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Dad Delivers Baby Using Wiki
sonamchauhan writes "A Londoner helped his wife deliver their baby by Googling 'how to deliver a baby' on his mobile phone. From the article: 'Today proud Mr Smith said: "The midwife had checked Emma earlier in the day but contractions started up again at about 8pm so we called the midwife to come back. But then everything happened so quickly I realized Emma was going to give birth. I wasn't sure what I was going to do so I just looked up the instructions on the internet using my BlackBerry."'"
...to catch a critter that got into my basement.
God bless mobile Internet.
Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, START
how is babby delivered?
Was it a boy or a girl?
Nerd rage is the funniest rage.
I learned how to clean up forensic evidence from my basement....
Thank you Wikipedia!
Tsukasa: All I really want, is to be left alone...
The AT&T EDGE service on my Blackberry would have delivered the information by the baby's 1st birthday if I was lucky. That is making the assumption that the built in browser could actually load the webpage.
and with the story posted on slashdot, the article will soon be updated to lead dad-to-be to the strip club as a necessary part of birthing preparation....or tell them it actually comes out of a different hole
Anyone faced with a woman about to deliver, and their first thought is "I know, I'll go search around on google" is my hero.
And the worms ate into his brain.
Wait, if you were home, why would you need mobile internet? Or were there other circumstances keeping you from accessing your home net connection?
"I'm not sure I like the fugnutish tone you used in your post!" -RogL (608926)-
The internet can be used to answer all sorts of questions! I recently left my laptop unattended in the living room, and when I came back "How to get a threesome in Dragon Age" was in the search box.
The only question now is which one of my roommates needed to resort to a FAQ to figure that one out...
...to catch a critter that got into my basement.
Yeah, it's called get a cat ;)
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
Leroy said before the birth of Mahalia on December 1, his wife disapproved of his BlackBerry because he was always playing with it but now she has "changed her tune".
There was, but Apple pulled it after complaints. It was called Shaken Baby or something similar...
I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class, especially since I rule.
I recently needed to learn how to set a live trap to catch a critter that got into my basement.
God bless mobile Internet.
Peanut butter and chocolate.
This also works for catching girls.
I think your sig actually paraphrases what the article said.
That, if all the medical training that daddy received was a few minutes on Google, and things didn't go badly, the real headline ought to be: "Mother ejects baby in uncomplicated delivery"
The survival rates for childbirth without medical support are lousy enough to make medical support a generally good idea; but it isn't as though humans are exempt from the general mammalian ability to deliver live young without dying.
Maybe the computer wasn’t close at hand.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Of course it is. If having babies were easy, everyone would be doing it.
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Between Balls and Stupidity.
Glad he got it done!
How much is your data worth? Back it up now.
The most annoying bit is that Wikipedia has latched onto this... it had nothing to do with Wikipedia... but was in fact "WikiHow", completely independent.
If one doesn't know how to, how does one learn to google something on the internet?
For years I told people, "the information revolution has not yet begun." About six months ago, while eating breakfast at a little, podunk diner in a town of around 500 people, I got curious about what causes Tidal Locking. So, without thinking about it, I whipped out my iPhone and looked it up using Wikipanion.
Then, I realized what I was doing. I, as someone who knows basically nothing about orbital mechanics, was sitting in a little diner on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere and had access to more information than I could possibly use on an obscure, orbital-mechanical phenomenon. All on a whim. That's when I decided that "the information revolution has begun." It's not well-begun, it's not finished, it's not even fully taken shape yet. But it's begun.
"He who would learn astronomy, and other recondite arts, let him go elsewhere. " -- John Calvin, commenting on Genesis 1
It was a Wii Gameboy
"Wait...babies come from a girls...OMG"
That should be this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_locking. That'll teach me to flap my gums without pressing preview.
"He who would learn astronomy, and other recondite arts, let him go elsewhere. " -- John Calvin, commenting on Genesis 1
Now, I think it's a little early to start imposing roles on it, don't you?
