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US No Longer Leading the World In Spam
darthcamaro writes "America is no longer the spam king. According to Cisco, US-originated spam dropped by over two trillion messages — American-based IP addresses sent about 6.2 trillion spam messages. The new world leader is Brazil at 7.7 trillion messages. 'I'm not completely surprised to see US falling to number two in the spam stats, but I didn't expect it to happen yet,' said Cisco Fellow Patrick Peterson. 'I was really gratified to see the actual spam volume decrease, not just ranking, but we [also] decreased the amount of spam that is pouring out of the United States.'" The drop in US spam might have had something to do with the temporary shutdown of the McColo spam ISP.
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More than 122 million cans of the SPAM® family of products are sold worldwide each year, 90 million in the U.S. alone.
Sounds to me like the US is still the leader!
Clearly, this shows that the oft-suggested tactic of countering spam with fines, kidnapping, prison, and murder, is working extremely well. Just look at how we are no longer the top country for spam to originate from!
Except that of course it is well known that most spam is pumped out of botnets. And the botnets are usually spread out all over the world. Really, this just tells us that less spamming botnet activity is coming from the US than Brazil in that particular observed time frame. This could be attributed to any of a number of factors.
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How did they manage to get the 2009 results out so early?
I demand a recount!
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Recently I started getting 15 mod points every time they get allotted, whereas I used to only get 5. I've also noticed a lot more of the comments seem to be getting moderation, so I'm assuming 15 is the new norm. Just curious and wanted to confirm this. Thanks
I thought it was bad enough when the U. S. was falling behind the rest of the world in health care and science education. Now we've fallen behind in spam generation as well?!?! Come on people! This is a wake-up call if ever I heard one!
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Huh huh. You said number two . Heh heh.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
I had no idea Brazil used Cyrillic character set.
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"The drop in US spam might have had something to do with the temporary shutdown of the McColo spam ISP"
Oh, really?
According to the very links kdawson uses to back this idea up, the botnet was off line for what, maybe 2 weeks... out of a 52 week year. So if they accoutned for all of the US spam, that outage would result in a drop of 4%.
But looking at the other numbers in TFS, it looks like there was in fact a drop of something like 25%.
So yes, it may have had something to do with it. In the same sense that the increase in temperature in my house may have had something to do with letting the dog back in (but probably had more to do with having the furnace repaired).
Finally we are leading something other than the eventual World Cup. It has been a good year, first we beat Argentine at "deaths from Swine Flu" competition, now we have beaten the US on Spam. Nothing can stop us now.
now where am i going to buy my viagra?! doomed to be a geeky placid virgin for life!
You can't blame bad US management of SPAM distribution. I think it's the economic situation. Give us a few years and we'll be on top again. As an American, I take pride that we are the top at everything, and have no doubt we'll return there once this bad economic weather blows over.
Geez, I dropped the known .br IP blocks into a blackhole years ago. This may explain why my just-for-spam address receipts have been dropping.
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Does this make the US dollar spam? We print about five trillion a year.
What I'd like to see is statistics on where the spam-producing criminals are, and where are their "customers", rather than counting where the botnet is. I bet Brazilians, Russians or Chinese aren't doing that much good business in selling Viagra (may contain plaster) or Genuine Quartz Rolexes, or more importantly, buying them. IMHO: if you eliminated the spam that either comes from American criminals or which is targeted at Americans, there'd be no spam.
It's because there's only so much spam that can be sent on a slow third-world rate internet infrastructure.
Are we world leaders in anything anymore? Sheesh!
C'mon, team USA! Get out there and spam one for the Gipper!
We used to be the best at everything.
Then we lost our position in the world as upholders of human rights.
Followed by our economy going down the drain.
Then the dollar lost its place as best currency.
Now we're losing our position as Spam leaders?!
There's nothing left.. I'm jumping out of the sinking ship!
The new world leader is Brazil at 7.7 trillion messages.
From now on, 7.7 trillion will be known as one Brazilian.
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What I'd like to see is statistics on where the spam-producing criminals are, and where are their "customers", rather than counting where the botnet is
That may be a more difficult question than you might expect. Finding the person who is writing the spam and sending instructions to the botnet to send the spam is one thing, but it isn't the only thing. As we have seen before, there are plenty more spammers available to take the place of any who might fall from the top.
