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EU Demands Canada Rework Its Copyright, Patent Law

An anonymous reader writes "The draft intellectual property text of the EU - Canada Trade Agreement has leaked, with news that the EU is demanding that Canada fundamentally alter copyright, patent, and trademark law. The laundry list of demands includes copyright term extension, WIPO ratification, DMCA-style legislation, resale rights, new enforcement provisions, and following patent, trademark, and design law treaties. The net result is that when combined with the ACTA requirements, Canadian copyright law may cease to be Canadian." Reader TheTurtlesMoves stresses the "first sale doctrine" aspect of the Canada - EU negotiations. Once an artist sells a creative work, should she get a cut of any future resales of that same work? The EU says yes at least for some types of works, and it wants Canada to see things its way. "Europe's Directive 2001/84/EC says that the right covers only 'works of graphic or plastic art such as pictures, collages, paintings, drawings, engravings, prints, lithographs, sculptures, tapestries, ceramics, glassware and photographs, provided they are made by the artist himself or are copies considered to be original works of art.'"

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  1. Cue the apologists... by HarrySquatter · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Aren't we constantly told that the EU is so much better in regards to patents and copyrights and it's only the big bad US that is constantly trying to push all this stuff on people?

    1. Re:Cue the apologists... by RobVB · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I might be paranoid, but I don't believe the US had nothing to do with this. The dollar might not be as strong as the euro right now, but enough of them will still buy you plenty of politicians.

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    2. Re:Cue the apologists... by HarrySquatter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I might be paranoid, but I don't believe the US had nothing to do with this.

      Because otherwise the EU wouldn't be pushing for this? Are you joking? The EU hardly is a utopia when it comes to copyrights.

    3. Re:Cue the apologists... by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Aren't we constantly told that the EU is so much better in regards to patents and copyrights and it's only the big bad US that is constantly trying to push all this stuff on people?

      No, we're not. The EU is the hot spot for three strikes laws. If anything, it's usually shown as an example of a dark possible future for the US.

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    4. Re:Cue the apologists... by OrangeTide · · Score: 4, Insightful

      US politicians are simply cheaper to bribe than EU politicians due to the weak dollar.

      I won't worry about America until our politicians start only accepting bribes in Euros.

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    5. Re:Cue the apologists... by NotBornYesterday · · Score: 4, Interesting

      AFAICT, we are constantly told that the EU is so much better in regards to medical care, social programs in general, environmental laws, gun laws, architecture, culture, art, world peace, sexual repression, drug laws, and trading value of the Euro vs. the dollar among other things, much of which is debatable, but hardly relevant here. In general, the world's most developed countries are realizing that more and more of what they ("we", I suppose, since I''m in the US) have to trade on internationally is IP rather than physical goods, which can usually be made cheaper elsewhere. If the developed countries want to keep their riches, they have to keep their IP secure. I think the drive to implement (or "impose", depending on how you look at it) oppressive international IP agreements draws more fire when the US does it because at home and abroad the US is often perceived as an aggressive superpower exporting cultural imperialism. On the other hand, when the EU does it, they are beneficently supporting artists' rights.

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    6. Re:Cue the apologists... by FuckingNickName · · Score: 4, Informative

      Honestly? Speaking as a Spaniard, I see the official and populist line in Spain is that the EU is A Great Thing. Why?

      (1) After Franco, Spain was way behind the rest of Western Europe in terms of infrastructure and social justice. When it joined the EU (then EC) in 1986, it received huge sums for investment in large scale programmes. Before this time, the big money had often come from US private investment (Spaniards were cheap labour!), which certainly provided jobs but wasn't going to build roads and railways or take care of the very sick. ...queue a couple decades of investment and the rising middle classes...

      (2) Then after Aznar's monumentally stupid blaming of the local terr'ist group, ETA, for bombings in Madrid the day before the election, the pendulum swung from pro-US back to anti-US sentiment. The prevailing impression in Spain still seems to be that the EU stands as some great body to counter US influence, even though it's by and large motivated by special interests which often lie in common with the special interests of the US elite.