I just looked up the article. Not that I exactly plan on doing things this way, but in a pinch the information could prove useful in a couple of months.
Just Bing it.
The baby didn't cry at first. Then it realized that its own father had just used a user-editable, non-authoritative guide to performing a life-and-death medical procedure, and it hasn't stopped crying since.
I prefer rogues to imbeciles because they sometimes take a rest.
This is form the British tabloid The Sun. I googled a few keywords and found no other mention of this except for a similar story in pravda.ru from 8th April this year, a Russian tabloid, with appropriately Russian names of the people involved and details.
http://english.pravda.ru/society/family/08-04-2009/107373-deliver_baby_mobile_phone-0
Wait, if you were home, why would you need mobile internet? Or were there other circumstances keeping you from accessing your home net connection?
Because he did not want to have to Goggle "how to clean afterbirth off of a laptop"...
You have the right to remain sentient. If you give up the right to remain sentient, you will be elected to public office
Which is particularly annoying because deletionists will be happy to tell you that Wikipedia Is Not A Manual Or Guidebook, so this could never have happened with Wikipedia in the first place.
is chistmasy
Well one kind of inevitably goes into the other.
Science advances one funeral at a time- Max Planck
You're Leroy Smith; you can do anything!
Never mind, I read the details in the Pravda.ru story, it's different. Still, it's The Sun so...
Glad he got it done!
At that point, neither he nor his Blackberry had much to do with the proceedings!
Unless the cat IS the critter that got into his basement...
Cheers, Chris
He probably read this wikiHow article
You should make a commercial about your experience with AT&T. Oh wait, there's a SLAPP for that...
(Yes, for the legal pedants out there, I know it's not the same, but nothing else rhymed quite the same. It's satire, lighten up already.)
Then it's called an air rifle ;)
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
Better than the usual "using the internet to google poison because I hate my wife" scenario.
Python: 'And then suddenly you have a language which says "we're all stuck with whatever the whiniest coder wants".'
Follow these easy instructions.
LMGTFY
Another bigger/meaner cat will still take care of that one too :p
...what followed was the most perverted and erotic delivery ever outside of hentai.
Ah well, atleast ONE thing google helped bring into the world that is no longer in Beta.
Slashdot social media options: AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, Jabber and Mobile Text. Why no MySpace?
I previously challenged anyone to link to a wikipedia article which is provably wrong in a key fact presented and hasn't been corrected for more than a week. The best people came up with are spelling errors and questionable references. So as far as I am concerned, peer review system makes Wikipedia more reliable than an average printed manual or guidebook where any mistakes couldn't have been corrected since I bought it.
What's so life-and-death (read: dangerous) about giving birth? My pet hamster can do it all by itself, and it's probably the dumbest creature on the planet.
So, basically this guy was googling while nature was doing its work.
That we have to google how to have a baby. Your deity must be proud! Or Darwin. Here I was thinking we're the smartest we've ever been... and we need instructions on how to reproduce. Never mind that 2000 years ago, even 200 years ago, most everyone was illiterate. And 20,000 years ago, they probably didn't even realize babies come from sex. (Actually many tribes consider the baby in proportion to the number of contributing men). What ever would we do?
Slashdot's rate-of-post filter: Preventing you from posting too many great ideas at once.
There's an app for that.
So, he has a phone and doesn't call the midwife for help? Ye g-ds, when I was born my parents didn't even have a landline and the midwife was only reachable by pager. Fortunately instincts do most of the work and except for having a foot long piece of umbilical cord attached to my belly I was fine.
...that Wikipedia played a part in the conception as well?
Name...That...Autocomplete!
I would be 100 times more impressed if the headline read, man disables bomb and saves a box full of kittens. On a serious note, if this guy had encountered any complications, it is good to know Google was at his fingertips. However, I have read stories about children assisting with the delivery of babies. No news here...
my mom posts on slashdot.
