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The Chinese Route To a Web Free of Porn
An anonymous reader writes "Despite repeated 'for the children' campaigns, the Western Web as a whole has provided little or no isolation of pornography. This is why the Chinese are now attempting to march to a place where no country has been before: a Web without porn. Recent regulations have included closing down 'vulgar' mobile sites, disconnecting 'obscene' servers, and restricting domain registrations. Yet the breaking news for Monday is that China is planning to enforce a whitelist on foreign domains: in particular, any e-commerce will have to register locally and obey Chinese law before they get whitelisted. Domains will otherwise be 'irresolvable' to Chinese Internet users. Meanwhile, the government is promoting this campaign heavily, calling it a 'fresh start.' It seems the Chinese may have to do without the Internet, before they can rid it of porn."
The Chinese Route to Web of Free Porn?
Yet the breaking news for Monday is that the China is planning to enforce a whitelist on foreign domains: in particular, any e-commerce will have to register locally and obey Chinese law before they get whitelisted.
Where does it say that? Citation needed!
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So that takes care of wikipedia.org or are they censoring en.wikipedia.org differently than zh.wikipedia.org? Because while an English versus Chinese article may be more "culturally sensitive," there's still some unavoidable images no matter how different they are from the original. If they've never had to deal with the artwork versus pornography issue, they're soon going to discover that banning National Geographic for images of unclothed peoples is just not educationally sound.
Looks like we've got a new amusingly painful chapter ahead of us for Chinese internet users.
As a side note, I don't know if we ended up covering this story but citizens apparently can't register domains anymore either.
My work here is dung.
I only use the internet to spread dissonant lies about my government and to look at porn.
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Might as well remove all the salt in the ocean while they're at it.
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Pornography may be naked people having sex, or it may be sites critical of the government.
Oh no, this is actually about pornography. The government of China already openly and unabashedly censors political content it doesn't approve of.
Fresh start today. Hundreds of fresh young....
never mind
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No no no, Don't give Conroy and the religious nuts behind the Australian 'Clean Feed' any ideas. They've already done enough damage
This is a terrible mistake on the Chinese government's part. Just because every ruling party member likely looked at pornography as a child and became terrible people does not mean that every person who sees pornography in their childhood will grow up to be just as cold, calculating, and authoritarian.
So China institutes a one-child-per-family policy. Due to social and traditional reasons, male children are far preferred. As a result, the population is already skewed male, and continuing to trend that way.
Now China's blocking the porn? How do they plan on dealing with the ah, excess males? Send them off to war?
Afer a thorough review, being very careful to make sure that there is absolutely no sexual connotation whatsoever, we have determined that all but the following are prohibited:
Binary 1. No. Dammit. OK. Zero. Dammit!!! Nevermind.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
I only use the internet to spread dissonant lies about my government and to look at porn. ...
Conquest is not in our principles. It is inconsistent with our government." -- Thomas Jefferson
I swear, the first time I looked at your post, the attribution to Jefferson in your sig got mis-assigned to the whole post, leading to a very "wtf" moment...
The person who brought this story up is an idiot if they believe this is all about "porn." Yes, in the Tianamen Square incident a lot of people got screwed, but I would not call it "porn." Anyone want to take bets about how many sites concerning that particular obscenity will get blocked by these new initiatives? "Porn" my ass. It is about control. Plain and simple. Control to let the evil murdering bastards that run that country continue to do so. period.
Glad I live in Australia, where freedom of speech rules and the population wouldn't put up with this bullshit. Oh wait ...
China (and the rest of the world to a lesser extent) is slowly moving away from the "default accept" ideology of the free, open internet and towards a network where only approved devices can connect. Slashbots will rave and foam at the mouth about that "censorship is interpreted as damage" meme but it's sadly out of date. The Chinese can and will control what filth reaches their people. Sure, VPNs will be there...for a while at least...but the average Zhou won't bother with it.
It's hard for a lot of bicoastal Americans to understand - and even more difficult for transnational progressivist Europeans - but the Chinese people really do love their country. And their country has one government, which is the best government China has ever had. Ever since Deng Xiaoping ditched university Marxism and took the Communist Party on the capitalist road ("socialism is not poverty / to get rich is glorious") life has only gotten better in China. For all the bad press the Chinese government gets, they really are trying to do right, by their own standards. The problem arises when blinkered Westerners insist on judging China by "universal" standards. In fact, these "universal standards" have their roots in the Enlightenment...which China didn't have.
