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SETI@Home Install Leads To School Tech Supervisor's Resignation

An anonymous reader writes "Apparently the most prolific of users in the SETI@Home community has resigned his job as a school technology supervisor after it was revealed he had the software installed on some 5000 school machines. The school claims to have lost $1 million in upkeep on the affected machines."

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  1. Oops by wamerocity · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I did this at my brothers company too. I thought that the program "ran on minimal resources" while the computers were being used. But shortly after installing them on a dozen programs, everyone was complaining about how slow their computers were, so I had to covertly remove them to hide the true reason why they were slow. Lesson learned. At least it didn't cost me my job.

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    1. Re:Oops by oljanx · · Score: 5, Funny

      The aliens have already done all of that protein folding nonsense. Once we make contact they'll share their technology, making your silly Folding@home obsolete.

  2. Guys, focus on what's important by cjfs · · Score: 5, Funny

    We just all went up a spot!

  3. Re:5,000 machines, US$1M by bzzfzz · · Score: 5, Informative

    40 watts x 24 hours x 365 days x 10 years x 5000 machines x $.06 /kwh = $1,051,200

  4. Re:But how is it a crime? by Delwin · · Score: 5, Informative

    The criminal part (that apparently wasn't in TFA) was the 18 school computers they found at his house that he'd taken home with him. This is a better source: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/11/30/20091130searchforaliens1202.html

  5. AUP? by flogger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most businesses or schools will have an Acceptable Use Policy. To paraphrase the AUP where I work, A person must have permission to install 3rd party software. This permission must come from building administration or Tech Department administration. If Joe Employee installs Seti without permission, that could be cause for termination. If I install Seti in my buildings' computers, it will be because I gave myself permission to do so. (Which I have, so I did.)

    However, this case seems to be with a difference of opinion. Ftfa: '"We support educational research and certainly would have supported cancer research," said Higley superintendent Denise Birdwell. "However, as an educational institution we do not support the search for E.T."'

    This is why the Tenure system was instituted. To prevent dismissals due to political or idealogical reasons. To say he would allow protein folding but not seti is asinine. When I decided between the two, I figured that finding ET would have a greater impact on society that a cure for cancer. Who knows, maybe ET will be able to help us cure diseases while curing diseases will not help us find ET.

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  6. Re:Would cancer research been a better use? by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 5, Funny

    The school administrator has already decided that there are no ETs, so it's silly to search for them. Science should only look for stuff we already know about! (:-)

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  7. Re:Commendable... by caffeinemessiah · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They were his machines to configure, as a technology supervisor. It's not like he hacked into the machines in the dark of night to set things up on the sly. Sure, his configuration may have been a failure as far as the business needs of the school system were concerned, but when TFA is claiming "there may be charges filed!!"

    Actually, I think it falls pretty squarely under most States' ethics laws as a violation. If I set up a Bittorent tracker using government computers, then I'm using bandwidth inappropriately, which violates ethics laws. This guy set up a SETI account in his own name, for whatever joy he gets from being at the top of SETI crunch lists, and used government-paid electricity for his own purposes. Over 5,000 computers with say (conservatively) 200W PSUs, that's not an insignificant amount of electricity/dollars. If my tax dollars went into it, I'd be kinda pissed (mainly because I'd prefer donating cycles to Folding@Home, but that's another story).

    A little silly? Perhaps, but judging the degree of his "ethics violation" and the subsequent consequences is the job of a judge or jury. The fact that an "ethics violation" that breaks an ethics law has been committed isn't really debatable.

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  8. Re:Commendable... by commodore64_love · · Score: 5, Insightful

    On the other hand, his contract never said he wasn't able to run these types of background calculation programs. Even superintendent Denise Birdwell admitted, "We support educational research and certainly would have supported cancer research." So the issue is not the installation of the program, which would have been okay if the technician had installed Cancer@Home instead.

    Furthermore Birdwell said the massive software cost the district more than $1 million in added utility fees and computer replacement parts. How did he arrive at this 1 million dollar figure? Can he produce actual calculations derived from collected data, or did he just pull the number from his nether region?