It's a good thing he didn't have a Blackberry Storm to mash his query out on, or he would have been confused by the instructions on "how to slither a navy"
Why would you want to start your child's life with an increased risk of death?
Idiots.
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2975
http://getbetterhealth.com/homebirth-risks-babies-three-times-more-likely-to-die/2009.11.12
the data is very good.
The Kruger Dunning explains most post on
Until the first hospitals for deliveries were set up the death rate for women in childbirth was around 16%.
I'd say those would be dicey odds for anyone delivering without emergency equipment or trained medical staff nearby,
Now, if a midwife was to have performed the delivery, this mother to be was likely deemed "low risk", so sampling bias will apply if we look at "home births where the midwife was late", but giving birth is not exactly risk-free.
In Liberty, Rene
Dad Delivers Baby Using Wiki
Did he, at least, wash it off when he was done using it?
Who would win this election: Andrew Weiner vs Andrew Weiner's weiner.
*air* rifle? Is that anything like air guitar?
Get a Garand, son, that'll do ya proud.
Infuriate left and right
The survival rates for childbirth without medical support are lousy enough to make medical support a generally good idea
According to the article, the "google-delivered" baby-girl was the mother's fourth pregnancy and fourth birth.
That means that all previous 3 of them went ok, and that the mother has quite some experience.
Also, as the whole story happened in a country were medical assistance is available and as the parents seem not to be against assistance (the mother seem to be checked by a midwife on a regular basis. they even called the midwife back - she just didn't manage to arrive soon enough), we can presume that they had pre-natal assistance (Echography, etc.) and we can assume that the doctors and mid-wife saw nothing peculiar or dangerous in advance either.
If there's no peculiar bad luck (like the unlucky baby entangling herself in the umbilical cord while exiting), chances are high that everything will go ok this time too. The father needed only to assist the mother, not to be able to react and start an emergency resucitation or whatever.
So although a medical support would have helped in case of some catastrophic event, the chance of such a catastrophic event where pretty low in this peculiar couple's situation.
but it isn't as though humans are exempt from the general mammalian ability to deliver live young without dying.
Well, on the other hand humans have a couple of problem. Unlike carnivore mammalian, our women tend to give birth to a rather single huge fair-developed baby instead of several small partially developed kittens/puppies. This size-problem is further worsened by the fact we are the only bipedal, upright-walking mammals and thus have pelvises which are optimized for a different bio-mechanical everyday use as the other mammals.
So quite a lot of thing can go wrong. Slightly more than with cats and dogs, for example.
On the other hand, we're social animals and have probably lived in small packs and tribes for quite a long period. Chances are high that, even with our cavemen ancestors young first-time mother could receive help from more experienced members of the tribe. (Supposedly, prostitution isn't the only job which could be called "the world's oldest profession")
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well, at least half the population isn't doing it, so it can't be that easy!
as BlackBerry is already trademarked and taken ;-)
If it was WoW and they needed a threesome I'd just tell them to roll a Night Elf.
"There are no facts, only interpretations." --Friedrich Nietzsche.
The edit wars are probably still on regarding this point ;-)
[citation needed]
I don't want to imagine what would happen if the mobile phone in question was windows mobile based!!
Now I must hide quickly because I can hear the astroturfers running already..
Disclaimer: I own a mobile phone based on windows mobile 6.1.
Disclaimer: I own a mobile phone based on windows mobile 6.1.
So do I, and you have my sympathy.
End of lesson. You may press the button.
I actually have one. I can't say as the thought of firing a .30-06 indoors appeals to my eardrums though. It's also a tad bit overkill for any pest small enough to be described as a "critter"......
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
The doctor actually *dropped* my third child, luckily the nurse caught her after a short bounce off of the table. It still burns me up how much I had to pay that doctor to fumble my child.
Lois was stuck at home giving birth. Her geeky co-worker / neighbor Craig tries to help, so the first thing he does is Google 'baby' - "OK, I've got 24 million results, let's see..."
