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Ubuntu Reaching Out To 16,000 Anime Lovers

shadowmage13 writes "After months of planning, I am happy to announce finally that the Ubuntu Massachusetts Local Community Team will be preparing a booth at the upcoming 2010 Anime Boston convention. We need support from the community to secure a booth and print materials, including copies of the Ubunchu! manga. I really believe the Anime fandom is a perfect match for Ubuntu, as they are by nature very much in line with open source and remix culture."

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  1. There is one problem, though by Enleth · · Score: 5, Funny

    Neither Tux, nor any Ubuntu release mascott I know of has tentacles.

    OTOH, one of the protagonists in NGE was a penguin, so there's still hope for acceptance...

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    1. Re:There is one problem, though by Enleth · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Oh, well, I'm glad that most of the anime culture has one thing in common, despite the (impressive, indeed) diversity - a sense of humor. Humor, which is present in all but the most serious and gloomy works, and often expressed in making fun of the work itself

      Besides, if you bothered to read the second sentence of my post, you could've even realized that it doesn't belong strictly on the "linux side".

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    2. Re:There is one problem, though by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ubuntu has dropped the GIMP to bring the distro into mainstream eyes, and you want to associate it with anime?

      The fact that the first comment was about hentai and tentacles just shows you how daft of an idea that is. I'm all for exposing Ubuntu to a wider audience, but association with non-mainstream media is what they're trying to avoid.

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    3. Re:There is one problem, though by suisui · · Score: 3, Funny

      GIMP was dropped so they could make room for Comix and the non-free video codecs. Lucid Lynx will be shipped with the first 20 volumes of One Piece, and a torrent for the Love Hina DVD-rip.

    4. Re:There is one problem, though by vadim_t · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The only one I've heard of is Pokemon. That is mainstream anime. I've seen bits of others on adult swim, but none that I've liked.

      Whether you like it or not doesn't have to do with whether it's mainstream.

      I agree, the one way to get people to avoid Linux like the plague is to associate it with weird Japanese adult cartoons.

      If you think Pokemon is adult, you sure have low standards for what adult is.

      Really, this obsession with adult anime people have is odd. It's like trying to reject the entire cinema medium based on the existence of porn movies. I've got friends that have bookcases full with hundreds of anime DVDs, and there's no porn in there.

    5. Re:There is one problem, though by initialE · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Let me introduce you to Madobe Nanami, the official mascot of Windows 7 Japanese edition. Voiced by a popular voice actress even. Microsoft feels anime is good enough for mainstream.

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  2. Seems like by mxh83 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    it would be more productive to fix 9.10 first

    1. Re:Seems like by mxh83 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's bad enough that I would no longer recommend that anyone switch to it. Because if they have a crappy experience, they'll never try linux again.

    2. Re:Seems like by SeaFox · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hello. Anime fan here.

      They need to fix SOUND in general in Linux, so it, like, just works. I have a dual boot system (WinXP64 and Kumubtu 9.10), and if there's one thing I'm having trouble with it's getting sound working on any video player. Regular system sound is fine, Amarok can play, too. But I haven't been able to get a video player that has a good interface, decent playback abilities for the latest codecs and subtitle formats, and sound working all at the same time. Some of this has to do with mplayer waiting forever to release a new "official version" so distributors would update their packages. Maybe some of it has to do with me using a USB audio device, but in general it's application and the O/S not working together on working with the "default" audio output setting in preferences and not supporting other methods (ALSA/PulseAudio/etc.) without config tweaking.

      I can download and run VLC for Windows and it works as soon as it's installed, it should be the same on Linux, especially since all the VLC developers are Linux developers and not really focused on Windows.

      Getting sound to work in video players (or audio players, web browsers, etc) has been a trial for me going back years.

  3. Yeah, right! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Because another 16.000 clueless, facebooking, twittering and oh-so-creative metrosexuals is EXACTLY what the Ubuntu community needs.

    1. Re:Yeah, right! by migla · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because another 16.000 clueless, facebooking, twittering and oh-so-creative metrosexuals is EXACTLY what the Ubuntu community needs.

      Well, total world domination, or even some sort of world domination would have to include some clueless, facebooking, twittering and oh-so-creative metrosexuals too. Besides, maybe some of the clueless, facebooking, twittering and oh-so-creative metrosexuals will show their newly found OS to some not so clueless, facebooking, twittering and oh-so-creative metrosexuals. Sure, the clueless, facebooking, twittering and oh-so-creative metrosexuals aren't the most important movers and shakers, but you do what you can. Any convert could send ripples of Freedom through our culture.

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    2. Re:Yeah, right! by tonycheese · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, I'm sure that's exactly the attitude Linux needs to gain market share: bigotry and elitism. Keep it up guys, year of the Linux is coming any day now.

