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Body Heat Energy Generation

BuzzSkyline writes "Researchers in Belgium have developed devices to harvest the waste heat our bodies throw off in order to convert it to electricity to run devices such as a wristband blood oxygen sensor and an electrocardiogram shirt. As a side benefit, the power sources help cool you down and keep you looking cool, all while running sundry micropower devices. In fact, the researchers mention that the energy harvesting head band works so well that it can get uncomfortably cold. In that case, they say, 'This problem is solved in exactly the same way as someone solves it on the body level in cold weather: a headgear should be worn on top of the system to limit the heat flow and make it comfortable.' But it would be such a shame to cover up the golden heat-harvesting headband with a hat."

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  1. Screw that by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You're wasting the real potential of this thing. I live in an area that gets hot as hell in the summer. If it really does get "uncomfortably cold," I'd pay good money for a whole suit made of the stuff.

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    1. Re:Screw that by yurtinus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Given tthat it's coming from a country where the diet consists of chocolate, beer, waffles (with chocolate on) and fries (with mayonnaise) I'd say they aren't exactly anorexic.

      Interested in losing weight without changing your diet? Boy have I got the product for you! The HeadFlex 3000 will burn calories while you go about your day, no exercise needed, and power your iPod, cell phone, or portable dialysis unit! Just strap it on, plug it in, and burn those calories!

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    2. Re:Screw that by Wardish · · Score: 3, Informative

      Sorry to say, since it's a heat engine, it moves heat from warmest to coolest. In hot weather YOU are the coolest. The device would warm you up.

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  2. Re:Cold? by oodaloop · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It feels cold because it's sucking heat out and using it. So it's constantly leaching heat out. Hence it would feel cold. Simple, really.

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  3. not usually how it works by v1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    As a side benefit, the power sources help cool you down

    Typically if you take something that's trying to dump waste heat, and install something that recovers power from that heat, it creates an insulating effect, reducing the cooling the object was receiving. Heat can't be turned directly into energy, only difference in heat. Adding a heat reclamation system doesn't help cool something down because the power it's getting is from the temperature difference, not the heat itself. Instead it takes power from the temperature gradient, and as such reduces the temperature gradient, thus reducing cooling efficiency.

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    1. Re:not usually how it works by JerryLove · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes. Power is generated when heat is moved from an area of high concentration (your head) to an area of low concentration (the air).

      If the device facilitates that transfer in order to get more energy from it; then it would indeed cool you down. It requires only tha the headband be more effective at radiating heat than your skin is.

  4. Re:Bullshit by jdunn14 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I was going to just mod you down, but the summary at least never said anything about lowering any part of the device below ambient. It said that the headband will "feel cold". Touch a piece of wood at room temperature. It will sometimes "feel" warm. Do the same thing with a piece of steel. It will "feel" cold. This is true even if both are at the exact same temperature. Heat conduction

    The kids section of my local science museum even has hand-shaped pieces of different materials to demonstrate the effect.

  5. Re:Cold? by Issarlk · · Score: 5, Informative

    The headband is at ambiant temperature, but your body is much warmer. Heat flow from your body to the headband and leaves a cold sensation on your skin. The material of the headband applied to the body is probably a good conductor of heat ; it's like with a piece of metal that feels cold to the touch and a piece of wood that doesn't while both are at room temperature.

  6. Re:A personal airconditioner? by dvoecks · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That only works if the air temp is lower than 98.6. This sort of thing works by harnessing the difference in energy between the "hot" side and the "cold" side. Sure, it would work well at room-temperature, but who needs cooling at room-temp? About the only time you really need cooling when the air is significantly below normal body temperature outside is when you've got a fever, or are heavily exerting yourself. I definitely could get behind a headband that powers an mp3 player when I'm on a jog. It could have military applications, but it would be fairly limited. When it's 120 degrees in Iraq, this thing wouldn't work even if the soldier was running a marathon while dragging a broken down Humvee.

  7. Canada by Galestar · · Score: 3, Funny

    I live in Canada... I need all of my body heat as it is.