The customers, however are another thing entirely. While many of our favorite spammers may be in a few select locations, their customers are generally distributed all over the world - or so we would believe from the WHOIS data. Unfortunately, there isn't generally much better records for the customers than the WHOIS data for the domains that are being spamvertised. And we know that the WHOIS data is itself generally questionable on a good day and utter crap any other day. Of course you could also trace the IP address of the webserver for the spamvertised domain, but that will only lead to to where the site is hosted, which doesn't tell you where the "company" actually is.
I bet Brazilians, Russians or Chinese aren't doing that much good business in selling Viagra (may contain plaster) or Genuine Quartz Rolexes, or more importantly, buying them
As I said earlier, those classifiers depend on who you are trying to describe. I can tell you from my experience that a significant portion of the spam I receive is spamvertising domains registered in Russia or China. And there are often other servers along the way to keep the operation going that are distributed in various places in Pacific Ocean countries, Africa, or South America. Although of course since the registrars are generally in on the deal, they are intentionally posting garbage WHOIS records for the domains in question.
IMHO: if you eliminated the spam that either comes from American criminals
Again that comes down to how you classify the criminals. Spamming is generally an international endeavor now, though.
or which is targeted at Americans, there'd be no spam
I think an argument could be made that not much spam anymore really targets any particular country. I would say that a primary reason why so much spam is written in English is just because it is one of the most read languages on the internet; hence a spam in English has a very good chance of getting to someone who can read English. When Mandarin or Hindi take over we'll see more spam in those languages (I have seen Chinese and Japanese spam for years in some of my inboxes).
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I was self-appointed anti-spam czar at my last job, as I was absolutely convinced that nearly all our CPU criticals in Nagios were i/o bound, and that they were largely caused by spam. One time, I took a server (a dell 2950) down from a load of 15 to a load of 3, just by blocking one IP address I found connected to SMTP 6 times, and causing spamd to churn, according to the Exim logs. The majority of the spam that I saw would come from Brazil, Columbia and Italy. One time, we hit a flood so bad of Brazilian spam, that it maxed out SMTP connections on half our west coast shared hosting servers, and caused one of our caching nameservers to crash from all the rbl look-ups.
I can't really say I'm surprised by this at all.
That means it's almost time for all those "Top ten bla bla bla 2009" articles, doesn't it? Truly, my cup runneth over.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Couldn't "they" send TCP packets to target servers under the guise of having been sent from spambots?
Lots of alleged NSA affiliated IPs seem to be associated with ad/spam delivery:
http://cryptome.org/0001/nsa-ip-update14.htm
http://cryptome.org/0001/nsa-l3-peers.htm
Just askin'....
Couldn't "they" send TCP packets to target servers under the guise of having been sent from spambots?
Lots of alleged NSA affiliated IPs seem to be associated with ad/spam delivery:
http://cryptome.org/0001/nsa-ip-update14.htm
http://cryptome.org/0001/nsa-l3-peers.htm
Just askin'....
America is no longer the spam king. According to Cisco, US-originated spam dropped by over two trillion messages -- American-based IP addresses sent about 6.2 trillion spam messages. The new world leader is Brazil at 7.7 trillion messages.
These figures are over what span of time, a year? Calendar year 2008? Last week? One weekend? An acquaintance used to send most of his over weekends, when fewer senior admins were around to notice and more people were at home and likely to actually read mail and respond to sales offers, rather than just trashing messages like they do when they are in a hurry during the work week (not sure if this strategy worked). I got about 1.5 million just yesterday. No time to RTFA, after buying 7 Faulex watches, 3 mini helicopters, some stocks that will make me rich, and a pile pf penis pills.
This is a hacked account, for which the owner can not be held responsible.
Shouldn't the title be, US loses leadship position in internet technology and marketing?
't used to be LawnMOWER, really...
I thought this title belonged to a small Eastern-European nation http://www.theonion.com/content/video/spam_crackdown_threatens
7.7 trillion...
What a waste, the immenseness of counter-productivity is mind boggling. So much annoyance and so much overhead for a problem entirely maintained by human idiocy.
When will they wise up and stop doing stupid shit?
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Anything to keep the ratings. Today on "Those crazy apes", a planet that produced enough food for dinosaurs still has people starving on one side and unable to stand on their own legs on the other.
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Why is all the spam for US sites then? They're selling in dollars and, when they point to a site, the site is a .com address.
The source of spam may not be US, but the one getting the demand for spam out there is.
You are still world leader in CO2 pollution!
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