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LHC Has First Collisions After Years of Waiting

An anonymous reader writes "Only four days after the first attempt to send a particle beam around the LHC, we have arrived at the point when all four experiments got their first real collisions from the machine. This was met by celebrations and champagne, as people have been waiting years and years for this moment. It is a testament to the engineering of the machine that collisions were reached already, so few days after restarting. The LHC had already demonstrated ca 10h stable beams, and now also stable beams in both directions at the same time. In the coming weeks, we need only wait for increased intensity and the first attempts at acceleration."

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  1. Obligatory by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is the LHC insured for collisions?

    1. Re:Obligatory by daeley · · Score: 5, Funny

      Boy, you sure lepton that joke in a hurry.

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    2. Re:Obligatory by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 5, Funny
      and whoosh to you, too. He was pointing out that this is a hadron collider, so lepton jokes don't make any sense.

      I could say, I suppose, that if he wants to talk about leptons, you need to give him some SLAC... but I won't.

      (typos, on the other hand-- the one where the "r" and the "d" switch order in the word "hadron"-- would be appropriate... but still tasteless.)

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    3. Re:Obligatory by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Funny

      Boy, you sure lepton that joke in a hurry.

      He's strange like that.

    4. Re:Obligatory by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 4, Funny

      Boy, you sure lepton that joke in a hurry.

      You're a quarky one, aren't you...

    5. Re:Obligatory by 42forty-two42 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      When hadrons collide, leptons certainly do come out as debris; I'm sure the LHC will be dealing with plenty of them soon enough.

    6. Re:Obligatory by tool462 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Let me guess, as a practical joke you loosen the covalent bonds in the secretaries dress just before the friday staff meeting.

      Are you kidding me? That kind of crap is for chemists. We physicists just let our wave functions interact until there is barrier penetration through tunneling. We enforce strict segregation of fermions, but boson-on-boson action is encouraged. As a fermion, I'm usually spin-up when I see their wave functions collapsing.

  2. Re:The real question is... by Shakrai · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...when should we throw our end-of-the-world parties?

    Today. I've already maxed out my credit cards and slept with the neighbors wife. I'd imagine he's gonna be pretty ticked off when he finds out but I'm hoping the LHC destroys the planet before he gets home ;)

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  3. Data from first collision through CMS detector by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 5, Informative
    http://cmsdoc.cern.ch/cms/performance/FirstBeam/pictures221109/CollisionEvent.png

    The beams aren't squeezed right now, just centered. You have a higher probability of collisions when they're squeezed (which will be coming up shortly). It was very cool to be in the control room when the first collision took place =)

    1. Re:Data from first collision through CMS detector by baldass_newbie · · Score: 4, Funny

      It was very cool to be in the control room when the first collision took place =)

      I have to say, you kept the coffee fresh, even though you forgot to add sweetener to mine.

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    2. Re:Data from first collision through CMS detector by siddesu · · Score: 5, Funny

      And there is a live video feed available here: http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

    3. Re:Data from first collision through CMS detector by 42forty-two42 · · Score: 4, Informative

      And here are the real webcams.

  4. Since the world is about to end... by dan_sdot · · Score: 5, Funny

    LAST POST!!!!1

  5. There's a nice formula to show the world won't end by Xeriar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The formula: N(>E) = k(E + 1)^-a

    N is impacts per second
    E is the impact energy in in GeV
    k is ~5,000 particles per steradian per square meter per second
    a is about 1.6.

    So the ground your feet occupy get a dozen or so such collisions per day, and so on.

  6. Crossing the Streams by sexconker · · Score: 5, Informative

    Despite all the hoopla, all they've really done is cross the streams.

    Today the LHC circulated two beams simultaneously for the first time, allowing the operators to test the synchronization of the beams and giving the experiments their first chance to look for proton-proton collisions. With just one bunch of particles circulating in each direction, the beams can be made to cross in up to two places in the ring. From early in the afternoon, the beams were made to cross at points 1 and 5, home to the ATLAS and CMS detectors, both of which were on the look out for collisions. Later, beams crossed at points 2 and 8, ALICE and LHCb.

    An important step, sure. But low-speed collisions and beam tuning are not what the LHC is designed to do. It's akin to a pitcher throwing a few warmup pitches - he won't be bringing the heat til he's out on the mound, he's just trying to make sure he shoulder is fucking healed after he blew it out in his first opening game.

    By the end of the year we should have some real info about the first useful collisions.