And this was in 2003 - way ahead of the curve!
Prisencolinensinainciusol. Ol Rait!
Man, there's nothing they can't do with that console! Provided you have the right controller.
Never let a lack of data get in the way of a good rant.
Oh, whoosh.
Infuriate left and right
We've already got a sky-high miscarriage rate, a fun fact nobody likes to talk about in public. Something like 1/3rd of all pregnancies in the US result in miscarriages.
Yes, miscariages seem to naturally occur often in humans, 40% according to the sources that wikipedia cites. (specially with older parents, where the gametes had accumulated more mutations).
Well, you know what ? Mutation DO happen. A child has NOT a carbon-copy of the same genetic material as the parents.
A mutation could be catastrophically bad, slightly bad, neutral, slightly good or miraculously good.
The slightly good/bad and the miraculously good is what make evolution work, no matter how much the Creationists want to believe in Intelligent Design.
The catastrophically bad usually doesn't survive. There's only a rather minuscule amount of them that is able to survive up to certain advance point (trisomy 21 is an exemple of a catastrophic mutation that can still nonetheless reach into adulthood).
Given how many things could go wrong, it's rather a surprise that so much of them can go on a least long enough to be noticed as a miscarriage. (Most of the mutations die rather quickly, do not go beyond a few division and are reject in the next menstruation. The rest dies as miscarriage. Only a tiny fraction of the mutations are delivered - there's research supporting this, I'm just to lazy to dig the sources).
It has nothing to do with 2-3 generations of parents born with medical assistance. In fact, genetic counselling can, on the contrary, help better understand the risk for the baby and better plan the parenting and the birth, thus lowering the medical risks associated with it.
I know it sounds cruel and insane, but part of me really thinks that we're fucking ourselves over long-term by providing such "excellent" health care. We're almost completely bypassing natural selection...
If you are afraid that modern medicine is, on the whole, working against natural selection, you can think of it as not selecting gene-based health any more, but selecting civilisation :
Civilisation which are more advanced live on the average better than those without medical technology. In a way, we're now selecting better memes instead of better genes (to use Dawkin's terminology), memes for advanced (medical) technology.
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Insightful ? Really? Spam.
Dad Delivers Baby Using Wiki
Amazing! How did he teach the baby to use wiki? Also, what number do I call to get one delivered?
Yep, this story. - Pretty disruptive for people who need a (quick) answer and not your stupid comment.
The doctor actually *dropped* my third child, luckily the nurse caught her after a short bounce off of the table. It still burns me up how much I had to pay that doctor to fumble my child.
Now you know how NFL owners feel.
Descriptions of the tables can be found here:
MP KMP
Hear, Hear!
People "think" wikipedia isn't a credible or reliable source. I can only assume these people have never used it intensively.
Selah.ca. Pause, and calmly think on that.
Most people would simply deliver a baby through a vagina...
Bow-ties are cool.
Actually he was looking for preggo porn since his wife wasn't in the mood. When he realized the baby was coming now he opened a new window but kept the old one up.
Anything can be found funny, from a certain point of view.
I'm curious what you propose he should have done instead. If his account is to be believed (this is in the summary, no less) they had already called the midwife to come back for the house, and the mothers contractions started again, and she gave birth. There doesn't seem to have been enough time to get to a hospital, or for a medical professional, who had already been summoned, to arrive. And how would you suggest he look up information on midwifery in a crunch? If you look at the wikihow article, it is very well written, and very clear. It is also clearly a guide for emergency birthing, not a preplanned operation, and it says so. With very little time, and needing important information, it's certainly an artical that I would think about using if I was in the same situation.
Handling charges included.
Wait, if you were home, why would you need mobile internet? Or were there other circumstances keeping you from accessing your home net connection?
Because he did not want to have to Goggle "how to clean afterbirth off of a laptop"...
Can't clean laptop! The goggles, they do nothing!
I am not a crackpot.