    I would not resign.

    I'd tell them, "Sorry I'll uninstall everything," and if they chose to fire me then I'd drag Mr. Birdwell into court to provide proof before a judge that I actually cost the school 1 million in damages. If they can't then it would be unjustified dismissal, and in violation of multiple employee-protection laws that exist when you work for a state government.

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  9. Re:But how is it a crime? by pythagory · · Score: 5, Insightful

    According to the documents, district officials said they found Niesluchowski had abused his authority in purchasing and oversight of district technology and equipment, downloaded pornography, and added to every district computer a University of California-Berkeley program that searches high-frequency radio signals for signs of intelligent life in outer space.

    Much better article. Apparently the firing/resignation wasn't really about SETI, that was just icing on the cake. Of course, leave it to the media to run away with the "crazy guy looking for aliens" angle.

  10. Re:Commendable... by Tynin · · Score: 5, Funny

    I almost lost my job when I was working in a NOC at a previous company. I was in charge of maintaining the monitoring and the machines that ran them. Really, these were workstations that were connected to a handful of monitors, all with webpages up that would refresh once a minute, they were not the servers that were running our actual monitoring software (firehunter, whatsup, big brother, etc) so since they were just running a few browsers they were never under any load. So I tossed SETI@Home on all these workstations, that no one uses, that just display browser windows, and it was all fine for several months.

    One day I came to work, and my boss was breathless (I wished physically, not just literally), he couldn't figure out why all these boxes were all running at 100% CPU. After several hours (he was SOOO slow) he figured out it was SETI. He tried in vain to prove it was me, I wasn't going to admit it, I knew that between him and HR they would hang me, over at best the theft of some company power (which is stupid because every linux admin had super shiny screensavers that their computers couldn't quite handle, and they had to be running at 100% util for 16+ hours each day once they went home). It's been a while since I've ran SETI, but what I recall is he could have figured out it was me if he knew to check the ID it was uploading the results under, then went to SETI's site and check the ID, which would have at least pointed him to the name Tynin, which since my personal email address uses tynin in it, it should have been the nail in my coffin. Luckly, he was incompetent, and missed that detail, and I sail past what would have been one of the more silly disasters of my life.

    If you are reading this Ed, please know your staff will celebrate the day you die, pizza and beer in the hallways!

  11. Re:Commendable... by DragonWriter · · Score: 5, Informative

    I agree, filing charges was way out of line. His only real mistake was not asking permission, and getting that permission in writing.

    Well, that, and lying about removing the software when the problems caused by it came to light and he was ordered by previous administrators to remove it.
    ...and downloading pornography using school computers.
    ...and, on top of all that, generally not doing the job he was hired to do.

    At least, that's what he is being accused of, according to this more complete article on the story.

    SETI@Home is not the only issue here.

  12. Re:Commendable... by pla · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, I think it falls pretty squarely under most States' ethics laws as a violation.

    I doubt most organization's ethics rules would cover this - Particularly since he had the authority to determine how he wanted to configure each machine, and in no way profited from his actions. As for the cost of electricity (I think we can safely write the rest of the claims of "accelerated hardware depreciation" off as complete BS, talkin' about school lab computers, not a datacenter here), although he really should have considered that, I wouldn't call it beyond the realm of possibility that he simply didn't. Keep in mind he started doing this before self-throttling CPUs became popular, meaning it made next to no difference in power consumption whether you kept your CPU idle or pegged at 100%.


    If I set up a Bittorent tracker using government computers, then I'm using bandwidth inappropriately, which violates ethics laws.

    Although most organizations actually do have rules specifically relating to network use (as opposed to what screensavers you may run, about which I've never seen anything more than "no porn walpaper/screensavers/themes"), in the absence thereof and depending on the terms of internet connection, I would arguably call that less abusive. If you have a flat fee for a fixed bandwidth, and limited your use to legitimate works (ie, no porn or copyright violations) and made sure it never interfered with legitimate traffic, such use costs the organization literally nothing. But... Beside the point.