      (3) (perhaps slightly prejudiced) Spaniards like patriarchal government. The legacy of Franco is still there, obviously. They're obsessed with a veneer of political correctness, still compensating for their once genuinely macho culture, but ultimately they don't like the idea of a nation of independent individuals, preferring a very detailed, united conception of morality and society. This sentiment is easy to take advantage of.

    7. Re:Cue the apologists... by NatasRevol · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I thought the dark possible future of the US was the current UK?

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    8. Re:Cue the apologists... by Guspaz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I realize that it's a common mistake, but Canada is not, in fact, in Europe.

      Spain, the Czech Republic, and Finland are all members of the European Union. And in Europe.

    9. Re:Cue the apologists... by Again · · Score: 2, Informative

      I would argue that big Government is the problem here. If you take an individual country the size of Sweden or Canada it's more probable that it will be responsive to the concerns and needs of it's citizens. Take a large bloated government like the US Federal Government or EU and it seems to be more probable that it gets bought off by a combination of machine politics and special interests.

      As a Canadian I would argue that our government is owned entirely by corporations. My vote goes to the politician who has sold his soul to the Canadian corporations.

    10. Re:Cue the apologists... by Yvanhoe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, I think this is a short term vision. What rich countries need to stay rich is not IP, it is the power to create new and innovative IP. Likewise, a country owning factories is richer than a country owning final goods. IP laws are good for the capitalization of IPs and bad for the creation of IPs. Walt Disney makes more profits from every year's movie they are making than from Donald Duck or Snow White. But protecting those 50+ years old IPs prevent them from being used as raw material for new ones. I honestly believe that even if rich countries were going to be egoistical, they should shorten copyright durations.

      Also I am from EU and this move surprises me. EU has been somehow resistant to US-imported copyright lobbyists. The fact that they are the ones weighting in on these issues is disturbing to say the least. I hope our MPs will protest.

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    11. Re:Cue the apologists... by hibiki_r · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, but in International affairs, If Bush said jump, Aznar would ask how high. So Aznar's behavior stuck for a bit. The party that took over had awful relations with Bush, which didn't help matters.

      And frankly, the anti-americanism started with the Iraq invasion. The majority of Spaniards never bought into Bush's argument. You can find pictures of million man demonstrations that occurred after Aznar, Blair and Bush met at the Azores to discuss the invasion.

    12. Re:Cue the apologists... by FuckingNickName · · Score: 2, Informative

      Why? Did the US plant the bombs? Did the US tell Aznar to blame ETA?

      As far as I saw the nation seeing it; this one goes up to 11:

      1. The US government had a quarrel with "Arabs" (we put "Arabs" in quotes because the US couldn't really make up its mind which Arabs it had a quarrel with, but it knew they were Arabs).

      2. The Spanish people did not have a quarrel with Arabs.

      3. The Spanish government, however, was all BFF with the US government.

      4. So, the Spanish government decides to send its troops off to help its BFF.

      5. Unsurprisingly for war, Spain was met with reprisals. Because of the nature of the enemy, it couldn't drop bombs over Spanish airspace, so resorted to a tactic it was familiar with.

      Aside: War is dirty and all deaths are nasty. There's no "acceptable" way to kill the enemy, in uniform or otherwise.

      6. So, to recap: the Spanish government sent its troops to war over an issue between the US and Arabs, and the Spanish people had to suffer.

      7. The Spanish government had a chance to say to its people, "I'm sorry, we fucked up, this is not our war, we are not using our military for the proper function of protecting our country." Instead, and without evidence, it quickly blamed a local paramilitary group, ETA, to:

      (a) Prevent the need to apologise as described;
      (b) Justify its approach toward ETA.

      8. The Spanish government was very quickly shown to be wrong to the point of either gross incompetence or maliciousness, losing the trust of both those who had confidence in its pro-war stance and those who might at least have had faith in the government's integrity, if not its position.

      9. The Spanish government was very quickly replaced with one reflecting the growing anti-US sentiment.

      10. The propaganda machine switched accordingly.

      11. The Spanish political and democratic voice became anti-US.

      An analysis of popular sentiment, Hognoxious, is more complex than, "Find out who arranged it and hate them!" In this case, once the enemy had attacked Spain, the enemy's enemy became even less a friend.