Well, you could try wiggling out of this one on a technicality, insisting on an article that is provably wrong in key facts and has been for more than a week, rather than one where that exact situation occurred but the article was later corrected after more than a week. But I'm sure you wouldn't do that, since that would be an artificial limitation.
So perhaps you should look at this version of an article about Colin Pitchfork, a convicted child killer: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Colin_Pitchfork&oldid=141669223 . Among the other false key facts presented in the article for twenty-five days (over three weeks):
* the city and the county where the murders occurred;
* the years where they occurred;
* the existence of a third murder;
* the year of Pitchfork's confession;
* the date and year of Pitchfork's sentencing;
* the name of the initial incorrect suspect;
* the affiliation of the scientist who developed the technique that identified Pitchfork;
* how Pitchfork's ruse to defeat forensic testing failed.
That's a bit more than "spelling errors and questionable references."
If people are to respect the law, perhaps the law should begin by respecting the people.
Giving birth, in most cases, is not life or death. In fact, the mother's body is going to go through with it whether or not anyone helps.
Don't take life so seriously. No one makes it out alive.
While I still think it's a rare case and wikipedia's accuracy is in line if not better than printed books, your example does convince me that vandalized pages exist and people need to use caution, especially with more obscure subjects that may not be getting as many eyeballs.
Mars XXX. Google it: The first hit is a Wikipedia article describing Mars candy bars, which says that the XXX variant is gold-wrapped and filled with bourbon. Every other hit for "Mars XXX" relating to candy is a copy of the Wikipedia article. This part of the Wikipedia article hasn't changed for months (at least).
I'd like to think that if Mars were selling bourbon-filled candy bars, that someone would've mentioned it outside of Wikipedia. Alas.
Kid-proof tablet..
If someone was in the room and yelled "TOUCHDOWN" the doc may have spiked the baby.
Tisha Hayes
I previously challenged anyone to link to a wikipedia article which is provably wrong in a key fact presented and hasn't been corrected for more than a week.
I accept your challenge.
I just took a quick look on Wikipedia, and on the very first page I looked at, I found a statement that is completely false. In the Wikipedia article for "Carburetor", in the "Multiple Barrels" subsection, it says the following:
"Multiple carburetors can be mounted on a single engine, often with progressive linkages; four two-barrel carburetors were frequently seen on high performance American V8s"
Really? Four two barrel carburetors were frequently seen on American V8s? Name one fucking American V8 that came with four two-barrel carbs. Actually, many came with three two barrel carbs, for example the Pontiac GTO which was offered with a 389 "six pack" engine.
Looking back through the history, I was amazed to find that this error has been in the article since April 2007. Furthermore, the original text stated that three two-barrel carbs were the norm, but some dumb ass changed three to four, and the error has remained in there for the past 2 1/2 years.
The funny part is, I'm not surprised at all. I've seen plenty of errors like this in automotive related articles on Wikipedia, and I have even tried to correct them at times, only to have them reverted. Wikipedia is useful, but it is full of errors and always will be.
So, guess what comes up when you really do google
Yep, this story. - Pretty disruptive for people who need a (quick) answer and not your stupid comment.
And now it's in this thread three times. This is all they'll ever get!
Now that it's up to four, whoever googles it is sure to get this informative answer: IF THERE IS AFTERBIRTH ON YOUR LAPTOP, BURN IT AND BUY A NEW LAPTOP. Believe me, I've seen the stuff. There is no other good option.
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Or maybe he didn't want to deal with the full metaverse (that would take too long), but wasn't enough of a hacker to deal with flatland. Goggling in wouldn't have made much sense for him.
On July 26, 2004, the Wikipedia article for Let's Roll claimed that Todd Beamer's last words to a telephone operator were "Roll it" instead of "Let's roll." Later revisions cited the 9/11 Commission Report as a source. The report, however, does not actually transcribe any part of Beamer's phone conversation, and does not identify who said "Roll it" during the passengers' invasion of the cockpit (which presumably happened after Beamer's phone call ended). I attempted to correct it on October 27, 2005. It was immediately reverted. I reverted again with a detailed explanation and didn't bother to pursue it any further. The spurious detail was reverted back into the article and remained a part of subsequent revisions until at least January 24, 2007, still falsely citing the commission report as a source.