Aaah, kinda lost my point there. Anyhow, I'm no panda hugger but you simply have to put yourself in their shoes. A mere seventeen years ago socialism couldn't even provide clean drinking water and now China is the world's largest market for Rolls-Royce automobiles. This doesn't mean that the Communist Party of China will be relinquishing power anytime soon, though. They still maintain control over the economy via the allocation and issuance of business licenses and the denial of debilitating foreign influences, such as pornography.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
USA the ultimate prudes?!?! Whaaaaaaaat? Where the F did that one come from? The USA has one of the most liberal sexual attitudes this side of Amsterdam. Legal nude beaches, legal pornography on satellite TV, 100% unrestricted internet including all the dark parts (and internet porn can get really really dark), as well as unrestricted travel and emigration for those who find America a cesspool of good morals. Hell, all you have to do is go south of the border, you'll find no shortage of men who won't marry anyone but a proven virgin. Go to other continents and you'll find mothers who proudly display bloody sheets to the entire neighborhood after her son's wedding night, to applause and general approval from the audience.
It doesn't break down society as far as you can tell? Well, thanks for that blinding insight! Surely, sir, your opinion is universal and speaks for all mankind. Actually, pornography degrades the human spirit. If you don't think so, there are billions of humans who think exactly this way. Pornography takes a sacred act and makes it profane. China has already developed the infrastructure necessary to block damaging internet content - this is just one implementation. Sure, there will always be stag movies or black-market DVDs. However, free easy porn is something that China has decided is harmful. Who the fuck are you to judge China?
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
is that with China, there's no pandering talk about "freedom" and "civil liberties." Chinese citizens know exactly what's up, whereas your average American still thinks they have freedom.
You think this is a provocative claim? It's not. The way the state deals with internet regulation is a perfect illustration. In China, you are forcibly blocked, end of story. Simple, efficient. In the US, law enforcement doesn't stop you outright, but instead they track you only to prosecute your ass later. Massive amounts of data are collected on you, whether it is by companies or by the state. The only real "freedom" your average American citizen has is the freedom to incriminate themselves, which, under the capitalist system, means complete financial destruction.
Honestly, you are screwed in either country. It's just that the Chinese government is more open about how they're screwing you.
In six years, this will be the whole internet, everywhere. They'll probably just stick it into ACTA.
And you didn't even notice that it begins "For all intensive purposes..."
I used to read Caltizzle. I was a lot cooler than you.
Because none of that happens is the good, god-fearing, democratic west now does it.
The only difference is that western politicians ban such things for God or the Children, Eastern politicians simply offer no excuse.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
The Chinese government is just got tired to block every page against it on Internet. So it decided to simply close it!
One province had lost Internet Connection for more than 8 months and this is just the beginning.
Who the fuck at the Chinese to criticize Americans for how THEY do things?
Seriously, everyone judges everyone. It's part of being human. Now FUCK OFF and leave me to judge.
I'm fairly sure that if they took all the porn off the Internet, there'd only be 1 website left and it would be called "Bring Back The Porn"
internet porn can get really really dark
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Yeah, because the US is the bastion of freedom for homo-sexuals. Tell me again in wich nation the people voted to make homosexuals 2nd class citizens?
Sometimes you got to think a little bit clearer before you comment. And China is pretty open about homosexual rights because they are not christians and as such do not have the WESTERN view that it is a sin.
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The "for all intensive purposes" clearly refers to the main point
Whoosh.
collapse under its own weight. No matter how many IOU's it has from the USA, the Communist Party of China only remains in power as long as it has a booming economy. The present economic miracle in China is a very recent phenomena and mostly results from the simple arithmetic of raising living standards from nothing to something which always appears to be a large increase. When the economic bubble bursts (and it will) the various factions within the CP and the Red Army will carve their own piece of the Chinese pie to the exclusion of all other interests. By that time, the great firewall and this nonsense won't make any difference.
Then Ikea will invade.
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Sorry, the rule that foreign e-commerce web sites have to register with the Chinese authorities and hosting porn is illegal has been around for many years. It was part of the law when I lived there over 5 years ago, and the "porn" excuse was well known cover for cracking down on politically sensitive issues. Nothing that I can see is new or interesting in this report that was not just as true 5 years ago.
Moderators are letting a lot of crap slip through these days.
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Omgomgomg post again please. I must know if it's possible to fail harder than you already have.
Nah. That's what Silicon Valley is like. All that frustrated sexual energy goes into technical progress.