      Remember, finally, that Spain and the UK have had regular bombing campaigns within their borders over the past few decades, and could never have been expected to respond as the US.

  2. I hope Canada stands up to this and says NO: by pecosdave · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They have enough asinine copyright laws as it is. Seriously? An extra charge on blank optical and tape media because it "might" be used to pirate? Does this go for hard drives and bandwidth? I'm with the current US and Canada system. The artist don't benefit much, it's the royalty houses are the ones that really benefit. Don't they get enough from performance, broadcast, sales, etc..? Artist can go broke trying to collect their money.

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    1. Re:I hope Canada stands up to this and says NO: by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 5, Insightful

      An extra charge on blank optical and tape media because it "might" be used to pirate?

      I actually like this system, because it gives me implied governmental approval to copy as I see fit.

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    2. Re:I hope Canada stands up to this and says NO: by Minwee · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'd at least feel less guilty pirating - if I would ever do such a thing - if I knew they were getting paid even when I wasn't.

      Technically, Bryan Adams and Celine Dion are getting paid no matter what music you are copying. The blank media levy is divvied up between the top selling artists based on commercial radio airplay.

    3. Re:I hope Canada stands up to this and says NO: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      I actually like this system, because it gives me implied governmental approval to copy as I see fit.

      It's not implied, it's explicit. Copying of music for personal use is entirely 100% legal in Canada as a result of the blank media levy.

      Courts have consistently ruled that way.

    4. Re:I hope Canada stands up to this and says NO: by schon · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's not implied, it's explicit. Copying of music for personal use is entirely 100% legal in Canada

      Correct. Citation here (warning, PDF), which states:

      Before the Copyright Act was amended in 1998, copying a sound recording for almost any purpose infringed copyright, although, in practice, the prohibition was largely unenforceable. The amendment to the Act legalized the private copying of sound recordings of musical works

  3. No problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    So long as it's the Europeans bending them over the kitchen table and not the Americans, the Canadians will be perfectly happy.

  4. Well that's it for that then by oldspewey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Since our current conservative party government thinks leadership is waiting to be told what to do by other countries, I guess Canada can expect EU-style copyright laws shortly.

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  5. Just as a Matter of Principal by sycodon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just as a matter of principal, Canada should give them a nice hearty "F**k you, eh!"
     

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    1. Re:Just as a Matter of Principal by couchslug · · Score: 2, Insightful

      International law itself is a surrender of sovereignty and should be viewed as such.

      It's a way for outsiders to govern your country without your country having a national referendum on the law in question.

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  6. Re:I'm surprised by HarrySquatter · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Europe isn't a utopia when it comes to copyrights. Everyone made a big deal about that copyright term extension act that was proposed by Sonny Bono, and while it was a heinous bill at least it didn't revive expired copyrights like the copyright extension legislation in the EU did.

  7. O Canada by RobVB · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Please tell the EU to go fuck itself and/or adapt its copyright and patent law to the Canadian model.

    And possibly to close Disneyland Paris, stop accepting money from **AA and start developing some common sense.

    Crap, I think I overdid it with that last part. They are, after all, politicians. But if they're supposed to represent the European population, let me be the first to say this isn't what all of the population wants.

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    1. Re:O Canada by ubergeek65536 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I wish I could mod you up. The Canadian people are supposed to make our laws. If we don't want your copyright laws too bad for you. I'd rather live without even seeing another European book or movie in my life then have them make my laws. Mr. PM are you listening?

    2. Re:O Canada by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Please tell the EU to go fuck itself and/or adapt its copyright and patent law to the Canadian model.

      Canadians, please do as he says.
      I'm European.

      Alright, as a Canadian, I kindly ask you to go fuck yourself and/or adapt your copyright and patent laws to the Canadian Model.

  8. As a Canadian... by whisper_jeff · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a Canadian, to all foreign powers who demand we change our laws to match yours, I say fuck you. Get your house in order before you tell us how to get ours in order.

    1. Re:As a Canadian... by RobVB · · Score: 2

      As a European, I say thank you.

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    2. Re:As a Canadian... by wannabegeek2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm an American, and you cannot conceive of how much I agree with your position!

      Best of luck!

      (Expose and excise Corporatism. Businesses are NOT a component of "The People", at least as the US founding Fathers meant.)