Recommend this to the AC.
$ make available
Apparently the entry for "how to clean afterbirth off a mobile phone" was much easier.
Well, it's a lot easier to toss a phone out of the, ah, line of fire, so to speak. If it did get toasted I would LOVE to see the reaction of the phone store employee examining it as the new father explained why it doesn't light up anymore... it might even sustain some more damage.
You have the right to remain sentient. If you give up the right to remain sentient, you will be elected to public office
vProspective studies using very sensitive early pregnancy tests have found that 25% of pregnancies are miscarried by the sixth week LMP (since the woman's Last Menstrual Period).[29][30] Clinical miscarriages (those occurring after the sixth week LMP) occur in 8% of pregnancies.[30]
25+8 = 33%. Which is one third, which is what I guessed. How the hell did you get modded up for this?
Please help metamoderate.
All the studies I've seen show that at worst, the number of of mistakes introduced and corrected every month on Wikipedia remains about neutral, and the number of errors comparable, if not better than print.
You're worrying about 'extra mistakes' but you're neglecting the addition of extra information which the print won't have either. Even if you had a nice digital competitor like Encyclopedia Britannica, there's no evidence (or even credible reason to believe) that the ratio of mistakes introduced to facts introduced would be better than on the payed service.
Reduction in the infant mortality rate had more to do with improvements in nutrition and hygiene (germ theory). The early-mid 19th Century is when the modern hospital concept really spread, but there wasn't a significant improvement in infant mortality until the turn of the century. Having a baby is not a medical procedure. More good was done for the IMR (and the expectant mother MR) by getting whoever it was delivering the baby to wash their damn hands than anything else.
If a job's not worth doing, it's not worth doing right.
"How to deal with the after birth........ after the jump."
Except the point the GP was making is that the content wouldn't be in Wikipedia in the first place, so it's accuracy is hardly relevant.
The science articles are usually safe on wikipedia, because it is hard to politicize the properties and observations of, say, uh, VY Canis Majoris. People on wikipedia are usually very good about these sorts of articles.
Cultural or political articles are the worst, however: everyone with their "unique" point of view comes on wikipedia to pound their drum. A person of A ideology makes X citation here, while a person of B ideology makes Y citation here arguing against X but never decisively, and it simply becomes a clusterfuck of whiny voices trying to outdo everyone else. Not balanced perspectives.
Don't believe me? Try being a wikipedia editor sometime: it becomes a game of reverting opposing edits and navigating the role-playing bureaucracy of the site. And while it is theoretically a good thing that can happen, some idiot will come around eventually and do the same to you, and eventually you will get into some utterly moronic "arbitration" game that requires no social life or hobbies whatsoever.
And then there is the scandal of essjay, one of the most abusive admins of wikipedia history, only to end up to be revealed as a fraud who used fake credentials under anonymity to abuse other users into accepting his dogma.
Then there are more contentious points that could never get resolved because of the "mainstream" versus "esoteric" knowledge(s) on various subjects. Take Metallica, for instance: they're listed as a highly influential metal band, though it is debatable of how unique their contributions actually are/were. Perhaps they popularized certain stylistic characteristics, but were they really the ones influencing others if they were primarily influenced by others, for the most part? Sorry if that is vague, I can't think of a better example that is more obvious. But the problem is that wikipedia will never actually accept what *actually* is, but on what is group consensus, because no original research is allowed; thus, what most people believe is true is true in wikipedia's eyes.
It is fine if you disagree with my example, but the concept of what I'm saying is still valid.
And to end on a positive note: "deletionists" are some of the most worthless people that one can find on the internet. They get their jollies off of deleting as much as they can, despite the site being more useful if it contains as much truthful information as possible.