    I will further defend this guy for having school-owned hardware at his house - Schools and local governments rarely have proper procedures in place for EOL'ing older computers. I personally had two from a local college that technically would have counted as "stolen property" if it ever came up, but I had obtained them by as close to kosher means as possible (the guy in charge of their computer labs, the father of a friend, had literally hundreds of decommissioned PCs piled floor to ceiling in a storage area and begged anyone who dropped by to take a few). So if he had a dozen brand new quad-core boxes the district didn't even know they bought, okay, problem; If he had a collection of P4s and 32-bit Athlons in various states of disrepair, I'd have a hard time returning a guilty verdict on that jury.

    Personally, the fact that they let him resign makes me wonder about the truth of the issue. Given the facts as stated - Generally abusing the hell out of his authority, outright failing to do his job, and stealing from the school - I find it mind-boggling that they wouldn't have him arrested and fired for cause, never mind the "spend more time with his family" line.

  13. Re:Commendable... by Ed.the.Manager · · Score: 5, Funny

    Luckly, he was incompetent, and missed that detail, and I sail past what would have been one of the more silly disasters of my life. If you are reading this Ed, please know your staff will celebrate the day you die, pizza and beer in the hallways!

    Why you dirty son of a %$#& Ty, you'll pay for this! I knew it was you! No more pizza and beer for anyone or you're all fired!

  14. Re:$1 Million... Really? by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...after it was revealed he had the software installed on some 5000 school machines.

    IIRC, this guy was in charge of about 5000 computers.

    Your memory is astounding.

  15. That's why I run NUKES@HOME by tjstork · · Score: 5, Funny

    The world's population is already too high, and growing beyond the unsustainable level. While it's nice to think we can get rid of something that causes pain and death, pain and death are part of life. If you reduce the death rate, you'll have to reduce the reproduction rate.

    My school district's network of 8000 computers is running NUKES@HOME, helping our government figure out ways to build better nuclear weapons to save the planet for the right kind of humanity.

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  16. Re:Commendable... by tomhudson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the comments in this article (thanks to this post) from people who are there, it sounds like a real hatchet job.

    Salient points:

    • The computers were configured to run 24/7 by school policy. A previous attempt to get them to run only from 6am to 6pm was met with "you're not allowed to do that" by the school board, even though it was explained that it would save $90k per annum in electricity.
    • The $$$ quoted are to fix the infrastructure problems - including needing a new building - not the "damage" that was done.
    • The photo supposedly showing "bad cable management" is abut what you'd expect - it's not like schools are going to make spending money on cable management and wiring closets a high priority - this is what happens to systems that grow over the period of a decade with management saying "here's some more stuff - make it work" rather than "here's the funds and the plan on how we want this rolled out over the long term". So yes, they now say they're going to need a couple of hundred dollars a computer to "fix" a decades' worth of "just make it work".
    • Other staff have quit or been forced out
    • The timing of all this seems to have been motivated more by school district politics than anything else
  17. Re:Commendable... by tomhudson · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Linky http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/147847

    hopeful4higley wrote:

    Gee, it seems rather odd to me that all of the blame is being placed on one person when Brad was clearly told that he was not in charge earlier this year when David Lignon, (who happens to be partially related to Dr. Birdwell) was put in charge of the entire IT dept and all of Brads team were basically told not to ask questions but do what was told of them. This is just a small example of how things are run around there.

    The problems in the classroom with computers or not being able to enter grades could have alot to do with the fact that they keep changing systems and the person that used to assist the teachers was forced to leave as well this year. How about the fact that most of the IT department walked out earlier this year???? Yep, blame it all on one person, that seems to be easier than just fixing the problems in the district.

    Dr. Birdwell, do you ever take blame for ANYTHING? You are not the only one living a nightmare, the entire staff (past, present) as well as the parents and most important, the students have lived a nightmare for the last 4 years as well. You had an opportunity to jump ship and go to Wyoming last year and ASKED to stay here for stability. THe only ones that seem to have stability are yourself and your posse of friends and family YOU have brought on board. Instead of pointing fingers, take a long hard look in the mirror and ask if YOU have made a positive difference.