    3. Re:Yeah, right! by Velex · · Score: 3, Funny

      We called them "yuppies" - would that term be demeaning enough?

      But that word doesn't have "sex" in it, and it doesn't sound like the words "homosexual" or "transsexual." As we know, sex is dirty enough, but homosexuals and transsexuals are all disease-ridden, AIDS-infested, sex-crazed, godless, hedonistic, er..., I'm sure there are a few more words I could use along those lines but I haven't had my tea^H^H^Hcoffee yet (of course I'm a real man! tea is for girls!). At any rate, no, "yuppie" wasn't demeaning enough.

      Besides, someone who's young and upper class might just be well-connected and a hard worker. Homosexuals, transsexuals, and their newest effiminate (nothing worse than being feminine, a fate worse than death) sexual deviant might be well-connected, but hard-working, even deserving? Pfft. </troll>

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    4. Re:Yeah, right! by lxs · · Score: 4, Funny

      I believe it's "Apple users"

    5. Re:Yeah, right! by 0racle · · Score: 3, Funny

      Bigotry and elitism got Linux this far, don't knock what works.

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  4. I Had to Read This 5 Times... by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...but now I think I get it: You're asking us to donate money so that your local Linux User Group can have a booth at your local anime convention.

    Did I get that right? If so, props for chutzpah, my brother...

  5. Re:Whisky Tango Foxtrot by SharpFang · · Score: 5, Informative

    A booth.
    Some news.

    Every year Ubuntu reaches out to 450,000 fans of various alternative music - punk rock, folk and many others, at Woodstock Stop in Poland.
    (they have a small tent where they give out CDs and leaflets, and talk about the system.)

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  6. The next distrobution is going to be called ... by DeadDecoy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Touchy Tentacle. It will feature advanced social networking services that will allow people to finger their friends over Twitter, Facebook, Pidgin, etc and see what they're up to. Their new motto will be: "Linux for Human Beings and their noodly appendages.".

  7. The English translation of Ubunchu is still flawed by Shin-LaC · · Score: 5, Funny

    I sent the maintainer some corrections back in April, but he thought my criticisms were too harsh and chose to ignore them.

    Sometimes the translators simply failed to grasp the meaning of the original text. In panel 3, the girl says "Yokenna, kono!" ("Why you, don't dodge!") and the boy replies "Maji iteendazo!" ("Those really hurt, you know!"; they are both referring to the CDs she's throwing), but in the English translation it turns into "Stop messing around! It can't be any good!". The third girl's line, "Hamori nagara kenka shinaidee!", is not so easy to render in English, but it definitely doesn't mean "Stop talking at the same time!": it means "You were speaking in unison a minute ago [panel 2], so don't fight now!"

    Other times, the translation is clumsy. In panel 1, "Saikin ninki no desktop na Linux desu!" ("It's the most popular desktop Linux these days!" - or, more literally, "It's a desktop Linux that is popular these days") becomes "It is very popular with the users, and it is the hottest desktop Linux distribution available."
    And that's just the first page.

    I reported these and more flaws months ago, but since the maintainer took offense to my harsh but polite comment ("the translation should be redone", I said), he simply rejected the "patch". It's hard not to crack wise that this is just like a real open source project. :-)
    (Actually, I know most maintainers aren't like that, so hold those Flamebait mods. :P)

  8. Re:I'm an Anime fan... by clickclickdrone · · Score: 3, Funny

    >and I think Ubuntu is fucking stupid.
    Sums it up nicely. This has to be the dumbest combination of two random things since someone tried to sell Windows 95 at a double glazing exhibition. Hey, we all like the word window, right? Don't we?

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  9. Problems for anime fans with Linux by abigsmurf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There are some big problems anime fans will have with using Linux: Windows boxes are more capable media players. I generally prefer Zoomplayer and MPC-HC to stuff like VLC (although this is naturally personal preference) but a big issue is the lack of Blu Ray playing capability under Linux.

    There's also gaming, with the exception of Onscript based games, very few visual novels play well with Linux and most Tohou/doujin shooters are Windows only.

  10. This is great! by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 3, Funny

    This will give Ubuntu the mainstream credibility we've been seeking!

  11. Anime on Ubuntu? Seriously?? by ThePhilips · · Score: 4, Informative

    I really believe the Anime fandom is a perfect match for Ubuntu, as they are by nature very much in line with open source and remix culture.

    That is getting stupider over time - considering that out of box Ubuntu can't play 99% of anime found on say mininova.

    And even after installing all possible drivers, applications and codecs, Linux video playback - especially as anime concerned - is still eons behind of CCCP on Windows.

    And what about the "remix culture" reference? Manga and anime fandom is interesting because there are more people who do new/original stuff - and few who rehash the old stuff. And even if they "remix" (what a stupid word lessig came up with) they still do it their own way, not some dumb copy paste like what many CC-lovers do.