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    3. Re:As a Canadian... by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You know, if that comment had been made by an American, it would have attracted at least three angry comments before it was modded down to -1. Instead it's +3 and rising. What happened to unilateralism being bad? The idea that a nation should act selfishly in its own national interest, with no thought as to how its actions will be perceived internationally? Parent is an outright rejection, complete with profanity! I'm really puzzled...honest question, not a flame.

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    4. Re:As a Canadian... by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The reason it would have been modded down if it were by an American is that the American Government is over there mucking about in other people's Countries before getting its house in order, making the statement completely hypocritical.

      Canadians on the other hand, do very little besides peacekeeping, and combing the hills of Afghanistan.

    5. Re:As a Canadian... by Minwee · · Score: 3, Funny

      As a Canadian, to all foreign powers who demand we change our laws to match yours, I say fuck you. Get your house in order before you tell us how to get ours in order.

      I don't buy your claim. If you were really a Canadian, you would have asked more politely. And the apologized for how their house wasn't in order, even though it wasn't your fault. And then said the same thing in French.

    6. Re:As a Canadian... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      'mmmkay?' Oh my, A south park reference classes up the conversation real well..

      You missed the point. The point is "GET YOUR OWN SH*T TOGETHER BEFORE YOU COME POUNDING ON OUR DOOR TELLING US TO CHANGE"

      For example we didn't buy the whole WMD in Iraq thing, We didn't buy the whole no banking regulations is a good idea thing, and we are pretty sure the EU/US are wrong about copyright in the digital age as well.

      Other things you (the general non-Canadian US centric person) might be wrong about:

      Hunting deer and ducks requires weapons capable of firing in excess of 30 rounds of ammo a minute.

      Insurance companies really do care about providing health care to their customers, prioritizing that above even shareholder profits.

      Homosexuals engaging in consenting, loving relationships with all the legal protections and privileges afforded by marriage will bring on the Gaypocalypse.

    7. Re:As a Canadian... by schon · · Score: 2, Informative

      Canadians on the other hand, do very little besides peacekeeping, and combing the hills of Afghanistan.

      Sorry, but as a Canadian, I have to disagree with you. Since Harper took over, Canada has been actively working to scuttle any agreement to limit greenhouse gas emissions.

  9. As a Canadian by Bullfish · · Score: 2, Informative

    I politely say, "that's nice". Please take a seat there by the Americans who have made the same demands. we'll see you after them. They've been waiting a few years, so you make want to bring a lunch and something to read. Really, the government is in a minority position (has been for a few years) and has plenty of real trouble to deal with... they also want to be elected with a majority some day so they are not apt to piss off the population too much.

  10. Re:I'm surprised by H.G.Blob · · Score: 2, Informative
    The summary is terrible, there is no DMCA style legislation in the EU. The article says:

    The U.S. has proposed provisions that would mandate a DMCA-style implementation for the WIPO Internet treaties and encourage the adoption of a three-strikes and you're out system to cut off access where there are repeated allegations of infringement.

  11. Why not real art? by tutori · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What is the fundamental difference between physical art and digital art such that the digital art shouldn't be covered by the first sale doctrine? As far as I can tell, the only difference is the presence of a lobby...

  12. EU??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The last time I checked Canada wasn't in Europe. Let's hope our politicians realize that.

  13. Re:I'm surprised by HarrySquatter · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually a few countries in the EU have passed DMCA-like legislation. But from the article:

    Anti-circumvention provisions. The EU is demanding that Canada implement anti-circumvention provisions that include a ban on the distribution of circumvention devices. There is no such requirement in the WIPO Internet treaties.

    This sounds pretty much like wanting DMCA-style legislation.

  14. International Bullying by Adrian+Lopez · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Canada should not allow itself to be bullied into adopting bad copyright law. While the European Union appears quite eager to be as bad (or worse) than the United States in terms of harmful copyright legislation, I sincerely hope Canada will put its citizens interests above those of copyright holders. I'm not against globalization, but countries must sometimes defend their sovereignty for the sake of their citizens.

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  15. Disgusting... by Synchis · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This type of news is disgusting to me as a Canadian.

