's like farts - people tend not to mind their own so much. But really, you smell. The Viet Kong used to track American soldiers by smell, and I believe it. It's in your clothes, your furniture, your rugs, your skin and hair. Opening a window or spraying air freshener doesn't fix it.
We're not accusing you of being evil, eating babies, or anything else. All we're saying is that your habit is filthy, disgusting, and nobody deserves to have to put up with it - including you. Do you think I like seeing some of my sisters who are hooked, every year coming up with another excuse why "it's not a good time to quit - next year!" They're going to die before their time, and it's not going to be pretty. "I told you so!" is going to be ZERO consolation. Do you think I like seeing my nephews getting hooked because they grew up in that environment, and the cycle's been perpetuated in yet another generation?
Do you think ANY parent anywhere in the world who isn't a totally fucked-up monster ever got joy out of finding out their kid smoked? You've got 8-year-olds puffing away! That's not "smokers rights" or "informed choice." It's criminal. It's a darned shame. Don't do me a favour and quit - do yourself a favour. It'll certainly save you money ... and it could save your life.
You really think 'smokers egregiously abused their rights?' What have you been smoking? All it used to take was a small sign and smokers respected it, no need for government bans, fines etc. Smokers have had their rights egregiously abused.
Really, you've never met a considerate smoker because you've never noticed them. They're the ones who don't sit in the smoking section of restaurants because they know how much it sucks to have someone smoke in the same building as you when you're eating. They smoke in the wind so that their clothes don't stink. They pick their time to smoke.
I mean I could say i've never met a considerate Jewish person, and that's racism (I've never met a Jewish person though, so it's not racism), but you've never met a considerate smoker and that's somehow alright? It's funny the people who normally complain about the rights of others being trampled trample the rights of others whenever they get the chance.