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  8. Re:Free Energy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_(electricity)#Rechargeable_battery_chemistries

    I'd love to know where you get 5 kWh from an iPhone battery. Li-Ion batteries have an energy density of 128 Wh/kg, so your iPhone battery must weigh 39 kg.

    Granted, a 5 kWh Li-Ion battery will cost a fortune, so for something of that capacity, you're more likely to use a lead-acid battery of car/alarm/emergency light fame. That battery would weigh 129 kg. My brother-in-law has an iPhone; I'll ask him if it came with a dolly for the battery.

    Now, it would make more sense if that was a 5 Wh battery; then we're talking about 39 grams, which is probably a bit easier to carry around. And your charging cost is down to 0.005p, but will likely be a good deal higher due to energy loss.

  9. Re:Cold? by Hatta · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's not sucking heat out, that would actually require extra energy input. It's not a pump, it's more like a water wheel.

    But my question has been answered. It doesn't get below ambient temperature. We just don't feel ambient temperature as cold as it actually is, because air is a pretty good insulator.

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  10. Re:A personal airconditioner? by Thelasko · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Wouldn't it be extremely marketable? Especially for the military with troops in hot places and with bulky body armor and probably all types of personal electronic equipment to keep charged?

    This also defies the laws of thermodynamics. Allow me to explain:

    1. In Iraq, the surroundings are hotter than the human body. Therefore, it is impossible to harvest energy from human waste heat because heat is flowing to the human, not away from it.

    2. The temperature gradient between a humans body and it's surroundings is not large enough to generate significant amounts of electricity. If it was, internal combustion engines would be a hell of a lot more efficient than they are today.

    3. If the temperature gradient between a human body and it's surroundings were large enough to generate significant amounts of electricity, you might want that energy to keep warm!

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  11. Blue Smarties. . . by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 4, Informative

    Though perhaps they won't need massive amounts of force to subdue humanity; from what I've seen, most people would choose the blue pill.

    I've long believed that the physical reality we live in, being entirely a product of energy and thus little more than an illusion, the idea of matter and as such is inherently linked to consciousness. . , that all things in our reality can be observed as and understood to be metaphors for systems and conflicts we are experiencing in our conscious awareness.

    -You have to plug humans into the Matrix at the start of their lives when kids are most inquisitive. Red Smarties are the most popular color, and the battle over Blue Smarties rages on. . !

    In 2006 it was announced that Nestlé were removing all artificial colourings from Smarties in the UK, owing to consumer concerns over the effect of chemical dyes on children's health. Nestlé decided to replace all synthetic dyes with natural ones, but as they were unable to source a natural blue dye, the blue Smarties were removed from circulation, and white Smarties were introduced in their place. White Smarties were later removed from the range, and blue Smarties were re-introduced in the UK in February 2008, using a natural blue dye derived from the cyanobacteria spirulina.

    Dieticians [...] said that the blue coloring was the one which was most likely to cause intolerance in kids. "The thing about blue is there are no natural equivalents. All the others can be obtained from natural sources," said Linda Hodge, a dietitian. "I believe the Brilliant Blue causes the worst symptoms of chemical intolerances."

    She added that when consumers are being tested for intolerances, the first color tried out is yellow. "When we are trying to determine if a person is sensitive to food coloring, we test them first on yellow. If there is no reaction we then use red, then blue. We don't start off with blue because it is a the strongest color and gives the worst reactions," she observed.

    Humans naturally try to reject the Matrix. "Entire crops were lost."

    Neat, huh?

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    1. Re:Blue Smarties. . . by OglinTatas · · Score: 4, Funny

      Humans naturally try to reject the Matrix. "Entire crops were lost."

      I don't reject the Matrix so much as I reject The Matrix 2 and 3.

  12. Re:Truely Fremen fashion by camperdave · · Score: 4, Funny

    As for me, electricity costs are getting so high that a human sized hamster wheel attached to a basic generator coil looks really attractive right now.

    Of course, the problems involved in acquiring and caring for a human sized hamster tend to outweigh the benefits.

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