    Throughout the summer, Canada held an enormous copyright consultation in which large corporations expressed an interest in these types of changes, and artists, creators and citizens expressed an interest in the exact opposite direction to this.

    Michael Geist usually carries all the latest news about this topic.

    At the same time, I think we have nothing to worry about. In a country that shows a 30% voter turnout (at best), that makes 6.9 million voters. Historically, over 500000 canadians joined the protest against the last attempt to bring laws like this. Thats a 7% swing in the vote towards the party that will stand up against this type of law making. Thats enough to win an election in Canada.

    With all this hype over copyright and trademark law, I expect it to be a hot topic in the next election, and with us running under a minority gov't, we could end up with an election at any time.

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    1. Re:Disgusting... by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've always been a little wishy washy when it comes to voting, I mean both Liberals and Conservatives end up making good points, and I always end up voting for whoever sounds like less of a douche at the debates, despite if their policy actually makes sense or not.

      However, this is something that concerns me a bit more. Usually everything breaks down into what will cost us the most tax dollars versus the benefit it brings us. I go along and pay my taxes no matter how much they demand (which is quite ludicrous right now actually, we're taxed something like 40% after GST, PST, Income and other taxes, and don't have half the services of some european countries).

      But this is another issue altogether. This could effect the way I do things, punishable by the law. So - yeah, I want to see who supports what in this whole debacle.

    2. Re:Disgusting... by ubercam · · Score: 2, Informative

      The only way it would affect anything is if these particular 7% of voters were concentrated only in the swing ridings, where the races are within a couple votes. If they were evenly distributed across the country, since we have the first past the post system, I doubt it would affect much.

      In my neck of the woods, in the Taché riding in SE Manitoba, no matter who you vote for, the Conservatives win, because their candidate, Vic Toews, is a senior cabinet member. He was the Justice Minister for a while, but I think he's head of the Treasury Board now. People like that. They want their local MP to be an important person. No one has ever heard of any of the other candidates on the ballot. The Greens got like 200 votes last time around, Liberals a couple thousand, NDP less, but Toews takes the cake every time (he had something like 12,000-15,000 votes). AFAIK the majority of the population in Taché are Mennonites and they usually always stick to their kind in business, pleasure and politics, so Toews winning every time is no surprise at all. Hell, the guy had an affair publicly disclosed and it still didn't affect his popularity at all, and that's a VERY BIG no-no for a Mennonite, let me tell you. A 7% increase in Liberal votes wouldn't even dent Toews' lead, which is usually at least double what the next best candidate gets.

      But yeah, like you said, with this minority government, where an election could be called at any time over any issue at all, even copyright, all it takes is a couple seats in the election for the opposition to get enough of them to be able to force the hand of the ruling party and make sure everyone works together for a consensus. They've been fairly successful at this the last couple times around, with a few exceptions, but they need to get their acts together. IMHO, the NDP need new leadership, and the Liberals need to figure out what the hell they're doing too in that area, and the Greens really need to step up their campaign and advertise just as much as the big 3. They were pretty quiet last time, but I was happy to see Elizabeth May in the CBC debate, that was really good.

      Anyway, I think all of our governments should minorities really, since they actually have to work together and agree to get anything done, and coming to an agreement means they (should) have to take the views of the entire population into account. I also wish they, and every other government around the world, would stop using emotionally charged issues, such as kiddie porn, to pass crappy laws no one would even consider if it didn't have that label attached to it. Oh, we're still allowed to dream right?

  16. Re:And Canada is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Even the French-Canadians don't want anything to do with Europe.

  17. Canadians speak up! by ubergeek65536 · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you are as pissed off about other countries trying to write our laws write your MP and the following Ministers.

    Tony Clement
    Minister of Industry
    http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/ic1.nsf/eng/00093.html
    minister.industry@ic.gc.ca

    Bev Oda
    Minister of International Cooperation
    http://www.bevoda.ca/
    Oda.B@parl.gc.ca

    1. Re:Canadians speak up! by roju · · Score: 2, Informative

      Don't forget the minister whose department is actually negotiating these things:

      Stockwell Day
      Minister of International Trade
      House of Commons
      Ottawa, ON K1A 0A6
      Phone: 613.995.1702
      Fax: 613.995.1154
      Web: http://www.stockwellday.com/EN/4984/
      Email: DayS@parl.gc.ca

  18. What a load of crap by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That is not what international law is at all. International law is the stuff that happens in The Hague and it has been around a long time and is desperately needed. It governs such silly every day things as trade. If you trade between countries (between sets of laws) which one goes? Well, that is what international law is for.

