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Obama Kicks Off Massive Science Education Effort

In a speech at the White House today, President Obama launched a new campaign, "Educate to Innovate," designed to get American students fired up about science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM). The full text of the speech is also available on whitehouse.gov. "The new campaign builds on the President's Inaugural Address, which included a vow to put science 'in its rightful place.' One of those rightful places, of course, is the classroom. Yet too often our schools lack support for teachers or the other resources needed to convey the practical utility and remarkable beauty of science and engineering. As a result, students become overwhelmed in their classes and ultimately disengaged. They lose, and our nation loses too. The partnerships launched today aim to change that. They respond to a challenge made by the President in April, when he spoke at the annual meeting of the National Academy of Sciences and asked the nation's philanthropists, professional and educational societies, corporations, and individuals to collaborate and innovate with the goal of reinvigorating America's STEM educational enterprise. The partnerships announced today — dramatic commitments in the hundreds of millions of dollars, generated through novel collaborations and creative outreach activities — are just the first wave of commitments anticipated in response to his call."

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  1. And In Unrelated News... by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    America's artistic value continues to decline with each hollywood blockbuster to be released. No studies whatsoever have been made to test if it could possibly be correlated to poor schooling in the fields of Language Arts, Drama/Theatre, and Humanitarian studies.

    Up Next, a story about how a 3 legged dog saved a baby.

    1. Re:And In Unrelated News... by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 5, Interesting

      In other news politicians still haven't made the connection between an arbitrary and inherently abusive disciplinary system of absolute authority with no accountability or responsibility layed over the top of a system of "education" designed around teaching students to do well on a few standardized tests and students becoming "disengaged".

      Ditch zero tolerance and standardized tests and the problem will solve itself.

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    2. Re:And In Unrelated News... by techno-vampire · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Ditch zero tolerance and standardized tests and the problem will solve itself.

      Even better, ditch the Department of Education with its centralized planning, heavy handed bureaucracy and one-size-fits-nobody policies and return the control of education to local school boards. Let them decide for themselves what's right for their district and what isn't because no two school districts are alike, and what works for one fails for another.

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    3. Re:And In Unrelated News... by commodore64_love · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You know I think they (meaning the government) have this backwards. Engineering and science is FUN. You get to learn all kinds of neat facts, and do cool projects like building solar-powered cabins or toy cars while going through your high school & college courses.

      It's the real world that sucks. I enjoyed my engineering/science right up to the point where I graduated, and they stuck me in a little tiny cubicle, by myself, staring at boring code and schematics. Day-after-day. Week-after-week. Year-after-year.

      That's when it stopped being fun.

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    4. Re:And In Unrelated News... by dreamt · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yeah, after all, it was the DoE's fault that Kansas wanted to teach creationism - oh, wait, that was the Kansas board of education.

    5. Re:And In Unrelated News... by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's obvious that local school boards can't run their schools according to standards. We should have a national educational governance with the ability to override the folly of local school board.

      For further information, see "Creationists take over local school board and fuck everyone's chances of being accepted into a college"

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    6. Re:And In Unrelated News... by commodore64_love · · Score: 5, Insightful

      >>>Substituting experts making decisions on a national scale is a pretty good idea.

      Perhaps but it's not authorized. "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." In other words the right to regulate education belongs to your local State government, until you expand the Constitution with an amendment.

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    7. Re:And In Unrelated News... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      but Kansans should be able to decide what gets taught in Kansas

      Not if they're going to ask for food stamps when they can't compete against students who are not taught science out of the bible.

      Look at the countries that are doing better jobs of teaching their children. You think they teach creationism in science class? How much time you think Japanese or Korean students spend in school prayer?

      Parents have 18 years to fill their kids' heads with whatever kind of mush they want. Can't they allow them a few short hours a day, 9 months a year, to at least have a shot at competing in the world? C'mon, give your kids at least a fighting chance.

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    8. Re:And In Unrelated News... by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I've always been a little concerned that the campaigners to keep religion and existential philosophy out of schools

      Has anyone been saying this, ever?

      No one wants to keep this out of schools. We want to keep it out of science class.

      you can't actually control what the children are thinking about or the questions they will internally ask.... if you think a policy of "no philosophical or religious discussion allowed" will stop children from thinking and internally asking those religious/existential questions,

      You seem to be assuming (mistakenly) that we want children to stop asking these questions.

      We don't. There is a time and a place for such questions. A few possible places in school include religion class, philosophy class, or ethics class -- all of which are important, but are not science class.

      Suppose a student stood up in math class and asked, "What is knowledge? How can we really say that we know, or have proved, anything?"

      That's an important question, and it may even be somewhat relevant to math, but it is inherently not math, it's offtopic, and it's disruptive when the intent is to actually teach math.

      So the answer to all of these questions would be, very simply, "That's an interesting question. Why don't you ask that in philosophy?"

      A better answer would be to actually explain why that question is outside the domain of science. Carl Sagan's "dragon in my garage" might be a good start.

      And if you wish to stop those questions from being discussed in class, then frankly you might as well put up a sign saying "only government pre-approved questions may be asked, and only government pre-approved answers will be given"

      Really?