    1. Re:Crossing the Streams by macbeth66 · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's akin to a pitcher throwing a few warmup pitches...

      Huh?

      Could you put that into a car analogy?

    2. Re:Crossing the Streams by Nadaka · · Score: 5, Funny

      Its like a weabo revving the engine of his pimped out ricer at a stoplight. Don't worry, there is a pretty decent chance it will throw a rod when he actually puts it in gear.

    3. Re:Crossing the Streams by Bucc5062 · · Score: 4, Funny

      its like the warm up laps at Talledega (NASCAR) before they throw the green flag. You know there is going to be a big collision after the start, you just don't know when and how big. For the End of the World it would be if all 43 cars got wrecked so bad that not one could continue the race. Game over.

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    4. Re:Crossing the Streams by kungfugleek · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's akin to a car throwing a few warmup pitches.

  7. Hmm... by mea37 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apparently the future has given up its battle against the LHC. Take that, Nature!

  8. That was... quick by tsa · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't understand all this hoopla about why it took so long. When a new machine is brought into our clean room, it usually takes three months before it runs more or less smoothly. The LHC is a bit bigger than our cleanroom and has many more parts. So much more has to be tested, finetuned, etc. before it can even be brought up after a big repair like it had. I think almost two years is a good time in which to do the repair and all that tweaking.

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  9. Re:The real question is... by oldspewey · · Score: 5, Funny

    A few small points of information for you:

    Your neighbor actually won't be ticked off when he finds out. Quite the contrary, he's gonna be highly aroused and in the mood for a wet & messy threesome. He's also extremely well endowed and has been eyeing you for some time already.

    So in summary, you're still hoping the LHC destroys the planet before he gets home.

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  10. I other news... by webdog314 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "The LHC was shut down again today due to an accident involving a champagne cork."

  11. Banging rocks together... by White+Shade · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think what I love most about the LHC and whatnot is that, despite all the incredible and amazing science and technology and innovation and potential for learning behind it, what it really comes down to is just us banging rocks together and watching what happens, just like humans have been doing throughout history. It just happens that this time, the rocks are incredibly tiny and incredibly fast.

    Kinda puts it all in perspective, in kind of a cool way, IMO.

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    1. Re:Banging rocks together... by Gryle · · Score: 4, Informative

      Scientific research often usually comes down to "what happens when I mix these two things together?" and "poke it with a stick and see what happens." The biggest variation is the type of stick we use.

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  12. GNOME by Ivan+Stepaniuk · · Score: 4, Informative

    Some screenshots at the CERN site show GNOME's 'Clearlooks' window manager theme. At least BSOD will not be a source for further delays.

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  13. And Fermilab is on board with it by liquiddark · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Despite the so-called "rivalry" too many science "news" outlets have played up, Fermilab puts it on the front page. Always nice to recall that in the end everyone benefits from this big boy coming online.

  14. First Collisions? by sconeu · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sounds like they should have used a switch instead of a hub. Then there wouldn't be collisions.

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  15. Re:There's a nice formula to show the world won't by sconeu · · Score: 4, Funny

    What about the Poop concentration?

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  16. Yay, another solid page of black hole jokes. by PaganRitual · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why even bother posting LHC news on /. anymore. It's just top to bottom black hole and collision jokes. The bottom of the barrel has been scraped, and you guys have worked your way through the wood and there is light peeking through on the other side. No funny can escape from this. These are the same jokes that occur every day in the upper atmosphere at much higher humor levels than we can manage. The universe is actively avoiding the discovery of a funny black hole joke, and will mysteriously break any attempts to discover it.

  17. An open letter to Slashdotters. by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 4, Funny
    Sorry, I've got some bad news for you all. The world did end, and everyone died. "But," you ask, "if I'm dead, why am I still at work?"

    Uh, yeah, about that. We're kind of swamped up here with all the new souls looking to get in, so we've decided to fast track certain predominantly Godless groups to eternal damnation. You're now stuck at work.

    Forever.

    Respectfully yours,
    The Archon V2.0
    Trainee mortal/immortal liason, New Media Department, Heaven.

  18. Re:The real question is... by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 4, Funny

    Read carefully:

    It's a HADRON collider.

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  19. Re:As I learned in driver's education by More_Cowbell · · Score: 4, Funny

    we're still two years away from Dec 21st 2012

    I applaud your math skills, good sir!

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  20. Re:I for one... by x2A · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What have logical arguments got to do with scared idiots?

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