    And it is in Holland because Holland was ONCE a world-power (yes really) but lost that status but still had a need to maintain its trading empire. So while the british and other powers settled trade disputes with the law of the biggest gun(boat) Holland needed something more.

    International law is an entirely different beast then this, what we are talking about here are treaties. It may look the same, but it is fundementally different.

    In fact, the current system is so wrong because it seeks to bypass laws altogether. The media companies are waging a very complex war against basic law by trying to get a new set of laws introduced by means that were never intended. Trade treaties were supposed to be "We sell you X and you don't charge for it and we allow you sell us Y without charging tariffs on it". Not "you will subject your citizens to our laws".

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  19. Re:I'm surprised by maxwell+demon · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm European myself and I didn't even know we had DMCA style legislation here

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Copyright_Directive

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  20. wow... by pak9rabid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is it just me or is the EU starting to sound like the US?

  21. Re:OK, this is getting old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I guess it is to be expected for every /. article to spiral into at least one anti-American diatribe, but even this one is a stretch. Mod topic -1 offtopic.

    It's not really "Anti American" (some of us still like individual Americans) -- it's "Anti export of American laws to the rest of the world".

    It is entirely American companies who have been pushing to have the DMCA exported, who are responsible for including it in that secretive ACTA treaty they're not allowed to tell us the details of, and it's American intellectual property stakeholders who are trying to push this on everyone else.

    The goal is seemingly to try to export laws to the rest of the world that makes all laws and technologies subservient to the wishes of content and media companies. Sadly, we can't even accuse America of colonialism in this case -- it's more like oligarchy.

    As far as changing the right of first sale so that the artist gets a cut every time the piece is sold -- I say horseshit. That makes no sense.

    Sadly, I fear that soon most nations will get swept up in this stupidity and before long we'll only be able to do what the media companies tell us we're allowed to. If they get this enshrined into every country's laws, before long, they'll be able to dictate how technology works so guarantee that nothing which they don't want us to have (and for which they can't continue to bill us) is allowed.

    Time to start voting from the rooftops.

  22. This is a real threat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Forget about the small ragtag bands of Middle Eastern terrorists. They aren't a real threat to freedom and democracy.

    Legislation like this, pushed by supranational organizations, is. It is a far, far bigger threat to everybody's freedom and the democracy of Western nations than any terrorist organization.

  23. Re:Who's going to keep track of these sales? by schon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Defeating the entire purpose of the law in the first place: to protect small time artists.

    Where did you get that?

    I'm pretty certain that the entire purpose of the law is to make large multinational corporations the gateholders to our arts and culture, and prevent small-time artists from entering the market from without sponsorship from said corps.

  24. EU is the battleground by SharpFang · · Score: 2, Informative

    EU is not a monolithic body, and concerning copyrights it's a violent battleground between the two sides. New repressions are raised as proposed laws by member countries then struck down by the EU parliament majority. Laws forbidding such repressions are raised and fought over as well. Commissions (which are generally pro-copyright and do most of the work) try to circumvent the parliament (which has the final vote and is generally pro-freedom), then the parliament members notice the shenanigans, bitchslap the commissions into place and try to set things straight. Sometimes the commissions manage to slip something under the radar of parliament, sometimes the parliament passes laws that make some commissions' efforts illegal.

    I'm pretty sure this treaty was a draft prepared by one of the commissions, which when it hit the parliament, would either be struck down or modified so heavily not a word would go unchanged. OTOH the commissioners could try to pass it as "pretty much final version just pending a couple signatures, please adapt to this and when the treaty goes live your law will match the requirements of the treaty 100%". Of course when the treaty goes live it would be nothing like it was when this proposition was made but the harm has been done.

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  25. Re:Oh no! by belmolis · · Score: 2, Funny

    Here in Western Canada we call them "udders".