      You really can't see a difference between trying to keep things on-topic and a totalitarian government pre-approved list of questions and answers?

      The empirical evidence in Europe is that science applications to universities appear to have fallen as society and schools have become more secular. And the empirical evidence in Europe is that it seems to be the religious schools that produce the best science results

      Nice evidence. Now, how do you connect it with this conclusion:

      and part of that is that they most certainly do make space in their schools (in RE classes) for discussion of what (let's face it) society has always called "the big questions" about the meaning of life.

      Really?

      How do you know that? Especially given that the person you are replying to claims that this is actually not what happens -- that the religious schools absolutely do keep religion out of the science classroom, and instead tell their students to ask in a more appropriate class?

      they expect them to think about everything, not just science.

      That's a good idea.

      Why don't you think about what you've learned here, if you've been paying attention. Two important things:

      First, read the post before replying.

      Second, make an effort to understand what your opposition says, rather than creating elaborate strawmen.

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  2. Not without the parents by fiendo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unless the proposal includes some tactics for getting the parents involvement, it'll be doomed before it starts. Education happens outside of the classroom just as much as in it and a child's mindset regarding education (no matter the field) is strongly influenced by their parents' mindset.

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  3. bucks by TheMeuge · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not going to happen.

    A post-doc doing biomedical research (which is the highest-paid field) makes $40k at NYU. This is after spending 4 years in college, and then doing research for 6 years making a $25k/year stipend. With a conversion rate of under 1 percent for faculty positions (which don't pay that much more anyway), why in the world would anyone actually do that to themselves?! You'd have to be REALLY driven to want to work 60+ hour weeks, under the perpetual stress of having your grant pulled, for less than subway ticket clerks make.

    Even better, in our new future we'll hamstring doctors and nurses pay, and make sure that nobody gives a damn about that kind of science too.

    As for physics and chemistry (and I am not even talking about Mathematics), we've already driven them into the ground. No need to worry any further.

  4. Re:Easier solution: by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Funny

    Being cool means kids don't feel stigmatized if they enter a field. The study comes later after choosing a career. Lawyers and doctors are often portrayed as smart, powerful, as well as highly paid in movies and TV. Compare that to the lead scientist in Independence Day. He couldn't even afford decent pants.

  5. The Education Silver Bullet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The silver bullet for education is very simple: Fix society. There's nothing inherently wrong with our schools. The problem is that schools are nothing but a microcosm of our society. We think that because schools are full of kids we have some special control over them, but that's generally not true. Kids learn what to value first from their parents, second from their role models (which are usually popular media figures), third from their peers, and only then from teachers. It's even worse when you think you can control teenagers who are not children.

    Parents that do not value education produce kids that do not value educations. Parents with no ambitions produce kids with no ambitions. A society that values fame and fortune over science and progress produces kids that value fame and fortune over science and progress.

    Quite simply, sick schools are a symptom of the real disease, a sick society. Of course few want to admit our society is sick, and even fewer want to make an effort to fix it. They'd rather just pretend that there's a magic trick to turning blank children (who aren't really blank) into perfect adults. Well sorry adults, but a) kids will turn out fine without you trying to "fix" them, and b) YOU are the real problem. We have to do what we want kids to do: We have to take responsibility and try to fix things instead of pushing problems onto somebody else, i.e. another generation.

    Fix society, and you fix schools. It's that simple. Fixing society isn't that simple? Tough. Either do it or stop complaining about schools.

  6. Re:Easier solution: by Idiomatick · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unless they are mad in which case they can afford a lair and deathrays in space. Also, they have no boss or people funding them to answer to.

  7. Re:In Russia, commie govt gives health care to YOU by QuoteMstr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    KNOWN broken system

    Actually, the rest of the goddamn civilized world shows us that the system we're trying to build here is the one that actually works, and it is ours that is the known-broken one.

    But I don't expect ideologues like you to apply reason to these things. After all, America, Fuck Yeah!

  8. Teachers aren't the ONLY problem by DesScorp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'll readily agree with you that we have some lousy teachers, but the problems go far beyond them. Unions sink any disruptive reform that threatens their status or wealth, for instance. But there are deep structural problems with our very method of education, starting with the education major itself in colleges. We should frankly chuck education degrees for junior high and high school teaching. And there's no getting around the fact that education majors in most colleges are almost always from the lowest tier of ACT/SAT scores. We could debate all day about the virtues and vices of government involvement in education.

    But equally as big is the problem of students and their parents. Frankly, lots of people simply don't care about schooling. Many parents see school mainly as a place to get rid of their kids for 7 hours a day. Most kids see school as a chore to be endured, from one degree to another.

    Look at countries like Finland, where they spend less per pupil and less on facilities than we do. Their kids spend fewer days in school per year and fewer hours in class per day, and fewer years in what we would call the K-12 system. And yet they outgain US kids in all phases of standardized testing. Why? Simply put, there's a culture of responsibility.

    Until we find a way to change attitudes among parents and kids, all of the money and legislation in the world won't make a difference.

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