And perhaps the most important revelation to come from my (for I am the whatever-great-grandparent-poster) looking up Tidal Locking on my iPhone? The realization that having an app like Wikipanion in your pocket Changes Things. And given that I work as a Network & Systems Architect for a communications company, and am on two advisory boards, and the fact that I was able to find an article on Tidal Locking has actually changed some recommendations I have made. This has in turn affected our (more than 1 million) customers pretty substantially. The information I looked up was entirely unrelated to my job. The fact that I was able to look it up and slake my curiosity was not unrelated.
I wonder if one could express these sorts of relationships mathematically... hmm... if you could, that'd probably be worth a Fields Medal. And now I've gone from Tidal Locking to cell phones to epistemology to information theory to math to an idea that will surely win me a Fields Medal. Thank you Slashdot!
"He who would learn astronomy, and other recondite arts, let him go elsewhere. " -- John Calvin, commenting on Genesis 1
No way.
The challenge to find a currently wrong article that has been for more than a week is in fact a lot harder if you don't change the wording.
It's not a technicality, it's the spirit of the thing. The relaxed collection from which you picked the article is at least a hundred times larger than the collection in the challenge. That is what makes it so difficult to find an example. He didn't say there weren't any articles that were wrong for more than a week, but that there were so few of them that no one would find them. (hint: he said "more reliable", not "perfect")
Until the first hospitals were set up people also thought that leeches were a great cure for everything from the common cold to cancer. This is a perfect case of "correlation does not imply causation". I know it's thrown around a lot, but seriously. The conditions of pretty much anywhere you could conceivably give birth are so much more hygienic than they were back then. Even the back of a taxi is cleaner than most places back then because back then people didn't understand how infections spread and had absolutely no concept of "disinfecting" something.
-1 disagree is not a modifier for a reason. -1 troll, flaimbait, redundant, overrated are NOT acceptable substitutes.
When people say "wiki" most folks immediately think of Wikipedia. The page he used was http://www.wikihow.com/Deliver-a-Baby .
Wouldn't it be more useful to the baby's biological father?
Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. -John Lennon
I tried that, and now I'm just scared.
Not offered, but it was a not unusual performance modification, particularly in the days of the flathead ford. IIRC, both Offy and Weber made quad-deuce manifolds.
Not gonna bother looking at the link, but a reference to three deuce's as being normal is erroneous, with a single four barrel being the most common setup on American V8s. Three deuce setups were normally only found on performance cars, such as the Pontiac you mentioned and the Mopar 440 ci cars.
Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. -John Lennon
The reliability of Wikipedia articles is considered by most to be uncertain, as sources find that many errors are produced by editors who clean-up articles. Most errors go undetected for long periods of time. [1]
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Ok, I'll bite:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cast_iron_cookware#Seasoning
Seasoning isn't magnetite formation, it's amorphous carbon formation. Someone got blueing confused with seasoning. Not too many people at home boil their pans in potassium nitrate and lye to season them. Worse, the article says something about oil protecting the metal from the oxygen in the air so that rust won't form, yet the formation of magnetite requires oxygen to react with the iron.
202.173.180.235, eh?
How's it going for ya, down under?
Actually it would be useful to whatever person besides the mother is most likely to be present at delivery time, weather or not that man, woman or child is genetically related to the baby. But as it happens, I am the biological father and yes I am pretty sure, so let's not start with every slashdotter claiming the honors.
A friend of mine once changed the article for the movie Beaches to indicate that Arnold Schwarzenegger had a small, and uncredited cameo.
Wikipedia is the best thing to happen to gambling since rigged dice and double sided coins.
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
It's amazing how calm a baby is after a homebirth. Wifey had two at home, and not a single strangulated cry from either. Took about 20-30 anxious seconds to take their first breath, but all went well (he's now a swimming club champ, and she's a dancer).