    Ubunchu!

    That is manga, not anime.

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    1. Re:Anime on Ubuntu? Seriously?? by shish · · Score: 3, Informative

      considering that out of box Ubuntu can't play 99% of anime found on say mininova.

      I clicked a .mkv, it said "I don't have a codec installed, shall I find one?", I clicked "yes", and it did, then it played. Not "out of the box" in the literal sense, but pretty close, and better than googling for codecs...

      (Though after checking that it worked, I still went back to mplayer, which has so far played 100% of things I've thrown at it, and with hardware accelerated decoding now too :-P )

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    2. Re:Anime on Ubuntu? Seriously?? by ThePhilips · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You sound like you never heard of mplayer. I have been watching anime on Linux weekly for years, in several formats like mpeg, divx, realmedia and mkv!

      B.S.

      Softsubs were relatively recently properly implemented in Mplayer. (Though "couple of years" technically is "for years" too.)

      Likewise, proper MKV support is also very young. Before Mplayer wasn't demuxing the files properly nor could switch between audio/subtitle channels on the file. Due to bogus demuxing audio skips were also common.

      I'm not an Ubuntu user, I love the simplicity of elden distros like Debian and Slackware. Maybe it's just that Ubuntu doesn't have an mplayer package, or has its very own "Super Cool Ubuntu Media Player" that overshines it. Could anybody enlight me?

      Getting Mplayer never was a problem. In past I was often even compiling it myself. No big deal.

      The problem is getting the rest of it to work: audio and video.

      Audio on Linux is a total mess, unless of course you are lucky to have single sound card in your PC (and distro of your choice hasn't succumbed to PulseAudio madness). Many have at least two, since modern MBs have some primitive card always on-board. Managing two sound cards under Linux is still a must, since most applications (Mplayer included) do not integrate with KDE or Gnome and bypass most of the configuration.

      Video and video acceleration is much cleaner on Linux. In sense that it is completely absent. And to smoothly playback H.264 files of 720p/bigger resolutions one need either H/W accelerated video playback (which is mostly absent) or properly optimized H.264 decoder (and forked ffmpeg of Mplayer isn't).

      If you would limit you statement that you have watched DivX/XViD anime for years then I might believe you. Otherwise - B.S.

      Next on Slashdot: Linux is way too hard to develop on, it doesn't have a Visual Studio alternative!

      Don't be idiot. I develop for *NIX and my WS is a Linux. For past 10 years (I have started on SuSE 6.2 in 1999). The problem is that kernel team refuses to manage kernel related libraries and interfaces and in Linux scape there not a single entity dealing with multimedia issues. Thus the chaos and frustration - due to lack of organization. Developer are there. But with distros being openly anti-multimedia not much can be done about it.

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  12. Re:What? Why? Huh? by Maguscrowley · · Score: 4, Informative

    "children's cartoon shows"

    Granted their intentions are dubious, there's no need to illegitimate a fandom because you don't appreciate it. Anime is marketed for ages up to 35 and covers a wide range of genres not appropriate for children for reasons ranging from violence and sexual content (hentai gore etc) to slow moving plots and novel based stories which children would find boring or would not understand. I doubt that Grave of the Firefly's could be classified as a children's cartoon show, neither could Monster, Mushishi, and the Ghost in the Shell is really marketed at older teens to those in their late 20's.

    You may not have even heard of most of these and that is probably because US TV doesn't think they should bother showing anime that is more for an older crowd that can appreciate serious themes. Part of that is because they know that people like you will turn on the tv, see animation, and immediately classify it as a children's show and switch. I'm going to guess that you're either someone in their late 20's or above and that you've only been exposed to things like Naruto, Sailor moon, Pokemon, etc and had an entire childhood of cartoons for kids.

    I am not going to ask you to research or explore this beyond your exposure, but I will ask that you please not make an uninformed generalisation about a whole medium based on maybe filtered exposure to one of it's genres. It would also be nice for you not to be a dick.

    Now get off my lawn kudasai

  13. Oblig XKCD by Lemming+Mark · · Score: 5, Funny

    Guys, I'm disappointed you haven't got here already. http://xkcd.com/178/

  14. Yay! Stereotypes! by GameboyRMH · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Most anime fans tend to have above-average computer skills, and I'd say the clueless are a clear minority - but you don't ever see the intelligent ones making Youtube comments, shitty fan sites / fanfic / fan art or abusing facebook/twitter. In fact most of the anime friends I've met face-to-face have well above average intelligence - I have a relative who is a very successful game developer (has worked on a who's who list of awesome games), a huge hit with the ladies (top models have given him their phone numbers), speaks many different languages, and he's a huge anime fan. But he's artsy and metro and even uses social networking sites! You don't want his kind in the Linux community, right?

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