    ... and ...

    0xym0r0n wrote:

    higleyknight09: 'A school computer should be used 8 hours a day for 183 days. Not 24 hours a day for 365 day that is six times more than normal. Of course computers would eventually fail.'

    Hate to burst your bubble, but computers will always fail. Not to mention that there is even the argument that turning PC's off causes more damage than letting them run 24/7, mostly when talking about the hard drives. If the district wanted PC's that wouldn't fail they certainly shouldn't have gone with laptops.

    They would also not spend an alleged $15,000 in consulting services to find out what could easily be told to them by their own tech department. Which I would also have to say that, that figure alone seems shady to me.

    Your other assumption is that the shutdown button is removed via the image and that this was done intentionally by Mr. Niesluchowski in order to run SETI 24/7, possible yes... but impossible to prove. There are other things that need to be done, such as staff connecting remotely to fix issues, updates that can be pushed, ect ect. However, the shutdown option being removed is not a result of the image yet a policy set against users.

    It's unfortunate that the majority of posts I read simply follow the assumptions made by such horrid reporting skills and like a mindless drone, babble on and on about how bad this guy is. I mean, it's not like teachers install unapproved software that plagues half the district with unseen malware and viruses... oh but I guess the loses estimated by that would never even be considered by people so eager to jump down the throats of others.

    The analysis of these findings of coarse will never be displayed, being that the true energy driven cost of damages would be a simple calculation of the cost per computer would be total watt usage - usage of standard pc in the same environment. As opposed to the method that probably was used, which was amount of watts used during non-school hours(estimated to the worst degree).

    The biggest thing though, that none of you know is, did he have permission to deploy said software at one point in time? Or that he had permission to have hardware at his place of residence. See, it's so easy to read a column in a newspaper and say 'Wow! That guy needs to be put away.'. So continue to post on this topic, yet.. you have higley in your name an

  18. Re:Commendable... by tomhudson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Perhaps you need to get some reading comprehension skills.

    They are estimating close to $2 million to fix all the problems this guy caused,

    Nope - they estimate that for fixing the problems with the network, etc., that have accumulated over a decade of lack of funds, etc. This includes things like a secure building for the servers. Certainly not his fault.

    The "downloading porn" is an unproven allegation. If we were to fire every admin who's ever downloaded something that a prude would consider "porn" (like accidentally clicking on a goatguy or tubgirl link), there'd be no admins left.

    figure removing SETI@home alone will cost at least $50,000, and if they are contracting the work out (they will probably have to) it will cost more like $100,000-$150,000 because of project overhead and profit markup for the consultant.

    $10 to $30 per computer to click the "uninstall" button? I don't think so, Clyde.

    The very article you linked to says that it was SETI@home that tipped them off, because it almost imediately severely impacted their system.

    Those whiteboards have been reported elsewhere to have deployment problems - it has nothing to do with seti@home, and yu'd have known that if you had a clue. It also certainly didn't "immediately impart their system" if it's been running for almost a decade.

    As for the rest - "taking computer equipment home" is often done with obsolete systems or "parts boxes", the "increased network usage" is 150 tb over 10 years, which sounds like a lot, but is really 41 gigs a day or less than 10 meg per box a day - incidental traffic (think 10-20 slashdot pages - heck, I've done 400 gigs in one month on a single box at home without breaking a sweat) - that wouldn't interfere with normal network usage in a system capable of supporting 5,000 computers. As for the "punching holes in the firewall" - you might want to read this and this - do you have a problem with ports 80 (http) and 443 (https/ssl) being "open"?

    He apparently compromised the security of the entire network just to run this app, if that doesn't scream unethical and incompetant to you, then I don't think anything will.

    Riiight - having ports open so that users can surf the web is a terrible thing - quick - block ports 80 and 443 on your machine! It's a security risk!

    Don't be a tool, mkay?