Trust Darwin, brothers. Our female partners have evolved to do this. Couldn't honestly say they enjoy it, but they cope (mostly), and it's humbling to watch - especially contraction waves moving up the abdomen - and their ability to forget the pain afterwards.
They sentenced me to twenty years of boredom
It's reliable enough and credible enough for the average netizen. Sure, you won't get browny points citing it in academia, but when I want to know something about something, I check Wikipedia first.
I am the biological father and yes I am pretty sure, so let's not start with every slashdotter claiming the honors.
It would be humorous for ANY slashdotter to claim the honors.
Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. -John Lennon
He was quoted saying: "That's it baby, that's the spot. Just move nice and slow. Getting a bit shy now? Oh, you're such a tease. I like it when you go down like that. Oh baby, are you coming? Yeah you're coming. Almost there... Hold on I'm getting there... Oh there it is!... It's a girl! A cute little girl!"
surely forceps would be more functional...
Mom gives birth to baby, dad gets credit for the hard work.
I sold my Garand and 03 Springfield when kid was coming. Really needed the money back then. Wish I still had it. All I got left is my M1 Carbine. Would be nice to have complete set again.
I drank what? -- Socrates
The most annoying bit is that Wikipedia has latched onto this... it had nothing to do with Wikipedia... but was in fact "WikiHow", completely independent.
From what it sounds like (looking at the comment timeline) , the article itself originally said Wikipedia ...then was corrected to say Wikihow. I don't know that this was a case of Wikipedia trying to get credit so much as the journalist getting his facts wrong.
Yeah, even my cat would be doin' it.
Oh yeah, chickens don't have belly buttons.
I drank what? -- Socrates
Some receivers ain't worth all the pay and hype they get.
I drank what? -- Socrates
Want to deliver a baby? There's an app for that.
In the beginning, there was null.
I do that a lot.
I drank what? -- Socrates
That’s because your request is bullshit, because it is deliberately written in a way, that does not touch the problem we are actually talking about: Deletionism. (Or the non-acceptance of non-groupthink.)
What is the real problem, is tons of stuff that in inputted with good faith, and the knowing that it it is true, being deleted for reasons that are nothing other than retarded lies and excuses, or blatantly obvious territory behavior that you would expect from three year olds.
The basis of the problem, is the “one global groupthink truth“ concept. Even when for most things, the physical truth can not even be determined!
And then there is the retarded and completely arbitrary “relevance” criteria. Based on the personal preferences of a small elite of Wikipedia admins.
It’s just as every dictatorship.
But then again, if you own the server...
And this is why the only Wiki I will ever be able to take seriously, must be a distributed one (p2p)! (Preferably with cascading trust relationship profiles. So everyone has his own Wikipedia, made of the content that his network of trust trusts in, and non-influencable by dogmatic idiots.)
Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.
Going for funny, actually. Spam? How so?
I prefer rogues to imbeciles because they sometimes take a rest.
I probably would have called 911 and put it on speakerphone. In the event of complications or anything not covered in the wiki, someone can answer questions. Obviously, the guy did a pretty good job regardless of the source he used, so I can't really criticize what he did, or the source he used. That being said, when that kid grows up, its teachers probably won't even let him/her use Wikipedia as a source in a school research paper.
I prefer rogues to imbeciles because they sometimes take a rest.
True. That being said, perfectly normal deliveries are only a couple degrees away from life-and-death struggle. I'm glad my wife and I made it to the hospital for our son's birth. It was almost a textbook childbirth, but could easily have been fatal for one or both without the right medical personnel around.
I prefer rogues to imbeciles because they sometimes take a rest.
Right after the baby was born, perhaps a search for 'Reasonable names for babies.'
The Thing is.
Right, so where's the link?
That's my point. Dad didn't really have to do much of anything, and had something gone wrong, he wouldn't have been able to help. That's why as soon as my wife is having contractions, we're high tailing it to the hospital.
Don't take life so seriously. No one makes it out alive.
Is anyone other than The effing Sun reporting this?